Selling my car - buying a bike - 1998 BMW 540i

[darkwolf]

Hi All,
- thrown in here as it doesn't fit in the "For Sale" section and it's not bike related. But if mods think it needs to be somewhere else, then so be it. (preferably not the round receptacle)

Selling my car:bye: Buying a bike:woohoo:

Problem is, no one's bought my car yet; so I can't buy my bike :facepalm:

Link to trademe: LINKY (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=413535339)

I know most people on here wouldn't be interested but I'm just trying to get the most audience I can. So if you know anyone who might be interested, I'd appreciate you passing on the details.

Few details:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-jkciyOh9SYE/TkrXmZTAtLI/AAAAAAAABTw/SkZe0c3CJVY/s640/11%252520-%2525201.jpg

Widely regarded as the finest executive saloon of the time.

Compare the features from factory:
210KW, 420nM 4.4L 32 valve quad cam V8.
5 speed auto
Factory Installed Transmission Cooler
Remote Mounted Oil Filter
S-EDC (electronic damper control)
ABS
Driver's and passengers front, side and curtain airbag (6 airbags).
4 star Euro NCAP safety rating.
Dynamic Stability Control
Setable Speed Limit Warning
Sunroof
Electric Steering Wheel adjustment
Electric Driver's and Passenger's seat adjustment.
3 Memory Seat settings (can be set to automatically adjust to the key used to open the car)
Rain sensing wipers
Automatic Dimming Rearview mirror (no more dazzling 4WD headlights)
Auto tilt passenger mirror (easy to see where the kerb is when reversing)
Front and Rear foglights
Electronic Rear Sunblind
Heated Leather Seats... mmmm
Steering Wheel Stereo & A/C controls
6 Disc CD Changer
8 Speakers
Full size spare wheel
Onboard tool kit
Programmable code immobiliser (won't start unless you enter the correct code - which you can choose when you lock the car)

Built December 1997 first registered in 1998.

Only travelled 125,000KM. Purchased at 79,500KM. Ex Japan I understand.

Had angel eye headlights, led tail lights and front lip when imported.

Since then I have:
Upgraded to 17" tyres, enough to help grip without losing comfort
New Water pump (metal prop) at 115,000KM
Auxilary and Main Belt done at the same time
Serviced with Shell Helix 5w-40 BMW LL.06 certified oil as required by onboard service notification.

Travelled from Christchurch to Hamilton on 11.2L/100KM. The car has averaged 14.2L/100KM since I bought the car in October 2008. This is fantastic fuel economy for a car with this ability.

I would love to say more but I have run out of room! Please call for more info.

Needs passenger side front and rear window lift mechanism ($150 each) and cruise control motor replaced ($150) and cupholders ($50) hence the low price. I haven't fixed them because I never used them.

Also - Car is in Morrinsville, Waikato. I live in Christchurch but parents thought they'd like it. Then they thought it was too big - after I'd driven from Christchurch to Morrinsville, swapped cars with their 95 Nissan Pulsar 1.5L Auto and painfully drove it back to Christchurch.

[mattian]

not interested in buying your car.... or any car for that matter. Just wanted to congratulate you. Now dont be a pussy and sell your bike for a car come winter time again.:scooter:

[darkwolf]

This from an Aucklander? With your epic half a mil of snow? We get real cold down here...:Pokey:


Doesn't mean I'll sell the bike for a car though.

[Indiana_Jones]

Put the reg on hold for the summer on the car and vice-versa for the bike?

In weather like that I can imagine a car is gonna be very handy!

-Indy

[darkwolf]

Unfortunately, I can't have my cake and eat it too. I will buy another car but it will be something boring, just because we need to be saving some pennies at the moment.

The 4.4L V8 saloon just doesn't make sense for me anymore. I was the only one ever in it, and was using it mainly to drive to work. When that drive was 100KM a day it made loads of sense, now that it's only 13KM it makes a lot less sense.

[sidecar bob]

Sorry to dissapoint you buddy, but that is a 4 litre, not a 4.4.
4 litre has the front tappett covor bolts 3 in a straight row, 4.4 has the inner two about 40 to 50mm ahead of the outer one to house the inlet cam vanos (varible timing unit). 210kw versus 235kw & heaps more torque on the vanos 4.4.
Honest mistake im sure, but stink if someone marches it back a week after buying it for mis representation, although you do say its a 210kw one.

