A response to 'Race fans deny their inner ghoul'

[Shaun P]

An article published in the Herald Sun that has provoked a lot of emotive responses..

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/race-fans-deny-their-inner-ghoul/story-fn56az2q-1226176644011


Response here..

http://asbk.com.au/index.php?option=com_content&Itemid=2&view=article&id=602

[Paul in NZ]

While she raises a valid point for discussion but its one most prefer not to talk about. The response is pretty unreadable and highly emotive (unfortunately) which is understandable under the circumstances.

Surely even motoracings biggest fans have to acknowledge that there is an element in the crowd that does enjoy the potential for carnage just as there is an element that enjoys the pure skill and technical aspects - we all exist someplace on the spectrum. In many ways this has not changed since the Roman circus days. (originally the games were purely atheletic contests) Its probably something dark in the nature of man.

The risks are understood and tacitly accepted in motorsport - I can't quite see the point of the article except to upset people (which it has done)

[RobGassit]

Luckily for Jill Singer, I hear that ignorance is bliss.

[BoristheBiter]

I think they are getting crossed wires on this.

One is talking of crashes while the other is talking about deaths.

We all know the risk's of motor sport and expect the inevitably crash but a death in our "safe as possible" world just seems, and rightly so, inexplicable.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I didnt get past the phrase "legalised road carnage" because obviously the bitch has no clue. By definition racing does not generally take place on the road. And carnage? sure, there have been high profile deaths. But statistically its a shitload safer than driving your econoshitbox down to the KFC to get a feed for the bros.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I think they are getting crossed wires on this.

One is talking of crashes while the other is talking about deaths.

We all know the risk's of motor sport and expect the inevitably crash but a death in our "safe as possible" world just seems, and rightly so, inexplicable.

your last statements make no sense. They are highly explicable. Always regrettable, perhaps inevitable. But racing is about risk, and mitigation of risk.

I used to do a lot of whitewater kayaking. Thats the same: risk, and risk mitigation, with an element of danger unavoidable. And each persons threshold of acceptable risk is different. Stuff some people do, I wouldnt. Stuff I did, others wouldnt.

[Reckless]

She's a silly bitch that cant see the skill and art in any form of motor sport.
Prob thinks it's like watching paint dry!

here Quote
"People come to watch racers risk their lives and flirt with danger. They slap high fives for a good wreck, strain to see replays of cars slamming into walls. Without crashes, racing would just be cars going around an oval in a chess match. Interesting, perhaps, but not thrilling enough to get people to watch."

Without the crashes Moto Gp would still be thrilling to watch END OF STORY!
So would F1, Rally, MX etc. But I say no Fan that actually rides wants to see a crash.

And this

So for those who now grieve for Simoncelli, ask yourselves: Isn't there perhaps just a speck of blood on your hands?

Could be applied to every sport there is! It's just a really really stupid statement.
IF a rugby player breaks his neck
IF a Sky diver has a chute fail
IF a skier falls and gets injured or dies
IF a ballet dancer falls and gets injured
IF IF IF IF
So Jill Singer's theory is we share responsibility for all injuries or deaths because we enjoy/watch their sporting activities?

Rubbish I say! When I see a pic of Stoner low in a corner with his elbow down. I think how the does he do that, not I hope he crashes!

That's just journalistic bullshit from someone that doesn't have a clue about the talent on display.
Maybe Jill Singer is confessing to her inner most ghoul and goes to watch people get killed but 99.9% of bikers don't.

[BoristheBiter]

your last statements make no sense. They are highly explicable. Always regrettable, perhaps inevitable. But racing is about risk, and mitigation of risk.

I used to do a lot of whitewater kayaking. Thats the same: risk, and risk mitigation, with an element of danger unavoidable. And each persons threshold of acceptable risk is different. Stuff some people do, I wouldnt. Stuff I did, others wouldnt.

Yeah, I missed out the word perception.

[gatch]

I can see what she was getting at, but don't particularly agree with her.

I think she may be best to look for a new job.

[MIXONE]

She's full of shit imo.I've been attending all sorts of racing for decades and it's to admire the skills of those involved.I cringe anytime a racer crashes on 2 wheels or 4.If I wanted to see crashes I would go to the demo derby.

[Geeen]

She's full of shit imo.I've been attending all sorts of racing for decades and it's to admire the skills of those involved.I cringe anytime a racer crashes on 2 wheels or 4.If I wanted to see crashes I would go to the demo derby.

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Egg Zachery

[trev]

What an unbelievabky insensitive moronic outburst that is. That the woman has absolutely no concept of "skill/talent" is demonstrated by the lack of it in her article along with her lack of intelligence. Taking her concept further we obviously all drive cars not to get from "A to B" but in the hope we will kill/maim someone in the process.
What a shallow sad person she must be to take this viewpoint.

[Shaun]

Just Typicall of any Journalist world wide


Sensationalism SELLS Papers, simple as that


HAHA, I purposely crashed into a solid concrete wall at aroung 120MPH just to get my name in the news paper and too really stress the hell out of the medics, But More importantly, TO GIVE THE FANS some BLOOD, eh, what a happy sharing Camper I must be

If she had a Dick I would call here a WANKER

[BoristheBiter]

Just Typicall of any Journalist world wide


Sensationalism SELLS Papers, simple as that


HAHA, I purposely crashed into a solid concrete wall at aroung 120MPH just to get my name in the news paper and too really stress the hell out of the medics, But More importantly, TO GIVE THE FANS some BLOOD, eh, what a happy sharing Camper I must be

If she had a Dick I would call here a WANKER

I think she is talking more of spectators than participants.

[Paul in NZ]

Um - without seeming to agree with her (cos I don't) She isn’t saying all spectators are there just for the crashes. The fact is that there are some people who DO get off on this. They are a minority but they exist.

[HenryDorsetCase]

even the title is offensive. Totally begs the question. its as good as "So when did you stop beating your wife?"

lazy arsehole journo. loving this cos it has served up controversy. Fuckers.