Biggles in Germany!

[Biggles08]

Ok...so I have been given this opportunity to race in the German Hokenheim 1000km endurance race in April 2012. I have been invited to be one of two racers to race a BMW S1000RR at this event. I need to be able to present myself in Germany to compete.

Problem is my budget (and my sponsors budget) is over 100% as it is competing here in the New Zealand Tri-Series and National Championship. Sooooo.... I am putting it out there for suggestions on who might be in a financial position to assist in making this happen. Any ideas or contributions greatly received!

Its not often an opportunity like this comes about for an old fella like me so I would like to give it a good nudge at trying to raise the funds required to compete. I'm picking on initial thoughts, the cost will be approximately between $6k - $8k to make it happen.

post away.... :niceone:

[oneofsix]

Biggles in Germany. :niceone:

:Offtopic: I know but the irony of your title is just too good to miss, sorry. I suppose most who know the character Biggles would be forgiven for thinking it was originally British rather than German.

Wish you all the best with raising the dosh. Sorry I can't be helpful with that.

[Biggles08]

:Offtopic: I know but the irony of your title is just too good to miss, sorry. I suppose most who know the character Biggles would be forgiven for thinking it was originally British rather than German.

Wish you all the best with raising the dosh. Sorry I can't be helpful with that.

Hopefully its a new edition to the series :-) :bleh:

[Kiwi Graham]

Sweet talking the old bank manager or raping a credit card out of the question?
What have you got that you can sell?

Debt is a young racers friend mate, I think we will all have been there.......some longer ago than others mind ;)

[Biggles08]

Sweet talking the old bank manager or raping a credit card out of the question?
What have you got that you can sell?

Debt is a young racers friend mate, I think we will all have been there.......some longer ago than others mind ;)

Ahem....I am currently in excess of my 100% spend! Both these avenues are exhausted my friend! I'll be selling my spare racebike following the Nationals so that would help...although the $$ should go to repaying some debts! ha!

[oneofsix]

Hopefully its a new edition to the series :-) :bleh:

Look at that Biggles fly around those German Tracks :niceone::clap:

Have you thought about an approach to the European Multi-nationals that operate in NZ, like Siemens. Alcatel-Lucent etc. They might be interested in the pan Europe NZ angle and do sponsor sports.

[Biggles08]

Look at that Biggles fly around those German Tracks :niceone::clap:

Have you thought about an approach to the European Multi-nationals that operate in NZ, like Siemens. Alcatel-Lucent etc. They might be interested in the pan Europe NZ angle and do sponsor sports.

Yeah I have approached most corporates prior to this opportunity but to be honest most need to justify specific returns for $$$ up front. Hard to do that with a corporate in the motorcycling community as it stands today. Not impossible, just difficult. We are working on this avenue.

[onearmedbandit]

Sweet talking the old bank manager or raping a credit card out of the question?
What have you got that you can sell?

Debt is a young racers friend mate, I think we will all have been there.......some longer ago than others mind ;)

I think he said his budget and that of his sponsor is already over 100%. Maybe he could go rob a bank like that guy from the Toyota series did here a few years back.

[CHOPPA]

I think he said his budget and that of his sponsor is already over 100%. Maybe he could go rob a bank like that guy from the Toyota series did here a few years back.

I think that was an armoured car? Either way it very tempting!

[Ivan]

have you considered pulling out of nationals and tri series if this event is what you want?

[CHOPPA]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/39083/Racing-car-driver-to-stand-trial-for-robbery

[steveyb]

Hi Marcus.
I think I am with Ivan on this one. I know, heaven forbid.......

Unfortunately it is probably too late to get monies back etc on stuff already bought, but not doing the Tri-Series would at least save money.
Not doing Nats, at least Sth Is, is another story, but would probably leave you with that sort of budget.
Ultimately when a plan and budget are set and then another opportunity comes along most people need to drop something to take up the new thing rather than be able to do all of them.
Cheers
Steve

[Scouse]

Ok...so I have been given this opportunity to race in the German Hokenheim 1000km endurance race in April 2012. I have been invited to be one of two racers to race a BMW S1000RR at this event. I need to be able to present myself in Germany to compete.

Problem is my budget (and my sponsors budget) is over 100% as it is competing here in the New Zealand Tri-Series and National Championship. Sooooo.... I am putting it out there for suggestions on who might be in a financial position to assist in making this happen. Any ideas or contributions greatly received!

Its not often an opportunity like this comes about for an old fella like me so I would like to give it a good nudge at trying to raise the funds required to compete. I'm picking on initial thoughts, the cost will be approximately between $6k - $8k to make it happen.

post away.... :niceone:ever thought of living within your means instead of asking others to pay your way for you

[Biggles08]

Hi Marcus.
I think I am with Ivan on this one. I know, heaven forbid.......

Unfortunately it is probably too late to get monies back etc on stuff already bought, but not doing the Tri-Series would at least save money.
Not doing Nats, at least Sth Is, is another story, but would probably leave you with that sort of budget.
Ultimately when a plan and budget are set and then another opportunity comes along most people need to drop something to take up the new thing rather than be able to do all of them.
Cheers
Steve

That's all fine and good IF you didn't already have commitments to both those series and people supporting you for them. I will always look after my existing sponsors before any other event / championship is considered. Sponsors are hard to come by as it stands and if you go reneging on current commitments for some personal gain it tends to leave a bad taste in a sponsors mouth!

I will be doing the Tri-Series and the National championship as I have committed to many sponsors to do so.

Good idea tho and was worth mentioning.

