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hardhats
14th October 2011, 22:13
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UPDATE - my new understanding of how this works:
Demerit points start from the date of the offense, no matter when you pay the fine.
The date they are recorded against your licence is the date you pay the fine (or are found guilty in court).
The date your disqualification period starts is the date someone turns up at your house and issues a notice (or the next time you get pulled over and have your licence checked).
IMPORTANT: According to NZTA (but not some here on KB...) if you get issued tickets that total 100 points within any 2 year period you WILL have your licence suspended for 3 months at some point, even if you delay payment until some old demerit points are wiped off (2 years after you received them). Apparently they look at how many demerits you were ticketed for within 2 years, not how many are actually recorded on your licence at any one time.
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Got my first speeding ticket on the bike today.

Was enjoying the dry weather after a week of commuting in the wet and was pulled over for doing 121 after overtaking a truck on a straight stretch of road. A highly dangerous speed apparently.
Didn't notice that the car in the distance coming the other way was a copper until too late due to low sun in the evening. My fault entirely, not trying to avoid blame here.

The problem is, if I pay this ticket before 27th December I will reach the magical 100 demerit points: got a ticket in Dec 09 for towing a trailer behind the cage at 112 on the motorway (while also passing a truck...) and one earlier this year for letting the car speed up over 70 going downhill on a wide, empty street in town. Can't believe how easily the points add up!


Anybody know what will happen if I don't pay this ticket for 2.5 months?

scumdog
15th October 2011, 06:10
You'll have debt collection agency on your tail and possibly a bad credit rating??:mellow:

Taz
15th October 2011, 06:32
Contest it. Should eat up a bit of time. Next time run :)

hardhats
15th October 2011, 11:33
Contest it. Should eat up a bit of time.

Yep, this is kinda what I was thinking. Reckon I'll wait until they send the reminder notice after 28 days and then contest? That'll use up a bit more time.


Next time run :)

Seriously considering removing the plate next week and doing just that... I actually said to the copper I wouldn't be stopping next time. His reply was (word for word), "I don't care if you kill yourself." Interesting attitude considering the aim of handing out speeding tickets is (supposedly) to reduce road fatalities...

scumdog
15th October 2011, 11:48
Seriously considering removing the plate next week and doing just that... I actually said to the copper I wouldn't be stopping next time. His reply was (word for word), "I don't care if you kill yourself." Interesting attitude considering the aim of handing out speeding tickets is (supposedly) to reduce road fatalities...

Well what DID you expect him to say?

"Oh please don't do that, I'd hate to see you get hurt doing something as fuck-witted as a 'doing a runner', please don't do that..."

However, the standard and correct answer he should have used is: "Why are you telling me this? No, really, why are you?"

nosebleed
15th October 2011, 13:45
Yep, this is kinda what I was thinking. Reckon I'll wait until they send the reminder notice after 28 days and then contest? That'll use up a bit more time....

My last Reminder Notice came with added Court Costs.

of course, your resuts may differ.

Crasherfromwayback
15th October 2011, 14:48
of course, your resuts may differ.

More than likely won't though.

hardhats
15th October 2011, 14:49
Well what DID you expect him to say?
...

haha... yeah, no I wasn't expecting a bunch of sympathy from the guy, but something along the lines of "bad idea mate" would have seemed more appropriate at the time.
Your "standard and correct answer" could have led to a much more interesting discussion though...

hardhats
15th October 2011, 14:50
My last Reminder Notice came with added Court Costs.

of course, your resuts may differ.

What were the added costs? Might still be worth it

bsasuper
15th October 2011, 14:56
If you know how to, you can drag it out to 6 months, really piss off the officer who gave you the ticket (he has a family,kids, bitchy wife etc, but some like it this way, what a sad life they have.)

scumdog
15th October 2011, 15:00
If you know how to, you can drag it out to 6 months, really piss off the officer who gave you the ticket (he has a family,kids, bitchy wife etc, but some like it this way, what a sad life they have.)

Hmm, piss them off you say?

I must pay more attention, never seen any officers 'pissed off' with somebody 'dragging out' a speeding ticket that they for some reason want to dispute.

And can you clarify the 'some like it this way' bit???

