New infringement notices?

[Owl]

So how long have these new "supermarket receipt" style infringement notices been around?

After getting pinged today for $120/20 demerits, I checked the back of the ticket looking for my 4c fuel voucher. Nothing........not a sausage?:shit:

Needless to say, I'm feeling a little ripped right now.:baby:

[blackdog]

Got one in July. Geriatric revenue collector took 30 minutes working out how to use it while I stood there getting hypothermia.

[Hopeful Bastard]

Cant say i have seen them.. Yet <_<

[Mad-V2]

One of our workers got one a few months back and was given compliance,
When I took it to the police station to get it checked off they didn't know what they were looking at.
They had to find someone who knew what it was, and after half an hour I was finally out of there.

[MIXONE]

I got one up in the Ykato a few months back.Expected Mr. Plod to pull out an eftpos machine.:blink:

[scumdog]

Seen them but never used them, no need to.

Technology trickles down here slowly....

[Owl]

Got one in July. Geriatric revenue collector took 30 minutes working out how to use it while I stood there getting hypothermia.

That sucks!

Last notice I got, the nice lady cop sent me on my way and said she'd post it out, so as not to hold me up.

[red mermaid]

They started using them in Southland 1st.



Seen them but never used them, no need to.

Technology trickles down here slowly....

[rastuscat]

Seen them but never used them, no need to.

Technology trickles down here slowly....

You're in no mans land Scummie. The Southern HP guys got them months ago, we got ours yesterday. No big deal really. They speed up the processing, but they take time to get used to.

I like them best coz I can actually read the writing on them, as opposed to the latin scrawlings of a couple of my staff.

Ka kite

[scumdog]

They started using them in Southland 1st.


Not the General Dogs Body types yet...:no:

[blackdog]

That sucks!

Last notice I got, the nice lady cop sent me on my way and said she'd post it out, so as not to hold me up.

Doesn't suck as much as being told at the roadside I was getting a ticket for doing 113kph (which I was, no argument from me and I take me medicine), and then getting home and reading the ticket to see it said 131kph. Fucking dyslexic as well as geriatric.

Read them roadside people!

[Renegade]

Not the General Dogs Body types yet...:no:

haha you should know that those GDB boys cant be trusted with anything

[FJRider]

So how long have these new "supermarket receipt" style infringement notices been around?

After getting pinged today for $120/20 demerits, I checked the back of the ticket looking for my 4c fuel voucher. Nothing........not a sausage?:shit:

Needless to say, I'm feeling a little ripped right now.:baby:

Only after you spend more than $280 ... do you get the 4c off fuel ... :facepalm:

[Mad-V2]

Do these new machines use a cell phone connection for anything?
Or are they just a fancy calculator?
I got a Taxi once with mobile eftpos and when we got to the address there was no coverage, I had no cash and the driver couldn't be bothered driving up the hill so I could pay him.
FREE RIDE!

[Hopeful Bastard]

Anyone able to post a pic of said new tickets?

[Mad-V2]

just look at your last fuel docket, they look like that.

[jamiey]

Do these new machines use a cell phone connection for anything?
Or are they just a fancy calculator?
I got a Taxi once with mobile eftpos and when we got to the address there was no coverage, I had no cash and the driver couldn't be bothered driving up the hill so I could pay him.
FREE RIDE!

They must have. I was stopped the other day coming out of Dairy Flat BP on the northern motorway. Cop had a fancy hand held device that instantly brought up my licence details, bike ownership, demerits, previous addresses etc etc. No ticket printed for me tho it was just a general check. Technology is moving pretty fast, i know in the UK that the police cars have cameras that automatically check your number plate and can instantly see if you have no insurance, licence suspension, no tax, wof etc etc. Coming to NZ maybe??

[nosebleed]

Anyone able to post a pic of said new tickets?

You could go and get one of your own... It's not that hard :shifty:

(just saying)

[cs363]

They must have. I was stopped the other day coming out of Dairy Flat BP on the northern motorway. Cop had a fancy hand held device that instantly brought up my licence details, bike ownership, demerits, previous addresses etc etc. No ticket printed for me tho it was just a general check. Technology is moving pretty fast, i know in the UK that the police cars have cameras that automatically check your number plate and can instantly see if you have no insurance, licence suspension, no tax, wof etc etc. Coming to NZ maybe??