[Biggles08]

ever thought of living within your means instead of asking others to pay your way for you

Now thats really helpful Scouse!?! You obviously have no idea WTF you are talking about.

[CHOPPA]

ever thought of living within your means instead of asking others to pay your way for you

Unfortunately racing at the top level as a privateer and living within your means are two completely different things.

I agree with Ivan, maybe its a big ask to do it all

[NinjaNanna]

find the guy messing with your stuff at the track and blackmail him?

2 birds, 1 stone and all that

[RobGassit]

Sounds like the chance of a lifetime buddy. Make it happen. Can I suggest starting a raffle for your race bike. You may need to get a permit for such a costly item but at $25 to $50 a ticket I know I would buy a couple and I'm sure plenty of others would too. I have also seen racers list themselves on Trademe as an Auction to help a Kiwi kick arse. That might be worth a shot. I wouldn't mind a ticket to win your trailer either now I think about it. Selling stickers for gold coin donations works for Ronald Mcdonald House. You could get a friendly printer to bust you out some Biggles Supporter Bumper stickers. Go for it fella!

[Biggles08]

Sounds like the chance of a lifetime buddy. Make it happen. Can I suggest starting a raffle for your race bike. You may need to get a permit for such a costly item but at $25 to $50 a ticket I know I would buy a couple and I'm sure plenty of others would too. I have also seen racers list themselves on Trademe as an Auction to help a Kiwi kick arse. That might be worth a shot. I wouldn't mind a ticket to win your trailer either now I think about it. Selling stickers for gold coin donations works for Ronald Mcdonald House. You could get a friendly printer to bust you out some Biggles Supporter Bumper stickers. Go for it fella!

All good suggestions and worth considering! :niceone:

[gixerracer]

Read between the lines people he wants us to pay for it not him. CAKE NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM. No you cant.'
Get a job you bum get 3 of them like i did so I could race over seas

[Biggles08]

Read between the lines people he wants us to pay for it not him. CAKE NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM. No you cant.'
Get a job you bum get 3 of them like i did so I could play in the sand over seas

Fixed it for you

[Shaun]

Ok...so I have been given this opportunity to race in the German Hokenheim 1000km endurance race in April 2012. I have been invited to be one of two racers to race a BMW S1000RR at this event. I need to be able to present myself in Germany to compete.

Problem is my budget (and my sponsors budget) is over 100% as it is competing here in the New Zealand Tri-Series and National Championship. Sooooo.... I am putting it out there for suggestions on who might be in a financial position to assist in making this happen. Any ideas or contributions greatly received!

Its not often an opportunity like this comes about for an old fella like me so I would like to give it a good nudge at trying to raise the funds required to compete. I'm picking on initial thoughts, the cost will be approximately between $6k - $8k to make it happen.

post away.... :niceone:




Re Morgage your house if you want it bad enough, or just keep cruising around in NZ

[Shaun]

Ahem....I am currently in excess of my 100% spend! Both these avenues are exhausted my friend! I'll be selling my spare racebike following the Nationals so that would help...although the $$ should go to repaying some debts! ha!


What the F do you a need a spare bike for??? Look at Stoud Shirrifs etc

[Shaun]

have you considered pulling out of nationals and tri series if this event is what you want?


Very intelligent reply Buddy

[Biggles08]

What the F do you a need a spare bike for??? Look at Stoud Shirrifs etc

It will only be "spare" after my #1 bike has finished being rebuilt...then my "spare" is for sale again (to repay the debt on it). Right now its what I'm racing to get some track time prior to tri series and Nats. I find it amusing that so many people on KB think everything that has been achieved at Biggles Racing has been easy going and handed to me on a platter (I'm not specifically referring to you here shaun). If you want something bad enough you commit to it. I can assure you we are very committed in our team!

As for re mortgage the house....been there done that. Like my op says, I like my sponsor are already over 100% committed to NZ racing. This is another opportunity being considered and hence this thread.

Now to get back to bed and try and get some more sleep!:sleep:

[Dodgy]

Fuck me, this is a hobby and you have already maxxed out two credit cards and leveraged your mortgage?

Steve had some good points. If you had set some goals and a budget for this year and another opportunity has come up - then you need to review what is more important to you long term - a fantastic opportunity in Germany, or the tri series and nationals here. Plan then execute....

[jellywrestler]

Maybe some people would gladly pay for a one way trip to Germany?

[Shaun]

It will only be "spare" after my #1 bike has finished being rebuilt...then my "spare" is for sale again (to repay the debt on it). Right now its what I'm racing to get some track time prior to tri series and Nats. I find it amusing that so many people on KB think everything that has been achieved at Biggles Racing has been easy going and handed to me on a platter (I'm not specifically referring to you here shaun). If you want something bad enough you commit to it. I can assure you we are very committed in our team!

As for re mortgage the house....been there done that. Like my op says, I like my sponsor are already over 100% committed to NZ racing. This is another opportunity being considered and hence this thread.

Now to get back to bed and try and get some more sleep!:sleep:




Sorry Marcus, but if you were actually capable of winning races in New Zealand you may have a chance to ask for support to do this one of NON event apart from the buzz of it for your self

I think you best go back to the drawing board mate and re determine your Goals with racing

Is it to be a winner or is it to have fun as this is what you love

Also sorry to say, but if you are in such heavy debt with Just Racing in NZ, some thing has been terribly miss managed Financually mate

[TOTO]

how about second or third job ?

