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SMOKEU
3rd November 2011, 22:07
I've recently passed my 6F license and I'm thinking about buying my first big bike. I have a budget of $5,000. I still can't decide if I want a CBR900RR/CBR919RR or an SV1000S. I haven't ridden either bike, but I like the look of the CBR and the fact that I've had such a good run out of my CBR250. I also like the full fairings and the straight 4 engine.

The SV1000S that would fit into my price bracket would be around a 2003-2004 model, which is fuel injected, and since it has half the number of cylinders as the CBR I figure there are fewer things to go wrong with it and tune ups and repairs should be cheaper on the twin. The SV will also be more modern than the CBR900/919RR which would be mid-late 1990's.

I want something that is easy to handle, easy to throw into a corner (for a big bike), something with safe, predictable handling and also something that is reliable as it will be my only vehicle and I can't afford to spend huge money on repairs. I don't mind an aggressive, lean over the tank riding position either. Are fully faired bikes more comfortable on the open road, and are they better when riding in cold or bad weather conditions?

ynot slow
3rd November 2011, 22:37
I looked at a 04 CBR954RR,was nice to ride,comfy and grunty,then took the gixxer for run,and was interested in the SV1000S when on Suzuki fest pricing back in 07,(but none were available to ride then),I took an SV for a test ride when pretty much bought the gixxer to fix my curiosity,wasn't overly fussed with it,compared to my enthusiasm to buy when new models were at good price,out of the CBR/SV it would've been the honda,for all my thinking the SV was for me,it did nothing to excite me,mind you had made my mind on the gixxer at the time so maybe that clouded my thinking.

ducatilover
3rd November 2011, 23:35
I'd say the 900RR is the better bike.
Thought about Gixxer750s?
Late 90's ZX6R, early R6? Good step up from a 250 and they all handle a treat. All have over 100hp.

Sable
4th November 2011, 06:22
SV1000 is a much newer bike.

Usarka
4th November 2011, 06:34
You need to test ride. Especially the SV and maybe one of the CBR's.

Twins feel a lot different to inline 4's and a test ride might be enough to cement the decision for you one way or the other.

slofox
4th November 2011, 07:00
The suspension on the SV's is far from "state of the art"...but you do need to ride both.

imdying
4th November 2011, 07:06
The blade. The SV is a shit heap. If you're not going out of town much then consider a 600, they're fun++;

SilentDtH
4th November 2011, 08:36
You said faired, but don't discount the hornet cb900. You can get older ones for about 5000 but look for 2005+ for adjustable front suspension. Fuel injected too.

imdying
4th November 2011, 09:08
Ignore him, naked bikes are for faggots :buggerd:

blackdog
4th November 2011, 09:11
Doesn't matter which one you choose, you'll have it impounded within a week.

Welcome back Smokey.

SMOKEU
4th November 2011, 09:40
Doesn't matter which one you choose, you'll have it impounded within a week.

Welcome back Smokey.

Haha yeah you're right, cheers!

Kermit250
4th November 2011, 11:09
Why the fuss over fuel injection? For reliability (read: more simple) and cheaper repair/tuning costs look to carbs.

SMOKEU
4th November 2011, 11:45
Why the fuss over fuel injection? For reliability (read: more simple) and cheaper repair/tuning costs look to carbs.

I've never owned an EFI bike but I've heard
that carburettor maintenance like balancing and cleaning them can be expensive. Especially when there's 4 of them. In saying that my CBR250 has been very reliable.

bsasuper
4th November 2011, 12:54
SV1000 is a much newer bike.

Not really, its just a second generation TL1000, which had a good motor but crap handling, nothing has changed in the handling department.

As for reliability, my 92 CBR900 did over 170,000k before the bottom end started grumbling, oil and filter every 3500kms, carb balance every 5000k, easy.

SMOKEU
4th November 2011, 13:31
carb balance every 5000k, easy.

Isn't that a bit overkill? I've done about 13,000km on my CBR250 and it hasn't had the carbies balanced since I've owned it. I don't know if any of the previous owners have had it done. The bike still runs like new.

sugilite
4th November 2011, 14:14
I've not ridden a blade in an age, though I did ride a SV1000 a year or two back and I found it to be completely uninspiring I'm sorry to say.

ducatilover
4th November 2011, 14:26
Isn't that a bit overkill? I've done about 13,000km on my CBR250 and it hasn't had the carbies balanced since I've owned it. I don't know if any of the previous owners have had it done. The bike still runs like new.

Not overkill at all. Your bike will love you for it, Kawasaki tell me in my owners manual to do a balance every 6000km.
IMHO carbs have a better feeling, they take up from 0% throttle much smoother than most FI systems.

SMOKEU
4th November 2011, 15:00
If I remove the fuel tank, fairings, air box etc then how much should I expect to pay a bike mechanic to balance all 4 carbs for me? I can do the easy stuff like removing everything to get to the carbs, it's just the carb balancing process that I'd rather not attempt.

ducatilover
4th November 2011, 15:53
Depends how far out of sync they are, it's not a hard job with the right tools though dude.

blackdog
4th November 2011, 16:05
If I remove the fuel tank, fairings, air box etc then how much should I expect to pay a bike mechanic to balance all 4 carbs for me? I can do the easy stuff like removing everything to get to the carbs, it's just the carb balancing process that I'd rather not attempt.

It runs like new, and you are selling it. Do your headstock bearings, get a WOF and out the door she goes.

Ender EnZed
4th November 2011, 16:19
Try a VTR1000 as well. Much better bike than the SV1000 IMO, whether it's better than the Fireblade or not will depend on how you find riding a big twin compared to a 4.

bsasuper
4th November 2011, 16:20
Isn't that a bit overkill? I've done about 13,000km on my CBR250 and it hasn't had the carbies balanced since I've owned it. I don't know if any of the previous owners have had it done. The bike still runs like new.

Thats what the service book recommends for a 92 CBR900RR.You dont have to do it, but then you wont notice how rough engine responce is, untill you do it.

blackdog
4th November 2011, 16:32
Try a VTR1000 as well. Much better bike than the SV1000 IMO, whether it's better than the Fireblade or not will depend on how you find riding a big twin compared to a 4.

Agreed. I was going to mention it earlier but got side tracked. You get VERY good value for money Firestorms if you are patient and they are a hoot to ride.

imdying
4th November 2011, 17:50
If you're still studying, then consider that twins are happy fuel drinkers.

I know heaps of things you can do make an SV1k fun to ride, ranging from free to how much you got.

The 900 was a flagship bike, and the SV was a budget bike, and it shows in the finish and how well it goes/rides.

I don't know if the early blades had any inherent problems other than the typical Honda R/R and CCT, but there is sure to be a 900rr forum; try a British one, they're typically on to it peeps.

The SV1ks have their own minor niggles, clutch slave, 'green connector', and an ever weeping crankcase socket plug, but those are all trivial and easy to fix in an afternoon. You will encounter two other problems in your research; 'the knock' and 'the chudder'.

The knock basically is a non issue, very few bikes ever actually had it, and even then only some early (presumably first batch?) 03s. Suzuki sorted those out with new crank bearings.

The chudder is a problem in the clutch basket that a small modification can fix. Plenty of switched on people in Chch who could carry that out for you, or there's a guy Sharealike doing them for you for $$$. If you're going to ride around town in traffic it might bother you enough to want to 'fix' it. Having said that, before you went down that route there are other tuning items that'll help reduce the effects of it that we'd sort out first. It manifests itself as a slight knocking sound/feel around 3500rpm, just so you know if you test ride one. I've not made the mod to mine, and if it were an Italian bike you'd just pass it off as 'character' :blip:

If it were my money I'd go the 900, but you can't deny you get a much later year bike in the SV. Ride them both, more than once. Ride some other stuff, see how they stack up. Something will gel with you... maybe you'll find out you're a closet tard rider :shit:

blackdog
4th November 2011, 17:57
V tidy ZX9R just advertised on here too, I liked mine much more than the blade.

Could be worth considering.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/143614-ZX9R-for-sale?highlight=zx9r

scumdog
4th November 2011, 18:10
I've never owned an EFI bike but I've heard
that carburettor maintenance like balancing and cleaning them can be expensive. Especially when there's 4 of them. In saying that my CBR250 has been very reliable.


Get a Harley.

One carb.

Even you couldn't fuck it up..:rofl::whistle:

Shadows
4th November 2011, 19:05
Isn't that a bit overkill? I've done about 13,000km on my CBR250 and it hasn't had the carbies balanced since I've owned it. I don't know if any of the previous owners have had it done. The bike still runs like new.

It's a slow decline so you wouldn't notice anything lacking. A bit like smoking.

sugilite
4th November 2011, 19:27
that ZX9R is a sweet bike. Lots of character and a way better roadbike than the blade.

SMOKEU
4th November 2011, 19:33
If you're still studying, then consider that twins are happy fuel drinkers.



Yeah, I'm a poor student so that's why I need something that's cheapish to run and maintain(yes, I know that big sports bikes chew through tyres, vehicle licensing is very expensive, insurance is expensive etc).


Get a Harley.

One carb.

Even you couldn't fuck it up..:rofl::whistle:

You'd be surprised, I'm sure I'll find a way.

Marmoot
4th November 2011, 21:55
The blade. The SV is a shit heap. If you're not going out of town much then consider a 600, they're fun++;

^ Wot he said.

AllanB
4th November 2011, 22:35
Aw christ the old carb v injected argument.

Get a injected bike - period. Put petrol in your tank, turn key, ride. Period. Modern injection is bloody fantistic stuff.




Between the two bike - get the Honda - if you find a clean one and look after it it may indeed become valuable in the years to come. A iconic bike that changed the market.

Batcerb
6th November 2011, 14:08
Well someone said zx9, so ill throw a zx7 in the mix :) got a haines manual I could sell to you if you need it ...

ducatilover
6th November 2011, 14:28
V tidy ZX9R just advertised on here too, I liked mine much more than the blade.

Could be worth considering.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/143614-ZX9R-for-sale?highlight=zx9r
Well worth adding to the list, I'd rather have one than an early blade, they've got more snot than an SV and being a 4cyl will be better on gas.

Marmoot
6th November 2011, 16:54
Well someone said zx9, so ill throw a zx7 in the mix :) got a haines manual I could sell to you if you need it ...

I don't think you can get a ZX7 for $5k.

Batcerb
6th November 2011, 20:49
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-402956712.htm

Getting close tho

imdying
7th November 2011, 09:06
The ZX7 is like the ZX9, a big old heavy piece of shite. If you're going the old route, get the blade or an SRAD.

SMOKEU
7th November 2011, 10:36
I've seen that the CBR is a little down on power compared to the ZX9R, but that doesn't really worry me seeing the CBR is a fair bit lighter as well. The CBR900RR seems to be the lightest bike in its class for that kind of price. I've made up my mind. I'll sell my 250 and get a 900RR. I bet it's going to be wheelie fun!

imdying
7th November 2011, 11:00
Ride some 600s too, they're top fun because you can wring them out good in more places.

