Kid passenger on a bike?

[slofox]

Wasn't quite sure what to make of this one...

Waiting at the lights and this dude comes by across the intersection on his bike.

He had what looked like a toddler (small kid anyway) seated in front of him on the front of the seat/back of the tank. Being a sprotbike, he was leaned forward, thereby kinda surrounding the kid. The kid had ATG on - looked quite safe in principal.

But I wondered what would happen if the ride went tits-up.

I used to pillion my son when he was about 5/6. But I sat him on the back where he could reach the footpegs etc etc.

Doubt I'd want to have a wee kid in front of me on the bike. And I suspect that Mr Plod might take a dim view of it all.

Waddaya think?

[SMOKEU]

It's probably not something I'd attempt.

[slofox]

It's probably not something I'd attempt.

Yeah. Kinda how I thought of it.

[5150]

Yeah. Kinda how I thought of it.

He could get done for molesting children...<_<

But seriously, I'd be worried if he had to brake hard and squash the little fellow......:shit:

[slofox]

He could get done for molesting children...<_<

But seriously, I'd be worried if he had to brake hard and squash the little fellow......:shit:

I'd be more worried about the kid bouncing along the road and under an oncoming 96 wheeled semi-trailer if we arsed off...

[sugilite]

I did this when my kids were kindergarten age, I preferred them being on the front as I always worried they may fall off the back! I did this with all 4 of my kids with no problems. Cops never stopped me, though I'd say it's not strictly legal to do. Naturally I left acres of following distance and my eyes were on stalks. I could go home two ways, one past the dairy (yes I'm a sucker) and the other I termed the "motorbike way" with loads more corners, they always chose the motorbike way:wari: Funnily enough, on rainy days in the car, it was always the "dairy" way <_<

[5150]

I'd be more worried about the kid bouncing along the road and under an oncoming 96 wheeled semi-trailer if we arsed off...

True that....

[HalfAKiwi]

That's how they move whole families in Africa and South East Asia!

I was very impressed when the Thai owner of the guesthouse we stayed at showed me how he transported his 2 year old on his scooter. They have special seats that kind of clip on somehow (don't ask me how it is installed) so the little one has sort of a mini-seat in front of the real seat, just much smaller and a bit lower. The kid holds on to the handlebar. That way he still has space for his wife and/or the other kid to go on the back.

They're quite inventive in the developing world, and in Africa they just pile the whole family on a 125, granny, baby and all, wherever there's some space.

In saying that, I don't have a baby myself (yet, but soon) but I don't think I would attempt that?!

[manxkiwi]

When I were a nipper (quite some time ago!! Ahem). I got a few rides sitting on tank with my feet over the headlight (440/4 and CD175, bikes like that) holding on to the handlebars. Mind, there wasn't much on road then. Was only around the block too.

Would be hard to condone it nowadys, especially on busy roads.

[Spearfish]

I thought the pillion had to ride at the rear only and reach the pegs or be secured?

[iYRe]

The law states they have to be able to hold on and to be able to reach the footpegs.

I take my daughter to preschool most days on the back of my cruiser. I have "love handles" that go around my stomach for her to hold on to, and a set of pegs raised up so she can sit on them and brace.

She's 4.5 - but I wouldnt probably go further than a km or 2 till she is a bit older (preschool is 1.5 km away)

[White trash]

When Eddy aquired one Mr Bugdens championship winning Superbike at the end of 08, I was charged with getting it repainted and spruced up for the LG team. I took the opportunity to take 8 month old Keiran for a slow cruise up and down our couldesac on the NZ Championship Superbike, which I thught was cool. So did Keiran. Nothing faster than brisk walking pace.

The friendly police officer that just happened to be investigating a burglary accross the road didn't think it quite as cool. Still farily nice about it though, no tickets.

Got a photo somewhere.

[george formby]

My first forays on two wheels were perched on the tank of a trials bike, got my first helmet at 5 so I could sit on the back of a brand spanking RD 400 which my old man wheelied mercilessly, he took a lot of pleasure in scaring the $h!t out of me. I can still remember as a toddler on a trike being chased by him on a Dot scrambler:shit: Probably my first memory.

Not sure I would go too far on a pubic road with a sprogg on the tank, though. Just in case.....

[jscottbowman]

My guess is this would be viewed illegal by police.

I am fairly sure pillion has to be on a proper seat, and be able to reach footpegs. And obviously wear a helmet but that goes without saying.
I deliberately waited till my kids could do just that, here's a link to my hobby blog, with a few pics at the bottom:
Warning - this is my non-cool (in biker terms anyway?) geeky hobby, you have been warned! ;-)
http://scottswargaming.blogspot.com/2011/10/fistful-of-excuses.html

[Gremlin]

Got a photo somewhere.
Pah, that's nothing for you. Where's that pic that went international of you on the quad :killingme

[skippa1]

the legalities.......<_<not sure the cops would like it and Im pretty sure they have to be able to touch the pegs. But bouncing down the road:oi-grr:a littleies noggin wont sustain that so well helmet or not:blink:

[slofox]

I have "love handles" that go around my stomach...

Soooo...are you a member of the FBMC then..? :whistle:

[Toffee]

Was sent this pic. You'd want to hang on to the bucket!

[Oakie]

Police would probably take a dim view but I guess I can't throw stones...

250343

Oh, this was just off our driveway at the end of the cul-de-sac in which we live so isn't as naughty as it looks.

[Renegade]

i dont know, i think that if you struck a reasonable copper that in the time place and circumstances, and your riding was sweet, werent going far, then it prob wouldnt be such an issue.

then again when was the last time that happened these days.

[iYRe]

Soooo...are you a member of the FBMC then..? :whistle:

well.. i used to be 210 kg... 115 now :P

The law is.. They have to have a helmet, be able to hold on and put their feet on pegs. That's it :P

[baptist]

Police would probably take a dim view but I guess I can't throw stones...

250343

Oh, this was just off our driveway at the end of the cul-de-sac in which we live so isn't as naughty as it looks.

Actually it is terrible... you took that poor innocent child on a Hondaaaaarrrggghhhhh :bleh:

[ckai]

See, I've often thought about the "minimum age" I would take my kids on my bike. I suppose if a kid if old enough to understand "hang on for your life" then that's the first step. It's funny that when they're young and in a car they need more safety protection then any other person in the car, i.e. 5 point harness. But on a bike it's the same as the rider. It seems as bikers, we decide ourselves when it's safe to carry kids and how to carry them with minimal influence from the law. Makes a refreshing change.

I still reckon I wouldn't take my kid on the bike until they can ride their own. Then it'll be on the back. But I can kinda see the logic of putting them on the front all "cacooned" up. The biggest issue for me would be forking over all that cash for decent gear only to have them grow out of it within 2-3 years!