[Biggles08]

Also sorry to say, but if you are in such heavy debt with Just Racing in NZ, some thing has been terribly miss managed Financually mateForgive me if I don't take financial advice from you Shaun! :bleh:

[Biggles08]

Fuck me, this is a hobby and you have already maxxed out two credit cards and leveraged your mortgage? x2 credit cards???? where did I say that?

Steve had some good points. If you had set some goals and a budget for this year and another opportunity has come up - then you need to review what is more important to you long term - a fantastic opportunity in Germany, or the tri series and nationals here. Plan then execute....

Firstly Who the hell is steve and when did he give any good points? I'm guessing you are referring to scouse who made absolutely no points apart from along the lines of "who the hell do you think you are asking for support for this opportunity?"

To answer your points, yes we have some goals set for this year (I thought this was pretty obvious by the fact that I have said we are committed to certain series in NZ), Yes we have a budget but as Choppa has rightly said, if you want to play at the top of NZ racing most can't do that without external support (read sponsorship), and finally, like I have said..its not whats most important to me that matters when you have responsibilities to others who have helped me along the way. We have commitments here FIRST and then if possible we will look at this new opportunity.

[Shaun]

Forgive me if I don't take financial advice from you Shaun! :bleh:



Haha I would not either mate, BUT you got on here to the ramble zone and started this dude, and as I have about 20 years more experience at the game, I think I know a wee bit more than you do dude, and each and every one of my sponsors since I started racing in 1897 are still there for me, so Guess I must have done some thing write with money ( There Money)


Good luck though mate

[Shaun]

x2 credit cards???? where did I say that?


Firstly Who the hell is steve and when did he give any good points? I'm guessing you are referring to scouse who made absolutely no points apart from along the lines of "who the hell do you think you are asking for support for this opportunity?"

To answer your points, yes we have some goals set for this year (I thought this was pretty obvious by the fact that I have said we are committed to certain series in NZ), Yes we have a budget but as Choppa has rightly said, if you want to play at the top of NZ racing most can't do that without external support (read sponsorship), and finally, like I have said..its not whats most important to me that matters when you have responsibilities to others who have helped me along the way. We have commitments here FIRST and then if possible we will look at this new opportunity.




"To answer your points, yes we have some goals set for this year (I thought this was pretty obvious by the fact that I have said we are committed to certain series in NZ), Yes we have a budget but as Choppa has rightly said, if you want to play at the top of NZ racing most can't do that without external support (read sponsorship), and finally, like I have said..its not whats most important to me that matters when you have responsibilities to others who have helped me along the way. We have commitments here FIRST and then if possible we will look at this new opportunit"




Put your mouth where the money currently is then and get the results in NZ first, before trying to go on a holiday for fun, and fun it is ONLY!!! You know there is NO future for you over there!

[Biggles08]

Put your mouth where the money currently is then and get the results in NZ first, before trying to go on a holiday for fun, and fun it is ONLY!!! You know there is NO future for you over there!
You confuse me Shaun?? What do you think I am doing? Last season I ended up in #7 in 600cc and this year we would like to better that. I AM putting my mouth where my money is more so than most I would say (especially a few contributors on this wonderful forum). As for having fun, I actually have fun when I'm going faster and improving my skills...so as far as having a 'holiday' and whether or not there is a 'future' for me over there who the hell are you to determine this?! How do you think I got offered this ride???Its called networking mate....something good comes from it usually. I would think you would be positive about this opportunity that has been offered to me as it would most likely open up more doors for the future for NZ motorcycle road racing as a whole... despite popular opinion, I understand its not all about me, rather its ALL about promotion!

[Dodgy]

Marcus, I was referring to Steve Bagshaw (SteveyB), who posted earlier.. He usually posts some salient thoughts.

You are getting a bit precious about this - you are currently placed #7 in NZ in 600 production, possess two bikes, are mortgaged and financed to the hilt and are now asking for help to go to Germany to race around a track. Good on you for asking for help, but dont get too upset when others ask if you have a correct perspective on where your priorities lie.

If you were 18 and already had a credible success and showed promise, then sponsors may be more interested. If you are sunstantially older than that and have mid field results rather than at the pointy end - then you may have a challenge.

If you really have the desire to achieve this, then you would find a way to do it yourself - afterall, nobody has a more vested interest in your future than yourself.

[CHOPPA]

I hate it when I start a thread with the best of intentions and it goes all pear shaped!! I can see both sides of the coin on this one but Marcus didnt start the thread asking if you think its in his best interest to compete over there, he was just asking if you had any ideas to raise some funds......

Your comments should be re worded ie....

If you win the NZ nationals will put you in a good position to raise funds.

Raffles etc

Get a mortgage

Get a second job

K Road

etc etc etc

Im not one to speak but if you can make comments positive then they would be more productive and maybe others reading it could get some inspiration.

Most fund raising ideas would have already been tried and tested anyway and at the end of the day its just lots and lots of hard work to raise money there is no quick or easy fix

[Maha]

'K Road'

Well theres $8:50 towards the grand total right there...:laugh:

[Latte]

... and every one of my sponsors since I started racing in 1897 are still there for me...

I've only met you once so I could be wrong, but I didn't think you were that old...

:bleh:

[jellywrestler]

Unfortunately it is probably too late to get monies back etc on stuff already bought, but not doing the Tri-Series would at least save money.
Not doing Nats, at least Sth Is, is another story, but would probably leave you with that sort of budget.
top method to piss off the current sponsors that are supporting him eh?

[Shaun]

I've only met you once so I could be wrong, but I didn't think you were that old...