Crasherfromwayback
15th October 2011, 15:02
Either contest it...or pay the fucking fine. Either way...why the wait?

Madness
15th October 2011, 16:06
It sounds to me like you're fucked already and the date of paying the fine & dragging things out is pointless. AFAIK it's the actual date of the offence(s) that apply to the 100 point accrual.

Maybe you should learn to accept that sometimes it's best to follow the truck :blink:

nosebleed
15th October 2011, 16:25
What were the added costs? Might still be worth it

Was about 40 bucks iirc.

marty
15th October 2011, 17:11
If you know how to, you can drag it out to 6 months, really piss off the officer who gave you the ticket (he has a family,kids, bitchy wife etc, but some like it this way, what a sad life they have.)

yeah you'll really fuck off the cop who didn't care if you killed yourself doing a runner.

FJRider
15th October 2011, 17:27
Yep, this is kinda what I was thinking. Reckon I'll wait until they send the reminder notice after 28 days and then contest? That'll use up a bit more time.

But ... will you still appear in court more than one and a half months AFTER that ... ???

And .... Will the demerits be awarded (I love that description) AFTER the conviction date (if found guilty of course ... :innocent:) ...

Or backdated to the date of the (alleged) infringement ... ??? :corn:


Seriously considering removing the plate next week and doing just that... I actually said to the copper I wouldn't be stopping next time. His reply was (word for word), "I don't care if you kill yourself." Interesting attitude considering the aim of handing out speeding tickets is (supposedly) to reduce road fatalities...

Apart from having no insurance if you do this ... (that is if you had any to start with ... :facepalm:) I believe the cop was at least honest in his comment ... and really only a totally PC wanker could take offence/object ... to what was obviously ... HIS ... personal stance on your desire to endanger YOUR own life ...

If you kill yourself in an attempted runner ... (30 seconds after the chase was "discontinued") ... your family will feel more badly about it ... than him ... :yes:

It probably wont be the first stupid decision you've ever made ... so go ahead ... what have you (left) to lose ... :shifty:

Oh yeah ... mmmmmmmm ... your life ... maybe ...:shutup:

rossirep
15th October 2011, 17:28
pay the fine and get yourself a good radar dectector and fingers crossed thats the last fine you get..

doing the bolt aint wise but sometimes its worth it if you can get away without to much bother, but if you do get busted doing the bolt you'l be in way more shite than had you just taken the speeding ticket..

DrunkenMistake
15th October 2011, 17:39
Ignore what everyone says,
and offer Scummy a hell of a good BJ, whilst singing, "I smell bacon, I smell pork, Run little piggy I have a fork!"
He will enjoy every moment of it!
No promises of him getting you off the ticket though...


:innocent:

scumdog
15th October 2011, 17:44
Ignore what everyone says,
and offer Scummy a hell of a good BJ, whilst singing, "I smell bacon, I smell pork, Run little piggy I have a fork!"
He will enjoy every moment of it!
No promises of him getting you off the ticket though...


:innocent:

Yeah, didn't work for you, did it?.....:shifty:
And it wasn't me, you blind jackass!

FJRider
15th October 2011, 17:45
Ignore what everyone says,
and offer Scummy a hell of a good BJ, whilst singing, "I smell bacon, I smell pork, Run little piggy I have a fork!"
He will enjoy every moment of it!
No promises of him getting you off the ticket though...


:innocent:

Forget the BJ ... receit of a large bag of donuts ..... may fill a more urgent need ... :sunny:

But no promises ... :shifty:

axdout
15th October 2011, 17:56
If keeping your license is worth more to you than the court costs don't pay, wait until the court costs have been added and then set up a weekly payment, of $5.(The guy you talk to on the phone will say you must pay more than this but just show some balls and pay what you want) By the time you pay it off (so long as you get no more tickets) the demerits will have been wiped due to the 2 year rule. Despite what everyone else on this site says, this actually works. Iv'e had no wof x2,Learner unaccompanied, exceeded 50, failure to display lic label in prescribed manner x2, restricted carries unauthorised passenger x4, no reg x3, drove without appropriate lights displayed, failure to produce licence x2, failure to stop at stop sign, unsafe changing of lanes, Driver failing to wear safety helmet. All over a 3 year period and have never lost my Licence due to demerits.
The other way (this one is alleged from my old flat mate) to do it is pay by cheque, If the fine is $100 pay $130 they will then send you a refund cheque of $30 which you throw away and don't cash so the transaction isn't complete. The demerits are not applied until the payment is done and finalised. (I have not tried this one). Have fun!