Teflon
7th November 2011, 17:16
I've seen that the CBR is a little down on power compared to the ZX9R, but that doesn't really worry me seeing the CBR is a fair bit lighter as well. The CBR900RR seems to be the lightest bike in its class for that kind of price. I've made up my mind. I'll sell my 250 and get a 900RR. I bet it's going to be wheelie fun!

I would buy the original 92 model.. the rest are nothing special.

Test ride an tl1000s..

Marmoot
7th November 2011, 19:37
I'll sell my 250 and get a 900RR. I bet it's going to be wheelie fun!

Blade is really good at wheelies. And stoppies.
Very stable.
Unlike Ducatis.

CHOPPA
8th November 2011, 14:17
SV is a bit vague in the front, nice bike for sport touring very comfy

nonferrous
9th November 2011, 19:53
completely agree with what others have said - I had a 92 blade from new "superb" then went to 09 SV from new - what a disappointment and I sold it immediately

Ender EnZed
9th November 2011, 20:08
I've made up my mind. I'll sell my 250 and get a 900RR. I bet it's going to be wheelie fun!

Test ride a big twin sports bike as well though. They're good fun and well worth a try.


Blade is really good at wheelies.

+1

:whistle:

CRF119
6th December 2011, 21:53
I have a CBR919 it has just over 120,000km on the clock and the thing runs like new, starts every time no issues what so ever. I am told that the 954 handles much better so that could be a go. I paid 4 for my CBR919 2 years ago and done over 30,000km on it.

slowpoke
6th December 2011, 22:05
I would buy the original 92 model.. the rest are nothing special.

Test ride an tl1000s..

Bah humbug! 954 'blade was a ripper, light as buggery (lighter than the 600F4i of the time) and gave the fingers to the "Honda has no personality" argument. Might be a lil' outside the budget though.

tigertim20
6th December 2011, 23:50
the earlier blades had finicky handling in the corners, due possibly to a smaller front wheel or something? - bourbon brain is clouding memory -. If there is a reasonable jump in age between the two, the newer should automatically get a couple extra brownie points. Being older, the blade is more likely to need things like wheel bearings chain and sprockets, a major service like valve clearances etc simply because of age, as well as the likelyhood of being higher kays.

If you bought either bike, they would both benefit from some mods in the handling area, SV's have budget suspension, (if its still stock) and the blade will have close to 20 year old suspension and will probably be due for an overhaul - again due to age - if you want to get anywhere near (or better than) original handling.

Another thing to be wary of as well, is the availability of parts. my bike is a 2001, and was a pretty popular bike worldwide, and I have alot of trouble finding parts for it. All the normal shit you might want like generic shit i.e. levers chains sprockets brake pads etc arent an issue, but stuff like performance heads, cams, undertails etc etc are really thin on the ground, so if you intend to keep the bike a while and spend some money personalising it, this is definitely a point worth considering.

I would probably go so far as to say that coming off a cbr250, either bike will make you feel like your arms are getting ripped out of your sockets by comparison, but I think the SV might be a more learner friendly engine when it comes to getting to grips with a new big bike in a varied setting - mixed up between low and higher speeds, round town, open road etc etc.

Having said all this ride the both. You'll probably get a massive chubby over one and KNOW its the one you want. You might not be able to decide, then fall in love with something different as well. Its entirely possible youll buy a particular bike because you just HAVE to have it after riding it, regardless of how much bad shit people have to say about it.

SMOKEU
7th December 2011, 13:29
I took an early model CBR900RR out for a test ride, and it was my first time ever riding anything bigger than a 250. It wasn't the big scary monster I expected it to be, in fact it was very light and easy to ride. The frame felt a lot bigger and the riding position more aggressive than my 250, but it didn't feel much heavier than the 250.

Now I just have to sell my 250...

bsasuper
7th December 2011, 18:43
the earlier blades had finicky handling in the corners, due possibly to a smaller front wheel or something

.

NO, the first generation blades had a 16" rim, but the the tire size made it the same as a 17" with 120/70 rubber.When it first came out it blew everything away despite only having anything between 110-120hp, it weighed naff all.Most people crashed because they wernt used to the quick steering.

For me Hondas have been the best all rounder, they might not "win" in the highest horse power wars etc, but for a street sportbike they do everything with no fuss, ie, the handling is nice, the power is smooth.

tigertim20
7th December 2011, 19:05
I took an early model CBR900RR out for a test ride, and it was my first time ever riding anything bigger than a 250. It wasn't the big scary monster I expected it to be,..

use 2nd gear

SMOKEU
7th December 2011, 19:17
use 2nd gear

I went all the way up to 6th gear :yes:

Although I didn't give it more than 6,000RPM and I was gentle on the throttle as I didn't want to bin someone elses bike.

Ender EnZed
7th December 2011, 20:28
I went all the way up to 6th gear :yes:

Although I didn't give it more than 6,000RPM and I was gentle on the throttle as I didn't want to bin someone elses bike.

Next time you ride one make sure you use full throttle in first gear within the first 100m. :niceone:

ducatilover
7th December 2011, 21:18
Next time you ride one make sure you use full throttle in first gear within the first 100m. :niceone:
This is great advice :Punk:

Cheshire Cat
7th December 2011, 21:41
You have a lot to learn noob. Lets hope you don't go and brake yourself like a lot of other people do who jump on powerful bikes with little or no experience. cause that always looks good to ACC, yea.

:facepalm:

SMOKEU
7th December 2011, 23:09
You have a lot to learn noob. Lets hope you don't go and brake yourself like a lot of other people do who jump on powerful bikes with little or no experience. cause that always looks good to ACC, yea.

:facepalm:

I haven't binned a road bike yet. Several of my mates have binned bikes doing stupid shit and I don't want to end up like them so I take it easy.

Lurch
8th December 2011, 05:53
I went all the way up to 6th gear :yes:

Although I didn't give it more than 6,000RPM and I was gentle on the throttle as I didn't want to bin someone elses bike.

6000 RPM on that bike must be barely enough to keep it from labouring the engine isn't it?

ducatilover
8th December 2011, 10:12
I haven't binned a road bike yet. Several of my mates have binned bikes doing stupid shit and I don't want to end up like them so I take it easy.

;) Good man.


You can always do a skid though.

imdying
8th December 2011, 11:33
6000 RPM on that bike must be barely enough to keep it from labouring the engine isn't it?Naw, an IL4 you can happily ride down to idle without the clutch, bit different from a twin.

Just keep it in your pants and you'll be fine :)

Ferkletastic
8th December 2011, 12:06
nthing the ride a few bikes before you make a decision thing. The first bike will nearly always feel awesome because it's such a big leap from the 250.

Ride a few bikes and you've got a much better chance of getting something that really floats your boat.

Ragingrob
8th December 2011, 13:04
You have a lot to learn noob. Lets hope you don't go and brake yourself like a lot of other people do who jump on powerful bikes with little or no experience. cause that always looks good to ACC, yea.

:facepalm:

You mean like you did? Gotta watch those unavoidable accidents eh!

:brick:

Fast Eddie
8th December 2011, 18:26
NO, the first generation blades had a 16" rim, but the the tire size made it the same as a 17" with 120/70 rubber.When it first came out it blew everything away despite only having anything between 110-120hp, it weighed naff all.Most people crashed because they wernt used to the quick steering.

For me Hondas have been the best all rounder, they might not "win" in the highest horse power wars etc, but for a street sportbike they do everything with no fuss, ie, the handling is nice, the power is smooth.

oo yes.. I love mine. they run an oversize front, its actually 130 wide :) and never had a problem with the handling or steering on mine. Steerings not that quick anymore by todays standards.

Hope you buy the 900 Fireblade SmokeU, I've had mine since 08 now, I don't think I'll ever sell it. shes a keeper. I ended up buying a second bike rather than sell the blade. hehe..

and don't worry about parts, heaaps avail ex UK and japan. I got all kinds for my blade, single seat tail cowl, full exhaust system, braided lines kit, rear sets, headlight cover, tail tidy kit, etc etc. and you can get some tuning bits and pieces, I got an Airbox and hi flo filter, a carb kit and the full exhaust system. She runs nice.

Post pictures when you buy one.. I vote for old blade..

JimO
8th December 2011, 21:16
You have a lot to learn noob. Lets hope you don't go and brake yourself like a lot of other people do who jump on powerful bikes with little or no experience. cause that always looks good to ACC, yea.

:facepalm:

is that you grandad???

Marmoot
8th December 2011, 22:57
I went all the way up to 6th gear :yes:

Although I didn't give it more than 6,000RPM and I was gentle on the throttle as I didn't want to bin someone elses bike.

It might be a 900cc and not a 600cc, but things still really just starting to cook at about 6000rpm.
It's mostly due to emission law compliance that around 4000-5000 rpm range is always very downtuned.

Berries
8th December 2011, 23:24
I've got an 04 SV. Bought new, ridden nearly every day, never had a single problem with it. I wouldn't have another one and would chop it in tomorrow if it wasn't for the need to feed the wife and kids. It has no soul.

It fucking shifts though.

SMOKEU
8th December 2011, 23:35
I just sold my bike today so I'm waiting for a tidy Fireblade to come up for sale in the Canterbury area. They all seem to be in the north island and I really can't afford to jet up north, then pay for overnight accommodation somewhere and a ferry. Looks like I'll be getting fit on the old Nishiki single speed.

dangerous
9th December 2011, 05:44
is that you grandad???

hes right tho... fucked if I understand why the hell rookies jump from there learners bike to a big bored or high HP bike, feck me Im sure the only reason Im still here is due to going from a 80-125-250-500-750-turbo-etc... every bike ya learn something new on, and to this day I am still learning.
The other thing that has a lot to do with it is attude, I have never liked smoke's avatar or his boy racer followings, but I tell ya what fella... get a bike and we will go for a ride and we shell see what you can learn, or me for that mater.

SMOKEU
9th December 2011, 10:01
get a bike and we will go for a ride and we shell see what you can learn, or me for that mater.

Sweet as, count me in. I'm by no means a good rider so I need all the mentoring from more experienced riders that I can get.

Fast Eddie
9th December 2011, 10:16
I just sold my bike today so I'm waiting for a tidy Fireblade to come up for sale in the Canterbury area. They all seem to be in the north island and I really can't afford to jet up north, then pay for overnight accommodation somewhere and a ferry. Looks like I'll be getting fit on the old Nishiki single speed.

I think you just missed out on the blade sale in the south island man. I watched a Tigerblade 1996 sell in chch for 3,900. And there was a black one like mine 96/97 down here in Dunedin that must have sold recently, couple of weeks. Went for around 4,500 I think. And there was another Tigerblade in Nelson maybe, he wanted a bit more for it but he was dreaming.