:bleh:


48 In December dude Thanks I guess haha

[Shaun]

You confuse me Shaun?? What do you think I am doing? Last season I ended up in #7 in 600cc and this year we would like to better that. I AM putting my mouth where my money is more so than most I would say (especially a few contributors on this wonderful forum). As for having fun, I actually have fun when I'm going faster and improving my skills...so as far as having a 'holiday' and whether or not there is a 'future' for me over there who the hell are you to determine this?! How do you think I got offered this ride???Its called networking mate....something good comes from it usually. I would think you would be positive about this opportunity that has been offered to me as it would most likely open up more doors for the future for NZ motorcycle road racing as a whole... despite popular opinion, I understand its not all about me, rather its ALL about promotion!



Wow, this is also my response dude, I will make no more comments

Marcus, I was referring to Steve Bagshaw (SteveyB), who posted earlier.. He usually posts some salient thoughts.

You are getting a bit precious about this - you are currently placed #7 in NZ in 600 production, possess two bikes, are mortgaged and financed to the hilt and are now asking for help to go to Germany to race around a track. Good on you for asking for help, but dont get too upset when others ask if you have a correct perspective on where your priorities lie.

If you were 18 and already had a credible success and showed promise, then sponsors may be more interested. If you are sunstantially older than that and have mid field results rather than at the pointy end - then you may have a challenge.

If you really have the desire to achieve this, then you would find a way to do it yourself - afterall, nobody has a more vested interest in your future than yourself.

[RobGassit]

I think we could all encourage Biggles in a more positive way than how this thread is going.
I suggest that at the next meeting just after the riders briefing we drag him out behind the dunnies and kick the shit out of him. That should leave him in doubt as to our love and support for this fellow racers aspirations. While we are at it, give his trailer nuts a few turns for good measure. Some of you mean bastards on here need a phuckin hug!

[Latte]

48 In December dude Thanks I guess haha

1897 would make you at least 120 ;) :msn-wink:

[Shaun]

1897 would make you at least 120 ;) :msn-wink:



hahhaha Missed that point bucko

[Biggles08]

Marcus, I was referring to Steve Bagshaw (SteveyB), who posted earlier.. He usually posts some salient thoughts.

Fair enough bro...my mistake.


You are getting a bit precious about this - you are currently placed #7 in NZ in 600 production, possess two bikes, are mortgaged and financed to the hilt and are now asking for help to go to Germany to race around a track. Good on you for asking for help, but dont get too upset when others ask if you have a correct perspective on where your priorities lie.

Precious...passionate....I would express my involvement and my reasons to be much closer to the latter. As for others asking about my perspective on things and where my priorities lay I really don't give a rats on what these people think...if I had listened to some of the crap people had told me what I couldn't do up to now, I never would have managed a national placing at all. I will spell it out again for those that still don't get it MY PRIORITIES LIE FIRST AND FOREMOST TO MY CURRENT SPONSORS (and I will be competing at the Tri Series / Nationals regardless of Germany).



If you were 18 and already had a credible success and showed promise, then sponsors may be more interested. If you are sunstantially older than that and have mid field results rather than at the pointy end - then you may have a challenge.

What are you saying I'm old????? heaven forbid!!! :bleh: Hell mate, I'm very new to this racing gig and have only been racing for 3 years. I hadn't put a leg over a bike until I was 30, a very short 7 years ago! Yet here we are 3 years into my twilight racing career with a #7 on the bike. I'm not bragging about how fast I am (there are plenty faster), but I will brag about how involved and committed I am!

Finding sponsors and keeping them is always hard and most racers don't understand that these people that decide to become involved in sponsorship deals ONLY want return on investment. If this means being at the front of the pack then this is what they want....in New Zealand it is very easy to give excelent sponsorship exposure without being right up the front. This is mainly due to pretty poor media coverage at any rate so its not much of a game changer. If you can show you are providing the exposure they are looking for, these sponsors really don't give a flying fuck what position you come...appart from wanting to see you succeed. Its a business transaction and not free money.



If you really have the desire to achieve this, then you would find a way to do it yourself - afterall, nobody has a more vested interest in your future than yourself.

I really have the desire to achieve this but I know there is no way I can afford to do it financially myself. This was the original purpose of this thread...it was asking for ideas on how to get the money I need. If some rich fella wants to help so be it, if I need to hold fundraisers, so be it...I never expect a free lunch and I resent the innuendo from some that i do.

[Biggles08]

I think we could all encourage Biggles in a more positive way than how this thread is going.
I suggest that at the next meeting just after the riders briefing we drag him out behind the dunnies and kick the shit out of him. That should leave him in doubt as to our love and support for this fellow racers aspirations. While we are at it, give his trailer nuts a few turns for good measure. Some of you mean bastards on here need a phuckin hug!

This IS Kiwibiker mate!

[Brett]

I never expect a free lunch .

Maybe you can kill two birds with one stone....SAUSAGE SIZZLE!!

[Str8 Jacket]

I remember a few years back when I was broke and kept seizing my engine.... Once I had my heart set on racing a whole I season but was more than broke I decided to put up advertisements all over the place offering to do baby sitting, work around gardens cleaning etc. OK so it was only streetstock club racing and I only rode a crappy old RG but people offered me work all over the place. Within a couple of months I managed to raise enough to rebuild my engine and race for the year, even won 'best rookie' that year!
I am not saying that this would work for you but it may be worth thinking about??

[Madness]

Here's your solution... http://kidneykidney.com/

[Shaun]

I remember a few years back when I was broke and kept seizing my engine.... Once I had my heart set on racing a whole I season but was more than broke I decided to put up advertisements all over the place offering to do baby sitting, work around gardens cleaning etc. OK so it was only streetstock club racing and I only rode a crappy old RG but people offered me work all over the place. Within a couple of months I managed to raise enough to rebuild my engine and race for the year, even won 'best rookie' that year!
I am not saying that this would work for you but it may be worth thinking about??