Madness
15th October 2011, 17:59
The world's not short of experts eh?

I thought you might be needing this (http://www.maxx.co.nz/).

scumdog
15th October 2011, 18:08
If keeping your license is worth more to you than the court costs don't pay, wait until the court costs have been added and then set up a weekly payment, of $5.(The guy you talk to on the phone will say you must pay more than this but just show some balls and pay what you want) By the time you pay it off (so long as you get no more tickets) the demerits will have been wiped due to the 2 year rule. Despite what everyone else on this site says, this actually works. Iv'e had no wof x2,Learner unaccompanied, exceeded 50, failure to display lic label in prescribed manner x2, restricted carries unauthorised passenger x4, no reg x3, drove without appropriate lights displayed, failure to produce licence x2, failure to stop at stop sign, unsafe changing of lanes, Driver failing to wear safety helmet. All over a 3 year period and have never lost my Licence due to demerits.


The other way (this one is alleged from my old flat mate) to do it is pay by cheque, If the fine is $100 pay $130 they will then send you a refund cheque of $30 which you throw away and don't cash so the transaction isn't complete. The demerits are not applied until the payment is done and finalised. (I have not tried this one). Have fun!

Wow, how much $$ would NOT have spent if you hadn't incurred all those easily avoided infringment notices??

Nobody is THAT dumb - ergo you must be a troll?? :shifty:

axdout
15th October 2011, 18:29
Wow, how much $$ would NOT have spent if you hadn't incurred all those easily avoided infringment notices??

Nobody is THAT dumb - ergo you must be a troll?? :shifty:

I am THAT dumb:facepalm:

I also deny committing any of the listed offences, the cops just pick on me:violin:

DrunkenMistake
15th October 2011, 18:49
If keeping your license is worth more to you than the court costs don't pay, wait until the court costs have been added and then set up a weekly payment, of $5.(The guy you talk to on the phone will say you must pay more than this but just show some balls and pay what you want) By the time you pay it off (so long as you get no more tickets) the demerits will have been wiped due to the 2 year rule. Despite what everyone else on this site says, this actually works. Iv'e had no wof x2,Learner unaccompanied, exceeded 50, failure to display lic label in prescribed manner x2, restricted carries unauthorised passenger x4, no reg x3, drove without appropriate lights displayed, failure to produce licence x2, failure to stop at stop sign, unsafe changing of lanes, Driver failing to wear safety helmet. All over a 3 year period and have never lost my Licence due to demerits.
The other way (this one is alleged from my old flat mate) to do it is pay by cheque, If the fine is $100 pay $130 they will then send you a refund cheque of $30 which you throw away and don't cash so the transaction isn't complete. The demerits are not applied until the payment is done and finalised. (I have not tried this one). Have fun!


I am THAT dumb:facepalm:

I also deny committing any of the listed offences, the cops just pick on me:violin:
Dont wanna be a rain cloud on your sunny day,
But ya know..
No crash helmet?
Are you a Darwin award runner up ae? :shifty:

Madness
15th October 2011, 19:05
It looks more impressive as a list;


Iv'e had

No wof
No wof
Learner unaccompanied
Exceeded 50
Failure to display lic label in prescribed manner
Failure to display lic label in prescribed manner
Restricted carries unauthorised passenger
Restricted carries unauthorised passenger
Restricted carries unauthorised passenger
Restricted carries unauthorised passenger
No reg
No reg
No reg
Drove without appropriate lights displayed
Failure to produce licence
Failure to produce licence
Failure to stop at stop sign
Unsafe changing of lanes
Driver failing to wear safety helmet



All over a 3 year period and have never lost my Licence due to demerits.