[onearmedbandit]

Sorry to dissapoint you buddy, but that is a 4 litre, not a 4.4.
4 litre has the front tappett covor bolts 3 in a straight row, 4.4 has the inner two about 40 to 50mm ahead of the outer one to house the inlet cam vanos (varible timing unit). 210kw versus 235kw & heaps more torque on the vanos 4.4.
Honest mistake im sure, but stink if someone marches it back a week after buying it for mis representation, although you do say its a 210kw one.

All the 540's I've seen and sold of that year have been the 4.4l, and even a quick search on trademe reveals plenty more described as 4.4l's. I checked one of our 2001 X5's and the engine is as you describe it, maybe the earlier ones were of a different design.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/540/auction-411803611.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/540/auction-411082734.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/bmw/540i/auction-411936333.htm

[JimO]

Sorry to dissapoint you buddy, but that is a 4 litre, not a 4.4.
4 litre has the front tappett covor bolts 3 in a straight row, 4.4 has the inner two about 40 to 50mm ahead of the outer one to house the inlet cam vanos (varible timing unit). 210kw versus 235kw & heaps more torque on the vanos 4.4.
Honest mistake im sure, but stink if someone marches it back a week after buying it for mis representation, although you do say its a 210kw one.

blardy trainspotter

[EJK]

Nice car :yes:

[darkwolf]

Sorry to dissapoint you buddy, but that is a 4 litre, not a 4.4.
4 litre has the front tappett covor bolts 3 in a straight row, 4.4 has the inner two about 40 to 50mm ahead of the outer one to house the inlet cam vanos (varible timing unit). 210kw versus 235kw & heaps more torque on the vanos 4.4.
Honest mistake im sure, but stink if someone marches it back a week after buying it for mis representation, although you do say its a 210kw one.

Stick to your bikes mate and you should be fine.

The engine in this is the M62B44. The '44' has some importance. They are often misrecorded as being 4L or even 5.4L.

The engine you claim has HEAPS more torque is the M62TUB44 (TU stands for Technical Update) and produces only 20Nm more than the original M62B44, which is not much considering the size of the vehicle. However, after doing my RESEARCH BEFORE BUYING THE CAR, I determined I wasn't interested in the TU engine because the VANOS system is prone to failure every 60,000KM, therefore, the TU engine would be unlikely to be providing the extra torque quoted from factory.

The 4.0L engine you refer to is M60B40 (again note the 40) from the previous generation (E34) 540i.Alternatively, perhaps you have gotten yourself confused by looking at wikipedia and misread the N62B40 which is in the newer 5 series which produces 303HP or nearly 235KW (223KW actually, but seeing as you were out by 10% on the engine capacity, I figure being out by 5% on power should be regarded as an improvement).

On a separate note I would be very interested to see where you get the figure for 235KW if you are not referring to the other 2 above engines, as there is no horsepower increase between the Non-VANOS and VANOS engines except for where peak power occurs.

There is an old saying:
A wise man lets people think they are foolish, an idiot opens his mouth and proves it. I'll let you decide to which you belong.

[JimO]

Stick to your bikes mate and you should be fine.

The engine in this is the M62B44. The '44' has some importance. They are often misrecorded as being 4L or even 5.4L.

The engine you claim has HEAPS more torque is the M62TUB44 (TU stands for Technical Update) and produces only 20Nm more than the original M62B44, which is not much considering the size of the vehicle. However, after doing my RESEARCH BEFORE BUYING THE CAR, I determined I wasn't interested in the TU engine because the VANOS system is prone to failure every 60,000KM, therefore, the TU engine would be unlikely to be providing the extra torque quoted from factory.

The 4.0L engine you refer to is M60B40 (again note the 40) from the previous generation (E34) 540i.Alternatively, perhaps you have gotten yourself confused by looking at wikipedia and misread the N62B40 which is in the newer 5 series which produces 303HP or nearly 235KW (223KW actually, but seeing as you were out by 10% on the engine capacity, I figure being out by 5% on power should be regarded as an improvement).

On a separate note I would be very interested to see where you get the figure for 235KW if you are not referring to the other 2 above engines, as there is no horsepower increase between the Non-VANOS and VANOS engines except for where peak power occurs.