You posted that On here some where did you not?, it deffinately rings a bell and I was Impressed

[Kickaha]

I suggest that at the next meeting just after the riders briefing we drag him out behind the dunnies and kick the shit out of him.
Can you please video that for those of us that can't be there and give him a kick for me as well

[Biggles08]

Can you please video that for those of us that can't be there and give him a kick for me as well

I'll try hold the camera as steady as I can for you Kickaha...as I'm receiving my beating

[steveyb]

Hi Marcus.
I think I am with Ivan on this one. I know, heaven forbid.......

Unfortunately it is probably too late to get monies back etc on stuff already bought, but not doing the Tri-Series would at least save money.
Not doing Nats, at least Sth Is, is another story, but would probably leave you with that sort of budget.
Ultimately when a plan and budget are set and then another opportunity comes along most people need to drop something to take up the new thing rather than be able to do all of them.
Cheers
Steve

Yes, I should have added, all other things being equal.
If you have committements with sponsors; firstly, lucky you!!, secondly, you should honour them, as you clearly plan to do.
Unfortunately life can be unfair sometimes and sometimes we can't do all that we would like to or have the opportunity to.
I hope you can find a way as it would be a great experience.
Good luck.
Steve

[Str8 Jacket]

You posted that On here some where did you not?, it deffinately rings a bell and I was Impressed

Yeah, thanks. I did and I actually got most of my work via KB.... Was bloody hard at times but I tell ya what it gets you fit for racing!

[Shaun]

Yeah, thanks. I did and I actually got most of my work via KB.... Was bloody hard at times but I tell ya what it gets you fit for racing!



Again "Bloody good on ya"

Are you still racing? Like your attitude and would like to meet ya some time if so, other wise:headbang:

[Str8 Jacket]

Again "Bloody good on ya"

Are you still racing? Like your attitude and would like to meet ya some time if so, other wise:headbang:

lol - we've said hello many times at Manfeild. Used to race #199 streetstock 150, averagely at best, lol! Bucket racing at the moment while saving for a house. I'm never going to be the next world champ so I decided to stop going broke over it. Hope to get back out in a year or so....

[Shaun]

lol - we've said hello many times at Manfeild. Used to race #199 streetstock 150, averagely at best, lol! Bucket racing at the moment while saving for a house. I'm never going to be the next world champ so I decided to stop going broke over it. Hope to get back out in a year or so....



O, my bad then mate, I have trouble remembering sign on names V real names

[Biggles08]

O, my bad then mate, I have trouble remembering sign on names V real names

hence your one eh? :innocent:

[Hinny]

purpose of this thread...it was asking for ideas on how to get the money I need.

Here's an idea:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/6000879/Sydney-grocery-store-shifted-125m

[Biggles08]

Here's an idea:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/world/australia/6000879/Sydney-grocery-store-shifted-125m

Thanks Hinny! Excelent suggestion...I will consider! :innocent:

[ClutchITUP]

Im not being a dick here bro. If you can swing it do it for sure I hope you do it!!
Just errrr 8G whats that for? air fares? and accommodation? I know you cant buy a race prepped S1000RR for that so
Just wondering if we had specifics maybe the good tall poppy farmers here may know of a free place to stay or a clapped out VW in a shed somewhere in Germany you maybe able to use for a bit? I know motoracer is in Germany. Have you hit him up?
I will understand if you dont want to get into details just thinking out loud
Goodluck

[Biggles08]

Im not being a dick here bro. If you can swing it do it for sure I hope you do it!!
Just errrr 8G whats that for? air fares? and accommodation? I know you cant buy a race prepped S1000RR for that so
Just wondering if we had specifics maybe the good tall poppy farmers here may know of a free place to stay or a clapped out VW in a shed somewhere in Germany you maybe able to use for a bit? I know motoracer is in Germany. Have you hit him up?
I will understand if you dont want to get into details just thinking out loud
Goodluck

Well airfares are in the vicinity of $2500 return ea so that's $5k for x2 people just there...then you have to live for about 3-4 weeks so the rest will be for that. This will be on the cheap don't worry about that! I may have some accommodation already sorted for most of the time but I won't be freeloading. I think $6k - $8k will be an 'at least' figure once you get everything added up!

[nodrog]

Well airfares are in the vicinity of $2500 return ea so that's $5k for x2 people just there...

Is it a sidecar race? :sunny:

[Biggles08]

Is it a sidecar race? :sunny:

lol...wash your mouth out! Nope its not, but I would be hard pressed not taking my #1 pit crew along with me to help out... She is every bit the reason I have made it this far as it is...It'd be a bit off not including her in an opportunity like this wouldn't you say??! Besides, I have been asked to bring at least one person to assist me.

[nodrog]

lol...wash your mouth out! Nope its not, but I would be hard pressed not taking my #1 pit crew along with me to help out... She is every bit the reason I have made it this far as it is...It'd be a bit off not including her in an opportunity like this wouldn't you say??! Besides, I have been asked to bring at least one person to assist me.

Smart man, sombody has to do the cooking and dishes etc, lol :niceone:

[gixerracer]

Well airfares are in the vicinity of $2500 return ea so that's $5k for x2 people just there...then you have to live for about 3-4 weeks so the rest will be for that. This will be on the cheap don't worry about that! I may have some accommodation already sorted for most of the time but I won't be freeloading. I think $6k - $8k will be an 'at least' figure once you get everything added up!