Number plate recognition cameras are in (albeit limited) use here already.

[Madness]

Anyone able to post a pic of said new tickets?

Here's one I may have allegedly prepared earlier.

248580

The bottom section of the "voucher" is a remittance slip for paying your money over to the bank. It is perforated for easy tear-off. Gosh, we're so lucky that our convenience is taken into such consideration like that.

This'll have to wait for now. I've got ACC levies to pay this month :facepalm:

[Owl]

I've got ACC levies to pay this month :facepalm:

Let's not forget the GST on your levies!:blink:

[Berg]

Not the General Dogs Body types yet...:no:

We get ours in December apparently. Have a 5 day training week to work out all the ins and outs. Ours come with more stuff than the basic Highway Patrol package. Bring them on I say as my writing is now a bit slow after last years crash.

[rastuscat]

Da new machines are da dogz bollix.

In terms of improvement, it means you'll be able to read your copy, instead of having to decipher it. Less mistakes will be made, though even this machine can't eliminate all mistakes. I put a wrong code in yesterday, and printed a seatbelt ticket for someone who had used a cellphone while driving. As it happens, easily fixed, so it was.

The big advantage for the dept is that as soon as the Popo has written his notes on the device, it is zapped via the ether to the Infringement Bureau. It's via the Telecom network.

At all times when coverage is available, the Popo can scan the barcode on your licence or vehicle registration label, and will be emailed details of the vehicle licence holder etc. Used to be done over a radio link, and for most part still is. Only the users of the SMART devices use them, around 680 or so are out there.

If the network isn't available, tickets can still be written, but no information transfer takes place. Until the device next connects to a network.

One day cops will attend domestics, burglaries etc and use an iPad or similar to document it. The report will be on the database as soon as he/she clicks AFFIRM. Paperless office? No, of course not, but far less so than now.

Funnily enough, the same old trend has continued. People who wear their seatbelts still don't get seatbelt tickets, cellphone tickets only go to people using cellphones while driving. Speeding tickets only seem to be issued to those exceeding a speed limit. Spooky. I'm wondering if there is a pattern. The only thing that has changed is how the tickets are written.

Donuts.

[Scuba_Steve]

Funnily enough, the same old trend has continued. People who wear their seatbelts still don't get seatbelt tickets, cellphone tickets only go to people using cellphones while driving. Speeding tickets only seem to be issued to those exceeding a speed limit. Spooky. I'm wondering if there is a pattern. The only thing that has changed is how the tickets are written.

Donuts.

and still no-one actually doing something dangerous, unsafe or inconsiderate gets charged.

Vodka.

[Madness]

I've had two pretty sizeable speeding tickets in years gone by that for some reason never made it through "the system" from the officers ticket book. Wether due to illegible handwriting or administrative cock-ups, I appreciated the result in both instances. I suppose the upside with all this new technology is that it's self funding.

Cannabis.

[FJRider]

Funnily enough, the same old trend has continued. People who wear their seatbelts still don't get seatbelt tickets, cellphone tickets only go to people using cellphones while driving. Speeding tickets only seem to be issued to those exceeding a speed limit. Spooky. I'm wondering if there is a pattern. The only thing that has changed is how the tickets are written.

Donuts.

I personally don't believe it's a "trend" ... even (alleged/claimed) intelligent people make dumb decisions ... for the sake of their own convenience ... or thrill ... :innocent:

The lucky ... maybe ... stay lucky ... maybe .... :shutup:

Maybe NOT ... :facepalm:

If it's a trend or a pattern ... one may know for certain ... and/or ... predict the outcome ... :yes: (although the outcome IS pretty much often ... predictable)

Sadly ... we cannot ... :facepalm:

[rastuscat]

and still no-one actually doing something dangerous, unsafe or inconsiderate gets charged.

Vodka.

Oh for heavens sake.

Dangerous, unsafe and inconsiderate charges are dealt with in court, not via the infringement system, which the new SMART devices deal with. Lucky really, as my device would overheat if there was an instant fine for driving like a dick.

Vodka, donuts and NOT cannabis.

Sheesh.

Skoober, email me a copy of the bar code on your drivers licence. I'll scan it and save it in my favourites list. Tee hee.

[Madness]

Oh for heavens sake........

....................

Sheesh.
.................