There is an old saying:
A wise man lets people think they are foolish, an idiot opens his mouth and proves it. I'll let you decide to which you belong.

im pretty sure old bob knows his beamers:yes:

[DrunkenMistake]

I was interested in the car,
But I dont really want all the snow..

[darkwolf]

im pretty sure old bob knows his beamers:yes:

Well, good. Probably knows even more now. :yes:


I was interested in the car,
But I dont really want all the snow..

This from a guy in Dunedin? :blink:


Nice car :yes:

Didn't expect this on a bike forum. Thanks though.

[JimO]

Well, good. Probably knows even more now. :yes:





this should be interesting

[DrunkenMistake]

This from a guy in Dunedin? :blink:


Youll do well on Kb haha.

Nice car though, I have always liked BMW's, Just never got off my ass to get a car license and then I got a bike, and well, Maybe one day when I have had enough of wanking over bikes, Ill start with Cars.:innocent:

[darkwolf]

Youll do well on Kb haha.

Nice car though, I have always liked BMW's, Just never got off my ass to get a car license and then I got a bike, and well, Maybe one day when I have had enough of wanking over bikes, Ill start with Cars.:innocent:

To quote a well known Telco... Now's Good

As it turns out I know of the perfect car for the change from bike to car...
FOLLOW MY LINK (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=413535339)

[DrunkenMistake]

Lmao,
Like I said, When I am done wanking over my bikes,
Ill start on Cars,
There is still plenty more love juice in this keg.

[Indiana_Jones]

To quote a well known Telco... Now's Good

As it turns out I know of the perfect car for the change from bike to car...
FOLLOW MY LINK (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=413535339)

"Widely regarded as the finest executive saloon of the time"

...that would be the Wolseley Six :yes:

-Indy

[onearmedbandit]

im pretty sure old bob knows his beamers:yes:

I'm pretty sure he's wrong on this account.

In fact here is a link to a pdf that clearly shows the M62 4.4 with 3 holes in the cylinder head for the rocker cover.

http://www.meeknet.co.uk/E38/M62%20Engine%20Details.pdf

[darkwolf]

Wolseley - what Turkey is still making those?

[EJK]

I thought E39 540i had only 4.4 V8s.

[sidecar bob]

Stick to your bikes mate and you should be fine.

The engine in this is the M62B44. The '44' has some importance. They are often misrecorded as being 4L or even 5.4L.

The engine you claim has HEAPS more torque is the M62TUB44 (TU stands for Technical Update) and produces only 20Nm more than the original M62B44, which is not much considering the size of the vehicle. However, after doing my RESEARCH BEFORE BUYING THE CAR, I determined I wasn't interested in the TU engine because the VANOS system is prone to failure every 60,000KM, therefore, the TU engine would be unlikely to be providing the extra torque quoted from factory.

The 4.0L engine you refer to is M60B40 (again note the 40) from the previous generation (E34) 540i.Alternatively, perhaps you have gotten yourself confused by looking at wikipedia and misread the N62B40 which is in the newer 5 series which produces 303HP or nearly 235KW (223KW actually, but seeing as you were out by 10% on the engine capacity, I figure being out by 5% on power should be regarded as an improvement).

On a separate note I would be very interested to see where you get the figure for 235KW if you are not referring to the other 2 above engines, as there is no horsepower increase between the Non-VANOS and VANOS engines except for where peak power occurs.

There is an old saying:
A wise man lets people think they are foolish, an idiot opens his mouth and proves it. I'll let you decide to which you belong.

Ohh look, random reference to E39 with 4.0 litre engine!!http://www.turnermotorsport.com/image/intake/afe/54-10471_instructions_97-03_BMW_540i.pdf
Ill shut up now & be thought a fool of, rather than shoot my mouth off & make a fool of myself, Ill leave that to others. I dont know much about beemers anyway.:facepalm:
You really are some kind of angry clown arent you?? Which category do you think you belong in now?
Youre full of facts & figures, but clearly you have never driven both versions back to back.

[sidecar bob]

I thought E39 540i had only 4.4 V8s.Seems not, but what the fuck would I know about the topic.