Go on your own save $2500 just like that.
Man that was easy glad I could be such a huge help

[jellywrestler]

Go on your own save $2500 just like that.
Man that was easy glad I could be such a huge help

send the woman she'd probably get better results...

[Madness]

I think $6k - $8k will be an 'at least' figure once you get everything added up!

Meh, that's only two sets of Carrozzeria's! :laugh:

[Dodgy]

Oh, so you want sponsorship so that you and your missus can have a 3-4 week holiday in Germany? Sweet!! :sunny:

Save some money in your budget by cutting out the race meeting! And dont go to Germany either, go to France, the food is better...

[Biggles08]

Oh, so you want sponsorship so that you and your missus can have a 3-4 week holiday in Germany? Sweet!! :sunny:Exactly :facepalm:


Save some money in your budget by cutting out the race meeting! And dont go to Germany either, go to France, the food is better...Meh....too many french people tho.

[Biggles08]

Go on your own save $2500 just like that.
Man that was easy glad I could be such a huge help

Your o for orwsome Craig!:niceone:...can't believe I hadn't thought of that!

[gixerracer]

Your o for orwsome Craig!:niceone:...can't believe I hadn't thought of that!

Hae man im just happy to help out

[steveyb]

Hae man im just happy to help out

You're not happy, you're a miserable bastard.

[Shaun]

You're not happy, you're a miserable " FAT" bastard.




Fixed it:laugh:

[ClutchITUP]

I found a single airfare to Frankfurt for $2100. and surely it wouldnt take you 4 weeks to ride 1000km? your not as old as shaun yet. Or do you have to be there for that long?
Keep trying dude you cant miss an opportunity like this, can ya, if you dont get the funds sorted do it bare bones. Minimum time away No sight seeing, 1 person, take your own food/tent and free load like hell

Just stating the obvious mate not helping shit Im just as bad the rest of them arrgh kill me now !!
I'll give ye 20$ to put a sticker of a colostomy bag on it :laugh:

[Shaun]

Mr Biggles, if your spare bike is for sale? I may have a buyer here in Australia to come out and ride it.

He would only want the bear running chassis, no fairings etc

EMAIL me if if if if EMAIL ONLY PLEASE

[Shaun]

Ahem....I am currently in excess of my 100% spend! Both these avenues are exhausted my friend! I'll be selling my spare racebike following the Nationals so that would help...although the $$ should go to repaying some debts! ha!



Sell it NOW man, and problem solved:eek:

[Scouse]

lol...wash your mouth out! Nope its not, but I would be hard pressed not taking my #1 pit crew along with me to help out... She is every bit the reason I have made it this far as it is...It'd be a bit off not including her in an opportunity like this wouldn't you say??! Besides, I have been asked to bring at least one person to assist me.Oh so you want someone to pay your missuses way as well. dream on please

[Biggles08]

Oh so you want someone to pay your missuses way as well. dream on please

Yeah...not that you would know anything about racing and being part of a team. Anyone who has actually seen what my 'missus' does in contribution to our racing effort and how important she is to it would understand why she is just as important I'm sure (not to mention again since you obviously can't read that I have been asked to bring a pit crew with me)...I tell ya what Scouse, how about you keep dreaming about being a good rider and about losing some weight :bleh:. When you have finished having a cry about me being a 'pathetic little wanker' who red blinged you, and once you have finished trying to hijack my thread, how about you crawl back under the rock from whence you came as quite frankly your input to this thread is of little value and you bore me. :finger:

[Biggles08]

Mr Biggles, if your spare bike is for sale? I may have a buyer here in Australia to come out and ride it.

He would only want the bear running chassis, no fairings etc

EMAIL me if if if if EMAIL ONLY PLEASE

Sorry Shaun, its only going to be available in Feb after the South Island rounds mate.

[Shaun]

Sorry Shaun, its only going to be available in Feb after the South Island rounds mate.




OK- sorry for you also dude, there was me thinking I had found the way to Germany for ya

[Edbear]

OK- sorry for you also dude, there was me thinking I had found the way to Germany for ya

You just go straight ahead to the next lights and turn left...

[Ivan]

Not poking shit at ya Marcus,

But why do you need the 2nd bike yes itd be helpful but you can survive with just one just requires more work at times but if it gets you to Germany so be it,
Take Moto2 for example they only have 1 bike and survive same can be done here in NZ its abit of a inconvenience but asI say if it helps get you to Germany so be it


Once again not tryna start shit

[Edbear]

Not poking shit at ya Marcus,

But why do you need the 2nd bike yes itd be helpful but you can survive with just one just requires more work at times but if it gets you to Germany so be it,
Take Moto2 for example they only have 1 bike and survive same can be done here in NZ its abit of a inconvenience but asI say if it helps get you to Germany so be it


Once again not tryna start shit

I think the main concern for him here is that he's got everything nicely set up for this season to give him the best chance of getting the results he wants and out of the blue comes this invitation just to put a spoke in his carefully laid plans.

I know the feeling of having just invested everything into a venture only to have more opportunities pop up and be frustrated that I can't take advantage of them at the time! Who wouldn't be excited to get such an invitation and want to take advantage of it?

[gixerracer]

Not poking shit at ya Marcus,

But why do you need the 2nd bike yes itd be helpful but you can survive with just one just requires more work at times but if it gets you to Germany so be it,
Take Moto2 for example they only have 1 bike and survive same can be done here in NZ its abit of a inconvenience but asI say if it helps get you to Germany so be it


Once again not tryna start shit

He has stated on here more than once he is commited to the Nationals for his sponsors ( Good job) so he sells his spare bike and now has no spare parts or wheels and has a big crash at the first round and needs a fork leg or a swingarm or a gas tank or a subframe etc etc sure would wish he had the spare bike

[Edbear]

He has stated on here more than once he is commited to the Nationals for his sponsors ( Good job) so he sells his spare bike and now has no spare parts or wheels and has a big crash at the first round and needs a fork leg or a swingarm or a gas tank or a subframe etc etc sure would wish he had the spare bike

What's all this talk about crashing..? Nah, never happen... :innocent:

[scott411]

Not poking shit at ya Marcus,

But why do you need the 2nd bike yes itd be helpful but you can survive with just one just requires more work at times but if it gets you to Germany so be it,
Take Moto2 for example they only have 1 bike and survive same can be done here in NZ its abit of a inconvenience but asI say if it helps get you to Germany so be it


Once again not tryna start shit

to be fair, a moto 2 team has a team of mechanic's, and a spare parts bin that would be 20 times bigger than anyones at the NZ road race nationals, i would be suprised if they do not carry a spare frame, not really a fair comparison,

[kiwifruit]

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[Str8 Jacket]

kiwifruit: You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to kiwifruit again.

Annnd only 25% interest - it's a BARGAIN!

[kiwifruit]

If they refuse you (they won't), i'll lend you the money for what I can get it for + 5% P.A

[Biggles08]

He has stated on here more than once he is commited to the Nationals for his sponsors ( Good job) so he sells his spare bike and now has no spare parts or wheels and has a big crash at the first round and needs a fork leg or a swingarm or a gas tank or a subframe etc etc sure would wish he had the spare bike

Not to mention my #1 bike is still in bits (hopefully this will be changing tomorrow) and had i not had a spare I would still have yet to put a leg over a bike this year...not exactly ideal buildup to racing with the fastest f#$kers in NZ.

But yes a spare bike this year is not optional for the South Island rounds at least.

[Ivan]

like i said i wasnt trying to poke shit was just asking a question to find out why the bike was needed now explained it makes sense im only trying to help out in a small way not start crap

[Biggles08]

like i said i wasnt trying to poke shit was just asking a question to find out why the bike was needed now explained it makes sense im only trying to help out in a small way not start crap

Meh, mate at least you know what your talking about rather than those like Scouse who ONLY hide behind a keyboard thinking they are awesome and never do something with their life. I never thought you were shit stirring Ivan :yes:

[Drew]

I never thought you were shit stirring Ivan :yes:

And if I posted something?

[Shaun]

And if I posted something?



hahahha goes without saying dude

[Dreama]

I think the main concern for him here is that he's got everything nicely set up for this season to give him the best chance of getting the results he wants and out of the blue comes this invitation just to put a spoke in his carefully laid plans.

I know the feeling of having just invested everything into a venture only to have more opportunities pop up and be frustrated that I can't take advantage of them at the time! Who wouldn't be excited to get such an invitation and want to take advantage of it?

Well said.
Reading all the posts/replies I'm pretty dismayed by the many negative attitudes ... here's a guy, who, btw, I wouldn't know if I fell over him ... who clearly loves racing, is dedicated and committed, has a partner who supports and helps him racing and he gets an opportunity to do something most average racers only dream about.
He is trying to figure out a way to make it happen so he voices his thoughts on a forum dedicated to his fellow racers ... and mostly he gets shot to pieces.
We all know that racing sucks the life out of the piggy bank and most racers live in an economic vacum .... a giant money void created by their/our intrinsic passion, so this is probably why the request for help has failed ..... mostly, we're all broke.

But jeez guys, give the man a break. He's probably got a once in a life time opportunity to race overseas and a small donation from each of us probably won't destroy us and just might help one of us realize a dream.
I see Shaun has put up a pledge thread to help him ... awesome stuff. I will pledge a small amount .... $50. It's not much I know but I can't even afford to get my own race bike finished let alone think about racing it.

Good luck Biggles

[Shaun]

Well said.
Reading all the posts/replies I'm pretty dismayed by the many negative attitudes ... here's a guy, who, btw, I wouldn't know if I fell over him ... who clearly loves racing, is dedicated and committed, has a partner who supports and helps him racing and he gets an opportunity to do something most average racers only dream about.
He is trying to figure out a way to make it happen so he voices his thoughts on a forum dedicated to his fellow racers ... and mostly he gets shot to pieces.
We all know that racing sucks the life out of the piggy bank and most racers live in an economic vacum .... a giant money void created by their/our intrinsic passion, so this is probably why the request for help has failed ..... mostly, we're all broke.

But jeez guys, give the man a break. He's probably got a once in a life time opportunity to race overseas and a small donation from each of us probably won't destroy us and just might help one of us realize a dream.
I see Shaun has put up a pledge thread to help him ... awesome stuff. I will pledge a small amount .... $50. It's not much I know but I can't even afford to get my own race bike finished let alone think about racing it.

Good luck Biggles



Good on ya mate, add it to the pledge post please and lets get the ball rolling.


As far as a representative for the NZ race Scene, Biggles will do us proud with his presentation etc

[Biggles08]

And if I posted something?
I must say Drew I am surprised at your lack of contribution as of late....it must be hard! I can imagine the internal fight going on within your head "mmmmuuuussssssttttt rrreesssssiiiiisssssttttt!!!!" :crazy:

[Edbear]

Good on ya mate, add it to the pledge post please and lets get the ball rolling.