Now there isn't much.

Hope you get one, when you do we should meet up and go for a blade ride. I havent ridden with another one yet. I don't see many of them around

ducatilover
9th December 2011, 11:36
There's a fucking nice 954 up on this island under $5k. ;) Do a big trip, it's worth it. You can park it in my garage.

SMOKEU
9th December 2011, 12:09
I think you just missed out on the blade sale in the south island man. I watched a Tigerblade 1996 sell in chch for 3,900.

I took that one for a test ride but it needed around $800 spent on it right then and with that mileage (100,000km) and corresponding resale value I decided to flag it.

SMOKEU
9th December 2011, 12:13
There's a fucking nice 954 up on this island under $5k.

Details please....

I'm thinking if I buy one from the North Island then that's at least another $300 on top of the purchase price, $80ish to jet over there, $100ish for the ferry and $80ish for a 1 night stay in a cheap motel, + food and fuel (and I'm not exactly rich being unemployed).

If the price is right I might be willing to jet up north.

ducatilover
9th December 2011, 13:16
Details please....

I'm thinking if I buy one from the North Island then that's at least another $300 on top of the purchase price, $80ish to jet over there, $100ish for the ferry and $80ish for a 1 night stay in a cheap motel, + food and fuel (and I'm not exactly rich being unemployed).

If the price is right I might be willing to jet up north.
:facepalm: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-430139477.htm my bad, it's not a 954. I was a bit tired last night lol
I might be able to find a spare mattress at my place if you needed it

SMOKEU
9th December 2011, 13:19
:facepalm: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-430139477.htm my bad, it's not a 954. I was a bit tired last night lol
I might be able to find a spare mattress at my place if you needed it

It's tempting...what part of the north island are you in?

ducatilover
9th December 2011, 13:22
It's tempting...what part of the north island are you in?
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Hopefully that linky works?
I'm near Palmerston North

Ender EnZed
9th December 2011, 15:39
:facepalm: http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-430139477.htm my bad, it's not a 954. I was a bit tired last night lol
I might be able to find a spare mattress at my place if you needed it

The guy selling it now bought it five days ago for $4010.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=424436708

ducatilover
9th December 2011, 15:47
The guy selling it now bought it five days ago for $4010.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=424436708

That looks a tiny bit suspicious....

SMOKEU
9th December 2011, 15:58
I also thought its a bit strange, someone selling a bike after a week.

Fast Eddie
9th December 2011, 17:06
The guy selling it now bought it five days ago for $4010.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=424436708

yea I thought that bike was listed for cheaper not long ago, didnt realise someone bought it and relisted it! haha.. well at least you know you can offer him less. Offer him 3,800.

imdying
9th December 2011, 17:32
Somebody purchased without the consent of a loving wife :laugh:

sil3nt
9th December 2011, 19:09
He may have paid less than the buy now but we have no idea what the reserve is.

Usarka
10th December 2011, 12:59
but we have no idea what the reserve is.

3.4 litres

Fast Eddie
10th December 2011, 14:31
3.4 litres

hahahahahaha :D

Fast Eddie
10th December 2011, 14:38
He may have paid less than the buy now but we have no idea what the reserve is.

ha.. not 'may have paid less' - We know that he paid 4010.00 for it. And reserve is about 4,200 I think.. from my calc skills.

I would def offer him around 4,000 for it even try for less, 3,800 and then you have coin left to transport it or ride it down. transporter will be 450.00 max from napier to chch I think riding it may be a more than that? depends how much gas you chew through and how much fast food you munch on.

ducatilover
10th December 2011, 14:46
ha.. not 'may have paid less' - We know that he paid 4010.00 for it. And reserve is about 4,200 I think.. from my calc skills.

I would def offer him around 4,000 for it even try for less, 3,800 and then you have coin left to transport it or ride it down. transporter will be 450.00 max from napier to chch I think riding it may be a more than that? depends how much gas you chew through and how much fast food you munch on.
What if he purchased a "mint" bike and it's fucked? Might have some sneaky big accident damage :mellow:

sil3nt
10th December 2011, 15:37
ha.. not 'may have paid less' - We know that he paid 4010.00 for it. And reserve is about 4,200 I think.. from my calc skills.

I would def offer him around 4,000 for it even try for less, 3,800 and then you have coin left to transport it or ride it down. transporter will be 450.00 max from napier to chch I think riding it may be a more than that? depends how much gas you chew through and how much fast food you munch on.Doesn't really matter. His bike now he can ask whatever he wants for it!

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 11:19
What if he purchased a "mint" bike and it's fucked? Might have some sneaky big accident damage :mellow:

ha. not impossible. He is using the same photos as used from the previous owners listing :D might be hiding something.

On his listing he just says rode it for 500kms and decided to keep his V Strom. Doesn't seem like a sane lad to me. Best to offer him 3,500. Thats what I paid for my '97 :D best purchase ever.
I had a 89 ZXR750H1 for a neat 1000.00 as well.. gotta buy while the buyings hot!

SMOKEU
11th December 2011, 11:25
ha. not impossible. He is using the same photos as used from the previous owners listing :D might be hiding something.

On his listing he just says rode it for 500kms and decided to keep his V Strom. Doesn't seem like a sane lad to me. Best to offer him 3,500. Thats what I paid for my '97 :D best purchase ever.
I had a 89 ZXR750H1 for a neat 1000.00 as well.. gotta buy while the buyings hot!

Does your one lift the front wheel easily in 1st or 2nd gear without the use of the clutch?

ducatilover
11th December 2011, 11:30
ha. not impossible. He is using the same photos as used from the previous owners listing :D might be hiding something.

On his listing he just says rode it for 500kms and decided to keep his V Strom. Doesn't seem like a sane lad to me. Best to offer him 3,500. Thats what I paid for my '97 :D best purchase ever.
I had a 89 ZXR750H1 for a neat 1000.00 as well.. gotta buy while the buyings hot!
I'd say there's something rather wrong with the 'Blade... cracked frame maybe? Could make for some interesting handling.

SMOKEU
11th December 2011, 11:32
I'd say there's something rather wrong with the 'Blade... cracked frame maybe? Could make for some interesting handling.

Either that or the rider managed to scare the shit out of themself and now they want to flick it off quickly.

ducatilover
11th December 2011, 11:35
Either that or the rider managed to scare the shit out of themself and now they want to flick it off quickly.
Could be that too.
It's a bit of an odd one. I'd like to check it out, if it's as tidy as they say then it's probably a good deal.

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 11:37
Either that or the rider managed to scare the shit out of themself and now they want to flick it off quickly.

lol yea I'd say he was genuine man.. can always ask for recent photos of it.

I recon he really did buy a blade to see if he could move up from the old v-strom but realised shes a bit different. Blades not really a sport tourer/adventure bike lol. And its not a lazy twin either.

If its as good as the previous owner listed when it sold for 4k I'd say its a solid investment. has the alarm and all the original gear, manuals, 2 keys etc. you prob wouldn't lose money on it and you could have a lot of fun on it smokeU

I'm watching you.. buy a blade.

SMOKEU
11th December 2011, 11:53
lol yea I'd say he was genuine man.. can always ask for recent photos of it.

I recon he really did buy a blade to see if he could move up from the old v-strom but realised shes a bit different. Blades not really a sport tourer/adventure bike lol. And its not a lazy twin either.

If its as good as the previous owner listed when it sold for 4k I'd say its a solid investment. has the alarm and all the original gear, manuals, 2 keys etc. you prob wouldn't lose money on it and you could have a lot of fun on it smokeU

I'm watching you.. buy a blade.

My mum won't let me buy a big bike, so I can't really fly up north to get one, the best thing I could do is wait till I find one in Christchurch then just show up home with it. She'll probably try to chop my balls off with a kitchen knife right then and there.

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 12:04
My mum won't let me buy a big bike, so I can't really fly up north to get one, the best thing I could do is wait till I find one in Christchurch then just show up home with it. She'll probably try to chop my balls off with a kitchen knife right then and there.


haha classic..

I've got a spare frame and swingarm.. you could build one up on the d.lo in your room..

JimO
11th December 2011, 13:38
My mum won't let me buy a big bike, so I can't really fly up north to get one, the best thing I could do is wait till I find one in Christchurch then just show up home with it. She'll probably try to chop my balls off with a kitchen knife right then and there.

mums usually know best

Oblivion
11th December 2011, 13:47
mums usually know best

My mum wouldn't even let me get a bike in the first place. Had to bargain through Dad. Being a crashed biker, it was hard, but I got there in the end. :cool:

SMOKEU
11th December 2011, 14:18
My old man hates bikes even more than my mum does.

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 15:05
My old man hates bikes even more than my mum does.

Lol.. they just don't wanna see you missing arms and legs or worse ;) everyone loves bikes

ducatilover
11th December 2011, 15:10
Just buy it bro.
My mother goes off at me every time I get a bike (that'd be seven times now...) and I don't see her stopping. :rolleyes:

Ender EnZed
11th December 2011, 16:00
Does your one lift the front wheel easily in 1st or 2nd gear without the use of the clutch?

I've only ridden a 919 once but I couldn't get to full throttle in first without the front wheel leaving the ground. Definitely no clutch needed. In second it was possible to keep it down, I didn't try getting it up.


I'd say there's something rather wrong with the 'Blade... cracked frame maybe? Could make for some interesting handling.

It's a bit suspicious but if it isn't fucked then $4k is a good price for a tidy 'Blade with those km.


My mum won't let me buy a big bike

Tell her it's a newer CBR250.

dangerous
11th December 2011, 16:54
Sweet as, count me in. I'm by no means a good rider so I need all the mentoring from more experienced riders that I can get.
"by no means a good rider" yet you want t go from a 250 to a 1000 twin or 600 muilti? (its proberly been covered in the thread, sorry I havnt read all)
Any ways just back from the S/I KB rally awesome as allways... now when you get a bike p/m me and we will sort something.

tigertim20
11th December 2011, 16:57
Next time you ride one make sure you use full throttle in first gear within the first 100m. :niceone:
Yeah, do a ducatilover . . .

I went all the way up to 6th gear :yes:

Although I didn't give it more than 6,000RPM and I was gentle on the throttle as I didn't want to bin someone elses bike.
Did you see that red bit at the end of the tacho? thats a target for revs before you snatch another gear. Oh, and its a race to get to the red . . .

I've got an 04 SV. Bought new, ridden nearly every day, never had a single problem with it. I wouldn't have another one and would chop it in tomorrow if it wasn't for the need to feed the wife and kids. It has no soul.

It fucking shifts though.
that Yours parked in central dunnaz, round the corner from MCR most days?

3.4 litres
bahahahaha! win.

ha.. not 'may have paid less' - We know that he paid 4010.00 for it. And reserve is about 4,200 I think.. from my calc skills.