[huff3r]

im pretty sure old bob knows his beamers:yes:

Pretty sure MR Darkwolf here knows his own car, and indeed hangs out in all the right places to know plenty about BMWs himself ;).

Of couurse if you want to get all technical there is always the option of using the chassis number, or even the engine number to look up all the specs. I'd be incredibly surprised if it came back with 4.0l...:facepalm:

[JimO]

i still put my money on bob

[DMNTD]

Of couurse if you want to get all technical there is always the option of using the chassis number, or even the engine number to look up all the specs. I'd be incredibly surprised if it came back with 4.0l...:facepalm:

Easier still just look at the ownership papers :sunny:

[Virago]

...Of couurse if you want to get all technical there is always the option of using the chassis number, or even the engine number to look up all the specs. I'd be incredibly surprised if it came back with 4.0l...:facepalm:

The engine number is 448S-52421563. That says it all really...:yes:

[darkwolf]

Ohh look, random reference to E39 with 4.0 litre engine!!http://www.turnermotorsport.com/image/intake/afe/54-10471_instructions_97-03_BMW_540i.pdf
Ill shut up now & be thought a fool of, rather than shoot my mouth off & make a fool of myself, Ill leave that to others. I dont know much about beemers anyway.:facepalm:
You really are some kind of angry clown arent you?? Which category do you think you belong in now?
Youre full of facts & figures, but clearly you have never driven both versions back to back.

well then I concede, it's from the internet so it must be true! I would have thought the official documentation would have been correct, but some guy on the internet must be a more reliable source.

Though my comment was made somewhat tongue in cheek, there was certainly an element (maybe a major portion) of annoyance. This is due to the fact that you posted information about the car which was incorrect - whether due to a lack of research or being misinformed - which whether intentional or not, gave the impression that I didn't know my own car.

To then take the information I have given and still maintain that you were correct is just ignorant. If you do decide that you could do with some further information on the matter, let me know. I will happily forward you some information so that you can increase your already boundless knowledge of the subject.


Easier still just look at the ownership papers :sunny:
I take it this will be sufficient (https://www.carjam.co.nz/report/?ref=42090947)

[onearmedbandit]

ah not worth it...

[short-circuit]

Seems not, but what the fuck would I know about the topic.

http://i795.photobucket.com/albums/yy239/blkst3/Owned-Connect4.jpg

[Indiana_Jones]

But being a BMW car, everyone loses....:woohoo:

-Indy

[Crasherfromwayback]

I had a 735iL for years, loved it to bits and had a great run out of it!

[imdying]

So was it a 4 or 4.4?

[sil3nt]

So was it a 4 or 4.4?I will put my money on 4.4!

:jerry:

[onearmedbandit]

Same, sold a few of them now, drove an 840i coupe for a while, looked at plenty for sale, all had the same looking engine (3 bolts across the rocker cover) and all were 4.4l. However the 4.4l under the hood of our X5 looks the way that sidecar describes, leading me to believe there is the first gen 4.4 and (obviously) a second gen 4.4.

[imdying]

Well I'm dying to know after the fuss sideshowbob made... :scooter:

[Indiana_Jones]

Who would of thought 400cc difference would cause such a fuss!

You know my B series is the 1800, not the 1500!

-Indy

[avgas]

Last I heard was that the 4L bmw motor was never sold here.......

Much like the 1998 BMW 735i I have been told.

FYI the 4.4L also came in a 210kw variant (in the 90's)......this is actually the most common version.

I miss the 850i though. Still the best production BMW ever made......just needed tweaks

[avgas]

Who would of thought 400cc difference would cause such a fuss!

You know my B series is the 1800, not the 1500!

-Indy
Is there a power difference. Or do you simply shovel more coal into it to make up the speed?
http://img.scoop.co.nz/stories/images/0906/steam.train.ja1271.jpeg

[onearmedbandit]

Well I'm dying to know after the fuss sideshowbob made... :scooter:

Ba-doom tsssshhh.

[Indiana_Jones]

Is there a power difference. Or do you simply shovel more coal into it to make up the speed?


Goes like a steam train up the hills! :lol:

Mean on the corners though, very little body roll :)

-Indy

[Virago]

...Mean on the corners though, very little body roll :)...