:facepalm:

axdout
15th October 2011, 19:06
Dont wanna be a rain cloud on your sunny day,
But ya know..
No crash helmet?
Are you a Darwin award runner up ae? :shifty:

On a 49cc pitbike doing a burnout outside my house still counts as operating a motorcycle without a helmet. Told you I am THAT stupid!

axdout
15th October 2011, 19:08
It looks more impressive as a list;



:facepalm:

Im actually not that proud of it, i kind of pissed 5k away, just showing the op there are ways around losing your license due to demerits.

DrunkenMistake
15th October 2011, 19:13
On a 49cc pitbike doing a burnout outside my house still counts as operating a motorcycle without a helmet. Told you I am THAT stupid!

Did your parents ever regret keeping you?
Outta curiosity

Madness
15th October 2011, 19:14
Im actually not that proud of it, i kind of pissed 5k away, just showing the op there are ways around losing your license due to demerits.

Don't worry I've pissed away just as much, if not more. Over a tad longer than three years mind you. How the fuck can you afford tyres & petrol?

FWIW, there are no ways to avoid the accumulation of demerit points in New Zealand, other than to avoid being issued tickets of course. The methods you described above are now water-tight and have been for quite some time.

I wouldn't be suprised if there's already a three month bus pass file in the system with your name on it, just waiting for that "perfect" day.

axdout
15th October 2011, 19:23
Did your parents ever regret keeping you?
Outta curiosity
Nah my mummy loves me, I could be a crack smoking beneficiary that sponges off all you guys, instead I failed to comply with some bogus road rules. I know that makes me a horrible person in the eyes of society but im still her little angel:sunny:

MarkH
16th October 2011, 15:49
On a 49cc pitbike doing a burnout outside my house still counts as operating a motorcycle without a helmet. Told you I am THAT stupid!

Did your parents have any children that lived?

davereid
16th October 2011, 18:15
Got my first speeding ticket on the bike today.
was pulled over for doing 121 after overtaking a truck on a straight stretch of road. The problem is, if I pay this ticket before 27th December I will reach the magical 100 demerit points

The demerits are entered on conviction. But the effective date is the offence date.

Look at it like this.

Get a ticket with 100 demerits on Jan 1. 2001
Dork system around until Jan 1 2011 and then get convicted.
NZTA say gee 100 demerits in less than 2 years, demerit disqual applies.

Defending it only helps of you win.

On the other hand, if you were passing someone, and it was radar used for the ticket, it was an easy win, as multiple vehicles in beam, no evidence against you exists unless you admit speeding.

hardhats
16th October 2011, 21:03
It sounds to me like you're fucked already and the date of paying the fine & dragging things out is pointless. AFAIK it's the actual date of the offence(s) that apply to the 100 point accrual.

Maybe you should learn to accept that sometimes it's best to follow the truck :blink:

Demerit points start from the date you pay the fine. Says so on the ticket. I ain't riding at 80 behind a dirty old truck all the way home on sh2...

hardhats
16th October 2011, 22:20
The demerits are entered on conviction. But the effective date is the offence date...

as multiple vehicles in beam, no evidence against you exists unless you admit speeding.

Sounds like I need to check this effective date issue... Might be pointless to delay after all. If it is as you say, probably best to get the 3 months over asap.

Several cars did pass the truck on the same straight after me. Was a bit gutted the cop picked me to pull over, but I was speeding so fair enough.


Some good suggestions, thanks guys, some not. Radar detector will definitely be on the list for Father Christmas.

Jantar
17th October 2011, 08:56
Demerit points start from the date you pay the fine. Says so on the ticket. I ain't riding at 80 behind a dirty old truck all the way home on sh2...

I haven't received a ticket for quite some time now, so can't comment on the actual wording on the ticket, but I believe the demerits are applied at the time that the fine is paid (ie the offence is admitted), but the start date is at the date of the offence.

Also you're fucked on the two year rule, because once you have 60 demerits none of them are wiped until you go two years without collecting any more points. So it could be up to 4 years for the first of them to drop off.

May I suggest that you try to delay the application of the points so that your 3 months walking time occurs over winter. :cold:

Owl
17th October 2011, 09:20
Also you're fucked on the two year rule, because once you have 60 demerits none of them are wiped until you go two years without collecting any more points. So it could be up to 4 years for the first of them to drop off.