As far as a representative for the NZ race Scene, Biggles will do us proud with his presentation etc

He's got a very pretty trailer this year! :yes:

[Drew]

He's got a very pretty trailer this year! :yes:It's got nice wheels...For now.


I must say Drew I am surprised at your lack of contribution as of late....it must be hard! I can imagine the internal fight going on within your head "mmmmuuuussssssttttt rrreesssssiiiiisssssttttt!!!!" :crazy:Na, no battle in my head.

I'm jealous of you mostly. I'm pretty sure that with a decent set up bike and the funds to race I'd better the results you've gotten, but good on you for being out there and doing it. You improve every season and have one of the best presented pits in the paddock.

In an endurance race you could do very well by merely being more fit than the competition. By that I mean if you can ride closer to your limit for longer than them, the deficit is substantially reduced.

Good luck.

[Biggles08]

It's got nice wheels...For now.

Na, no battle in my head.

I'm jealous of you mostly. I'm pretty sure that with a decent set up bike and the funds to race I'd better the results you've gotten, but good on you for being out there and doing it. You improve every season and have one of the best presented pits in the paddock.

In an endurance race you could do very well by merely being more fit than the competition. By that I mean if you can ride closer to your limit for longer than them, the deficit is substantially reduced.

Good luck.

Fark....First Shaun now you!!! :shit:

Your not the only one that could do better than me most likely either Drew...in fact I am the first to admit I'm not the fastest in the field, not by a longshot. This of course is my goal to change, and as you said, if I can keep getting better every year I will continue pushing. I have only been racing 3 years and riding for about 7 so I need to keep reminding myself this fact. I'm up against racers that have been doing it longer than I have been riding.

The thing is that most don't get is you don't have to be the fastest to succeed...you have to firstly be 100% committed and do WHATEVER it takes to race. After this you need to be consistent and not crash. I would love you to get some funds together to come kick my arse..it would help me get faster I have no doubt!

Re the fitness....well, I can't rely on that either unfortunately! :innocent:

[Shaun]

[QUOTE=Biggles08;1130202698 I would love you to get some funds together to come kick my arse..it would help me get faster I have no doubt!

Re the fitness....well, I can't rely on that either unfortunately! :innocent:[/QUOTE]




hahahah He would just Crash more:sunny:

[Drew]

hahahah He would just Crash more:sunny:


Yep, crashed my brains out, oh hang on...I'm sure that was someone else.

[Shaun]

Yep, crashed my brains out, oh hang on...I'm sure that was someone else.




Yea man, but I have finally found a couple of spare cells hahahaha

[DerekP]

Anyone who has actually seen what my 'missus' does in contribution to our racing effort and how important she is to it would understand why she is just as important I'm sure :

That she is! She is a keeper that one.. Walked past the Biggles Racing tent at the Teretonga round of Nationals last year; saw Mrs Biggles changing the rear wheel of the bike, and Mr Biggles vacuuming the tent! :facepalm: It was fantastic!! Made me smile:laugh:

Good luck with Germany mate


p.s has Mrs Biggles got a sister??

[Biggles08]

That she is! She is a keeper that one.. Walked past the Biggles Racing tent at the Teretonga round of Nationals last year; saw Mrs Biggles changing the rear wheel of the bike, and Mr Biggles vacuuming the tent! :facepalm: It was fantastic!! Made me smile:laugh:

Good luck with Germany mate


p.s has Mrs Biggles got a sister??

hahaha...I remember that! The funny thing is...for us it is normal but when you guys walked past and stopped and laughed I realized how funny it must have looked! :-)...oh and no unfortunately mate shes only got two brothers!

[Fast Eddie]

Good luck for Germany,

Get people to make financial donations to you and in return you'll stitch their name on your leathers. you could cover some plain leathers in a lot of names using small letters :D

Pretty gay all the negative vibes on here, especially Scouse.

Get to Germany!! Make the most of every opportunity you get to do what you love.. one day you'll be too old to ride and will look back on the happy memories and the good times.

The debt will clear itself when you pass away ;) so rack it up!

[wharfy]

Good luck for Germany,


The debt will clear itself when you pass away ;) so rack it up!

For sure, you can't take it with you, the best you can do is spend somebody else s before you go ! That's my philosophy :) My aim is to die owing the bank a million bucks !

[FROSTY]

Biggles. I I just read your first post. Basicly mon heres my thoughts for you.
1) get another job. Flip burgers at night,get a night job in an outbound call centre or work in a bar. Work the weekends you ain't racing
2) you say you are selling your "spare" racebike. Why not sell both?
3) Look around your world and see what else you can sell Ie do you NEED a $20000 car and a fancy road bike?
If YOU really want it then theres only one person who can make it happen

[Biggles08]

Biggles. I I just read your first post. Basicly mon heres my thoughts for you.
1) get another job. Flip burgers at night,get a night job in an outbound call centre or work in a bar. Work the weekends you ain't racing
2) you say you are selling your "spare" racebike. Why not sell both?
3) Look around your world and see what else you can sell Ie do you NEED a $20000 car and a fancy road bike?
If YOU really want it then theres only one person who can make it happen

Frosty most of what you have said has already been suggested and covered off in the previous posts if you can be bothered going through the 8 or so pages <_<. While appreciate your suggestions, unfortunately they not much help :-)

[Shaun]

Frosty most of what you have said has already been suggested and covered off in the previous posts if you can be bothered going through the 8 or so pages <_<. While appreciate your suggestions, unfortunately they not much help :-)



Be bothered Frosty, Fuk of mate, he;s a dam car sales man hahah