I would def offer him around 4,000 for it even try for less, 3,800 and then you have coin left to transport it or ride it down. transporter will be 450.00 max from napier to chch I think riding it may be a more than that? depends how much gas you chew through and how much fast food you munch on.
Mate recently got a 650 twin from the Naki to the door in Dunedin for $450 through biketranz, so that should give you an idea.

I'd say there's something rather wrong with the 'Blade... cracked frame maybe? Could make for some interesting handling.
cracked frame? Owner doesnt state that he's been doing wheelies . .

If it appears to be a good deal, place your bid and go to pick it up - on the proviso that it is as listed and pictured. If it isnt when you get there, tell him its $xxx less because he wasnt completely forthcoming in the description, and threaten to simply walk away if he doesnt want it.
Says he has a lot of paperwork etc for it thats a good sign. May just be that its not what he expected from a bike. Not everyone wants to go everywhere at 280km/hr

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 18:43
Does your one lift the front wheel easily in 1st or 2nd gear without the use of the clutch?

1st gear is easy to lift up yip and quick too. 2nd gear requires more commitment, Not that I pay all that much attention to what gear I'm in at W.O.T. but it does go light in the front in I think 2nd and 3rd gears as well, i.e. getting drive out of the corner and opening it right up in its powerband is likely to make the front go light in 2nd and possibly 3rd.. and thats hunched over the tank. So I'm sure you'll have no problems riding round chch on one wheel. Mind the pot holes tho. These were touted as being wheelie happy when they were popular in the 90s :D enjooy. Oh and no I don't slip the clutch, no need for that - just chuck your ass as far back as possible and let her rip. gone are the CBR250R days of slipping the clutch til rpms hits 15,000 then dumping it for wheelie action hehe.. Although my 89 one stood up to my abuse very well..


On the blade I get a warm sensation..

.. then I remember there is no toilet onboard

are you closer to getting on yet.. I dream of starting an early gen 92-97 fireblade club.. just the original or close to originals.. big pack of us.. that'll be the day :D can even steal the name 'Blades of Glory' from that movie

SMOKEU
11th December 2011, 19:05
Yeah, about that...I've never had the balls to wheelie a road bike. I have done very small wheelies on dirt bikes but I'm too scared I'm going to fuck myself up so when I had my CBR250 I kept both wheels on the ground at all times.

I've got just over $5k cash so when one pops up for sale in or around Christchurch I'll have a look at it.

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 19:13
Yeah, about that...I've never had the balls to wheelie a road bike. I have done very small wheelies on dirt bikes but I'm too scared I'm going to fuck myself up so when I had my CBR250 I kept both wheels on the ground at all times.

I've got just over $5k cash so when one pops up for sale in or around Christchurch I'll have a look at it.

Yea no point trying if your not too keen.. I'v fallen off the back a few times.. but I have the balance of a drunk giraffe on a unicycle..

5k should def get you a blade :D ... ill be bombing you with trademe links when one pops up :D

SMOKEU
11th December 2011, 19:18
Yea no point trying if your not too keen.. I'v fallen off the back a few times.. but I have the balance of a drunk giraffe on a unicycle..

5k should def get you a blade :D ... ill be bombing you with trademe links when one pops up :D

Sweet, that sounds good. I saw an early model GSXR600 http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-427549326.htm which is pretty tempting, but I think I'll wait for a Fireblade to come up for sale.

I just bought a rough TS185 yesterday so I have something to keep me occupied in the mean time.

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 20:48
Sweet, that sounds good. I saw an early model GSXR600 http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-427549326.htm which is pretty tempting, but I think I'll wait for a Fireblade to come up for sale.

I just bought a rough TS185 yesterday so I have something to keep me occupied in the mean time.

not a bad looking GSXR eh.. but a bit out of your budget :)

looks a cool package though, they make about 100hp over the blades 128(ish some make more some make less) but are lighter weight.. I'm sure you'd have heaps of fun on it..

but a blades a blade.. they have character and history of being the King in the 90's - til that damn R1 came along in 98..

tigertim20
11th December 2011, 21:21
not a bad looking GSXR eh.. but a bit out of your budget :)

looks a cool package though, they make about 100hp over the blades 128(ish some make more some make less) but are lighter weight.. I'm sure you'd have heaps of fun on it..

but a blades a blade.. they have character and history of being the King in the 90's - til that damn R1 came along in 98..

:bleh::bleh::bleh:

ducatilover
11th December 2011, 21:23
Sweet, that sounds good. I saw an early model GSXR600 http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-427549326.htm which is pretty tempting, but I think I'll wait for a Fireblade to come up for sale.

I just bought a rough TS185 yesterday so I have something to keep me occupied in the mean time.
They give me the horn.
You might be able to snaggle a sem-fiddy for that coin though.
Myself, I'd get an SRAD. But I'm a dick.

SMOKEU
11th December 2011, 21:25
They give me the horn.
You might be able to snaggle a sem-fiddy for that coin though.
Myself, I'd get an SRAD. But I'm a dick.

I reckon that if I walked up to the owner of that GSXR600 and show them $5,000 cash in my hand they'll take it. I have noticed that it's a very light bike as well, and a bit more modern than the Fireblade....

It's tempting.

ducatilover
11th December 2011, 21:30
I reckon that if I walked up to the owner of that GSXR600 and show them $5,000 cash in my hand they'll take it. I have noticed that it's a very light bike as well, and a bit more modern than the Fireblade....

It's tempting.
I'd certainly own one.
In theory, it's a better step up from a 250 and I would imagine it's no less fun. They're a good bike. But... a 'blade is a 'blade. The only 90's bike's I'd take over a 'blade are an early R1 (fuck they rock) and an SRAD (I'm sick)

ducatilover
11th December 2011, 21:32
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-429703404.htm :niceone:

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 21:47
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-429703404.htm :niceone:

mm now thats in your price range SMOKEU !

I always liked the SRADS.. mainly because of the Whale tale seat cowl.. I don't like the head lights or front that much anymore

Still, the GSXR might be a few years newer but I've had the SRAD and the K1 next to the blade and have to say, with some bias, that the build quality and finish on the blade was waaay better.

Best to go look at a few yourself and ride em and I think you'll see what I mean.

tigertim20
11th December 2011, 21:56
I reckon that if I walked up to the owner of that GSXR600 and show them $5,000 cash in my hand they'll take it. I have noticed that it's a very light bike as well, and a bit more modern than the Fireblade....

It's tempting.
Its quite a lot of bike for fuck all coin. Its summer, its close to xmas, so when you see a deal, TAKE IT, the deals dont last long at this time of year. My mate sold his far-less that perfect 04 r6 for 6300 today.
Dont be too concerned over buying further away, just make sure you have them take it into a local bike shop to get it checked over before spending any coins. its not much hassle, and you're WAY more likely to get a good deal if you look further afield that just in CHCH.
Plus, theres plenty of people on here who are willing to go do a look and test ride for you, Id do one for you if you were looking at something down this way.

I'd certainly own one.
In theory, it's a better step up from a 250 and I would imagine it's no less fun. They're a good bike. But... a 'blade is a 'blade. The only 90's bike's I'd take over a 'blade are an early R1 (fuck they rock) and an SRAD (I'm sick)

yup, any reasonably modern 600+ is going to be a solid step up from a 250. the thou might not have seemed very scary, but when youre going a tad faster, say 70-90 through a corner in 2nd and snap the gas a tad too fast . . .
of course you could do that on a 600, or wheelie-ing a 400/600 too . . .

Yeah the carby R1's are fucking fun, but in capable hands, any litre bike is a serious piece of equipment.

jafar
11th December 2011, 21:58
I reckon that if I walked up to the owner of that GSXR600 and show them $5,000 cash in my hand they'll take it. I have noticed that it's a very light bike as well, and a bit more modern than the Fireblade....

It's tempting.

Your trying to jump too far too fast, have a look at something in the 400 to 500 bracket instead, ride that for a year , then move up to a larger bike. There are a lot of good bikes @ reasonable prices in the mid size range. Even a bike like a GSXR 600 would be too much of a jump for most learners to make. Bigger is not nessisarily better :msn-wink:

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 22:00
I reckon that if I walked up to the owner of that GSXR600 and show them $5,000 cash in my hand they'll take it. I have noticed that it's a very light bike as well, and a bit more modern than the Fireblade....

It's tempting.

its worth a shot, not only are they a bit lighter (and 20kg makes a huge diff) the blade is also physically larger, they are very wide bikes, big tank and frame. the GSXR is a bit narrower n smaller, prob easier step up from a 250..

I keep forgetting your stepping up from a 250..

I went cbr250r - zxr400 - cbr600f1 - cb550 turbo charged - zxr750 - the blade.. since then I've been jumping on any bike I can, Todays bikes go fuuuckn quick. too quick for the public roads. Anything like the early 2000 600's will impress you and be more than enough fun for a while. I find the smaller bikes a bit more fun as well, easier to handle and you can actually use the power, you can redline it a bit more, feel like your actually riding a bit harder - The blade can become a handful, you redline 1st and 2nd and your going very very quick indeed and the police ask you what the hell you think you were doing back there...:eek:

Have you been out on ruapuna SmokeU? surely if you havent you will very soon with a new bigger sports bike. its only 50 bucks for half a day, every tues and friday they open it up.

I just bought this aprilia rs250.. f*ck I can't wait til it gets here.. I want to scream thru dunedin like Max Biaggi

SMOKEU
11th December 2011, 22:01
Your trying to jump too far too fast, have a look at something in the 400 to 500 bracket instead, ride that for a year , then move up to a larger bike. There are a lot of good bikes @ reasonable prices in the mid size range. Even a bike like a GSXR 600 would be too much of a jump for most learners to make. Bigger is not nessisarily better :msn-wink:

So are you saying I shouldn't be looking for something with significantly more power than I can handle?!?!?! I thought that was the whole point of big sports bikes.

SMOKEU
11th December 2011, 22:05
its worth a shot, not only are they a bit lighter (and 20kg makes a huge diff) the blade is also physically larger, they are very wide bikes, big tank and frame. the GSXR is a bit narrower n smaller, prob easier step up from a 250..


I'm just over 6 foot tall so I don't really want something too small. I'll have a look at a GSXR600 but I suspect it might be a little small to be comforable on longer rides. On my CBR250 after a ride out to Akaroa and back with a 20 minute stop in Akaroa, my ass would feel like I've just come out of an African jail.