Sounds like you need to chill out, dude :doobey:

[blackdog]

Fold your ticket into a chess piece and it will stab the officer with a rainbow.

Acid.

[Scuba_Steve]

Oh for heavens sake.

Dangerous, unsafe and inconsiderate charges are dealt with in court, not via the infringement system, which the new SMART devices deal with. Lucky really, as my device would overheat if there was an instant fine for driving like a dick.

Vodka, donuts and NOT cannabis.

Sheesh.

Skoober, email me a copy of the bar code on your drivers licence. I'll scan it and save it in my favourites list. Tee hee.

Must be why the NI PIGs never charge the "failing to keep left" "impeding the flow of traffic" & "failing to indicate/give way" etc, too much effort ay.

Vodka & Donuts... Sounds like a party to me :woohoo:

I'm sure one-day you might get to see the licence in person :D

[scumdog]

and still no-one actually doing something dangerous, unsafe or inconsiderate gets charged.

Vodka.

Wowsers, all those people I believed I'd charged with the above offences - weren't?:blink::weird:

Bourbon and tonic. (cos I ran out of coke)

[Padmei]

I really like you police officers & thank you for your compassionate & measured approach to traffic management & safety. Please pass on my appreciation to all your colleagues.

In fact if they wanted to they could befriend me on facebook & let me know where they are when I'm going riding so i can call past & just say 'Hi good to see ya'.:love:

[rastuscat]

I really like you police officers & thank you for your compassionate & measured approach to traffic management & safety. Please pass on my appreciation to all your colleagues.

In fact if they wanted to they could befriend me on facebook & let me know where they are when I'm going riding so i can call past & just say 'Hi good to see ya'.:love:

?????????????? Feeling the lerve..............

[scumdog]

I really like you police officers & thank you for your compassionate & measured approach to traffic management & safety. Please pass on my appreciation to all your colleagues.

In fact if they wanted to they could befriend me on facebook & let me know where they are when I'm going riding so i can call past & just say 'Hi good to see ya'.:love:

Are you pissed???:blink:

[rastuscat]

Are you pissed???:blink:

Is that what you said the last time you looked in the mirror?

[Padmei]

Are you pissed???:blink:

Not yet- still got a 6 pack on the tank I've gotta go thru - Damn these full face helmets

[Padmei]

Can you check demerit points online? Would they post something out if you were getting close?

[FJRider]

I really like you police officers & thank you for your compassionate & measured approach to traffic management & safety. Please pass on my appreciation to all your colleagues.

In fact if they wanted to they could befriend me on facebook & let me know where they are when I'm going riding so i can call past & just say 'Hi good to see ya'.:love:

I just sit on 110 km/hr ... and let them find me ... :facepalm:

[scumdog]

Is that what you said the last time you looked in the mirror?

Luckily we don't have mirrors here....:D

[Gremlin]

Can you check demerit points online? Would they post something out if you were getting close?
NZTA sends out a warning notice when you go over 50dm, complete with a history list.

[red mermaid]

How many people were charged with these offences in the last 5 years?


and still no-one actually doing something dangerous, unsafe or inconsiderate gets charged.

Vodka.

[Scuba_Steve]

How many people were charged with these offences in the last 5 years?

don't know feel free to tell me, but I'm sure impeding the flow of traffic, failing to keep left & failing to indicate pales in comparison with "speed", failing to wear seatbelt & cellphone charges.

Hell even when old people drive the wrong way up the motorway they don't get charged :facepalm:
guess since he wasn't speeding he wasn't a "danger" ay :shutup:

[red mermaid]

So what you really meant when you said no one was charged with these offences is that you were just making it up as you go along?

What a surprise, another KB rant exposed as crap.



don't know feel free to tell me, but I'm sure impeding the flow of traffic, failing to keep left & failing to indicate pales in comparison with "speed", failing to wear seatbelt & cellphone charges.

Hell even when old people drive the wrong way up the motorway they don't get charged :facepalm:
guess since he wasn't speeding he wasn't a "danger" ay :shutup:

[blackdog]

I really like you police officers & thank you for your compassionate & measured approach to traffic management & safety. Please pass on my appreciation to all your colleagues.

In fact if they wanted to they could befriend me on facebook & let me know where they are when I'm going riding so i can call past & just say 'Hi good to see ya'.:love:...

Ecstacy.