Hydrospastic gone down again, huh...? :lol:

[Indiana_Jones]

Hydrospastic gone down again, huh...? :lol:

Funny you mention that, took her to my mechanic fora check/top up. Didn't need anything done so I'm happy :)

It's like driving on a cloud.....a slow, leaky, cloud lol

-Indy

[avgas]

Mean on the corners though, very little body roll :)
I can imagine

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/1924_blue_Buffalo_Springfield_steam_roller_left_si de.JPG

[Indiana_Jones]

<IMG SRC="http://www.gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/car_crash_bmw_x5m_flips_upside_down_01.jpg">

-Indy

[ducatilover]

So it has the correct engine number to be an M62B44?

I myself have never seen a M60B40 engined E39, but, it is possible.


Very tasty car you have there mate :yes:

[Daffyd]

Goes like a steam train up the hills! :lol:

Mean on the corners though, very little body roll :)

-Indy

And corners like it was on rails....Oh, wait!

[darkwolf]

I'm loving the free bumps :woohoo:

Getting a lot of interest too. Don't know if any of them are from KB though. Might start asking

[JimO]

if i was looking for a cheap hack i would probably buy it but currently have 6 cars so cant really justify another

[Indiana_Jones]

BMW

They be Nazis....

-Indy

[darkwolf]

if i was looking for a cheap hack i would probably buy it but currently have 6 cars so cant really justify another

Buy it, sell the others and enjoy driving something awesome!

[Indiana_Jones]

Buy it, sell the others and enjoy driving something awesome!

So you're telling him to buy a Vanden Plas 1300?

-Indy

[darkwolf]

You've just confirmed what I always thought. Triumph owners aren't running on all cylinders...

I've always suspected the Speed Triple is actually a four cylinder :Pokey:

[Indiana_Jones]

You've just confirmed what I always thought. Triumph owners aren't running on all cylinders...

I've always suspected the Speed Triple is actually a four cylinder :Pokey:

Does that mean my Bonnie has 3? :blink:

-Indy

[darkwolf]

Nah, probably just an 8-stroke...
Intake, Compression, Misfire, Exhaust, Intake, Compression, Ignition, Exhaust...

:killingme

[Indiana_Jones]

sold your Jew hatin' wagon yet?

-Indy

[avgas]

BMW

They be Nazis....

-Indy
Typical Pom.
Fail History and Geography in the same paragraph.

[avgas]

So you're telling him to buy a Vanden Plas 1300?

-Indy
Not even a hedge-fund manager would recommend that.

[Indiana_Jones]

Typical Pom.
Fail History and Geography in the same paragraph.

And don't forget mitzi's! they made the Zeros!

Porsche made some of the turrets for the Konig Tigers IIRC

-Indy

[Indiana_Jones]

Not even a hedge-fund manager would recommend that.

You need funds for a hedge?

Have no idea what that actually means aye!

-Indy

[Indiana_Jones]

FYI Avgas, I'm just playing silly buggers lol.

But not about the Pommie cars, they're all good!

-Indy

[Edbear]

if i was looking for a cheap hack i would probably buy it but currently have 6 cars so cant really justify another

There are actually seven days in a week.... :innocent:

[avgas]

But not about the Pommie cars, they're all good!
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3KSyWJcAe-k/TfjXrLOL6sI/AAAAAAAAApA/lXIXc23S6tA/s640/funny_pictures_lol_squid_LOL-s399x400-48058-580.jpg

[JimO]

There are actually seven days in a week.... :innocent:

yea but i have 2 motorbikes as well

[onearmedbandit]

My bad. I checked under the bonnet of our 4.4l X5 today, it has the same engine as pictured in the 540 in question. Checked the de-reg and the auction sheet, and well sideshow if you are so sure of yourself still you better get in touch with both BMW and the NZTA and inform them of their error...

[short-circuit]

well sideshow if you are so sure of yourself still you better get in touch with both BMW and the NZTA and inform them of their error...

Hahaha yeah. And JimO, you can take your tongue out of arse whenever you want

[JimO]

Hahaha yeah. And JimO, you can take your tongue out of arse whenever you want

whats that supposed to mean??

[short-circuit]

whats that supposed to mean??

Sorry - edit

Hahaha yeah. And JimO, you can take your tongue out of sideshow's arse whenever you want

[darkwolf]

Car sold! New bike soon!