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 22:07
Your trying to jump too far too fast, have a look at something in the 400 to 500 bracket instead, ride that for a year , then move up to a larger bike. There are a lot of good bikes @ reasonable prices in the mid size range. Even a bike like a GSXR 600 would be too much of a jump for most learners to make. Bigger is not nessisarily better :msn-wink:

probably sound advice.. although I would skip the 400's they are fuck all difference compared to the 250's eh. and you don't really get any 500cc sports bikes tho? I had a CB550 turbo but wasn't supposed to be a fast bike.. just forced it to be one.

he will be fine, stop worrying the lad. He'll know its a bit much once hes tried to stop it in a hurry, or gone a bit hot into a corner

tigertim20
11th December 2011, 22:10
Your trying to jump too far too fast, have a look at something in the 400 to 500 bracket instead, ride that for a year , then move up to a larger bike. There are a lot of good bikes @ reasonable prices in the mid size range. Even a bike like a GSXR 600 would be too much of a jump for most learners to make. Bigger is not nessisarily better :msn-wink:

That is a crock of shit.
I can agree that bigger isnt always better, but to say that 250-600 is too big for most people is bullshit.
There is no such thing as too big/too powerful, there is ONLY such thing as not enough self control. Know your limits and ride to the, whether you're on a ginny, or a 2011 zx10r, and you will be fine.
The point of getting something a little bigger is so that you have something you can grow into, learn from, and plot your progress as a rider. theres nothing wrong with that as long as you do so sensibly.

tigertim20
11th December 2011, 22:14
I'm just over 6 foot tall so I don't really want something too small. I'll have a look at a GSXR600 but I suspect it might be a little small to be comforable on longer rides. On my CBR250 after a ride out to Akaroa and back with a 20 minute stop in Akaroa, my ass would feel like I've just come out of an African jail.

fast eddie and I are similar in height if not taller. the 600s are actually quite good in size considering their era.
One of my previous bikes (I tend to own several at a time) was a CBR600 F2. I lined that up beside the R1.
The R1 had a shorter wheelbase, the whole bike was more compact. The r1 I find more comfortable on a longer ride, which I think is basically down to the quality of suspension, rather than the size, so I wouldnt at all be put off by the notion of a 600 in terms of your height.

I used to do 1200km day rides on a regular basis on my CBR600, and it was a great bike for the long haul stuff, had enough poke to pass easily as when loaded up, and behind a line of cars and trucks, nimble enough for the corners etc etc.

jafar
11th December 2011, 22:16
I'm just over 6 foot tall so I don't really want something too small. I'll have a look at a GSXR600 but I suspect it might be a little small to be comforable on longer rides. On my CBR250 after a ride out to Akaroa and back with a 20 minute stop in Akaroa, my ass would feel like I've just come out of an African jail.

Your now on to the frame size, that has little to do with the cc rating. Enjoy shopping around for your new bike.


probably sound advice.. although I would skip the 400's they are fuck all difference compared to the 250's eh. and you don't really get any 500cc sports bikes tho? I had a CB550 turbo but wasn't supposed to be a fast bike.. just forced it to be one.

he will be fine, stop worrying the lad. He'll know its a bit much once hes tried to stop it in a hurry, or gone a bit hot into a corner

Your suggesting that he should go from a 20hp learners bike to a 100+ hp sportsbike in one jump??? :eek:
Thats nuts, I'm surprised that no one else here questioned his reasoning as to why he would want to do such a big jump in size, weight, power & cost.

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 22:17
I'm just over 6 foot tall so I don't really want something too small. I'll have a look at a GSXR600 but I suspect it might be a little small to be comforable on longer rides. On my CBR250 after a ride out to Akaroa and back with a 20 minute stop in Akaroa, my ass would feel like I've just come out of an African jail.

hahaha.. I know what you mean, I'm from S.A. ;)

I won't be able to advise on comfort levels.. my blade has rear sets and couple other things which have made it less comfy than it used to be but has better ground clearance for the corners.

I didn't think the GSXR600 was that much smaller than the blade the blade is afterall the size of a 750 its smaller than other 1000cc bikes. Blade is more just wider, has a wide frame and tank..

I'm all excited, I'm caught up in your bike buying buzz, even though I just bought myself another last week.. the thrill is lasting longer jumping on your bandwagon :D

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 22:22
Your now on to the frame size, that has little to do with the cc rating. Enjoy shopping around for your new bike.



Your suggesting that he should go from a 20hp learners bike to a 100+ hp sportsbike in one jump??? :eek:
Thats nuts, I'm surprised that no one else here questioned his reasoning as to why he would want to do such a big jump in size, weight, power & cost.

well the old CBR250R should make 45hp.. and a slogged out 600 should make around 100 if not less.. but its lugging a bit more weight.

The cbr250rs are enough to get you into trouble anyway so its not that huge of a jump.. and like tigertim said.. its about self control and being aware of what you are riding. I don't jump on the busa and open it up and hold it for the same time as I do on the 250 and then wonder why I was going so much faster into the same corner..

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 22:25
I'm surprised that no one else here questioned his reasoning as to why he would want to do such a big jump in size, weight, power & cost.

haha.. I'm not questioning it because I went from cbr250r - cbr600f.. I had that zxr400 but I really didn't notice f-all difference from the 250-400..

like Tigertim said, you don't wanna keep buying a bike that is the same as the last one, you want to have something you can grow into and learn new skills. it would be painful to just jump up 5hp every year..

it has to go like this 250 - 600 - 1000 - top fuel dragster.

its the natural progression

tigertim20
11th December 2011, 22:33
Your now on to the frame size, that has little to do with the cc rating. Enjoy shopping around for your new bike.



Your suggesting that he should go from a 20hp learners bike to a 100+ hp sportsbike in one jump??? :eek:
Thats nuts, I'm surprised that no one else here questioned his reasoning as to why he would want to do such a big jump in size, weight, power & cost.

the cbr 250 was quoted at 45 atw, mate had his bike (same model and year) dynoed at 38.8hp atw, stock earlier this year. The GSXR, at the WHEEL, is more like 85hp, so the jump is not that massive.
cost wise, he has 5k, have you seen the state of the 250 market?

250 - 600 is a fairly standard and not unusual jump.

SMOKEU
11th December 2011, 22:33
Have you been out on ruapuna SmokeU?

Yes I have (on my old CBR250), and it was the most fun I've had with my clothes on, except for the first time I rode a big sports bike. I really want some track time as soon as I get a big bike.


hahaha.. I know what you mean, I'm from S.A. ;)



Awesome, what part of the home land are you from?

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 22:39
Yes I have (on my old CBR250), and it was the most fun I've had with my clothes on, except for the first time I rode a big sports bike. I really want some track time as soon as I get a big bike.



Awesome, what part of the home land are you from?

Durban born bro, then grew up in little Mtunzini.. then after the apartheit thing fell thru we kinda bailed haha..

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 22:40
250 - 600 is a fairly standard and not unusual jump.

yea I recon that dude was an older fella :D back when 125cc was a real bike and anything bigger than 400cc was a death trap ;)

SMOKEU
11th December 2011, 22:42
Durban born bro, then grew up in little Mtunzini.. then after the apartheit thing fell thru we kinda bailed haha..

I'm from Cape Town. Moved over here in 1997. Still go back every 3 years or so to see the family.

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 22:49
I'm from Cape Town. Moved over here in 1997. Still go back every 3 years or so to see the family.

Lucky, I haven't been back since '95 eh.. no money.. I will go back asap though. All our family and fam friends moved, only a few remain in Durban and Empangeni

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 22:50
I'm from Cape Town. Moved over here in 1997. Still go back every 3 years or so to see the family.

I think when you get your new bike we will have to go play on the track together if your keen :D

SMOKEU
11th December 2011, 22:53
I think when you get your new bike we will have to go play on the track together if your keen :D

Fucking oath. I can't wait to take a Fireblade to a race track.

Cheshire Cat
11th December 2011, 22:57
You mean like you did? Gotta watch those unavoidable accidents eh!

:brick:

Fuck yeah! those fucking dorkland cunts that do uturns ae. look behind you retard!! where did you get your license from? a weetbix pack? jeeez!
i have dropped my bikes a few times. Most bins wins! if youre not falling off youre not learning anything :tugger:

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 22:58
Fucking oath. I can't wait to take a Fireblade to a race track.

done :D

also.. this thing looks like a weapon http://www.motorcycletrader.co.nz/View/Used/HONDA-CBR900RR-FIREBLADE-1997/40625.aspx?Ntt=fireblade&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&N=0&Ntk=All

it says richmond heights, central north island which I believe is in Taupo.. which is where I will be 20th dec - 5th Jan.. if you say bought it and needed someone to ride it back to chch for you :D hehe your mother will never know ;)

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 22:59
Fuck yeah! those fucking dorkland cunts that do uturns ae. look behind you retard!! where did you get your license from? a weetbix pack? jeeez!
i have dropped my bikes a few times. Most bins wins! if youre not falling off youre not learning anything :tugger:

hahaha ^ where did you come from? are you in the right thread?

Cheshire Cat
11th December 2011, 23:03
hahaha ^ where did you come from? are you in the right thread?

hahahahaha do you know who you're talking to?

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 23:09
hahahahaha do you know who you're talking to?

is that you Dad?

Cheshire Cat
11th December 2011, 23:12
is that you Dad?

Call me Daddy :cool:

tigertim20
11th December 2011, 23:13
is that you Dad?

It could be, I hear apartheid was a rough time . . .:msn-wink:


too far?:Police:

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 23:24
It could be, I hear apartheid was a rough time . . .:msn-wink:


too far?:Police:

hahah nah your alright :laugh:

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 23:24
Call me Daddy :cool:

bend over..

ducatilover
11th December 2011, 23:25
mm now thats in your price range SMOKEU !

I always liked the SRADS.. mainly because of the Whale tale seat cowl.. I don't like the head lights or front that much anymore

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The SRADs do look bloody good, that's why I want one, I myself think the ZZR600 handles and goes well enough for me...as I keep saying, I'm sick :rolleyes:


.
of course you could do that on a 600, or wheelie-ing a 400/600 too . . .

. Fuck, who does that? Retards. (600 BTW)

The CBR is 45 at the crank, 38rwhp is a very healthy one.
The Gixxer6 should be around 90-95rwhp I expect.
Both the Gixxer6 and 'blade are well sorted bikes that won't try and destroy you too fast. As Tigertim says, self control is the key.

Cheshire Cat
11th December 2011, 23:26
bend over..

No. you bend over, come to Daddy :Police:

Fast Eddie
11th December 2011, 23:37
Both the Gixxer6 and 'blade are well sorted bikes that won't try and destroy you too fast.

hehe had a chuckle at that one as I remember one of the first decent hammerings I gave my, then new, blade around Govenors Bay rds in Chch.. fuckn thing nearly threw me off after going into a violent bump stop to bump stop tank slapper.. think the front wheel was hovering about 1/4 of an inch off the ground under accel and I think may have clipped some uneven patch of the road.. I don't really know what happend. I remember being wide open throttle laughing at the brutal acceleration of my new toy and then thinking fuck this is going wrong! man it was violent. didnt throw me off tho and stayed on the rd - someone was helping me out up above

fella behind me said it looked a bit like this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU5RH3zaf2Y&feature=related

hehe.. I will never forget it.. I mean there are head shakes and wobbles which happen a fair bit.. and then there is what I had.. a mans tank slap. I gained a lot of respect for motorbikes that day.

ducatilover
12th December 2011, 00:00
hehe had a chuckle at that one as I remember one of the first decent hammerings I gave my, then new, blade around Govenors Bay rds in Chch.. fuckn thing nearly threw me off after going into a violent bump stop to bump stop tank slapper.. think the front wheel was hovering about 1/4 of an inch off the ground under accel and I think may have clipped some uneven patch of the road.. I don't really know what happend. I remember being wide open throttle laughing at the brutal acceleration of my new toy and then thinking fuck this is going wrong! man it was violent. didnt throw me off tho and stayed on the rd - someone was helping me out up above

fella behind me said it looked a bit like this.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU5RH3zaf2Y&feature=related

hehe.. I will never forget it.. I mean there are head shakes and wobbles which happen a fair bit.. and then there is what I had.. a mans tank slap. I gained a lot of respect for motorbikes that day.
Faaaark that's a bit mad!
I've had a few tank slaps too, on a bros650, I learned too slow though and fell off the second time...it was a decent one :cool: 252441 my fist made a sweet dent in the tank :stupid:

Fast Eddie
12th December 2011, 09:38
Faaaark that's a bit mad!
I've had a few tank slaps too, on a bros650, I learned too slow though and fell off the second time...it was a decent one :cool: 252441 my fist made a sweet dent in the tank :stupid:

haha, my knee has done that to several tanks as well in low sides.. good times :D looks painful bro!

SmokeU will be happy to know the that handlebar to tank clearance on the 'blades are enough to let you have a bump stop to bump stop tank slapper without damagin the tank ;)

hehe nah you'll be right.. I heard people fit steering dampers to the blades to settle em down but I don't think they need it

SMOKEU
12th December 2011, 10:59
I'll have a look for a front wheel off a CBR600 F2 to fit to a blade once I buy one as the 17" wheel is meant to make them less twitchy.

ducatilover
12th December 2011, 10:59
haha, my knee has done that to several tanks as well in low sides.. good times :D looks painful bro!

SmokeU will be happy to know the that handlebar to tank clearance on the 'blades are enough to let you have a bump stop to bump stop tank slapper without damagin the tank ;)

hehe nah you'll be right.. I heard people fit steering dampers to the blades to settle em down but I don't think they need it
They shouldn't need a damper if you ride it right or have it set up right (within reason :cool:)
I reckon I could do with a 'blade

Fast Eddie
12th December 2011, 14:30
They shouldn't need a damper if you ride it right or have it set up right (within reason :cool:)
I reckon I could do with a 'blade

haha.. everyone could do with one.

tigertim20
12th December 2011, 17:36
They shouldn't need a damper if you ride it right or have it set up right (within reason :cool:)
I reckon I could do with a 'blade

Dunno bout that man, dampers make a helluva difference when you're at the finer edge

jafar
12th December 2011, 18:11
So are you saying I shouldn't be looking for something with significantly more power than I can handle?!?!?! I thought that was the whole point of big sports bikes.

I'm saying that you'll be better off taking your time moving up. for the money you have to spend on your new bike you'll get a better machine for your money if you go up a size or two. Newer bike for the same $$.

Also you are coming off a learners bike, you have got some skill's ( I assume) but you still have some more to get . Going up to the SV 1000 or the CBR 900 as you stated was your intention in your first posts is too large a jump IMHO. All I'm advocating is to go through the range on your way to the bigger stuff. Too big too soon can have tragic consequences.........

Sports bikes are not known to be forgiving of rider error. Some of the other posters here have said as much. At the end of the day it is your decision & your alone.

jafar
12th December 2011, 18:36
Sweet as, count me in. I'm by no means a good rider so I need all the mentoring from more experienced riders that I can get.


I haven't binned a road bike yet. Several of my mates have binned bikes doing stupid shit and I don't want to end up like them so I take it easy.


You have a lot to learn noob. Lets hope you don't go and brake yourself like a lot of other people do who jump on powerful bikes with little or no experience. cause that always looks good to ACC, yea.

:facepalm:


That is a crock of shit.
I can agree that bigger isnt always better, but to say that 250-600 is too big for most people is bullshit. Really ??? I did qualify which 600 :cool:


There is no such thing as too big/too powerful, there is ONLY such thing as not enough self control. Know your limits and ride to the, whether you're on a ginny, or a 2011 zx10r, and you will be fine.
The point of getting something a little bigger is so that you have something you can grow into, learn from, and plot your progress as a rider. theres nothing wrong with that as long as you do so sensibly.

There we will have to disagree, there is such a thing as too big/too powerful, especially in this situation. Agree totally with you on knowing your limits & self control. Also agree on getting something a little bigger.

SMOKEU
12th December 2011, 18:44
Really ??? I did qualify which 600 :cool:



There we will have to disagree, there is such a thing as too big/too powerful, especially in this situation. Agree totally with you on knowing your limits & self control. Also agree on getting something a little bigger.

Better to have my attitude than the whole "I'm a totally awesome rider who can get my knee down on any corner and I'll beat you in a race easily because I'm so totally awesome". That kind of attitude is exactly why people end up hurting themselves on bikes, so I am always cautious, I know where my limits are, and I don't breach those limits.

I've seen too many people who think they're a much better rider than they really are end up crashing because they've pushed themselves too far. That's exactly why I admit I'm not a good rider, and have nothing to prove by showing off.

Ender EnZed
12th December 2011, 19:41
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-431024583.htm

Offer him something silly, it'll still save him the cost of getting it to Auckland.

SMOKEU
12th December 2011, 19:51
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-431024583.htm

Offer him something silly, it'll still save him the cost of getting it to Auckland.

Now that's tempting....Maybe I should try to get someone in Queenstown to go have a look at it for me.

Fast Eddie
12th December 2011, 20:05
I'll have a look for a front wheel off a CBR600 F2 to fit to a blade once I buy one as the 17" wheel is meant to make them less twitchy.

I wouldn't bother - :D ride it as Tadao Baba intended. I'm sure Honda spent millions on designing that bike its a sweet package just left alone. you can set the suspension up for your weight etc. that would prob be the best money spent. spend it with a pro though.

It handles sweet and the smaller front end makes the steering quick and its very easy to flick in 'S' bends etc.

Plus the front tyre is fatter on a wider rim, you run a 130 wide front.. if you go to a 17 you'll be using the recommended 120 wides.. that little fat front is mean man, it has so much grip up front its the back that lets you know if somethings happening and I'd rather the back tell me than the front..

if you ride it for a while and do find it too twitchy then I would rather you fitted a steering damper than lost its trade mark 16" front.. lord have mercy :devil2:

Fast Eddie
12th December 2011, 20:07
Now that's tempting....Maybe I should try to get someone in Queenstown to go have a look at it for me.

fuck bro, if you offered him 3,500 that would be sweet bang for buck aye.. 3,500 would still save him ferry cost and petrol etc.. ooo weee

Fast Eddie
12th December 2011, 20:13
I'll have a look for a front wheel off a CBR600 F2 to fit to a blade once I buy one as the 17" wheel is meant to make them less twitchy.

also, think I may have touched on this point before.. the bike was thought of as twitchy and fast steering in 1993..

I think its relative and by todays standards its fine.. (was ahead of its time you see :D :D )

It'll just feel like a big cbr250r.

I think you would think it was twitchy if you went from say a 90's FZR1000 onto a blade u might think ooo that steerings a bit quick..

I dunno.. buy one and ride it first :D... as you can all tell I love mine a bit too much

tigertim20
12th December 2011, 20:16
also, think I may have touched on this point before.. the bike was thought of as twitchy and fast steering in 1993..

I think its relative and by todays standards its fine.. (was ahead of its time you see :D :D )

It'll just feel like a big cbr250r.

I think you would think it was twitchy if you went from say a 90's FZR1000 onto a blade u might think ooo that steerings a bit quick..

I dunno.. buy one and ride it first :D... as you can all tell I love mine a bit too much

so...
how much commission do you get if smokeu buys a bike?

ducatilover
12th December 2011, 22:14
Dunno bout that man, dampers make a helluva difference when you're at the finer edge
"Within reason"
I can understand that there are a few bikes with poor handling traits, and uber grunty later model bikes. But, if you ride it on "the finer edge" I can understand. I lack the testicular girth for that.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-431024583.htm

Offer him something silly, it'll still save him the cost of getting it to Auckland. :niceone: That wins.

SMOKEU
12th December 2011, 22:51
What is the build quality like on those GSXR600s? I've heard it's not quite as well built as the Fireblade. Since I plan on being a poor student for the next 3 years, and because my mechanical knowledge is limited to basic servicing, I really can't afford to have something that keeps needing money spent on repairs. That GSXR600 in Queenstown looks like it's been well looked after and it's had all the expensive stuff done to it already.

One thing that put me off Suzukis is the fact that I was out for a ride on my old CBR with a mate who had a 1996 Bandit 250 when the clutch suddenly stopped working on his bike. We opened up the clutch cover on the side of the road and the actual clutch mechanism was a very thin piece of metal which had snapped. It was so thin it looked like it belonged on a cheap Chinese bike. It left the bike stranded which at the time had fewer than 15,000km on the clock. I wouldn't expect such an obvious oversight from a reputable brand.

Fast Eddie
12th December 2011, 23:00
so...
how much commission do you get if smokeu buys a bike?

haha you caught me.. I work for Honda.. :msn-wink:

onearmedbandit
12th December 2011, 23:02
Having owned a few GSXR's, including an SRAD, I can vouch for their reliability no end. Built-proof gearboxes and engines. Not saying they are faultless, but they are pretty damn good.

SMOKEU
12th December 2011, 23:05
Having owned a few GSXR's, including an SRAD, I can vouch for their reliability no end. Built-proof gearboxes and engines. Not saying they are faultless, but they are pretty damn good.

Is this one here http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-431024583.htm an SRAD model? I'll give the owner a ring and then I might fly to Queenstown since it's only $49 each way with Jetstar.

Fast Eddie
12th December 2011, 23:07
What is the build quality like on those GSXR600s? I've heard it's not quite as well built as the Fireblade. Since I plan on being a poor student for the next 3 years, and because my mechanical knowledge is limited to basic servicing, I really can't afford to have something that keeps needing money spent on repairs. That GSXR600 in Queenstown looks like it's been well looked after and it's had all the expensive stuff done to it already.

One thing that put me off Suzukis is the fact that I was out for a ride on my old CBR with a mate who had a 1996 Bandit 250 when the clutch suddenly stopped working on his bike. We opened up the clutch cover on the side of the road and the actual clutch mechanism was a very thin piece of metal which had snapped. It was so thin it looked like it belonged on a cheap Chinese bike. It left the bike stranded which at the time had fewer than 15,000km on the clock. I wouldn't expect such an obvious oversight from a reputable brand.