[davereid]

Can you check demerit points online? Would they post something out if you were getting close?

Demerits are largely irrelevant as the disqualification needs to be served on you before its valid.

Even if you have 1000 demerits, if you are not served, you drive legally.

And if not served, they go away after two years.

Way better than fines which just get bigger, and fuck up the aussie holiday.

[Mad-V2]

Demerits are largely irrelevant as the disqualification needs to be served on you before its valid.

Even if you have 1000 demerits, if you are not served, you drive legally.

And if not served, they go away after two years.

Way better than fines which just get bigger, and fuck up the aussie holiday.

I'm pretty sure you'll find that your demerits now keep adding up and never get wiped unless you serve your 3 months disqualified period, and even then any left over stay on your record.
So if you have a thousand....your fucked!
I'm more fearful of demerits as they can cause me to loose my licence/job.
Fines?......Stick it on the tab.

[davereid]

I'm pretty sure you'll find that your demerits now keep adding up and never get wiped unless you serve your 3 months disqualified period, and even then any left over stay on your record.
So if you have a thousand....your fucked!
I'm more fearful of demerits as they can cause me to loose my licence/job.
Fines?......Stick it on the tab.

You drive legally till served. If never served, they go away. Ring them and ask. I wont hang my hat on the two years, maybe its more than that.

On the other hand, they can serve you on the side of the road, and that can be bloody inconvenient. And if you have any credit, the police and NZTA may not know your real address, but Veda do, and they will help out.

Best you dont speed, or follow the police, who always plead not guilty, regardless of the crime. Maybe you win the odd one.

[scumdog]

Demerits are largely irrelevant as the disqualification needs to be served on you before its valid.

Even if you have 1000 demerits, if you are not served, you drive legally.



Of course you might end up being 'served' at the side of the road when the cop discovers you are "Wanted for Service of Suspension Notice"...:doh:

[Mad-V2]

If never served, they go away.

ring them and ask.

Sorry.....



A licence suspension for accumulating 100 demerit points to only reduce the total demerit points by 100, and not remove all active demerit points on the licence. These will remain active for up to two years.

[Mad-V2]

Of course you might end up being 'served' at the side of the road when the cop discovers you are "Wanted for Service of Suspension Notice"...:doh:

Whats the go there? You'd get red flagged straight away i would assume?

[scumdog]

Whats the go there? You'd get red flagged straight away i would assume?

Yup - if your nice the cop will probably follow you home before serving the notice.

If you're like some of the key-board tough-guys on here you would probably talk the cop into serving the notice on the spot.

With a bit of luck it wil be in the middle of nowhere on a wet night to give you time to contemplate a nicer approach to people..that is if these key-board tough-guys are a tough as they make themselves to be...:shifty:.

[Owl]

I'm pretty sure you'll find that your demerits now keep adding up and never get wiped unless you serve your 3 months disqualified period, and even then any left over stay on your record.

I'm sure I read that urban legend somewhere too. Demerits still drop off after 2 years. I had 35 drop off last October and another 35 in April this year and I now have 40.:facepalm:

[davereid]

I think you have just CONFIRMED what I said.....

[Owl]

I think you have just CONFIRMED what I said.....

Yep, pretty much!:laugh:

[rastuscat]

Worry not citizens.

If your points reach 100, a little red flag lights up on the NZTA computer. 3 months of not driving.

Then if your points drop off, the red flag still exists. You'll have to serve the 3 months at some stage.

Bad luck. :Punk:

Don't do the crime, and you won't have to do the time. It's called deterrence. Talk it up, it increases the paranoia, and increases the deterrence.

:wings:

[FJRider]

I'm sure I read that urban legend somewhere too. Demerits still drop off after 2 years. I had 35 drop off last October and another 35 in April this year and I now have 40.:facepalm:

Two years from the date of the LAST demerits awarded ...

In other words ... two years demerit free ...

[Owl]

Two years from the date of the LAST demerits awarded ...

In other words ... two years demerit free ...

Wrong!

I accumulated 20 in February which took me to 55 (cop told me, but I knew anyway). I phoned in April to check my 35 had been wiped. They had and I was told I had 20.

I recall that hoax starting here on KB:rolleyes:

[FJRider]

Wrong!

I accumulated 20 in February which took me to 55 (cop told me, but I knew anyway). I phoned in April to check my 35 had been wiped. They had and I was told I had 20.

