Racing on roads

[TIBLE_90]

I was thinking about how bikers who race on roads are somewhat responsible for creating a bad image of bikers, and stumbled across this video..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOGJqYhcD2w&feature=related

These guys are insane:shit::shutup:...So I was just wondering how many people, if any, had come across anything like this here in New Zealand. I have seen a a few guys going somewhat speedy up and down 16, but nothing like this. I suppose they don't have tracks in Greece... :facepalm:

[5150]

:gob::facepalm:

[BigAl]

Looks like one of my trips down the shops...........

[Crasherfromwayback]

Well they do say Greeks like it in the ass, and both of those cunts certainly do take it in the ass.

Bet anything you like...if you took them to a race track...where they could go as fast as they liked, they'd be slow.

[tigertim20]

at about 55 seconds after passing that car he had a wee momment there, good fun!.
There are certain roads in NZ, in every region, that get treated like a racetrack.

[skippa1]

whats with just pulling in the clutch and locking it up on the bends?:blink:forgetting the speed in traffic, too much time on the wrong side of the road for me.:facepalm:

[bsasuper]

There are 2 idiots, one on a GSXR1000,one on a GSXR600, they like to race each other in WAIUKU, I know who one is, and sad to say he and his mate will not last long.

[rossirep]

looks like a normal sunday ride to Akaroa if you ask me ,, .. its not called the Akaroa GP for nothing

[rossirep]

Well they do say Greeks like it in the ass, and both of those cunts certainly do take it in the ass.

Bet anything you like...if you took them to a race track...where they could go as fast as they liked, they'd be slow.

what makes you think they would be slow on the track..?? im sure they would kick arse out there, mind you, your the hardcore biker who has posted 6,305 times on kiwibiker, so chances are you know best.. lol,

[Rhys]

whats with just pulling in the clutch and locking it up on the bends?:blink:forgetting the speed in traffic, too much time on the wrong side of the road for me.:facepalm:

I was thing the same thing

Perhaps they should try a track day and learn to ride fast and safely

[MikeD400]

That was a solid effort by those two! The guy that ended up leading had alot better control of the bike than the gsxR which had the camera he was locking shit up and kaking in his grundies lawl!

[Subike]

muppets
if those two are still riding today, then fuck they are lucky.
A very good display of how NOT to ride on the road,
High risk, no concideration for "what if"
no wonder we get a bad name.
Bloody stupid fuckers
they are the type of rider who not only kill themselves but innocents as well

[Reckless]

whats with just pulling in the clutch and locking it up on the bends?.:facepalm:

Yeh mate talk about over shooting :facepalm:

But the question was asked ???
Crasher don't you remember the Taka's every weekend!
ha that was when there used to be real corners on that hill, a shop and a toilet up the top, booming Yoshies and Murawaki's and a hundred bikers there most of the time.

GPZ1100 vs Katana1100 :facepalm: Prob very lucky to be alive to be honest! Not that proud of it now but I bet there's quite a few here that wont confess :shutup:

[MikeD400]

Bloody stupid fuckers

For some reason this made me lmao, comment of the day in those three words right there.

[Berries]

Ahh, the Catlins on a summer weekday afternoon.


forgetting the speed in traffic, too much time on the wrong side of the road for me.:facepalm:
I think they drive on the right in Greece.

[Grantman_]

Sure some of their riding is lunacy. But if you've seen the vid and not been impressed on some level, you're missing something. Namely the heart of a biker, or at least sport biker.

[unstuck]

Looks like a ride over the moa flat hill to roxburgh from gore to get a JIMMYS.:Punk:

[Katman]

Sure some of their riding is lunacy. But if you've seen the vid and not been impressed on some level, you're missing something. Namely the heart of a biker, or at least sport biker.

:facepalm:

[racefactory]

Well they do say Greeks like it in the ass, and both of those cunts certainly do take it in the ass.

Bet anything you like...if you took them to a race track...where they could go as fast as they liked, they'd be slow.

Well you'd be wrong. They are national level Greek Sbk racers, just fooling around on the road here.

[Crasherfromwayback]

what makes you think they would be slow on the track..?? im sure they would kick arse out there, mind you, your the hardcore biker who has posted 6,305 times on kiwibiker, so chances are you know best.. lol,

Because most pussies that ride like that are just that on a track. Not that you'd know.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Well you'd be wrong. They are national level Greek Sbk racers, just fooling around on the road here.

Says who????

[scumdog]

Ahh, the Catlins on a summer weekday afternoon..

So it WASN'T you that got killed there?

Was it you that cart-wheeled over the bank at Papatowai?

Or was it you that...

Bloody tricky 'racetrack' for some that Catlins, scenery and oncoming traffic seem to leap out all over the place...:doh::rolleyes:

[Biggles08]

Well you'd be wrong. They are national level Greek Sbk racers, just fooling around on the road here.

If that is the case I want to go race in Greece! Going by this video they are NOT good racers, they have good bike control in fucked up situations but that's it...in fact I'd hazzard a guess not regular track riders looking at the way they approach corners. Just a couple of muppets out for an adrenalin hit. Newsflash racefactory...if your getting a regular hit of adrenalin when riding YOUR DOING IT WRONG!

[scumdog]

Sure some of their riding is lunacy. But if you've seen the vid and not been impressed on some level, you're missing something. Namely the heart of a biker, or at least sport biker.

True.

I was impressed on the "Fucking idiots ride like that and are still alive??" level.<_<

[Quasievil]

PFFT Ive known better Road riders / Racers than that, they Are both dead now
Go around a corner and see your two best mates dead ......................then ask yourself how COOL that is

keep it for the track.


shut ya face Katman.

[nosebleed]

I was thinking about how bikers who race on roads are somewhat responsible for creating a bad image of bikers, and stumbled across this video..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOGJqYhcD2w&feature=related

These guys are insane:shit::shutup:...So I was just wondering how many people, if any, had come across anything like this here in New Zealand. I have seen a a few guys going somewhat speedy up and down 16, but nothing like this. I suppose they don't have tracks in Greece... :facepalm:

While we're dragging up old videos and getting all indignant, you might enjoy this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ_GVQRRCGg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[Ocean1]

While we're dragging up old videos and getting all indignant, you might enjoy this...


Mmmmmmm, shiny!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ_GVQRRCGg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[Owl]

shut ya face Katman.

Enter Katman...........or Enter Sandman?

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[scumdog]

While we're dragging up old videos and getting all indignant, you might enjoy this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ_GVQRRCGg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Dumb & Dumber Racing Inc.!

Best result ever.
:2thumbsup
Two cock-smokers took themselves out
Neither was seriously hurt.
They didn't involve any others in their crash

AND the push-bikes they overtook repassed them while they nursed their pain.

The fact they crashed was no surprise - the only surprise was it wasn't into somebody else.

Like say two other motorcyclists 'racing' in a similar manner but going in the opposite direction...
:corn:

[Teflon]

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[boman]

There are 2 idiots, one on a GSXR1000,one on a GSXR600, they like to race each other in WAIUKU, I know who one is, and sad to say he and his mate will not last long.

And a young guy on a Green Kwaka. I think he rides with those two also..

[Brett]

Was that a failed bunch of attempts at backing it in by the rider with the cam???

[Crasherfromwayback]

Was that a failed bunch of attempts at backing it in by the rider with the cam???

Pretty much 100% fail everything in my opinion!

[Drew]

if your getting a regular hit of adrenalin when riding YOUR DOING IT WRONG!

Bullshit Marcus! If you don't get a rush when you're racing (which is where you do most of your riding), YOU'RE doing it wrong.

To the OP asking if I've seen anything like that, yip. Every Thursday night. Just ask anyone who doesn't go on TRTNR but knows of it, they'll tell you it's how we roll.

[george formby]

Their is a road up around the Scottish borders which hosts a GP every weekend. Dozens of riders going back & forth & dozens more spectating on the best corners. On Monday morning some of the corners have as much rubber on them as a race track would & you can see the white lines on the road off the hero blobs dragging. Some of the riders are f@#$%n insane & some of them are genuine Proddy racers. It's a lethal environment. So, yeah, seen plenty of road "racing" & it's consequences.

[cheshirecat]

.Of course the Russians have their own way of riding thru traffic. After the wheelies in oncoming traffic it gets interesting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nmku6NaUZC8

Brings back memories of London DRing doesn't it Katman!

[Berries]

if your getting a regular hit of adrenalin when riding YOUR DOING IT WRONG!
Bollocks. The reason I got a bike in the first place was the adrenaline. The reason I continue to ride is the same. It sure isn't for the comfort, weather protection, music, normal clothes, load carrying capacity, fuel economy, or any of the other myriad reasons not to ride a bike.

My question would be why do people ride if not for the adrenaline?

[Quasievil]

My question would be why do people ride if not for the adrenaline?

If youre squeezing out Adrenalin everytime you ride good luck while it lasts.......it stops when youre dead

Racing is for the track, end of fucking story

[PrincessBandit]

Bollocks. The reason I got a bike in the first place was the adrenaline. The reason I continue to ride is the same. It sure isn't for the comfort, weather protection, music, normal clothes, load carrying capacity, fuel economy, or any of the other myriad reasons not to ride a bike.

My question would be why do people ride if not for the adrenaline?

While I agree to some extent with what you've said I would have to strongly question the MO of how you go about getting your adrenaline rush on 2 wheels.

I certainly do understand that riding can be an exhilarating experience and one which should certainly be using 110% of your brain power while doing it (ups the level of concentration and survival mode). What I object to, as many will know from my previous posts of this nature, is the fact that public safety is obviously waaaaay down the list of priorities by people such as those in the OP vid. They clearly rate their own need for the rush higher than the mortal safety of ordinary joe public road user.

I'd even go so far as to say they must have enormous egos to believe that their godlike prowess overrides the right of others on the road to safety.

[The Pastor]

i dont see anything too bad with that vid, i love the wheelies as they pass every car hahah

[TIBLE_90]

While I agree to some extent with what you've said I would have to strongly question the MO of how you go about getting your adrenaline rush on 2 wheels.

I certainly do understand that riding can be an exhilarating experience and one which should certainly be using 110% of your brain power while doing it (ups the level of concentration and survival mode). What I object to, as many will know from my previous posts of this nature, is the fact that public safety is obviously waaaaay down the list of priorities by people such as those in the OP vid. They clearly rate their own need for the rush higher than the mortal safety of ordinary joe public road user.

I'd even go so far as to say they must have enormous egos to believe that their godlike prowess overrides the right of others on the road to safety.

I agree with you about the safety issue, however, car drivers who are going the speed limit can be just as dangerous. I was riding home on the mtwy today and this old lady pulls right into my lane without looking and runs me off the road. So, while I agree that racing should be kept for the track I disagree that joe public is a safe individual. Joe public is just as much as a problem as the bike racers are, at least in my opinion. This opinion is based on my personal experience, that is, being hit by joe public and his car and having multiple close calls due to joe public.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'd even go so far as to say they must have enormous egos to believe that their godlike prowess overrides the right of others on the road to safety.

No. I think they're just stupid useless dickheads.

[MikeD400]

NO MY OPINION IS THE BEST!.....

This thread makes me lol, i like it! :innocent:

[Biggles08]

Bullshit Marcus! If you don't get a rush when you're racing (which is where you do most of your riding), YOU'RE doing it wrong.

To the OP asking if I've seen anything like that, yip. Every Thursday night. Just ask anyone who doesn't go on TRTNR but knows of it, they'll tell you it's how we roll.

Hahaha...its been way too long Drew!:love: (I knew you couldn't resist that one!)

But seriously, exhilarating, exciting, awakening and all other sorts of feelings DO flow, but I know when I have adrenalin and its only when I fuck up and think I'm about to die...I don't race for that feeling.

I know a lot of people like the feeling of "oh shit, this is it for me!" but that ain't me. Call it old age I guess :violin:

[Biggles08]

Bollocks. The reason I got a bike in the first place was the adrenaline. The reason I continue to ride is the same. It sure isn't for the comfort, weather protection, music, normal clothes, load carrying capacity, fuel economy, or any of the other myriad reasons not to ride a bike.

My question would be why do people ride if not for the adrenaline?

Do you race Berries? You seem to think the only exciting feeling that is possible is adrenalin? I disagree, and in fact I don't enjoy the uncontrolled burst of adrenalin you get when your about to die...I'll leave that to the squids that ride like in the OP vid.

I can answer your last question easily...I'm addicted.

I'm addicted to getting faster and better...that's why I get on a bike. Once I'm too old and sore to continue on this path, I'm sure I will still be around bikes to try and help some other young up and comer to realize their talent. Its 100% NOT about adrenelin and its all about the challenge.

[Crasherfromwayback]

. Once I'm too old and sore to continue on this path, I'm sure I will still be around bikes to try and help some other young up and comer to realize their talent. Its 100% NOT about adrenelin and its all about the challenge.

That's the joy of motorcycles to me. After owning them and riding them for 35 years...I'm still learning new things and enjoying them!

[actungbaby]

Yes i not even going watch it The race track is place to go fast not the road if ride 10/10 on the road your moron worse still
you chould take out someone esle as well , back in the day i was in chc motorcycle club and heard later 2 of the guys died when
where racing side by side and bikes got hooked up on each other damm , what a waste , i thought dude was bullet proof
i was tail end charlie and chould hear that gsx 750 howling around the port hills and cb 900 least am still alive today thou


:gob::facepalm:

[Berries]

Do you race Berries? You seem to think the only exciting feeling that is possible is adrenalin?
No, only ridden on a track once (with Crasherfromwayback but he won't remember me). I did used to jump out of planes quite a lot and it was the adrenaline/rush whatever you want to call it that kept me doing it, as well as keeps me riding the bike. I'm not talking about "oh my God I'm going to die" moments, I try my best not to have them, but I do enjoy getting off the bike with a big grin on my face. I have never had that on four wheels, and on the bike, like skydiving, it isn't a common occurrence, but it keeps me sane.

[actungbaby]

No, only ridden on a track once. I did used to jump out of planes quite a lot and it was the adrenaline/rush whatever you want to call it that kept me doing it, as well as keeps me riding the bike. I'm not talking about "oh my God I'm going to die" moments, I try my best not to have them, but I do enjoy getting off the bike with a big grin on my face. I have never had that on four wheels, and on the bike, like skydiving, it isn't a common occurrence, but it keeps me sane.

yes i hear what you saying mate yes agree 100 % with you just ride inside your limits is all dont try push it to far
bit fear is good reminds us when to stop but just dont ignore the signs is all not syaing dont have fun trills though
id be last person to say that. i for one should in therory not go back to motorbikes as am 48 and have 18 month old son and
another on the way , but something telling me to get back into it and go with my gut instinks as happy dad is happy husband too
but i going be carefull though i got to be around for my family its my job

[Berries]

but something telling me to get back into it and go with my gut instinks
I've not replied twice, but I have to say it. I've got two kids under five, now I realise why my wife's guts stink.

[DrunkenMistake]

at about 55 seconds after passing that car he had a wee momment there, good fun!.
There are certain roads in NZ, in every region, that get treated like a racetrack.
yes we know which one we should close off for a road race event.. :innocent:


I've not replied twice, but I have to say it. I've got two kids under five, now I realise why my wife's guts stink.

Dirty Dunedin seamen?

[Crasherfromwayback]

No, only ridden on a track once (with Crasherfromwayback but he won't remember me).

Only because I don't like sharing mate!

[Berries]

Yeah, your missus did say that.


Dirty Dunedin seamen?
I have asked the question.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah, your missus did say that.




Good on her!

[DrunkenMistake]

Yeah, your missus did say that.


I have asked the question.
Well played.

[Biggles08]

No, only ridden on a track once (with Crasherfromwayback but he won't remember me). I did used to jump out of planes quite a lot and it was the adrenaline/rush whatever you want to call it that kept me doing it, as well as keeps me riding the bike. I'm not talking about "oh my God I'm going to die" moments, I try my best not to have them, but I do enjoy getting off the bike with a big grin on my face. I have never had that on four wheels, and on the bike, like skydiving, it isn't a common occurrence, but it keeps me sane.

I 100% believe that adrenilin/rush that you are talking about are two completely separate things commonly understood as the same thing. Some people actually are "Adrenalin Junkies" and these are the type of people who like the thought of cheating death. The fact that you jump out of planes doesn't mean you are this type of person persay. If you jumped out of planes without wearing a chute and attempted to put it on as you were free falling with imminent death if you failed...this would then put you in that class. Like the "Closer to the Edge - 3DTT" movie where they describe the difference between 'track racing' and 'Isle of Mann TT Racing' as rock climbing with the safety harness (track racing) vs without (Isle of Mann). I like the safety of track racing and this is why I would never race at Isle of Mann. I know other people are different and need this danger aspect to get the same fulfillment as I get by my means. These type of people lean more towards adrenalin junkies but still not 100% there as they still need the bike for the thrill.

I would classify myself as an 'action junkie' because I like the rush of facing a challenge and working at bettering myself at whatever I am doing. Like you I enjoy flight as I have my pilots license. People who know me properly know I prepare well for whatever challenge I am about to do. I do EVERYTHING I possibly can to ensure I do not get a shot of adrenalin while completing the challenge. If I succeed in doing this, it is then I get most enjoyment. I am not an adrenalin junkie but I like the rush and excitement.

[Drew]

I 100% believe that...Blah blah blah...I do not get a shot of adrenalin while completing the challenge. If I succeed in doing this, it is then I get most enjoyment. I am not an adrenalin junkie but I like the rush and excitement.

So you're saying that if your prep fails and you have a moment it's a fail, and you didn't enjoy it?

You should play professional backgammon or somehting similar then, as ya can't prep the rest of the field on a rae track, or the other road users in that environment.

[Biggles08]

So you're saying that if your prep fails and you have a moment it's a fail, and you didn't enjoy it?

Nope, not saying that, just don't live for the feeling of 'having a moment' and would rather not have them.



You should play professional backgammon or somehting similar then, as ya can't prep the rest of the field on a rae track, or the other road users in that environment.
Nope you can't control the world is what your saying...but that's got nothing to do with my point...that's part of the challenge of racing.

[Berries]

Some people actually are "Adrenalin Junkies" and these are the type of people who like the thought of cheating death. The fact that you jump out of planes doesn't mean you are this type of person persay. ....................... I do EVERYTHING I possibly can to ensure I do not get a shot of adrenalin while completing the challenge. If I succeed in doing this, it is then I get most enjoyment. I am not an adrenalin junkie but I like the rush and excitement.

Always thought of myself as a dopamine addict. Gave up jumping when I no longer got the rush from a normal jump, and had to start cutting corners or pushing things to get it back. Not likely to end well. But it was legal, which brings us back on topic. Invariably, when I do take my helmet off and have a big grin or am gibbering like an idiot it is because of something that happened that more than likely was not in full compliance with a particular law or two. I value my licence so it is a balancing act every time I ride – feeling alive vs licence preservation vs chance of getting hurt. I’m obviously getting old because my decisions have changed over the years, I haven’t even redlined my latest bike in top gear yet and rarely go over 160km/h, which in the UK was the point where ‘speeding’ started. The big change, and one that relates to this thread, is that I don’t race on the road. To make sure I’m not tempted I never ride with other people - I have never seen the point of riding with others unless you were having a race to be honest anyway.

If there was a race track within 15 minutes/half an hour of Dunedin then I would probably get my two wheel kicks on it. There isn’t. So I will have to continue getting my fix of whatever we call it on the road being mindful of Police enforcement, negative public reaction and the fact I want to come home to the kids every night.

Some won’t like it but hey, we all ride for different reasons.

[Grantman_]

Found this vid not long ago. Shows a bit of the spirit behind sportbiking on the road. A year ago I wouldn't have identified with these people as I didn't ride. Now things are different. The drive to develop your skill, to ride a sportbike better, to touch the knee down on faster corners etc almost causes a gravitation by default to the types in the vid.


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[sharp2183]

It's true that people ride for different reasons, but in my experience the ones who advocate hard riding on the road are the ones who don't usually have first hand experience of truly terrible crashes.

A bit like what Quasie said, it's not so exciting when you go round a corner and see your best mates or family dead/near fatally injured. And what if you hit a pedestrian or something?

Makes you think about the important things in life I reckon. I get my kicks in other ways.

[swbarnett]

My question would be why do people ride if not for the adrenaline?
There was a 60 minutes article last week about Alex Honnold "Alex is not just any rock climber - he scales walls higher than the EmpireStateBuilding, and does so without any ropes or protection." He is the only person to free climb Yosemite's Half Dome. When asked about adrenaline he commented that "There is no adrenaline rush, you know? Like if I get a rush, it means that something has gone horribly wrong, you know?"

Like any human endeavour that we choose to do (as oppossed to out of a necessity to sustain our physical existance), it's about the CONNECTION. Connection the the environment. Connection to one's soul.

[Katman]

It's true that people ride for different reasons, but in my experience the ones who advocate hard riding on the road are the ones who don't usually have first hand experience of truly terrible crashes.



It would be interesting to see how Grantman's attitude would change after losing a few close friends to racing on the road.

[cheshirecat]

[QUOTE=Katman;1130181419]It would be interesting to see how Grantman's attitude would change after losing a few close friends to racing on the road.[/QUOTE}
Plus one. I read on one of the FB pages how one rider, who considered themselves experienced, took a blind corner close, ended up wide. Being as the corner in question was known to him, on a narrow road and subject to oncomming bikes and cars doing the same thing it make me thankful I (or anyone) wasn't riding with him or meeting him in the opposite direction.

Most get away with such stuff as seen in Grantmans video, most of the time, even a 1000 times maybe. But based on the law of averages alone, one day something will happen as sure as night follows day. Like Katman I spent some time DRing in London. I used to reckon a close shave about once every two weeks. When I mean close shave I mean thereby by the grace of God I'm still on this planet. Bearing in mind one got more 'incidents' before lunchtime than most riders get in a year I considered one serious narrow miss once a fortnight good going and scaling up for general road riding gives about once every year, which I try and minimise these days using my DR experience and not doing stuff like in that video.

How do close shave stats for weekend 'going for a fang' riders work out - one close shave a year perhaps and if so how many years before a big one involving someone else?

Of course as mentioned above reality of ones mortality is heightened by encountering the reality of traffic accidents which I might add would account for the attitude of police who have to pick up the pieces and tell next of kin, on a daily basis.

[Grantman_]

I'm the calculating type. I'm not into rolling the dice in blind maneuvers. You're only as good as you've practiced. I have one recent friend who rides and we rarely meet. If a hot headed friend should die doing something wrong on the road, they alone are responsible for their actions.

[bsasuper]

I'm the calculating type. I'm not into rolling the dice in blind maneuvers. You're only as good as you've practiced. I have one recent friend who rides and we rarely meet. If a hot headed friend should die doing something wrong on the road, they alone are responsible for their actions.

Unfortunately someone's "own" actions affect other peoples lives, like the twat on his yamaha who came around a corner on the wrong side of the road killing a biker coming the other way on the coromandel.

[cheshirecat]

I'm the calculating type. I'm not into rolling the dice in blind maneuvers. You're only as good as you've practiced. I have one recent friend who rides and we rarely meet. If a hot headed friend should die doing something wrong on the road, they alone are responsible for their actions.
Absolutely. Trouble is there are too many whose calculated margins are a trifle thin when taking into account the unexpected. There was a thread a while back here about what we'd hit whilst riding. Someone hit an octopus. I knew someone who almost hit an elephant once whilst driving very slowly down a foggy English country lane. The fact the elephant was bright pink didn't help his explanation to the police.

[Grantman_]

Unfortunately someone's "own" actions affect other peoples lives, like the twat on his yamaha who came around a corner on the wrong side of the road killing a biker coming the other way on the coromandel.
He is responsible for the results of his actions. Not me nor anyone else.


Absolutely. Trouble is there are too many whose calculated margins are a trifle thin when taking into account the unexpected. There was a thread a while back here about what we'd hit whilst riding. Someone hit an octopus. I knew someone who almost hit an elephant once whilst driving very slowly down a foggy English country lane. The fact the elephant was bright pink didn't help his explanation to the police.

It gets to the point whereby trying to control for all manor of variables means staying at home in bed. There is always a balance. Different people will have different balances ranging along a perceived scale, a scale that differs depending on who is looking at it.

[willytheekid]

It's true that people ride for different reasons, but in my experience the ones who advocate hard riding on the road are the ones who don't usually have first hand experience of truly terrible crashes.

A bit like what Quasie said, it's not so exciting when you go round a corner and see your best mates or family dead/near fatally injured. And what if you hit a pedestrian or something?

Makes you think about the important things in life I reckon. I get my kicks in other ways.

Well said and sadly very true....it certainly changed my riding style...and life!, many years ago.

I grew up with bikes....I was bat shit crazy on both dirt & road bikes, I just loved racing and pushing the limits on two wheels:yes:.....then everything changed.

I watched one of my best friends lose control mid courner during a high speed road race we were having....he drifted wide....and got hit head-on by a car.....he didn't stand a chance!.....everything changes after you have tried to keep "most" of your best friends brain inside his helmet...to be covered in blood and brain matter while struggling to find life where there is none.....and to then "try" and explain to his family and twin sister what happened...and how you were partly responcible.
.....we were 16yrs old.

The sound of his twin sister screaming "murderers!, you guys & your F#@ing bikes killed him!"....will haunt me for the rest of my life.


That crash gave me nightmares for years!....reliving the moment of impact and all the gory shit that followed...then having to wake up and wash my hands because I can stiil feel the blood & brains on my hands....and it didn't end there.

I had to go on from this crash and bury another 2 of my best friends!....thats 3!....in the same year!
.....and ALL because of dangerous riding & racing on the road.

I am now...sadly, the last one left....out of 7 of my childhood motorcycle best friends :(
....all of them thought it was cool to race on the roads and push the limits...well they found their limits...and the result was always the same.

I went to advanced rider training due to the above, and I learnt how to "survive" on the roads and how to have fun and be safe on the road and the race track.....and I truly regret that my friends weren't around to join me.

I truly pray that none of you have to live with your best friend dying in your arms as I have, or to have to go to funeral after funeral till your sick to your stomach with the senseless loss.......just to learn the most basic lesson of motorcycling......."speed!...save it for the track!...and just focus on surviving!"

So please......Don't learn the hardway like I did.....it WILL stay with you forever


Im celebrating 30yrs Riding this coming Feb....all due to safe road riding.....NOT the style of ridiing exhibited in these stupid life risking vids

Ride safe KBers:love:


Posted in loving memory of Clinton, Jamie, Reese, Scott, Matt and Charl....never forgotten

[TIBLE_90]

Unfortunately someone's "own" actions affect other peoples lives, like the twat on his yamaha who came around a corner on the wrong side of the road killing a biker coming the other way on the coromandel.

Yea I heard about that from the yamaha racers friend. Endangering others lives like that is just stupid :angry:. If you want to race like that you should take it to the track. Idk what I'd do if I killed a fellow biker like that. I'm all for having fun on the roads, but passing in corners and speeding like a knob is just retarded. I'm not saying you have to go 100, but just don't take chances that could get you or another road user killed. After all one rides to have fun and being dead or killing another human being is not a 'fun' thing.

[Katman]

and to then "try" and explain to his family and twin sister what happened...and how you were partly responcible.


Thanks for sharing that and for your honesty.

I'm always dismayed at how many motorcyclists are all too quick to wash their hands of any responsibility when things turn to shit for one of their ride members - even though they have been completely aware of the competitive nature of that ride that has led to someone pushing past their own skill level.

I can only assume that they either a) have no conscience or b) don't like what their conscience is telling them.

[PrincessBandit]

I'm always dismayed at how many motorcyclists are all too quick to wash their hands of any responsibility when things turn to shit for one of their ride members - even though they have been completely aware of the competitive nature of that ride that has led to someone pushing past their own skill level.

I can only assume that they either a) have no conscience or b) don't like what their conscience is telling them.

Or they have some kind of twisted romanticised view of the consequences of irresponsible actions on the road.

[swbarnett]

...and how you were partly responcible.
Their coicees were theirs, not yours. You are not responsible (even partly) for the fact that they did not have the sense or the courage to say no.

[swbarnett]

I'm always dismayed at how many motorcyclists are all too quick to wash their hands of any responsibility when things turn to shit for one of their ride members - even though they have been completely aware of the competitive nature of that ride that has led to someone pushing past their own skill level.
I don't deny that their may be something a rider can do that will have a causal relationship to a fellow rider living or dying. Slowing down when you know a less skilled rider is trying to keep up, for example, is just common sense. However, should you not act (i.e. slow down in the example above) and the worst happens the only one responsible is the rider that pushed themselves too far.

[Katman]

However, should you not act (i.e. slow down in the example above) and the worst happens the only one responsible is the rider that pushed themselves too far.

Spoken like a true proponent of "Hey, nothing to do with me man".

[Crasherfromwayback]

. Slowing down when you know a less skilled rider is trying to keep up, for example, is just common sense. However, should you not act (i.e. slow down in the example above) and the worst happens the only one responsible is the rider that pushed themselves too far.

Can't agree sorry. If it's common sense to slow up if you know this is happening (and I agree it absolutely is), why should you, the obviously more skilled and experienced rider not do your bit to save the lesser rider from possible injury/death?

[swbarnett]

Spoken like a true proponent of "Hey, nothing to do with me man".


Can't agree sorry. If it's common sense to slow up if you know this is happening (and I agree it absolutely is), why should you, the obviously more skilled and experienced rider not do your bit to save the lesser rider from possible injury/death?

I agree that if there is something that you can do to correct an obviously bad situation you should (and I would). No problem there.

And, yes, if I found myself in this situation I would feel terrible and want to do anything to turn back the clock so I could prevent it.

However, this does not mean that somehow I am responsible for the arrogance and brovado of anyone I happen to be riding with.

To draw an analagy: I never learned to swim. Does that mean I am partly responsbile for a drowning because I was unable to dive in and save them? They got themselves in to trouble, I didn't throw them in the water. Conversly if I was dumb enough to jump in the deep end bacause my peers were taunting me for being a woose I only have myself to blame.

Noone is ultimately responsible for your decisions but yourself.

A judge recently proposed that friends of drunk drivers who failed to prevent them from driving be held legally culpable for any subsequent accident. Is this the sort of thing you're proposing?

[Katman]

To draw an analagy: I never learned to swim. Does that mean I am partly responsbile for a drowning because I was unable to dive in and save them? They got themselves in to trouble, I didn't throw them in the water. Conversly if I was dumb enough to jump in the deep end bacause my peers were taunting me for being a woose I only have myself to blame.



Sorry, but that's not a very good analogy.

If you can't swim there's not much that anyone could reasonably expect of you to resolve the problem.

Withdrawing yourself from a situation that is clearly descending into a "I'm faster than you" scenario is very much within your ability though.

[scumdog]

I agree that if there is something that you can do to correct an obviously bad situation you should (and I would). No problem there.

And, yes, if I found myself in this situation I would feel terrible and want to do anything to turn back the clock so I could prevent it.

However, this does not mean that somehow I am responsible for the arrogance and brovado of anyone I happen to be riding with.

To draw an analagy: I never learned to swim. Does that mean I am partly responsbile for a drowning because I was unable to dive in and save them? They got themselves in to trouble, I didn't throw them in the water. Conversly if I was dumb enough to jump in the deep end bacause my peers were taunting me for being a woose I only have myself to blame.

Noone is ultimately responsible for your decisions but yourself.

A judge recently proposed that friends of drunk drivers who failed to prevent them from driving be held legally culpable for any subsequent accident. Is this the sort of thing you're proposing?

Ya heard of mentoring???

[Reckless]

Can't agree sorry. If it's common sense to slow up if you know this is happening (and I agree it absolutely is), why should you, the obviously more skilled and experienced rider not do your bit to save the lesser rider from possible injury/death?

Agree 100%
Never more sensible words typed on KB!

Often do this specially if I guess that from the style or bravado of the other rider/s they will override.
They are not hard to spot as a general rule.
Like to ride with people not wait for them these days :)

PS an I got safety strips these days :)

[rossirep]

Because most pussies that ride like that are just that on a track. Not that you'd know.

wouldnt it be, if your fast on the road, you would also be fast on the track..?? i dont understand how you think fast road riders would be slow track riders..?? i would class myself as a ok road rider, and only been on the track a couple of times but im sure im not slow or a pussy when im on the track.. so how do you seem to know so much..??

[Crasherfromwayback]

wouldnt it be, if your fast on the road, you would also be fast on the track..?? i dont understand how you think fast road riders would be slow track riders..?? i would class myself as a ok road rider, and only been on the track a couple of times but im sure im not slow or a pussy when im on the track.. so how do you seem to know so much..??

Most people that ride like cockheads on the road get from A to B faster simply because they take stupid fucking risks that any decent racer or ex racer with half a brain would never take. You know...passing on blind corners. Carving cars up and leaving everything too late. Taking wrong lines because they've got into the corner way too hot and aren't good enough to make it work.

Take them to a race track...where there are no limits other than your skill and nut sack size...and the very same 'street racers' all of a sudden ride like faggots. Because they're not actually good riders at all. Just fuckwits. What you may call "not slow or a pussy" on a racetrack is to certain people just that.

How do I know so much? Easy. I've luckily been around long enough to see first hand hundreds of examples of riders and racers both good and bad.

[scumdog]

Most people that ride like cockheads on the road get from A to B faster simply because they take stupid fucking risks that any decent racer or ex racer with half a brain would never take. You know...passing on blind corners. Carving cars up and leaving everything too late. Taking wrong lines because they've got into the corner way too hot and aren't good enough to make it work.

Take them to a race track...where there are no limits other than your skill and nut sack size...and the very same 'street racers' all of a sudden ride like faggots. Because they're not actually good riders at all. Just fuckwits. What you may call "not slow or a pussy" on a racetrack is to certain people just that.

How do I know so much? Easy. I've luckily been around long enough to see first hand hundreds of examples of riders and racers both good and bad.

Can't give more rep - so...Get into them Pete!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Can't give more rep - so...Get into them Pete!

Hahaha...me neither! But thanks, I'm having a great old time.

[sharp2183]

Most people that ride like cockheads on the road get from A to B faster simply because they take stupid fucking risks that any decent racer or ex racer with half a brain would never take. You know...passing on blind corners. Carving cars up and leaving everything too late. Taking wrong lines because they've got into the corner way too hot and aren't good enough to make it work.

Take them to a race track...where there are no limits other than your skill and nut sack size...and the very same 'street racers' all of a sudden ride like faggots. Because they're not actually good riders at all. Just fuckwits. What you may call "not slow or a pussy" on a racetrack is to certain people just that.

How do I know so much? Easy. I've luckily been around long enough to see first hand hundreds of examples of riders and racers both good and bad.

So true! I'm a 'slow' track rider and I've set up next to first timers who are fast on the road who enter in the fast group. By the end of the day they are in my group or lower. Pays to be humble in that kind of scenario I'd say!

[carver]

I was thinking about how bikers who race on roads are somewhat responsible for creating a bad image of bikers, and stumbled across this video..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOGJqYhcD2w&feature=related

These guys are insane:shit::shutup:...So I was just wondering how many people, if any, had come across anything like this here in New Zealand. I have seen a a few guys going somewhat speedy up and down 16, but nothing like this. I suppose they don't have tracks in Greece... :facepalm:

fuck yeah, i love it, just nailed a coro loop..blasted about 30+ cars today alone!

[swbarnett]

Withdrawing yourself from a situation that is clearly descending into a "I'm faster than you" scenario is very much within your ability though.
Couldn't agree more. This is not the point of contention. All I'm getting at is that although I may be able to influence another's decision I can't be held responsible for their decision.

I suppose it comes down to the idea of provocation. If someone is provoked toward a certain act (following a faster rider could, at a stretch, be considered to be provocation - certainly racing can) then the provoker certainly has not acted reasonably. However, the provokee is still wholly responsible for their decisions. Albeit tempered by the fact that we are human and not everyone has the strength to go against their peers (I've been an outsider all my life so I guess I find this easier than most).


Ya heard of mentoring???
That's a different situation all together. A mentor has accepted some of the responsibility ahead of time. What we're talking about (or at least I am) is a group of bikers that just happen to be riding together.

[scumdog]

fuck yeah, i love it, just nailed a coro loop..blasted about 30+ cars today alone!

Only 30+?
Slipping a bit aren't you? - getting old?

[jellywrestler]

Only 30+?
Slipping a bit aren't you? - getting old?
was probably more but he's from Hamilton so I'm surprised he can even count to thirty really

[Pussy]

was probably more but he's from Hamilton so I'm surprised he can even count to thirty really

If you count all of Carver's toes and fingers, it comes to thirty.....

[Crasherfromwayback]

.blasted about 30+ cars today alone!

Were they all waiting at the red traffic light?

[scumdog]

Were they all waiting at the red traffic light?

Nah - they were going in the opposite direction!:rofl::shutup:

[jonbuoy]

Is it just a coincidence that the tough guy weekend warriors are happy to ride like lunatics on the road but the pro/semipro/amateur racers all support taking it to the track? Just because your prepared to take a bigger risk than the guy behind you doesn´t mean your a faster/better rider.

[willytheekid]

Thanks for sharing that and for your honesty.

I'm always dismayed at how many motorcyclists are all too quick to wash their hands of any responsibility when things turn to shit for one of their ride members - even though they have been completely aware of the competitive nature of that ride that has led to someone pushing past their own skill level.

I can only assume that they either a) have no conscience or b) don't like what their conscience is telling them.


Their coicees were theirs, not yours. You are not responsible (even partly) for the fact that they did not have the sense or the courage to say no.


"Their coicees were theirs, not yours. You are not responsible (even partly) for the fact that they did not have the sense or the courage to say no"

Actually it was my fault swbarnett.

I have added Katmans post because he is right on the money, you are correct of course in saying my friend could have said no....we specialized at saying no to challenges at 16 yrs of age :no:

I was the most experienced rider out of our group, my friends only had a year or two riding experience, I had been riding and racing since I was 8.....so I was the one to beat in our group...and the one with the competitive nature!

The responsibility WAS mine....to control the ride...the speed of the group...and myself!

I failed in these things, and my best friend died as a direct consequence.
I talked him into going for a ride....and I, the most experienced of the group, had picked the road...the speed...and was right up his bikes arse pushing him....right up to the moment that he lost control.

So the responsibility to stand in front of his family and explain what happened and to try and apologize...was mine and mine alone.

I shared my experience in the hope that just ONE of the younger riders on here reads it, and sees the real price you can pay for "fun"....is just not worth it...this IS the result & cost of illegal road racing!

[swbarnett]

I shared my experience in the hope that just ONE of the younger riders on here reads it, and sees the real price you can pay for "fun"....is just not worth it...this IS the result & cost of illegal road racing!
Thank you for doing so. I imagine it can't be easy.

Your original post read somewhat differently to me. Given what you've just said it does sound to me like you were in the position of a mentor to a certain extent.

[rossirep]

Most people that ride like cockheads on the road get from A to B faster simply because they take stupid fucking risks that any decent racer or ex racer with half a brain would never take. You know...passing on blind corners. Carving cars up and leaving everything too late. Taking wrong lines because they've got into the corner way too hot and aren't good enough to make it work.

Take them to a race track...where there are no limits other than your skill and nut sack size...and the very same 'street racers' all of a sudden ride like faggots. Because they're not actually good riders at all. Just fuckwits. What you may call "not slow or a pussy" on a racetrack is to certain people just that.

How do I know so much? Easy. I've luckily been around long enough to see first hand hundreds of examples of riders and racers both good and bad.

at the end of the day thou a track only has a certain number of corners, so.. if you end up going around it enough you will get faster its not rocket sicence.. it doesnt make you a bike god cause your fast on a track, or think your fast on a track,
iv ridin with fast track racers here in chch and have done for years, id love to have the coin to have a race bike that i could thrash out the track and not care if i bin it and have some one teach me how to ride cause im crap at it, lol, , but sadly i dont so il have to keep riding on the road for now, till i win lottoo anyway

[Crasherfromwayback]

at the end of the day thou a track only has a certain number of corners, so.. if you end up going around it enough you will get faster its not rocket sicence.. it doesnt make you a bike god cause your fast on a track, or think your fast on a track,


Yeah even though what I've said ain't rocket science, I can see you're struggling with it.

And I can't for the life of me recall saying being fast on a race track makes you a 'bike god'.

What I did say, was most racers and ex racers know better than to ride like a total fuckhead on public roads/streets.

[rossirep]

Yeah even though what I've said ain't rocket science, I can see you're struggling with it.

And I can't for the life of me recall saying being fast on a race track makes you a 'bike god'.

What I did say, was most racers and ex racers know better than to ride like a total fuckhead on public roads/streets.

nah im not having a problem with it at all, i hear what your saying and your talking like your a bike god who knows all, chaces are your not that fast on the track as it is, and if you were a racer, chaces are you race a shitty lil bucket or some crap old bike that doesnt go that fast anyway.. lol, does that sound like im getting it..??

[Crasherfromwayback]

, i hear what your saying and your talking like your a bike god who knows all, chaces are your not that fast on the track as it is, and if you were a racer, chaces are you race a shitty lil bucket or some crap old bike that doesnt go that fast anyway.. lol, does that sound like im getting it..??

Fucking hell. You're obviously way smarter than I thought. You're 100% correct about me and my ability, as well as the various bikes I've raced.

[Kickaha]

nah im not having a problem with it at all, i hear what your saying and your talking like your a bike god who knows all, chaces are your not that fast on the track as it is, and if you were a racer, chaces are you race a shitty lil bucket or some crap old bike that doesnt go that fast anyway.. lol, does that sound like im getting it..??

He'd piss all over you at the track without even raising a sweat and probably while riding a bike 1/2 the size of yours

Probably even while riding a bucket

[rossirep]

He'd piss all over you at the track without even raising a sweat and probably while riding a bike 1/2 the size of yours

Probably even while riding a bucket

well i never said i was a racer did i..? nope i said i was a ok road rider.. never once did i say i was a racer..

but if i had a race bike id be happy to give it a go and maybe some of you amazing rider/racers could show me how its done..

[scumdog]

but if i had a race bike id be happy to give it a go and maybe some of you amazing rider/racers could show me how its done..
Sure they will - how can they not seeing as how you've paved the way so smoothly with them...<_<:rolleyes:

[scumdog]

nah im not having a problem with it at all, i hear what your saying and your talking like your a bike god who knows all, chaces are your not that fast on the track as it is, and if you were a racer, chaces are you race a shitty lil bucket or some crap old bike that doesnt go that fast anyway.. lol, does that sound like im getting it..??
Hitcher!!!!:facepalm:

[Maha]

The word somewhat is misrepresented in this sentence..

''bikers who race on roads are somewhat responsible''

[Drew]

at the end of the day thou a track only has a certain number of corners, so.. if you end up going around it enough you will get faster its not rocket sicence.. it doesnt make you a bike god cause your fast on a track, or think your fast on a track,
iv ridin with fast track racers here in chch and have done for years, id love to have the coin to have a race bike that i could thrash out the track and not care if i bin it and have some one teach me how to ride cause im crap at it, lol, , but sadly i dont so il have to keep riding on the road for now, till i win lottoo anywayYou haven't been riding long have you? I ask because you are clearly a person who cannot FEEL what their bike is doing under them. Which is, in essence the ABSOLUTE key to riding a bike fast. No amount of laps will make up for not having the ability.


nah im not having a problem with it at all, i hear what your saying and your talking like your a bike god who knows all, chaces are your not that fast on the track as it is, and if you were a racer, chaces are you race a shitty lil bucket or some crap old bike that doesnt go that fast anyway.. lol, does that sound like im getting it..??

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Thanks for that, I haven't laughed so hard in years.


Crasher might not have the titles that Andrew Stroud does you bell end, but he is one qualified mother fucker none the less. If he gives an opinion on a riders ability or makes a statement (such as he did), that you disagree with, keep your trap shut, you are likely (and definitely in this case) wrong!

[rossirep]

You haven't been riding long have you? I ask because you are clearly a person who cannot FEEL what their bike is doing under them. Which is, in essence the ABSOLUTE key to riding a bike fast. No amount of laps will make up for not having the ability.



BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Thanks for that, I haven't laughed so hard in years.


Crasher might not have the titles that Andrew Stroud does you bell end, but he is one qualified mother fucker none the less. If he gives an opinion on a riders ability or makes a statement (such as he did), that you disagree with, keep your trap shut, you are likely (and definitely in this case) wrong!

iv been riding long enough, and know how to ride my bike, and i dont think i need to keep my trap shut, maybe you should ride your mighty rf900 and gsxr down here and make me ya bell end..!!!lol, that is if you can take ya nose out of crashes arse hole long enough....

[Kickaha]

iv been riding long enough, and know how to ride my bike, and i dont think i need to keep my trap shut, maybe you should ride your mighty rf900 and gsxr down here and make me ya bell end..!!!lol, that is if you can take ya nose out of crashes arse hole long enough....

Ohhh yeah Drew do it, I'll put $50 on you for the win on the RF

[rossirep]

Ohhh yeah Drew do it, I'll put $50 on you for the win on the RF

yeah do it drew, rf900 vs vt250... awesome fun times.. hahahahaha,

[DrunkenMistake]

Fuck you lot talk some dribble.

Wank Wank Wank


Bait Bait Bait



Further Wanking.

It isnt just safer to race on the track, but it allows a rider to further their experience and learning or correct lines and cornering and techniques, No I havnt yet had a chance to ride on a track, but I would sure love to if I wasnt for the fact I own one bike and its my only child,
Riding fast on the road doesnt make you a better rider, it makes you a lunatic and more than likely an ACC statistic,
Let me put it this way, off my head.

Track danger variables:
Rider low slides off the track - Bruised leg, damaged ego, wrecked bike.
Rider Mistakenly takes out another rider via passing - Possibly a broken limb, bruising etc - two wrecked biks.
Rider Runs wide on a corner and hits the turf at 80km, keeps it upright. - Increased heart rate, Shit in pants. - No damage.

Road Danger variables:
Rider low slides on a sweeping left, bike drags rider across center lane into an oncoming car - Possible death/Broken bones, abrasions and sever bruising - Wrecked bike.
Rider mistakenly takes out another rider via passing, following car runs into the wreck - Two seriously hurt riders, if they stay within their own lane, - broken bones or sever bruising depending if they are hit with another variable such as a following car - two wrecked bikes.
Rider runs wide on a corner, - Possible head on collision - Death - wrecked bike.

Someone who decides its safer to ride like a lunatic on the track imo is a better and more responsible rider,
tracks are clean and clear roads are covered in filth, uneven surfaces and debris, blind corners and crazy cage drivers, cant see how any of that can make you a better and safer rider.

[Geeen]

Fuck you lot talk some dribble.







It isnt just safer to race on the track, but it allows a rider to further their experience and learning or correct lines and cornering and techniques, No I havnt yet had a chance to ride on a track, but I would sure love to if I wasnt for the fact I own one bike and its my only child,
Riding fast on the road doesnt make you a better rider, it makes you a lunatic and more than likely an ACC statistic,
Let me put it this way, off my head.

Track danger variables:
Rider low slides off the track - Bruised leg, damaged ego, wrecked bike.
Rider Mistakenly takes out another rider via passing - Possibly a broken limb, bruising etc - two wrecked biks.
Rider Runs wide on a corner and hits the turf at 80km, keeps it upright. - Increased heart rate, Shit in pants. - No damage.

Road Danger variables:
Rider low slides on a sweeping left, bike drags rider across center lane into an oncoming car - Possible death/Broken bones, abrasions and sever bruising - Wrecked bike.
Rider mistakenly takes out another rider via passing, following car runs into the wreck - Two seriously hurt riders, if they stay within their own lane, - broken bones or sever bruising depending if they are hit with another variable such as a following car - two wrecked bikes.
Rider runs wide on a corner, - Possible head on collision - Death - wrecked bike.

Someone who decides its safer to ride like a lunatic on the track imo is a better and more responsible rider,
tracks are clean and clear roads are covered in filth, uneven surfaces and debris, blind corners and crazy cage drivers, cant see how any of that can make you a better and safer rider.

Holy Crap!! You just made sense :gob: Good post

[Kickaha]

Track danger variables:
Rider low slides off the track - Bruised leg, damaged ego, wrecked bike.
Rider Mistakenly takes out another rider via passing - Possibly a broken limb, bruising etc - two wrecked biks.
Rider Runs wide on a corner and hits the turf at 80km, keeps it upright. - Increased heart rate, Shit in pants. - No damage.
.

You forgot highsides

[rossirep]

Fuck you lot talk some dribble.







It isnt just safer to race on the track, but it allows a rider to further their experience and learning or correct lines and cornering and techniques, No I havnt yet had a chance to ride on a track, but I would sure love to if I wasnt for the fact I own one bike and its my only child,
Riding fast on the road doesnt make you a better rider, it makes you a lunatic and more than likely an ACC statistic,
Let me put it this way, off my head.

Track danger variables:
Rider low slides off the track - Bruised leg, damaged ego, wrecked bike.
Rider Mistakenly takes out another rider via passing - Possibly a broken limb, bruising etc - two wrecked biks.
Rider Runs wide on a corner and hits the turf at 80km, keeps it upright. - Increased heart rate, Shit in pants. - No damage.

Road Danger variables:
Rider low slides on a sweeping left, bike drags rider across center lane into an oncoming car - Possible death/Broken bones, abrasions and sever bruising - Wrecked bike.
Rider mistakenly takes out another rider via passing, following car runs into the wreck - Two seriously hurt riders, if they stay within their own lane, - broken bones or sever bruising depending if they are hit with another variable such as a following car - two wrecked bikes.
Rider runs wide on a corner, - Possible head on collision - Death - wrecked bike.

Someone who decides its safer to ride like a lunatic on the track imo is a better and more responsible rider,
tracks are clean and clear roads are covered in filth, uneven surfaces and debris, blind corners and crazy cage drivers, cant see how any of that can make you a better and safer rider.

yeah, and the guy on the shit house gt650 knows all about racing be it on the street or track.. hahaha, wat ya douche, sure the track is 100% safer to ride on, but if your worried about the "what mite happens" maybe you should get rid of ya bike and get on the bus..

[Kickaha]

yeah, and the guy on the shit house gt650 knows all about racing be it on the street or track.. hahaha, wat ya douche, sure the track is 100% safer to ride on, but if your worried about the "what mite happens" maybe you should get rid of ya bike and get on the bus..

I'd rather a GT650 than a VT250

It is only 100% safer if you're the only bike on the track and you ride like a nana

[rossirep]

I'd rather a GT650 than a VT250

It is only 100% safer if you're the only bike on the track and you ride like a nana

what ya on about fella.. ? VT's rock.. super fast and handle like a racing bike with the full fairing and disc breaks and stuff..

[Katman]

but if your worried about the "what mite happens" maybe you should get rid of ya bike and get on the bus..

It's not about being "worried what mite happens" but rather being aware of the potential "happens" and leaving enough margin to adequately deal with those "happens" if they "happens".

[Drew]

iv been riding long enough, and know how to ride my bike, and i dont think i need to keep my trap shut, maybe you should ride your mighty rf900 and gsxr down here and make me ya bell end..!!!lol, that is if you can take ya nose out of crashes arse hole long enough....Am I coming down to make you my bell end, or did you mean, 'why don't you come down here and make me, ya bell end'?


Ohhh yeah Drew do it, I'll put $50 on you for the win on the RFMy grammar has never been that flash mate, but I think you took what he wrote the wrong way.


yeah do it drew, rf900 vs vt250... awesome fun times.. hahahahaha,Or maybe I took it the wrong way.

If you would like a lesson or two, you'd do better to ask Crasher down. If ya want a schooling, I know a few guys down there with the bucket race bikes you hold in such high regard, pretty sure I can rustle up the lend of one to lead ya round Ruapuna on when I'm next down there.

What is funny here, is that I was probably the least responsible road rider in the country, until I went racing. So for me to slam the idiots that are out there is very hypocritical.

[Kickaha]

If ya want a schooling, I know a few guys down there with the bucket race bikes you hold in such high regard, pretty sure I can rustle up the lend of one to lead ya round Ruapuna on when I'm next down there.

You need to follow your brothers lead and sort out a Bucket so we can give both of you a kicking at next years BOB

[Ocean1]

My grammar has never been that flash mate,

Mebe not. But this:


hypocritical.

Is pure fucking genius.

[Drew]

You need to follow you brothers lead and sort out a Bucket so we can give both of you a kicking at next years BOB

Pfft, that gay fuck will never lead me mate. I've already got my motor and chassis, just need to assemble really.

[DrunkenMistake]

Holy Crap!! You just made sense :gob: Good post
Haha, Happens once in a while, so you had better bookmark it :P

You forgot highsides
there is a whole list you can make, it was just off the top of my head.

yeah, and the guy on the shit house gt650 knows all about racing be it on the street or track.. hahaha, wat ya douche, sure the track is 100% safer to ride on, but if your worried about the "what mite happens" maybe you should get rid of ya bike and get on the bus..
Really? I actually got the GT650R for alot of reasons, one of them wasnt for track racing, or been a retard like yourself, do you know how much more practical a Vtwin is to me than a 4il or any other high performance sports-bike?, nope you dont, but it doesnt bother me, it seems to be making you feel better.
Long story short, you remind me of those knob jokey Muppets in their souped up honda civics with their baked bean can exhausts, cause 'its cool' and makes you feel big,
I know for a fact im not a great rider, I have been riding for a year, I have had this bike for a month and im learning all over again, I have my NC30 for 6 and I got to the point where I was starting to ride it to its full potential at safe legal speeds, I do speed and I do ride like a lunatic at times, i never said i didnt, but I dont swing my dick around so the centrifugal force pulls out it to make it look bigger than it is.
But I know what makes a good rider, and a large % is rider attitude, your gonna become an ACC statistic, and the way your spouting your shit, I wouldn't be surprised if you dont become a statistic of other sorts, unless this is your 6ft tall online persona.


what ya on about fella.. ? VT's rock.. super fast and handle like a racing bike with the full fairing and disc breaks and stuff..
Race winning Stuff mate.

[Drew]

Mebe not. But this:



Is pure fucking genius.So, after I googled the spelling, I still got it fuckin wrong then!?

[Ocean1]

So, after I googled the spelling, I still got it fuckin wrong then!?

Actually you didn't, I misread it :laugh:

[rossirep]

Haha, Happens once in a while, so you had better bookmark it :P

there is a whole list you can make, it was just off the top of my head.

Really? I actually got the GT650R for alot of reasons, one of them wasnt for track racing, or been a retard like yourself, do you know how much more practical a Vtwin is to me than a 4il or any other high performance sports-bike?, nope you dont, but it doesnt bother me, it seems to be making you feel better.
Long story short, you remind me of those knob jokey Muppets in their souped up honda civics with their baked bean can exhausts, cause 'its cool' and makes you feel big,
I know for a fact im not a great rider, I have been riding for a year, I have had this bike for a month and im learning all over again, I have my NC30 for 6 and I got to the point where I was starting to ride it to its full potential at safe legal speeds, I do speed and I do ride like a lunatic at times, i never said i didnt, but I dont swing my dick around so the centrifugal force pulls out it to make it look bigger than it is.
But I know what makes a good rider, and a large % is rider attitude, your gonna become an ACC statistic, and the way your spouting your shit, I wouldn't be surprised if you dont become a statistic of other sorts, unless this is your 6ft tall online persona.


Race winning Stuff mate.

come on man no need to get all nasty and stuff, my vt is also a vtyn and its wicked.. iv been riding for a lil bit to and i can ride the balls off my bike, i can lean it over and this one time i almost got my knee down but was in shorts and barefeet so didnt wanna go to crazy.. and yeah this is my 6ft online persona cause in person im alot bigger.. and have you seen me in my civic..? its cool aye, bet you wish you had one just like it.. tints and blow off vaulves are where its at, and the bitches just love it..

[DrunkenMistake]

come on man no need to get all nasty and stuff, my vt is also a vtyn and its wicked.. iv been riding for a lil bit to and i can ride the balls off my bike, i can lean it over and this one time i almost got my knee down but was in shorts and barefeet so didnt wanna go to crazy.. and yeah this is my 6ft online persona cause in person im alot bigger.. and have you seen me in my civic..? its cool aye, bet you wish you had one just like it.. tints and blow off vaulves are where its at, and the bitches just love it..

Oh yup,
Out of curiosity, are you a fan of Christmas?

[Drew]

Actually you didn't, I misread it :laugh:Sweet, I thought my short term memory had degraded so far that I lost it between looking at the search window and then back at what I was typing.

[rossirep]

Oh yup,
Out of curiosity, are you a fan of Christmas?


strange you should ask, but no im not, as im a jehovah's witness and dont do xmas or birthdays..

[DrunkenMistake]

strange you should ask, but no im not, as im a jehovah's witness and dont do xmas or birthdays..

Ohh so your one of those unloved orphans,
This actually explains the majority of your posts..

[rossirep]

Ohh so your one of those unloved orphans,
This actually explains the majority of your posts..

glad you understand now.. ;-)

[carver]

riding at a spirited pace on the road is a good rush, a calculated gamble of constant changes and adoptions.
I always enjoy the changing scenery, the different corners, the bumps, traffic, and the challenge i guess.
got to leave a bit of room for error, and use your head quite a bit to get it all right.

[MD]

I'm confused. Is there another way for Gixxers to be ridden?

And while I'm at it, there seems to be a tendency these PC days to label anyone, car or bike, going faster than the rest of the traffic flow to be "racing" Sort like the misuse (abuse more like) of the word 'gay', because a section of society decided to hijack a perfectly harmless word for their own cause.

They were riding faster than they should, they were riding reckless at times. But racing? That implies all out desperation to overtake the other. I didn't see that in the vid.

Edit. Everyone needs to be more gay about this topic

[Grantman_]

The moral of the story is, if you're naughty enough to buy a sportbike for the road, ride it like a harley. Not a sportbike. Yeah...

[gatch]

Everyone loves going for a hoon down their favorite roads, but you just HAVE to leave room for error.

As for that crasher cunt, wtf does he know about racing, I saw a video of him wobbling about on a 250 something or other. And only coming second. To some other slow cunt. Pffft.

[cowboyz]

wouldnt it be, if your fast on the road, you would also be fast on the track..?? i dont understand how you think fast road riders would be slow track riders..?? i would class myself as a ok road rider, and only been on the track a couple of times but im sure im not slow or a pussy when im on the track.. so how do you seem to know so much..??.

I have ridden with quite a few fast road riders on the track and been quite surprised that they fall behind quite quickly.. Others.... I havent been able to get anywhere close to. Track riding and road riding are 2 completely different mentalities - and really. its piss easy to *look* fast on the road. On the track, you got no where to hide.

I took my ZX9r racing and was happy with my results and learnt ALOT about my bike in the 2 seasons I raced it. Even after I had ridden it on the road for more than 100,000km.


Fucking hell. You're obviously way smarter than I thought. You're 100% correct about me and my ability, as well as the various bikes I've raced.

This is pretty much where i started laughing....

well i never said i was a racer did i..? nope i said i was a ok road rider.. never once did i say i was a racer..

but if i had a race bike id be happy to give it a go and maybe some of you amazing rider/racers could show me how its done..

this is where the challenge is laid


iv been riding long enough, and know how to ride my bike, and i dont think i need to keep my trap shut, maybe you should ride your mighty rf900 and gsxr down here and make me ya bell end..!!!lol, that is if you can take ya nose out of crashes arse hole long enough....

this is where I go.... Hey mate.... I WILL LOAN YOU MY ZX9R. It is setup for racing and won the clubmans summer series 2010/11. Very quick bike. So deal goes. Get up here to manfield. Challenge Drew on his RF900 with you on my ZX9R and leave your keyboard at home. If you lose you owe me a grand for hireage. (Ill split the winnings with Drew)


Ohhh yeah Drew do it, I'll put $50 on you for the win on the RF

Side bets welcome.. This will be epic




Oh how we love kiwibiker!

[rossirep]

.

I have ridden with quite a few fast road riders on the track and been quite surprised that they fall behind quite quickly.. Others.... I havent been able to get anywhere close to. Track riding and road riding are 2 completely different mentalities - and really. its piss easy to *look* fast on the road. On the track, you got no where to hide.

I took my ZX9r racing and was happy with my results and learnt ALOT about my bike in the 2 seasons I raced it. Even after I had ridden it on the road for more than 100,000km.



This is pretty much where i started laughing....


this is where the challenge is laid



this is where I go.... Hey mate.... I WILL LOAN YOU MY ZX9R. It is setup for racing and won the clubmans summer series 2010/11. Very quick bike. So deal goes. Get up here to manfield. Challenge Drew on his RF900 with you on my ZX9R and leave your keyboard at home. If you lose you owe me a grand for hireage. (Ill split the winnings with Drew)



Side bets welcome.. This will be epic




Oh how we love kiwibiker!

wow, so i should ride a bike iv never ridin before on a track iv never seen before and put money on it..?? fark me you guys are so farking on to it.. you can keep your heavy old zx9r i wouldn ride one of those heaps if it was free.. hahaha, i never said i was a racer at the end of the day did i? its you fuck tards that keep going on about how awesome you all are, i just like looking at you on here and havin a laugh to myself.. bet your all a bunch of fat old gits anyway so how about you lube up your kwaka and park it in crashes or drews arse.>!!! yeah that rite, i said it.. you heard it here first..!!! hahahaha,

[Crasherfromwayback]

and park it in crashes or drews arse.>!!! yeah that rite, i said it.. you heard it here first..!!! hahahaha,

You seem to have a pretty strong interest in my anus?

[cowboyz]

You seem to have a pretty strong interest in my anus?

well.. you better let him know its already owned then..............

btw.. you told me I looked awesome on the 9 when you sold it to me! I only done 170,000km on it and been thrashing the crap out of it on manfield for the past 2 years and havent spent a cent on the motor but rossi tells me its old and heavy so can I have my money back?

[Drew]

You seem to have a pretty strong interest in my anus?I think the medical fraternity is gonna be pretty interested to take a gander at it, once the ZX9 gets removed too.

[Drew]

btw.. you told me I looked awesome on the 9 when you sold it to me!


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I'm gonna have a hernia with all the laughing this thread is making me do, cut it out!


Sorry mate, but salesmen tend to say made up stuff to get the cheque.

[cowboyz]

I think the medical fraternity is gonna be pretty interested to take a gander at it, once the ZX9 gets removed too.

dont remove it... I need spacious parking where it will be seen often............

[Crasherfromwayback]

btw.. you told me I looked awesome on the 9 when you sold it to me! I only done 170,000km on it and been thrashing the crap out of it on manfield for the past 2 years and havent spent a cent on the motor but rossi tells me its old and heavy so can I have my money back?

You sure that wasn't "It was an awesome 9?"

[Crasherfromwayback]

Sorry mate, but salesmen tend to say made up stuff to get the cheque.

Fuck off mate...I already has his money by then!

[Drew]

Fuck off mate...I already has his money by then!True, ya wouldn't jeopardize you're commission by him picking up on such an obvious untruth.

[Drew]

You sure that wasn't "It was an awesome 9?"That bike had been Maired and Mikeyed mate, you really are a lying cunt!

[cowboyz]

That bike had been Maired and Mikeyed mate, you really are a lying cunt!

and even you couldnt kill it. I figured.. hell. if it still starts and hasnt got cowshit on it... it must be ok.

back on topic in all.. I really quite keen to see rossimuppet Vs Drew.

[Drew]

and even you couldnt kill it. I figured.. hell. if it still starts and hasnt got cowshit on it... it must be ok.

back on topic in all.. I really quite keen to see rossimuppet Vs Drew.

Dunno about that mate, I do so tire of picking motorcycles up off the ground.

[caseye]

riding at a spirited pace on the road is a good rush, a calculated gamble of constant changes and adoptions.
I always enjoy the changing scenery, the different corners, the bumps, traffic, and the challenge i guess.
got to leave a bit of room for error, and use your head quite a bit to get it all right.

JeeZ Carver was that really ewe saying all that??? Actually made me read it through twice just to be sure that you had said it.
Well said that man.

[Owl]

back on topic in all.. I really quite keen to see rossimuppet Vs Drew.

Hell, I'll supply the fuel even!:yes:

Oh and winch and transport for the twisted 9.

[rossirep]

and even you couldnt kill it. I figured.. hell. if it still starts and hasnt got cowshit on it... it must be ok.

back on topic in all.. I really quite keen to see rossimuppet Vs Drew.



hahahah, fuck your a knob buddy.. if i was gonna race anyone id do it on my VT250 and show all you bitches how to ride.. i may even do a wheeliea and a stoppie just to show you how its done.. but you would have to get off the computer to find out, and by the looks of the ammount of posts you girls put on here, i dont see ya getting out side much..

its awesome thou how you all seem to think your fast riders, hahahahaaaaaaaa......................

[scumdog]

.


hahahah, fuck your a knob buddy.. if i was gonna race anyone id do it on my VT250 and show all you bitches how to ride.. i may even do a wheeliea and a stoppie just to show you how its done.. but you would have to get off the computer to find out, and by the looks of the ammount of posts you girls put on here, i dont see ya getting out side much..

its awesome thou how you all seem to think your fast riders, hahahahaaaaaaaa......................

Classic!
250cc bike? - check:yes:
less than 100 posts? - check:yes:
'moped rider' ranking? - check:yes:
inane ranting and chest thumping? - check.:yes:
disparaging comments about others abilities? - check:yes:

A fully fledged black-belt KB newbie....:woohoo:

[rossirep]

Classic!
250cc bike? - check:yes:
less than 100 posts? - check:yes:
'moped rider' ranking? - check:yes:
inane ranting and chest thumping? - check.:yes:
disparaging comments about others abilities? - check:yes:

A fully fledged black-belt KB newbie....:woohoo:

yeah thats right, check out that moped rider ranking bitches no my L plate for me..

and how else am i gonna get massive high post score if i dont get on here and have some fun, cause by the looks of it, the more you talk on here the better rider you become.. and by that thinking scumdog you must be the king pin biker in all of lil ol New Zealand..

[scumdog]

and by that thinking scumdog you must be the king pin biker in all of lil ol New Zealand..

You better believe it sonny...:shifty:

[Drew]

yeah thats right, check out that moped rider ranking bitches no my L plate for me..


SHANE! If this rooster's IPA is in western Australia, it's Mikey! No one else could be so good at being a cunt!

[tigertim20]

nah im not having a problem with it at all, i hear what your saying and your talking like your a bike god who knows all, chaces are your not that fast on the track as it is, and if you were a racer, chaces are you race a shitty lil bucket or some crap old bike that doesnt go that fast anyway.. lol, does that sound like im getting it..??
Oh fuck that is funny, coming from a two-fiddy pilot with what, a year or two experience on bikes?

He'd piss all over you at the track without even raising a sweat and probably while riding a bike 1/2 the size of yours

Probably even while riding a bucket
To be fair, I know people who would outride this cock with one arm tied behind their back
On that note
There is a rider on here that actually HAS only one arm, and Id bet that one armed fella would:
ride faster than rossirep
ride smoother than rossi rep
ride safer than rossi rep
ride smarter than rossi rep
on both street AND track.

You forgot highsides
Carefull, his wee brain can only do so much at a time!! Be gentle!

hahahah, fuck your a knob buddy.. if i was gonna race anyone id do it on my VT250 and show all you bitches how to ride.. i may even do a wheeliea and a stoppie just to show you how its done.. but you would have to get off the computer to find out, and by the looks of the ammount of posts you girls put on here, i dont see ya getting out side much..

its awesome thou how you all seem to think your fast riders, hahahahaaaaaaaa......................

Funnily enough, alot of these guys DO know their shit buddy. theyve been out there, and done the kays, done the tracks, made the mistakes, and learnt their lessons. The reason they have high post counts? well its simple.
Theyve spent alot of time trying to teach and help and guide morons like you who think they know everything, in the hope that said morons will see the errors of their ways, and listen to older, wiser, and more experienced guys, before they kill themselves trying to be a fucking hero on the road.

Oh, and no matter how 'fast' you think your 250 is? - its not.
Give it ten years (if you last that long) and youll leanr what tourque is on big twins, learn what power is on 6hundies or thous, youll learn so much that youll look back at the shit you posted here, and youll be embarassed at yourself.

And youll probably be making the type of posts to others that crasher and kickaha and drew are saying to you

[Biggles08]

wow, so i should ride a bike iv never ridin before on a track iv never seen before and put money on it..?? fark me you guys are so farking on to it.. you can keep your heavy old zx9r i wouldn ride one of those heaps if it was free.. hahaha, i never said i was a racer at the end of the day did i? its you fuck tards that keep going on about how awesome you all are, i just like looking at you on here and havin a laugh to myself.. bet your all a bunch of fat old gits anyway so how about you lube up your kwaka and park it in crashes or drews arse.>!!! yeah that rite, i said it.. you heard it here first..!!! hahahaha,

Oi!!!!!! behave yourself!!!! The ZX9R is a awesome machine!!!!:angry:

[francohara]

its all about fulfilling your needs.... if you can fulfill your need by riding on the road at 8/10ths.... then great.... no boody gets hurt.
when i say 8/10ths i dont mean taking a 70kmph rated corner at 80/90.... lets be real.... 8/10ths could be 120.
Its when you start riding at 9/10ths on the road that things get tricky..... you leave no room for the unexpected. If your comfortable with that and arent even remotly bothered with the consequences of killing an innocent person.......then thats when you should leave the 9/10ths and 10/10ths for the track...

It scares me when a work collegue (fresh on a 600cc from 250cc) mentions getting the knee down on the corro loop..... stones, gravel, dirt, cyclist, pedestrian, campervan, oil, pukeko.

in the end if you live by the sword you got to accept the possibility of dying by the sword.......but dont take someone else with you.

[tigertim20]

Theres a problem with that theory francohara

People like rossi rep have an over inflated opinion of themselves where their ability is concerned.
They THINK they're at 6/10ths of their ability, but theyre really at 11/10ths.

[DrunkenMistake]

It scares me when a work collegue (fresh on a 600cc from 250cc) mentions getting the knee down on the corro loop..... stones, gravel, dirt, cyclist, pedestrian, campervan, oil, pukeko.


Iv had a gradual increase of capacity over the last year and a half,
and I was starting to ride my last bike an 3/4 of its potential maybe a little less, TT will have his say im sure, I cant judge my own riding, as I cant see my own flaws,
But I have had the 650 for a month now, and I have had a few cases where I have forgotten and over cooked or undercut a corner, without incident thank goodness,
The road I live down im lucky to have, its a nice twisty road, occasionally had crap on it, and has its own list of hazards, I think without riding it daily, my riding ability would be nowhere near where it is now, and my alertness and responsibility on a bike would certainly be suffering.


Let Rossi rep have his fun,
after a few bins and a wheel chair later, his attitude will change

[PrincessBandit]

Let Rossi rep have his fun,
after a few bins and a wheel chair later, his attitude will change

As long as he's the only one in his wheel chair and another family is not having to bury their loved ones as a result of his actions.
Another member said further up "if you live by the sword..." well, when the cost of your own miscalculations is borne by you alone that's one thing; when others pay the price for your ego tripping then that's another.
Riders who set out to do the Coro GP in the quickest possible time or use it to "enhance" or develop their racing skills are dicks.

[Biggles08]

Riders who set out to do the Coro GP in the quickest possible time or use it to "enhance" or develop their racing skills are dicks.

Brilliant...well said.:yes:

[Katman]

well, when the cost of your own miscalculations is borne by you alone that's one thing; when others pay the price for your ego tripping then that's another.


And unfortunately, even when it appears that no-one else has suffered through the actions of that ego's miscalculation, we all, in fact, are made to pay for the outcome.

[Brett]

Can you guys not see that rossirep (Mikey?) is a troll.

[onearmedbandit]

Can you guys not see that rossirep (Mikey?) is a troll.

It seems that they can't. Although it's not Mikey.

[Katman]

Why is this thread suddenly all about rossirep?

[onearmedbandit]

Why is this thread suddenly all about rossirep?

It wasn't. However he cast his line and all the fishys started biting.

[Drew]

Why is this thread suddenly all about rossirep?


It wasn't. However he cast his line and all the fishys started biting.
I thought he was funny so I green blinged him and told him it keep it up.

He seems to have grown tired of this one.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Pity. Think we were all enjoying it!

[Banditbandit]

Why is this thread suddenly all about rossirep?

What? Jealous it is not about you ??? Must be the first time in such a thread the attack has not been on you ...

(How are those demerit points going?)

[Katman]

Must be the first time in such a thread the attack has not been on you ...



The times they are a-changing.

[Banditbandit]

The times they are a-changing.

Seems so .. maybe your messages are finally having an effect ..

[rossirep]

Oh fuck that is funny, coming from a two-fiddy pilot with what, a year or two experience on bikes?

To be fair, I know people who would outride this cock with one arm tied behind their back
On that note
There is a rider on here that actually HAS only one arm, and Id bet that one armed fella would:
ride faster than rossirep
ride smoother than rossi rep
ride safer than rossi rep
ride smarter than rossi rep
on both street AND track.

Carefull, his wee brain can only do so much at a time!! Be gentle!


Funnily enough, alot of these guys DO know their shit buddy. theyve been out there, and done the kays, done the tracks, made the mistakes, and learnt their lessons. The reason they have high post counts? well its simple.
Theyve spent alot of time trying to teach and help and guide morons like you who think they know everything, in the hope that said morons will see the errors of their ways, and listen to older, wiser, and more experienced guys, before they kill themselves trying to be a fucking hero on the road.

Oh, and no matter how 'fast' you think your 250 is? - its not.
Give it ten years (if you last that long) and youll leanr what tourque is on big twins, learn what power is on 6hundies or thous, youll learn so much that youll look back at the shit you posted here, and youll be embarassed at yourself.

And youll probably be making the type of posts to others that crasher and kickaha and drew are saying to you

ok thanks for all the advise buddy, i hope one day i can learn to ride as good as you must do on your mighty yamaha r1,

and why would someone want to ride with just 1 arm..?? thats just crazy talk, i aint even seen such a guy, and im sure he aint that fast, i bet he rides a lil bike anyway, .. wouldnt be anything with power cause how could he hold on..???? i think your the one talkin shit, and i bet my 250 with blast your r1 round the hills, we all know 250's have better corner speed at the end of the day..

[rossirep]

Theres a problem with that theory francohara

People like rossi rep have an over inflated opinion of themselves where their ability is concerned.
They THINK they're at 6/10ths of their ability, but theyre really at 11/10ths.

its not over inflated buddy, yo momma was loving it last night while i was taking her for a blast.. lol,

but maybe you should ride to chch and show me how to ride on ya over powered r1.. who knows, maybe il surprise ya and show you a thing or 2..

[slofox]

and why would someone want to ride with just 1 arm..?? thats just crazy talk, i aint even seen such a guy, and im sure he aint that fast, i bet he rides a lil bike anyway, .. wouldnt be anything with power cause how could he hold on..????

Quite true. Just go look up onearmedbandit. Where do you think the nick came from?

[rossirep]

Can you guys not see that rossirep (Mikey?) is a troll.

im no troll mother fucker.. im way better looking,

[Crasherfromwayback]

im no troll mother fucker..

Bet your mum is.

[rossirep]

It wasn't. However he cast his line and all the fishys started biting.

hey come on buddy, im not fishing, i didnt even pull my rod out and i started getting bites.. ;-( its soooo not fair i just want them to play nice, but they keep pickin on me,

its like they dont like my racing vt250 knee down stories and think just cause im new to riding i dont know anything..

imagine if i wasnt new to this biker game and was just fucking with all of them on here for shits and giggles.. lol,

i wish some one could show me how to ride.., oab do you think you could teach me since your in chch and people have alot of respect for you on this site..??

[PrincessBandit]

hey come on buddy, im not fishing, i didnt even pull my rod out and i started getting bites.. ;-( its soooo not fair i just want them to play nice, but they keep pickin on me,

its like they dont like my racing vt250 knee down stories and think just cause im new to riding i dont know anything..

imagine if i wasnt new to this biker game and was just fucking with all of them on here for shits and giggles.. lol,

i wish some one could show me how to ride.., oab do you think you could teach me since your in chch and people have alot of respect for you on this site..??

Go watch more videos. The MFSC could probably show you a thing or two which might tweak your nipples.

[rossirep]

Go watch more videos. The MFSC could probably show you a thing or two which might tweak your nipples.

yeah iv watched lots of videos, but it hasnt helped me to much,

but and my nipples dont need tweaking, thanks for the offer thou, ;-)

[DR650gary]

my nipples dont need tweaking, thanks for the offer thou, ;-)

Come on, everyone needs more nipple tweaking :yes:

[tigertim20]

its not over inflated buddy, yo momma was loving it last night while i was taking her for a blast.. lol,


lol.
thats the best troll fail you could conjure?:facepalm:

[sinned]

KB entertainment over. About time a mod put everything from post 8 into pointless drivel?

[DrunkenMistake]

KB entertainment over. About time a mod put everything from post 8 into pointless drivel?

Please dont try to take this thread off topic..





Bahaha

[Kermit250]

:clap: Uh, a name like "RossiRep"? Seriously are you guys actually that gullible?

Absolute crackup this thread is!

[rossirep]

:clap: Uh, a name like "RossiRep"? Seriously are you guys actually that gullible?
oh here we go again
Absolute crackup this thread is!

a name like kermit ??? and your gonna hassle rossirep..?? come on fella, its all fun and games till someone looses a eye.. lol,

[Kermit250]

My name is a piss take, I was meaning that it appears yours is too. wouldn't surprise me if you use that account to wind people up. I think it's hilarious

[ants67]

for a country that has piss all money there roads seem to be in better shape then some of our goat tracks