Tricky one.. Honda has that reputation of reliability.. probably well earned.

I do love mine alot, it needs as much maintenance as any bike though. I had to replace the cam chain this year.. 80 bucks incl gst I believe. and I change the oil and filter every 5,000 ish.. not that strict really. and I basically follow the honda service sched. have done valve clearance checks, fluid flushes etc but a good thing to note as during all this routine maintenance nothing has been out of order, the valves didnt need adjusting, the carbs were still balanced etc etc. 16" front tyres are a little tricky you don't have too much choice for cheapies. but they last longer than the rear :D

I'd summarize that I havent had to repair the blade and its never broken down on me yet (touch wood) but it requires routine maintenance like any bike.

Fast Eddie
12th December 2011, 23:09
Having owned a few GSXR's, including an SRAD, I can vouch for their reliability no end. Built-proof gearboxes and engines. Not saying they are faultless, but they are pretty damn good.

^ he knows how to ride them too! good to hear about the gearboxes, the blades gearbox has got that little rumour of being a bit weak. The engines are bulletproof though and I've had no trouble with my box yet, wheelies and amature gear shifts n all

Fast Eddie
12th December 2011, 23:10
Is this one here http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-431024583.htm an SRAD model? I'll give the owner a ring and then I might fly to Queenstown since it's only $49 each way with Jetstar.

yip looks like the SRAD, with the single seat cowl its got the classic whale tail :D

I like 'em, I'd have one has a 3rd bike :D

onearmedbandit
12th December 2011, 23:11
Yup, indeed it is. Bit of a head-bangers model the SRAD 600, love to be rev'ed, and really need to be rev'ed. Not a lot of mid-range pull but it is a (for it's time) a fast race rep.

Fast Eddie
12th December 2011, 23:14
I like the brake discs and the rev counter red light up/white back round

ducatilover
12th December 2011, 23:23
yip looks like the SRAD, with the single seat cowl its got the classic whale tail :D

I like 'em, I'd have one has a 3rd bike :D
They're hot! I'd own one as a second bike :cool:


Don't be put of Suzukis by a Bandit 250 clutch... My Honda Bros650 had a fucked clutch at 29,000km (with 71hp at the tyre, no wonder...)
My ZZR400 had a fucked clutch at near 70,000km (I think the last owner was an idiot rapist)

Fast Eddie
12th December 2011, 23:25
They're hot! I'd own one as a second bike :cool:


Don't be put of Suzukis by a Bandit 250 clutch... My Honda Bros650 had a fucked clutch at 29,000km (with 71hp at the tyre, no wonder...)
My ZZR400 had a fucked clutch at near 70,000km (I think the last owner was an idiot rapist)

hehe yea I was hesitating to add that I was left stranded during a ride on both my honda cbr250r and my cbr600f hehe.. but they were fairly neglected examples :D

any mechanical machine will do its job as long as you follow routine maintenance and look after it.

you'll be right mate! I'm watching this space for updates on the SRAD.. I think they go well on the track :D

imdying
13th December 2011, 09:46
Those SRAD 600s are super fun to ride, a real hoons bike. That's what it's all about in'it?

Fast Eddie
13th December 2011, 12:33
fuck yea they are cool, they used to be much more expensive so I could never afford one few years ago. blade was 3.5 back then and I think the srads were holding steady at 5-6k

p.s. where are all the dunedin riders at? soo sunny just clocked up 100 odd kms and only saw one other fella having a good time on his RSV Ape..

I'm looking at you drunken mistake.. tiger tim..

let me guess, you fellas have jobs and work? sad sad world..

ducatilover
13th December 2011, 12:51
let me guess, you fellas have jobs and work? sad sad world.. How does one have no job and afford a nice 'blade? I'm a student and can't afford to build my ZZR:no:

Fast Eddie
13th December 2011, 13:15
How does one have no job and afford a nice 'blade? I'm a student and can't afford to build my ZZR:no:

naww, guess my life choices :) I left school round 16/17 did that mechanic course at poly then apprenticeship and earned money/worked odd jobs til 21 then went to Uni eh, I'm at uni now but a bit older.. but in that gap I earned cash and bought toys :D I have more than a blade ;) hehe.. So i'm living a pretty good student life right now.. pretty happy :D

how is that zzr going? I read the other post, 400 frame with 600 engine is it? my welding teacher at tech chucked a 1000cc into a 600 frame.. don't know any details of it but I always like the idea of jamming big things into little things.. err :woohoo: the mrs knows what I mean

ducatilover
13th December 2011, 14:34
naww, guess my life choices :) I left school round 16/17 did that mechanic course at poly then apprenticeship and earned money/worked odd jobs til 21 then went to Uni eh, I'm at uni now but a bit older.. but in that gap I earned cash and bought toys :D I have more than a blade ;) hehe.. So i'm living a pretty good student life right now.. pretty happy :D

how is that zzr going? I read the other post, 400 frame with 600 engine is it? my welding teacher at tech chucked a 1000cc into a 600 frame.. don't know any details of it but I always like the idea of jamming big things into little things.. err :woohoo: the mrs knows what I mean
Nicely done, I seem to sell all my toys (21 or 22 cars,1 boat and 7 bikes at the age of 22...) and end up with bugger all.


ZZR Build: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/140857-ducatilover-s-squidtastic-pile-of-crap?p=1130214157#post1130214157

I (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/140857-ducatilover-s-squidtastic-pile-of-crap?p=1130214157#post1130214157) wouldn't mind a wee bit more than 600cc, but, I'm mad and want to finish this beast.

Might have to have a word with my missus about this cramming things into stuff talk

Fast Eddie
13th December 2011, 14:37
yip been following that thread, good work on the polishing. I have titanium headers on the blade, how would one polish those I wonder, they have gone all dull. I tried pretty hard with a metal polish paste and sand paper but it didnt do it.. I haven't polished anything before tho.

jeeez 22 cars? I def havent been running through toys like that :D had a lot of bikes though, the uninteresting ones come and go pretty quickly and plenty of unfinished projects that I passed on to someone else.

had a sweet turbo 550cc honda, that was a laugh to ride aye

ducatilover
13th December 2011, 14:42
Send them up here (with the bike attached and keys) I'll polish them....
CX550 Turbo? Coooooooooool!
I hate not finishing projects, some other cunt ruins it after you sell it off.

Fast Eddie
13th December 2011, 14:51
Send them up here (with the bike attached and keys) I'll polish them....
CX550 Turbo? Coooooooooool!
I hate not finishing projects, some other cunt ruins it after you sell it off.

hehe yea it was very cool, think there is one photo of it on my profile but a bit of a shit photo really. I should have kept it but started another project and had my fun on it. Might do another tho, riding a turbo bike is just hilarious. waaapish, waaaaaAAAAAA pish.

lol, where is bunnythorpe? is that even a real place.. think i might leave the headers for now :D im the only one that cares if they are shiny or not im sure

Fast Eddie
13th December 2011, 14:53
CX550 Turbo? Coooooooooool!


oh also wasnt the original CX550 nah, was a CB550 and bolted on a subaru legacy turbo, got a custom ecu and some other shit and she flewww

ducatilover
13th December 2011, 15:08
Bunnythorpe is just through the looking glass, to the left and no-fucking-where...

Fast Eddie
13th December 2011, 15:22
oh yea, been there on acid.

I googled it like a champ

bikaholic
13th December 2011, 20:08
Bunnythorpe is just through the looking glass, to the left and no-fucking-where...I thought it was behind the back straight of Manfeild.

ducatilover
13th December 2011, 20:33
I thought it was behind the back straight of Manfeild.<_< Shhh we don't want strangers in this humble town.

SMOKEU
14th December 2011, 16:15
Sweet, I just bought myself a GSXR600. It's arriving early January. :rolleyes:

sil3nt
14th December 2011, 16:17
Sweet, I just bought myself a GSXR600. It's arriving early January. :rolleyes:Why so long?

SMOKEU
14th December 2011, 16:23
Why so long?

The old lady won't let me ride back from Queenstown and the seller advertised the bike with free shipping anywhere between Queenstown and Auckland.

sil3nt
14th December 2011, 16:25
The old lady won't let me ride back from Queenstown and the seller advertised the bike with free shipping anywhere between Queenstown and Auckland.Tell the old lady your going down the road to get some milk....see you in a few days...:laugh:

Free shipping is nice. Congrats on your purchase.

Ender EnZed
14th December 2011, 16:32
Sweet, I just bought myself a GSXR600. It's arriving early January. :rolleyes:

Nice. How much did you end up getting it for?

SMOKEU
14th December 2011, 16:35
Nice. How much did you end up getting it for?

$4k. I've got just over $2k worth of receipts for recent work done to it and it comes with a paddock stand.

sil3nt
14th December 2011, 16:38
$4k. I've got just over $2k worth of receipts for recent work done to it and it comes with a paddock stand.I am Jelly.

imdying
14th December 2011, 16:47
Nice, they're fun :D

onearmedbandit
14th December 2011, 16:55
Awesome Chris, I'm sure you'll love it!

Ender EnZed
14th December 2011, 17:01
$4k. I've got just over $2k worth of receipts for recent work done to it and it comes with a paddock stand.

That's a decent buy if it's not hiding anything. Have fun and don't bin it. :niceone:

ducatilover
14th December 2011, 17:15
Sweet, I just bought myself a GSXR600. It's arriving early January. :rolleyes:
:niceone: Choice! Pics when it arrives dude!

tigertim20
14th December 2011, 18:31
The old lady won't let me ride back from Queenstown and the seller advertised the bike with free shipping anywhere between Queenstown and Auckland.

If it helps you get it faster, I am happy to go over and get it, and bring it as far as dunedin, if not further. - legitimate offer. I bet youll find someone willing to at least trailer it to chch from dunnaz for you.

there is a locked garage it could be stored in too if you wanted to come down and ride it from here.

PM me if you're interested.

Fast Eddie
14th December 2011, 19:54
If it helps you get it faster, I am happy to go over and get it, and bring it as far as dunedin, if not further. - legitimate offer. I bet youll find someone willing to at least trailer it to chch from dunnaz for you.

there is a locked garage it could be stored in too if you wanted to come down and ride it from here.

PM me if you're interested.

if tiger tim gets it to me here in Dunedin, I can ride it up from Dunedin to Chch this monday the 19th..

I was going to ride my blade up and leave it at my mrs parents cause me and the mrs are flying up north for xmas/new years and leaving ex chch. shes bussing up on friday and I was going to ride up monday on my bike but happy to take the gsxr up instead. Its open offer :D

Ragingrob
14th December 2011, 20:08
What year ya get? Fuel inject??

tigertim20
14th December 2011, 20:22
if tiger tim gets it to me here in Dunedin, I can ride it up from Dunedin to Chch this monday the 19th..