I recall that hoax starting here on KB:rolleyes:

Dont care anyway ... I got none ...

[FJRider]

Wrong!

I accumulated 20 in February which took me to 55 (cop told me, but I knew anyway). I phoned in April to check my 35 had been wiped. They had and I was told I had 20.

I recall that hoax starting here on KB:rolleyes:

Read it for yourself ...

http://www.howtolaw.co.nz/html/ml114.asp

[FJRider]

Check out THIS thread ...

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/377-Expiration-of-Demerit-Points?highlight=Expiration+Demerit+Points

[Owl]

Read it for yourself ...

http://www.howtolaw.co.nz/html/ml114.asp

I remember reading that when it was posted up earlier in the year.

Perhaps it's a misprint, or maybe my letter and the authorities I've spoken to are lying?

[FJRider]

I remember reading that when it was posted up earlier in the year.

Perhaps it's a misprint, or maybe my letter and the authorities I've spoken to are lying?

porkers telling porkies ... who would have guessed ... :killingme

[Owl]

porkers telling porkies ... who would have guessed ... :killingme

:laugh:Could be too?

When I spoke to the guy on the phone in April, he gave me the exact date my 35 demerits were wiped. He told me then that they are wiped individually, 2 years from the date of the offence.

[scumdog]

I remember reading that when it was posted up earlier in the year.

Perhaps it's a misprint, or maybe my letter and the authorities I've spoken to are lying?

I noticed the date 2003 at the bottom of that document:shifty:

[FJRider]

I noticed the date 2003 at the bottom of that document:shifty:

Note the date on THIS one ...

http://www.transport.govt.nz/legislation/acts/LandTransportAmendmentAct2011/

Interesting reading down the bottom ... :innocent:

I like the bit about only 100 points removed on completion of the three months suspension ... with the "others" still active for two years ...

Click on question and answers at the bottom ...

or HERE ...

http://www.transport.govt.nz/legislation/acts/Pages/LandTransportAmendmentAct2011FAQs.aspx

[davereid]

Yeah so they are automatically cleared after two years as we thought.

If never served a suspension, you may drive legally, until either served, or the points fall off the system.

Way cooler than fines.

[Parlane]

NZTA sends out a warning notice when you go over 50dm, complete with a history list.

I never recieved a notice of this kind :\ And if what the above person says about if you have over 60 then they take a full two years of good behaviour, then I am sitting on 90 :(

[Gremlin]

No, each set of points has a lifetime of 2 years, regardless of whatever else you do (unless you collect the full set, lose license for 3 months - then they're wiped).

You can always ring NZTA Driver Licensing on 0800 822 422 to find out your current... balance. :mellow:

[Mad-V2]

Each set of points have an expiry of two years from the time they are served unless you reach 100 points within the two year period of the first offence.
Then they just stay at whatever total you have over 100 until you serve your disqualification period.
After you've done your time you have to reapply for your licence, you don't have to resit or anything, just the usual eye test and new photo.
Then you pay $66 for your new licence and your good to go
I love it how they make you pay $66 to get a new licence on top of your fines and being disqualified, FUCKING WANKERS!!!!

[scumdog]

I love it how they make you pay $66 to get a new licence on top of your fines and being disqualified, FUCKING WANKERS!!!!


A good reason not to get disqualified eh!<_<

[davereid]

Each set of points have an expiry of two years from the time they are served unless you reach 100 points within the two year period of the first offence.
Then they just stay at whatever total you have over 100 until you serve your disqualification period.
After you've done your time you have to reapply for your licence, you don't have to resit or anything, just the usual eye test and new photo.
Then you pay $66 for your new licence and your good to go
I love it how they make you pay $66 to get a new licence on top of your fines and being disqualified, FUCKING WANKERS!!!!

No not quite right, but bloody close.

If a cop pulls me over, and on ONE infringement notice issues me 5 fines, each of 25 demerits, then only 25 demerits is entered against me. And that 25 demerits has a lifespan of 2 years from the date of the offence.

If 5 cops pull me over, and issue me 5 tickets each of 25 demerits, my total is now 125 demerits.

The demerits are not recorded against me until conviction, usually the day I pay the fine.

But the effective date of the demerit is the date I was ticketed. If I have managed this within TWO years I am now liable to be served with a three month disqualification.