Here we go again.:facepalm: Not the case Jantar:no:

Jantar
17th October 2011, 11:08
Here we go again.:facepalm: Not the case Jantar:no:
You are right. I based that comment on the last letter I received after my last speeding ticket in 2007. It stated that I now had 60 demerit points and that they would all remain for a period of 2 years. I have just checked the legislation and it isn't the number of points that determines when that 2 years kicks in, its the number of offences.

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1998/0110/latest/DLM435014.html?search=qs_all%40act%40bill%40regula tion_demerit_resel&p=1


91 Cancellation and reinstatement of demerit points


(1) When 2 years have elapsed since the commission of an offence in respect of which demerit points were recorded, the entry of the points made in respect of that offence ceases to have effect in relation to the person who committed that offence; but if demerit points were recorded in respect of 2 or more offences committed by that person, the entry ceases to have effect when 2 years have elapsed since the commission of the most recent of those offences.

So its 2 years since your most recent offence irrespective of the number of points. That's worse than I claimed.

Owl
17th October 2011, 11:39
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/act/public/1998/0110/latest/DLM435014.html?search=qs_all%40act%40bill%40regula tion_demerit_resel&p=1

I've read that too Jantar and it reads to me exactly as you describe.

However, I've just phoned the NZ Transport Agency to get confirmation again and they're adamant. The points drop off after 2 years from the date of the offence regardless whether more demerits are accumulated.

Oh and while I was on the phone I asked about mine and 20 demerits are due to be wiped on 6th Feb 2013.

hardhats
17th October 2011, 13:05
Just checked with NZTA myself. I currently have 70 points:
35 points from 27 December 2009
35 points from May 2011

On the 28 December 2011 I will be back to 35 points


Also checked with Police call centre for tickets (0800 105 777). The customer service person told me that if I pay the new fine after 28 December I will not exceed the 100 points. Hope she's right...

Madness
17th October 2011, 14:25
Hope she's right...

She's not.

DrunkenMistake
17th October 2011, 18:56
So its 2 years since your most recent offence irrespective of the number of points. That's worse than I claimed.
It is when you try your best to drop the ones you currently have then pick one up in the morning on the way to work..

Who the hell expects to overtake a mufti cop at 7am!? haha.. :violin:
I also got a new ticket, it looks more like a receipt than the usual hand written ticket

Winston001
17th October 2011, 19:27
Also checked with Police call centre for tickets (0800 105 777). The customer service person told me that if I pay the new fine after 28 December I will not exceed the 100 points. Hope she's right...

No, she's incorrect. The law for the date demerit points accrued from was amended a few years ago to stop people stringing out the prosecution process. It used to be the effective date was the date of conviction, which for most people was the date you paid the fine (a de facto admission of guilty).

Now the law states demerits accrue from the date of the offence.

However: I do wonder just how efficient the matching up of data from the Department of Courts to the Police really is. Its human beings entering the data and I can see how easy it might be for the effective date to mistakenly be recorded as when the fine is paid or a conviction entered.

scumdog
17th October 2011, 19:34
And don't forget there's some sucky fish-hooks with demerits.
Like if you are stoopid enough to get done for E.B.A you also get 50 demerits.

So...if you already had (for example) 60 points before you got your 6-months disqualy you will have the said 50 points tacked on - and get you lil 'ol licence plucked from your hot lil hand for another 3 months...

Sucks to be you at that point.:(

Madness
17th October 2011, 19:35
It's almost enough to make you consider buying a Harley. Almost.

scumdog
17th October 2011, 19:37
It's almost enough to make you consider buying a Harley. Almost.

Hey, that might be the answer!!:woohoo:

'Cos I've got a Harley and NO demerits:2thumbsup

DrunkenMistake
17th October 2011, 19:56
Hey, that might be the answer!!:woohoo:

'Cos I've got a Harley and NO demerits:2thumbsup

Dirty cop!
:shutup:




Just playing.

hardhats
18th October 2011, 09:50
No, she's incorrect...
Now the law states demerits accrue from the date of the offence.



She's not.


You are both correct. She was not.
The helpful people at NZTA also confirmed this today. Should have asked them the first time...

