What credit cards are for...

[slofox]

So, new tyres plus 36k service. Plus some diagnostics on a "sticky throttle" problem.

Sticky throttle? Problem well documented on later model gixxers - just go look at the gixxer forums that abound on the interdweeb. Essentially, when a constant throttle setting is held, the engine seems to "bog" down - power drops off and it kinda farts and pops a bit. Gentle squeeze of the throttle does little to fix it. Cracking it open hard fixes it with a sudden blast of power. Which might be embarrassing in the wrong circumstances. This problem has appeared in my bike at odd intervals. You get months without a hint of it and then suddenly it's back again.

So I got that looked at. Seems the O2 sensor is the problem. At constant revs this device does its bizzo of leaning out the mixture to save emissions. And it leans it out to a point where the engine don't run proper no more. So the advice (from Suzuki NZ) is to disconnect the O2 sensor. Which brings its own new problems with it. Like the engine not running at all. But it can be fixed and has been in my case.

So I picked the bike up today. And got the bill. Which was, shall we say, ermmmm...a little higher than I had hoped for. My tyre fund was less than full anyway but instead of covering "most" of the bill, it covered less than half the bill. Ahem. Problem right there. :(

Which is where the credit card comes in. The shop is paid and I get me bike back. All I have to do now is rob the nearest bank to pay off the visa bill. :ar15:

Still, I wonder why SNZ or indeed Suzuki world wide have done nothing about a well recognised problem that is not really the fault of any owner. Seems like a design flaw to me. Maybe they oughta fix it, dammit. And not at my friggin' cost neiver.

Still, the scenic route home on the new tyres was worth the hassle...nothin' like new hoops! :sunny:

[5150]

Still, I wonder why SNZ or indeed Suzuki world wide have done nothing about a well recognised problem that is not really the fault of any owner. Seems like a design flaw to me. Maybe they oughta fix it, dammit. And not at my friggin' cost neiver.

Still, the scenic route home on the new tyres was worth the hassle...nothin' like new hoops! :sunny:

That and the dodgy frame on 05-08 GIXeR Thou. :(

[steve_t]

Did they have to fit a PCV or Bazazz or similar and then tune it to fix it? :(

[slofox]

Did they have to fit a PCV or Bazazz or similar and then tune it to fix it? :(

Errrmmmm...I have no knowledge of such terminologies as PCV and Bazazz, but the answer is no anyway.

They did stick a diode in there somewhere.

[steve_t]

Errrmmmm...I have no knowledge of such terminologies as PCV and Bazazz, but the answer is no anyway.

They did stick a diode in there somewhere.

Oh yup. PCV is a Power Commander V. It's basically an aftermarket piggyback unit so you can play with the bike's tuning. I thought it might explain the cost

[SVboy]

Oh yup. PCV is a Power Commander V. It's basically an aftermarket piggyback unit so you can play with the bike's tuning. I thought it might explain the cost

Sadly not the solution. Many forum threads dedicated to this, but no clear answer. Shame. I too think Suzuki shoul create a fix and do a recall.

[slofox]

Sadly not the solution. Many forum threads dedicated to this, but no clear answer. Shame. I too think Suzuki shoul create a fix and do a recall.

Yep - many threads about this. Several of which support the disconnection of the O2 sensor. I doubt any map work would fix it - the sensor dictates to the ECU. Like all dictators, it needs to be shot. Which is what we have done. ht. ht. ht. :2guns::ar15::ar15::ar15::devil2:

[steve_t]

Sadly not the solution. Many forum threads dedicated to this, but no clear answer. Shame. I too think Suzuki shoul create a fix and do a recall.

Bugger. Some Kawi ZX6R's have a surging issue if holding at 9k RPM and there's also no answer for it either. Kawi have recommended some owners get a PCV :facepalm: Some seem to have success with it, others not. Crazy how the cause can't be identified!

[Renegade]

is this a gixxer only issue or is it across the suzuki range, i.e the 1250 bandits or the boulivards?

[Tunahunter]

is this a gixxer only issue or is it across the suzuki range, i.e the 1250 bandits or the boulivards?

Something like that happens with my bike, I find it hard to hold a constant speed, especially on a slight downhill run - gets a bit jumpy, and me trying to correct it makes things a bit more jumpy.

[blackdog]

Please talk to my wife and explain. Maybe between us we can convince that credit cards (as you have so correctly pointed out) are not for shoes and handbags.

[skinman]

Have not heard of that problem with the boulevards but then its a whole different kind of engine

[mulletman]

They did stick a diode in there somewhere.[/QUOTE]

Diode may be there to fool ecu into thinking O2 sensor is still actve and to make sure there isnt a FI fault on dash? Did they fit another TPS?

[ducatilover]

Why not run a wideband O2 sensor and PCM?

I have some sweet hammers here Slofox, or a nice bike with them Carby thingyma-jugs, those buckets what mix petrol and airs. No oh-too sensors on that slapper. :tugger:

[Kendog]

I had this problem on my k7, damn painful.
Suzuki NZ didn't want to know about it.

I mostly fixed it by adjusting the TPS myself, based on other riders detailed instructions on a Suzuki forum.

[slofox]

is this a gixxer only issue or is it across the suzuki range, i.e the 1250 bandits or the boulivards?

Gixxer only to the best of my knowledge.


They did stick a diode in there somewhere.

[/QUOTE]Diode may be there to fool ecu into thinking O2 sensor is still actve and to make sure there isnt a FI fault on dash? Did they fit another TPS?[/QUOTE]

Perzackerly. The ECU refused to do anything with the sensor disconnected. The diode makes it think the connection is still there.

[Katman]

Suzuki NZ didn't want to know about it.


That's Suzuki NZ for you.

[Renegade]

for some one who considering a suzuki as his next bike this thread does nothing for me, oh well

[Brett]

for some one who considering a suzuki as his next bike this thread does nothing for me, oh well

Yep, one of the reasons I am not looking at the new Gixxer 1000's. Honda CBR1000 or current R1 is pretty much my Jappa shortlist. My last gixxer was faultless, but then, being a K5 600 it was one of the last models to come out that didn't seem to have any issues.

[slofox]

Yep, one of the reasons I am not looking at the new Gixxer 1000's. Honda CBR1000 or current R1 is pretty much my Jappa shortlist. My last gixxer was faultless, but then, being a K5 600 it was one of the last models to come out that didn't seem to have any issues.

In defence of my own gixxer six (2008), the issue with the sensor is not that big a deal - it's simple enough to clear with a wee flick of the wrist. Add to that the fact that for months at a time it doesn't happen at all and you have a minor issue only. And apart from this issue, I have had absolutely no problems with this bike ever. (apart from it eating tyres of course...and guzzling fuel...:angry:)

That said, it IS a known issue and SHOULD be fixed.

[Brett]

In defence of my own gixxer six (2008), the issue with the sensor is not that big a deal - it's simple enough to clear with a wee flick of the wrist. Add to that the fact that for months at a time it doesn't happen at all and you have a minor issue only. And apart from this issue, I have had absolutely no problems with this bike ever. (apart from it eating tyres of course...and guzzling fuel...:angry:)

That said, it IS a known issue and SHOULD be fixed.

Suzuki would maintain a lot of goodwill if they decided to act like that. Like I said, personally I couldn't have been more stoked with my gixxer. Only moved on 'cause I wanted something newer and bigger (hence new R1 to come).