I was going to ride my blade up and leave it at my mrs parents cause me and the mrs are flying up north for xmas/new years and leaving ex chch. shes bussing up on friday and I was going to ride up monday on my bike but happy to take the gsxr up instead. Its open offer :D

Im liking this aye

SMOKEU
14th December 2011, 20:53
What year ya get? Fuel inject??

1998 carburetted.

Thanks for the offers of riding it up here guys, but I've already arranged with the owner to ride up as he wants to do a road trip on it. I've paid my deposit and signed the contract. It's only a couple of weeks anyway. In the mean time I've got my TS185 project that needs my attention.

Fast Eddie
14th December 2011, 21:09
yea, was thinkin if its comin up in Jan thats only like 2 weeks away now haha..

Exciting shit! you're gonna love it.

SMOKEU
14th December 2011, 21:37
yea, was thinkin if its comin up in Jan thats only like 2 weeks away now haha..

Exciting shit! you're gonna love it.

Just as well I have a dirt bike for when I lose my license, which is inevitable once I start riding :laugh:

Fast Eddie
14th December 2011, 21:48
I may have lost mine ercough4cough times now for speeding on a bike.. they'll get ya! better to do it on the port hills.. its the only place I felt safe doubling the spee..err.. cruising.

Fast Eddie
14th December 2011, 21:48
mmspeedings bad mmm'kayy

tigertim20
14th December 2011, 21:54
mmspeedings bad mmm'kayy

I bought a thousand cc sportsbike to ride everywhere sensibly.


:Police:

Fast Eddie
14th December 2011, 21:55
I bought a thousand cc sportsbike to ride everywhere sensibly.


:Police:

haha bingo..

righto I'm off to bed. got alotta Aprilia to strip tmoro

scracha
15th December 2011, 20:49
$4k. I've got just over $2k worth of receipts for recent work done to it and it comes with a paddock stand.

And a lockwired sump plug.....


Suzuki....guess you'll not be riding it in winter then?

SMOKEU
15th December 2011, 21:06
And a lockwired sump plug.....


Suzuki....guess you'll not be riding it in winter then?

I certainly will be riding it in winter as I sold my car to buy it. I don't have the money for another vehicle so it will be my only mode of transport apart from my push bike.

I'll be staying away from the hills in winter though as I hate riding road bikes on gravel.

scracha
16th December 2011, 07:43
I certainly will be riding it in winter as I sold my car to buy it. I don't have the money for another vehicle so it will be my only mode of transport apart from my push bike.

I'll be staying away from the hills in winter though as I hate riding road bikes on gravel.

So you want a reliable machine with a good finish for year round riding in all weather conditions? And you bought a GSXR600. BAHWHHAHAHAHWHAHA
Good luck, you'll need it

onearmedbandit
16th December 2011, 09:22
So you want a reliable machine with a good finish for year round riding in all weather conditions? And you bought a GSXR600. BAHWHHAHAHAHWHAHA
Good luck, you'll need it

Ok I'll bite. All my gixxers including an SRAD have given me faultless service year round and have a decent quality of finish. I take it you've owned a few as well to form your opinion.

SVboy
16th December 2011, 13:10
So you want a reliable machine with a good finish for year round riding in all weather conditions? And you bought a GSXR600. BAHWHHAHAHAHWHAHA
Good luck, you'll need it

I, too am watching this ill informed troll with interest....

Usarka
16th December 2011, 14:04
The old lady won't let me ride back from Queenstown and the seller advertised the bike with free shipping anywhere between Queenstown and Auckland.

Not allowed??? Does not compute!

SMOKEU
16th December 2011, 14:32
I, too am watching this ill informed troll with interest....

They can't be that bad, I see you have 2 Suzukis.

scracha
16th December 2011, 20:55
Ok I'll bite. All my gixxers including an SRAD have given me faultless service year round and have a decent quality of finish. I take it you've owned a few as well to form your opinion.

I've owned multiple bikes from all the Jap 4. If you've owned a Honda or (newish) Yamaha then you'll know the real meaning of "quality of finish" and reliability. I won't "troll" this thread again with stories about the second rate bike from the second rate Jap 4 manufacturers.

ducatilover
16th December 2011, 21:03
I've owned multiple bikes from all the Jap 4. If you've owned a Honda or (newish) Yamaha then you'll know the real meaning of "quality of finish" and reliability. I won't "troll" this thread again with stories about the second rate bike from the second rate Jap 4 manufacturers.
I'm interested in hearing as they're on my list for the next proper bike

Fast Eddie
16th December 2011, 21:24
I'm interested in hearing as they're on my list for the next proper bike

happy to take photos of my 1997 blade to compare with someones 97 suzuki :D hehe.. mine looks pretty mint if I say so myself, no surface rust, no rusty looking hardware/fastners anywhere. original paint.. and its spent the year outside down here in dunedin, through the snow, hail, dirt/road works everyday riding past the new stadium etc etc. its my daily commuter. plenty of rain and mud and grime. still looks nice :D

my aprilia on the other hand :no: rusty and grimey.. and its prob spent its whole life in the garage and never ridden in the rain haha.

ducatilover
16th December 2011, 22:04
happy to take photos of my 1997 blade to compare with someones 97 suzuki :D hehe.. mine looks pretty mint if I say so myself, no surface rust, no rusty looking hardware/fastners anywhere. original paint.. and its spent the year outside down here in dunedin, through the snow, hail, dirt/road works everyday riding past the new stadium etc etc. its my daily commuter. plenty of rain and mud and grime. still looks nice :D

my aprilia on the other hand :no: rusty and grimey.. and its prob spent its whole life in the garage and never ridden in the rain haha.

The 'blade is on the list too :niceone:
I think an SRAD 750 is better suited on the list than a 600 though.

Fast Eddie
17th December 2011, 08:24
The 'blade is on the list too :niceone:
I think an SRAD 750 is better suited on the list than a 600 though.

yea 750 is a good size, I had an older zxr750.. loooved it. Wish i had kept it but when offered 3.5k cash for it I couldn't refuse (bought for 1,000 neat :D )

Munterman
21st January 2012, 14:48
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The SV1000S that would fit into my price bracket would be around a 2003-2004 model, which is fuel injected, and since it has half the number of cylinders as the CBR I figure there are fewer things to go wrong with it and tune ups and repairs should be cheaper on the twin. The SV will also be more modern than the CBR900/919RR which would be mid-late 1990's.

I want something that is easy to handle, easy to throw into a corner (for a big bike), something with safe, predictable handling and also something that is reliable as it will be my only vehicle and I can't afford to spend huge money on repairs. I don't mind an aggressive, lean over the tank riding position either. Are fully faired bikes more comfortable on the open road, and are they better when riding in cold or bad weather conditions?
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SMOKEU
21st January 2012, 17:29
try these - all good value, good models. Ride safe


I already scored a GSXR600, but cheers anyway.

Sliver
24th January 2012, 17:10
smoke i might get a gsx600 to how do you find it?

SMOKEU
24th January 2012, 20:29
smoke i might get a gsx600 to how do you find it?

It's gutless at low to medium revs. Once it gets up to 10,000RPM it's pretty damn quick and very fun! It really needs a lot of revs to get going and you'll be doing a lot of gear changing. Mine is absolutely terrible around town, it's hard to even pull away slowly and smoothly from a set of traffic lights because it's got a Yoshi MJN jet kit which just dumps fuel in. With the standard jets they're apparently not bad around town. Handling is very good, although mine has an Ohlins rear end so that only makes it better.

Quality wise it's not as good as a Honda. The bike looks cheaply made. The ignition barrel looks like it's made from a soft metal as it's a bit damaged, the chain tensioner lock nuts have rounded off, and it does have minor quality issues like Suzuki's do. The mechanicals on these bikes are pretty damn good so they don't tend to go bang or anything like that.

Overall I'm very happy with mine and it's such a delightfully easy bike to flick into a corner and has more than enough power for the long straights. It has nice predictable handling and feels very stable on the road compared to my old CBR250R.

ducatilover
24th January 2012, 21:22
Get it re-jetted man.

SMOKEU
24th January 2012, 21:28
Get it re-jetted man.

I've checked on the gixxer forums and they reckon it's normal to have that happen with the Yoshi MJN kit as it was designed more for track than road use. Once it gets above 3500-4000RPM it runs very well. It doesn't really worry me too much as I do very little riding around town.

ducatilover
24th January 2012, 21:52
No need to rev it that low I suppose, it's a 4cyl after all. Even my lazier ZZR600 didn't spend much time at those revs.
I think we need vids.

Ender EnZed
24th January 2012, 22:12
smoke i might get a gsx600 to how do you find it?

It might be of interest to you...

I rode a K7 GSXR600 at a dealer with a stock pipe (so probably the way Mr Suzuki intended) a couple of years ago and really wasn't too impressed with the midrange power. From 100km/h in 6th it felt like a real slug compared to my '86 VFR750 (with stock pipe, gearing and jetting). It wasn't until 10k rpm that it felt like it matched my ancient Honda 750 at 7.5k rpm, consequently I can't imagine a SRAD 600 being much fun on the road without feeling like a criminal. ('Course it sounded better than sex at 16k rpm, but that wasn't til 170km/h in 2nd) If I had a bit more money than $4k to play with then I wouldn't buy a SRAD 600 without riding at least a SRAD 750 and a CBR600 F4 (or later) as well.

SMOKEU
25th January 2012, 00:05
It might be of interest to you...

I rode a K7 GSXR600 at a dealer with a stock pipe (so probably the way Mr Suzuki intended) a couple of years ago and really wasn't too impressed with the midrange power. From 100km/h in 6th it felt like a real slug compared to my '86 VFR750 (with stock pipe, gearing and jetting). It wasn't until 10k rpm that it felt like it matched my ancient Honda 750 at 7.5k rpm, consequently I can't imagine a SRAD 600 being much fun on the road without feeling like a criminal. ('Course it sounded better than sex at 16k rpm, but that wasn't til 170km/h in 2nd) If I had a bit more money than $4k to play with then I wouldn't buy a SRAD 600 without riding at least a SRAD 750 and a CBR600 F4 as well.

Unfortunately with not much mid range, it can be either ridden slowly or pretty damn fast, just like my 2 stroke. I'm going -1 on the front sprocket soon anyway, so that should help it slightly. In saying that, it is a very fun bike to thrash, but thrash it and this happens: :scooter::shit::Police::chase::Police::spanking::c rybaby::brick: Not that I've ever tried that on a public road. It gets up to "lose your license on the spot for 28 days and walk home" speed pretty quickly.

baffa
26th January 2012, 11:42
That seems to be the way with 600s. The CBR900 has impressive low and mid range pull, but you can thank an extra 300ccs.