I'll just pay the ticket today and get on with it. That way I'll hopefully have a clean licence back in my hand before my planned trip in February. At least I'll save some money (more than the fine) by putting the rego on hold on both my bikes for the next 3 months :bleh:

Maybe these new supermarket style tickets could have this issue clarified in the information section on the back:

e.g. ...if the offence is one to which demerit points apply, demerit points will be recorded against you upon payment of the infringement fee but will accrue from the date of the offence.

Madness
18th October 2011, 16:30
e.g. ...if the offence is one to which demerit points apply, demerit points will be recorded against you upon payment of the infringement fee or upon filing a Notice Of Fine with the District Court (pursuant to the Summary Proceedings Act 1957) following non-payment to Police but will accrue from the date of the offence.

I fixed it for ya. Sorry you've got this hanging over your head coming in to summer (been there kind of, it sucks arse) but at least you know where you stand. Remember to allow time for the wheels to turn slowly - you may want to keep one bike rego'd in 3 monthly blocks?

FJRider
18th October 2011, 16:35
Hey, that might be the answer!!:woohoo:

'Cos I've got a Harley and NO demerits:2thumbsup

I got a Yamaha ... and no demerits ... am confused now ... :mellow:

Padmei
30th October 2011, 19:36
Do you get demerits for no wof or rego?

Someone today said you do but I have searched & can't find anything.
The reason i'm asking is that it seems silly that if you get done for no rego twice a year it's cheaper than getting regoed in the first place...

DrunkenMistake
30th October 2011, 20:16
Do you get demerits for no wof or rego?

Someone today said you do but I have searched & can't find anything.
The reason i'm asking is that it seems silly that if you get done for no rego twice a year it's cheaper than getting regoed in the first place...

Im pretty sure you get demerits for no rego now

davereid
31st October 2011, 06:37
Yes you now get demerits for driving a vehicle that is on exemption, if ticketed by a policeman. No demerits for tickets by meter maid.

Flip
31st October 2011, 22:40
Hey, that might be the answer!!:woohoo:

'Cos I've got a Harley and NO demerits:2thumbsup

I'm another Harley rider with no demerits :woohoo::innocent:

BoristheBiter
1st November 2011, 06:39
Do you get demerits for no wof or rego?

Someone today said you do but I have searched & can't find anything.
The reason i'm asking is that it seems silly that if you get done for no rego twice a year it's cheaper than getting regoed in the first place...


Im pretty sure you get demerits for no rego now

here are the demerit lists.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/motorcycle-road-code/about-your-responsibilities/stepping-over-the-line.html#demerit

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/about-driver-responsibility/stepping-over-the-line.html

Padmei
1st November 2011, 19:06
here are the demerit lists.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/motorcycle-road-code/about-your-responsibilities/stepping-over-the-line.html#demerit

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/roadcode/about-driver-responsibility/stepping-over-the-line.html

Yep those are the same ones that came up when I researched it. I guess there aren't any demerit points unless they haven't updated the website...

Madness
1st November 2011, 19:10
Yep those are the same ones that came up when I researched it. I guess there aren't any demerit points unless they haven't updated the website...

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/4849437/Demerit-points-hiked-for-unlicensed-cars

The online lists have always been like swiss cheese.

BoristheBiter
1st November 2011, 19:19
Yep those are the same ones that came up when I researched it. I guess there aren't any demerit points unless they haven't updated the website...

They havn't updated the website, here is a better one.

http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/1999/0099/latest/DLM280512.html

77(1)(a) Operating motor vehicle by driving or using it on road in contravention of section 242(1) 20 points.

Padmei
2nd November 2011, 07:03
Good stuff. I will be a bit more lawabiding now I know the consequences

Ants
2nd November 2011, 16:32
What are these "demerits" of which you spake? :rolleyes:

The Pastor
3rd November 2011, 15:39
as much as it pains me to type this AGAIN. I will. Because you all are noobs.


FACTS.


1. Demerits start from date of offense. (this is to do with the 2 year period)

2. Demerits get added to you license WHEN YOU PLEAD GUILTY TO THE OFFENSE. This is either deemed by court OR from when you pay the fine.