However, they don't stay at 100. The old points "drop off" as they age.

My disqualification still remains in the system, but once I have had two years without getting any more points OR being served then I am in the clear, and cannot be served.

Furthermore, I can drive entirely legally UNTIL served. So my vehicle cant be impounded etc, as long as I don't drive if I am served.

[Mad-V2]

After ringing and asking about the new law change from I think May this year,
I was told that if you reach 100 (lets say you have 120) points recorded against you inside two years, they will never go away unless you serve a 3 month disqualification.
After you've done your time, you are left with 20 demerits which will drop off your licence after 2 years of the initial date of the offence unless you clock up another 80 in that time, then they are locked in place until you loose it again.
It used to be that even if you had 300 points, you'd get them all cleared after your 3 months disqualified period and start from zero. Now you only use up 100 at a time.

And yes it would be better to just not speed at all, that is obvious Scumdog :shutup:
But some people have problems keeping under the limit, whether it be speed, booze or stating the obvious (aye scumdog) :shutup:

But this info should be shared with everyone so there are no nasty surprises.

[Madness]

I was told that if you reach 100 (lets say you have 120) points recorded against you inside two years, they will never go away unless you serve a 3 month disqualification. :shutup:

That kind if fits with how I understand it. I prefer to think of it more along these lines;

The points are valid for 2 years from the date of offence and can be recorded retrospectively, no matter how long you manage to delay process. As soon as you hit 100 live points a notice to suspend your licence is issued - Call it a Bus Pass(tm). These don't go away and stay in the system until you're served whilst the points continue to become inactive as the 2-yearly wheel turns.

[Madness]

No not quite right, but bloody close.

If a cop pulls me over, and on ONE infringement notice issues me 5 fines, each of 25 demerits, then only 25 demerits is entered against me. And that 25 demerits has a lifespan of 2 years from the date of the offence.

If 5 cops pull me over, and issue me 5 tickets each of 25 demerits, my total is now 125 demerits.

The demerits are not recorded against me until conviction, usually the day I pay the fine.

But the effective date of the demerit is the date I was ticketed. If I have managed this within TWO years I am now liable to be served with a three month disqualification.

However, they don't stay at 100. The old points "drop off" as they age.

My disqualification still remains in the system, but once I have had two years without getting any more points OR being served then I am in the clear, and cannot be served.

Furthermore, I can drive entirely legally UNTIL served. So my vehicle cant be impounded etc, as long as I don't drive if I am served.

I agree 99%. Payment of the fine isn't the only trigger for the recording of Demerits. Simply lodging a notice of fine with the District Court for collection following non-payment to Police is sufficuent for this to happen also.

I think. :shifty:

[davereid]

After ringing and asking about the new law change from I think May this year,
I was told that if you reach 100 (lets say you have 120) points recorded against you inside two years, they will never go away unless you serve a 3 month disqualification.

You don't ever need to actually go licence-less.

If never served, and you don't get any more demerits they fade away....two years clear... spray and walk away...

[FJRider]

Each set of points have an expiry of two years from the time they are served unless you reach 100 points within the two year period of the first offence.
Then they just stay at whatever total you have over 100 until you serve your disqualification period.


The good bit is ... with the new laws ... those demerits you have OVER the 100 you "need" to lose your licence with ... you STILL have when you get your licence back ... They are not ALL wiped ...

http://www.transport.govt.nz/legislation/acts/Pages/LandTransportAmendmentAct2011FAQs.aspx

[Madness]

http://www.transport.govt.nz/legislation/acts/Pages/LandTransportAmendmentAct2011FAQs.aspx


Why is there a need to allow more than one period of licence suspension to be imposed and to be served consecutively?

Bugger me! :blink: You could get disqualified for eons if you rack up enough points!

[FJRider]

Lose it for more than 12 months ... and it's a resit ... from scratch ... L plate/restricted ... the full deal ... :killingme

[Mad-V2]

Yep, and then once you've done your time, you have to front up with more cash to get your licence back. Even after only 3 months loss of licence.
Do the crime, pay the price........twice!

[Padmei]

What am i missing here?
How does one not get served- by moving around & living under a bridge? handing over your twin brother/sisters licence every time you get pulled over?
Obviously not speeding:shifty:

Also to clarify - If I have 120 points & don't get served, then after 2 years from the latest infringement ALL my points would be wiped or would the 100 points still be sitting there waiting for me to hand over my licence for 3 months...

Not planning on a career as Ghostrider II but my interest is piqued

[Madness]

Also to clarify - If I have 120 points & don't get served, then after 2 years from the latest infringement ALL my points would be wiped or would the 100 points still be sitting there waiting for me to hand over my licence for 3 months...

I believe the points have since expired but the notice to suspend your licence is still active, similar to a Warrant to Sieze or Arrest.

[FJRider]

Also to clarify - If I have 120 points & don't get served, then after 2 years from the latest infringement ALL my points would be wiped or would the 100 points still be sitting there waiting for me to hand over my licence for 3 months...

Not planning on a career as Ghostrider II but my interest is piqued

ONLY 100 points are wiped AFTER your 3 month disqualification ... the rest (any more you may have) you now KEEP ... untill your next 3 month loss ...

They will find you ... eventually .... :lol: something to look forward to ... Mail ...

[Padmei]

:shit:

Shit there's someone at the door...

[Mad-V2]

You just do what I did when I was young and dumb.
Don't answer the door, eventually they give up coming to your house.
Don't get caught breaking the law, then you can hand it in when YOUR ready.

back in the day I avoided it for three years, and in that time racked up 380 points.
when I finally decided to get my shit together i done the three months DQ and all my points were wiped :Punk:
Let the flaming begin :whocares:

[Parlane]

You just do what I did when I was young and dumb.
Don't answer the door, eventually they give up coming to your house.
Don't get caught breaking the law, then you can hand it in when YOUR ready.

back in the day I avoided it for three years, and in that time racked up 380 points.
when I finally decided to get my shit together i done the three months DQ and all my points were wiped :Punk:
Let the flaming begin :whocares:

380?

Challenge accepted.

[FJRider]

:laugh:Could be too?

When I spoke to the guy on the phone in April, he gave me the exact date my 35 demerits were wiped. He told me then that they are wiped individually, 2 years from the date of the offence.

Read the Act concerned ... Thats for a SINGLE offence ... Only

2 or more offences ... and it's the date from the commision of the most recent offence ...

Scroll down to section 91 (1)

And it lists ANY amendments to the Act at the bottom of the sections (section 88/89/90/91 are interesting too ...)

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1998/0110/latest/whole.html?search=sw_096be8ed8076bc9e_Expiry+of+de merit+points&p=1#DLM435011

And interestingly ... Section 88 (4) with NO amendments ... states quite clearly ...

Demerit points recorded under subsection (1) have effect on and from ... the date of the commission of the offence for which the points are recorded

[davereid]

Also to clarify - If I have 120 points & don't get served, then after 2 years from the latest infringement ALL my points would be wiped or would the 100 points still be sitting there waiting for me to hand over my licence for 3 months...

Yes, if you managed two years without either being served with the disqualification, or amassing any more demerits, you are in the clear.

Its not a mistake by the powers that be though.

If you have managed to get 100 points in two years, and then you manage to change your driving style so dramatically that you don't even get pulled over for the next two, the demerits have changed your attitude.

And thats what they are supposed to do.

[Parlane]

Yes, if you managed two years without either being served with the disqualification, or amassing any more demerits, you are in the clear.

Its not a mistake by the powers that be though.

If you have managed to get 100 points in two years, and then you manage to change your driving style so dramatically that you don't even get pulled over for the next two, the demerits have changed your attitude.

And thats what they are supposed to do.

Either that or you were successful in 100% of police chases.

[marty]

You're in no mans land Scummie. The Southern HP guys got them months ago, we got ours yesterday. No big deal really. They speed up the processing, but they take time to get used to.

I like them best coz I can actually read the writing on them, as opposed to the latin scrawlings of a couple of my staff.

Ka kite

and the worst thing - the prolific writers are usually have the worst chicken scratch.

[blackdog]

...YOUR...

Flamed from a direction you weren't expecting. It is you're.

You're welcome.

[Mad-V2]

YOU'RE a smart arse.
But I suppose it's better than getting a telling off about stuff I did years ago.

[Parlane]

YOU'RE a smart arse.
But I suppose it's better than getting a telling off about stuff I did years ago.

Haha. Brilliant usage of colour there.