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george formby
5th November 2011, 11:03
How long does it take to take your motor out....? :blink:


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vifferman
5th November 2011, 18:51
Very impressive, but given I've never heard of it, it was obviously a commercial failure.

Laava
6th November 2011, 21:45
Hhhhyesssss quite so Mr Cholmondely Warner!

PeteJ
7th November 2011, 11:48
Yeah, never productionised; I believe there's one in the NMM.

jellywrestler
7th November 2011, 15:17
Yeah, never productionised; I believe there's one in the NMM.
Wooler made bikes much earlier than this the NMM one is the model nicknamed the flying banana

PeteJ
7th November 2011, 20:36
Oh, yeah, Spyda - Mr Wooler was designing the weird and wonderful way back in your earliest preferred days ie around WW I.

I think the "FB" Wooler in the NMM is one of the later, redesigned version of the one in the first post on this thread, is that right? He abandoned the beam/coupled conrods, I believe.

maggot
7th November 2011, 21:03
Man, that hand-pump concealed in the footpeg had me going 'oooooooooh!'
Cool little touches!

Brian d marge
7th November 2011, 23:08
Wonder why it never flew ? looked to weird for Chummily warner?

Stephen

ducatilover
8th November 2011, 01:36
Call me odd, but I think that looks great.
Very cool bit of kit!

nudemetalz
11th November 2011, 09:03
Yes I agree, the neat touch's meant the designer really thought about the owner of the bike.

Paul in NZ
11th November 2011, 14:09
Yes I agree, the neat touch's meant the designer really thought about the owner of the bike.

Frankly thats a sure fire way for a motorcycle maker to go bust.

During the 'classic' period the makers listened to what the buying public 'said' they wanted and we got bathtub enclosures, the Vincient Black Knight / prince 'horror', Yamaha GTS, Honda Rune and all sorts of commercial flops. GaH!

I appreciate what Mr W was trying to do but all his bikes were just plain ugly.....

Also - I wonder if Mr Wooler was the origin of the term 'wooly thinking'

dangerous
11th November 2011, 14:39
yeah but, frame as exhaust... cool and that engine configeration, flat twin crank four? :niceone: love this way of thinking, kinda like the NR750 LOL

Brian d marge
11th November 2011, 15:31
Frankly thats a sure fire way for a motorcycle maker to go bust.

During the 'classic' period the makers listened to what the buying public 'said' they wanted and we got bathtub enclosures, the Vincient Black Knight / prince 'horror', Yamaha GTS, Honda Rune and all sorts of commercial flops. GaH!

I appreciate what Mr W was trying to do but all his bikes were just plain ugly.....

Also - I wonder if Mr Wooler was the origin of the term 'wooly thinking'

do you remember Homer Simpson designing the car......Im a fan of simplification, and parts doiing more than one job, ...i suppose the looks would grow on you


but its a consumer society now , must turn over product , cant have minions repairing things ...if they do we will charge em for it ,,,,


( side note and completely unrelated , but the womn if front of me has awesome legs ....fk me ....oh well i cn only dream )


as you were


Stephen

marty
11th November 2011, 16:11
shafty, 100mpg. 2 spanners to take out the engine. how far have we come?

bogan
11th November 2011, 16:32
That's really cool, tank flowing into the headlight looks neat!

Paul in NZ
11th November 2011, 17:14
That's really cool, tank flowing into the headlight looks neat!

I never liked it... I've got a write up here someplace from the 1950's or summat

Wooler was killed off in the depression really and before that is when they really made a 'production' model. After the war there was a prototype 500 cc transverse four shaft drive (beam type engine with the cylinders set above one) It showed up at the Earls Court show in 1948 and again in 1951.

According to my book it never ran properly and in 1954 showed a different transverse flat four, air-cooled with shaft drive. No more than five are thought to have been built before the company closed in 1956 after Wooler's death. God knows how many still exist....

flyingcrocodile46
19th November 2011, 11:06
Makes me wonder why a manufacturer would do that. Seems to me that the logical conclusion is that it is a good idea (real handy) if the motor needs frequent rebuilds, but begs the question, how often is the engine going to need a rebuild?

bogan
19th November 2011, 11:10
Makes me wonder why a manufacturer would do that. Seems to me that the logical conclusion is that it is a good idea (real handy) if the motor needs frequent rebuilds, but begs the question, how often is the engine going to need a rebuild?

When it's that easy to take out, you may as well do it when you do the monthly clean! Get those hard to reach spots :yes:

Motu
19th November 2011, 11:35
Makes me wonder why a manufacturer would do that.

The public still hasn't woken up to planned obsolescence and are still hooked into the system of getting the latest model when it comes out. Any manufacturer who has tried to build in long life and ease of maintenance and part replacement has gone under. We don't want sensible,we want flash and new....we want what others can't afford yet...it gives us a sense of worth.

Brian d marge
19th November 2011, 12:05
The public still hasn't woken up to planned obsolescence and are still hooked into the system of getting the latest model when it comes out. Any manufacturer who has tried to build in long life and ease of maintenance and part replacement has gone under. We don't want sensible,we want flash and new....we want what others can't afford yet...it gives us a sense of worth.

I prsent to you the new improved



Royal Enfield , no with ....one new model

Stephen

but its true what u say