3. You have 28 days to pay the fine.

4. After 28 days you get a reminder and another 28 days. If you want to fight the ticket, this is when you write in (but leave to last possible min)

5. After the reminder the case goes to court (you dont get summoned or anything, if you dont turn up and defend its treated as guilty)

6. When the court deems you guilty the demerits apply (+ anywhere from $30 to $130 court costs, usually $30), from the date of the offense (notice that its now 2 and a bit months from offense)

7. If you want to pay it off at like $10 a week you have to let it go through court. If you dont pay it, the court orders your employer to pay it out of ur paycheck.


Now the explanation on how to save ur license.

say you on 90 demerits, you get a ticket for 20 points and 50 of those points drop off within 2 months (2 year expiry), if you delay (and the best bit is you dont have to do anything!) the payment for 2 months, by the time your new points get added, you will be only be on 60 points and you wont lose your license.

this is fact, and that is why you should never pay your speeding tickets.

Chur

p.s. Im not 100% sure but you might get 2 reminder notices, which would bring it up to 3 months delay but i cant remember so left it out.

hardhats
3rd November 2011, 16:46
Now the explanation on how to save ur license.

say you on 90 demerits, you get a ticket for 20 points and 50 of those points drop off within 2 months (2 year expiry), if you delay (and the best bit is you dont have to do anything!) the payment for 2 months, by the time your new points get added, you will be only be on 60 points and you wont lose your license.



Have you successfully saved your licence using this method recently? That is what I thought when I first looked at the issue, but the NZTA people very clearly told me it wouldn't work. Their understanding is:
Even if I never have more than 100 demerits registered against my licence at any one time (e.g. by delaying payment of a new ticket), the fact that more than 100 were ACCRUED during a 2 year period (dates of offenses) means I will still lose my licence for 3 months at some point.
As I had been given tickets totalling more than 100 points within a 2 year period, the only way to avoid losing my licence was to successfully defend my case in court.

Interestingly, I paid the fine over 2 weeks ago and currently have 105 points (checked this yesterday with NZTA). Haven't heard anything from them about losing my licence yet. Apparently someone has to come to my house and tell me in person. Not sure how that'll work, considering my job means I'm (almost) never at home unless sleeping...



On the topic of demerits for no rego, I was also recently given a ticket for this by a police officer at a routine checkpoint. He told me I would receive 15 or 20 demerits for it but never wrote anything about demerits on the ticket. I paid the $100 fine but haven't received any points for that offense. Maybe I just got lucky?

Madness
3rd November 2011, 16:52
as much as it pains me to type this AGAIN. I will. Because you all are noobs.


FACTS.



Facts my arse. You're a little out of date there, 2nd most badass KiwiBikerDude.....

The Pastor
3rd November 2011, 16:54
Have you successfully saved your licence using this method recently? That is what I thought when I first looked at the issue, but the NZTA people very clearly told me it wouldn't work. Their understanding is:
Even if I never have more than 100 demerits registered against my licence at any one time (e.g. by delaying payment of a new ticket), the fact that more than 100 were ACCRUED during a 2 year period (dates of offenses) means I will still lose the licence for 3 months at some point.

Interestingly, I paid the fine over 2 weeks ago and currently have 105 points (checked this yesterday with NZTA). Haven't heard anything from them about losing my licence yet. Apparently someone has to come to my house and tell me in person. Not sure how that'll work, considering my job means I'm (almost) never at home unless sleeping...



On the topic of demerits for no rego, I was also recently given a ticket for this by a police officer at a routine checkpoint. He told me I would receive 15 or 20 demerits for it but never wrote anything about demerits on the ticket. I paid the $100 fine but haven't received any points for that offense. Maybe I just got lucky?



ive done it once or twice..........


Yes the guy (civilian) will come take it off you (or if you get pulled over for anything expect to walk home). You can successfully dodge the guy coming who takes it, but your just delaying the loss of license. (mate did it for a year lol)

there is a good thread on kb on how to apply for a work license.

scumdog
3rd November 2011, 20:13
Yes the guy (civilian) will come take it off you (or if you get pulled over for anything expect to walk home). You can successfully dodge the guy coming who takes it, but your just delaying the loss of license. (mate did it for a year lol)

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But if you're stopped by a policeman he'll nicely take the licence off you at the side of the road - very convenient I'm sure...:innocent: