250 Bandit fork oil seals?

[turner]

does anybody know if these will fit a 250 bandit (GJ74A) ?? i know its for a 400 bandit but wondered if they had the same forks?

http://www.pyramidparts.co.nz/products/fork-seal-dust-seal-combo-kit-005-071

[Robert Taylor]

does anybody know if these will fit a 250 bandit (GJ74A) ?? i know its for a 400 bandit but wondered if they had the same forks?

http://www.pyramidparts.co.nz/products/fork-seal-dust-seal-combo-kit-005-071

If they are that price complete for 2 x fork seals and 2 x dust seals then Id really struggle to believe ''finest quality''. You need to measure the standard tube ods and ids plus seal height.

[turner]

really? what price would i be looking at for a 'good' quality equivalent?

[nzspokes]

Or they just missed out on a few of the markups on the way through.

[Robert Taylor]

Or they just missed out on a few of the markups on the way through.

Why such a negative and cynical comment? My preoccupation is quality first and foremost and there is no way that 2 main seals and 2 dust seals at that price are going to be good quality, as they are trying to mislead people into believing. Normally good quality seals only ( not incl dust seals )that also dont dramatically increase friction would be around $40 for a pair
Arguably ''quality'' is one of the most blatantly mis-used words in the English and many other languages.
May also the Lord strike down anyway whoever dares to make a profit, however miniscule.

[nzspokes]

Why such a negative and cynical comment?

25 years as being a mechanic and working in parts.

[Robert Taylor]

25 years as being a mechanic and working in parts.

Only 25 years!

[hayd3n]

does anybody know if these will fit a 250 bandit (GJ74A) ?? i know its for a 400 bandit but wondered if they had the same forks?

http://www.pyramidparts.co.nz/products/fork-seal-dust-seal-combo-kit-005-071

great company have delt with them a few times now and all parts have been fantastic thehy even have a chat box where you can chat with a real person so youll never get the wrong part

[gammaguy]

Why such a negative and cynical comment? My preoccupation is quality first and foremost and there is no way that 2 main seals and 2 dust seals at that price are going to be good quality, as they are trying to mislead people into believing. Normally good quality seals only ( not incl dust seals )that also dont dramatically increase friction would be around $40 for a pair
Arguably ''quality'' is one of the most blatantly mis-used words in the English and many other languages.
May also the Lord strike down anyway whoever dares to make a profit, however miniscule.

In my experience most owners of 250cc motorcycles do so because they are learners,not by choice.

To this end they are intent on trading up to a "real"bike as soon as they can burn their L plates,and as such try and spend as little cash as possible on their ride.

As for quality,I fully accept your argument as in price vs performance,but I venture in this case the owner of 250 Bandit cares little as long as he gets a WOF on his machine until the big day when he can trade up to a GSXRYZFZZRCBR whatever the hell.

Give him the choice between price and performance and he will choose to have leftover cheeseburger money every time.:Oi:

Oh and by the way,the fork seals of the GSF400 and GSF250 are the same,41mm forks.

[ducatilover]

I agree with Gammaguy, but, I'll throw this one in the works.
Is a reasonably inexperienced rider going to notice, let alone benefit from more expensive seals? I vote no.
The archaic suspension on them is shit anyway, but it's perfectly adequate for the average rider, I don't see most people running in to issues.

On my VT250 I went through three different sets of seals (lots of KM, not a cheap seal issue) and I never noticed the difference between the all balls or Versah seals, however, fluid weight and small spacers in the forks did improve her immensely. All the seals lasted 40,000 ish km, they got done once a year.

[Robert Taylor]

I agree with Gammaguy, but, I'll throw this one in the works.
Is a reasonably inexperienced rider going to notice, let alone benefit from more expensive seals? I vote no.
The archaic suspension on them is shit anyway, but it's perfectly adequate for the average rider, I don't see most people running in to issues.

On my VT250 I went through three different sets of seals (lots of KM, not a cheap seal issue) and I never noticed the difference between the all balls or Versah seals, however, fluid weight and small spacers in the forks did improve her immensely. All the seals lasted 40,000 ish km, they got done once a year.

In fact the two brands you mentioned are very similiar in the amount of friction they have.

My philosophy is near enough is actually not good enough, I make no apologies for that and think the world would be a better place if we all collectrively had less tolerance of substandard parts and service

[ducatilover]

In fact the two brands you mentioned are very similiar in the amount of friction they have.

My philosophy is near enough is actually not good enough, I make no apologies for that and think the world would be a better place if we all collectrively had less tolerance of substandard parts and service

Fair enough, I can understand that philosophy (if you look at the work I do to my shit heap bikes...) :yes:

[pyramidparts]

If they are that price complete for 2 x fork seals and 2 x dust seals then Id really struggle to believe ''finest quality''. You need to measure the standard tube ods and ids plus seal height.

Hello Folks, just reading this post regarding fork oil seals, first of all i can appreciate both sides of the debate. We are also well aware there are terrible fork seals out there, however, just because Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki or Yamaha charge $40 - $50 for a pair of oil seals does not mean they are better than aftermarket seals like ours. In fact we will guarantee our seals will outlast any OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer's) seal (full exchange or refund if they dont) and over the past 25 years we have gone from selling standard seals to most of our seals now being Triple lipped/double sprung seals. All of our Dust seals are NOK OEM. We have been selling fork oil seals and other products worldwide for over 25 years, we could (as many people do) add on 75% markup for our Kiwi Customers (just because you are in New Zealand) but don't. We sell these seals for the same price as we sell them in the UK, Europe, and USA. Yes compared to what you would pay walking into your local Suzuki dealer they are cheaper, but as for the quality they are equal or better to OEM. Most bikers know that the major bike Manufacturers have been ripping customers for too long.

[nzspokes]

Hello Folks, just reading this post regarding fork oil seals, first of all i can appreciate both sides of the debate. We are also well aware there are terrible fork seals out there, however, just because Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki or Yamaha charge $40 - $50 for a pair of oil seals does not mean they are better than aftermarket seals like ours. In fact we will guarantee our seals will outlast any OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer's) seal (full exchange or refund if they dont) and over the past 25 years we have gone from selling standard seals to most of our seals now being Triple lipped/double sprung seals. All of our Dust seals are NOK OEM. We have been selling fork oil seals and other products worldwide for over 25 years, we could (as many people do) add on 75% markup for our Kiwi Customers (just because you are in New Zealand) but don't. We sell these seals for the same price as we sell them in the UK, Europe, and USA. Yes compared to what you would pay walking into your local Suzuki dealer they are cheaper, but as for the quality they are equal or better to OEM. Most bikers know that the major bike Manufacturers have been ripping customers for too long.

Epic dredge.

[Akzle]

Epic dredge.

customer service: takes 3 years.

[Shaun Harris]

customer service: takes 3 years.



Haha to funny. I agree with Roberts comments actually re seals etc

[Robert Taylor]

Hello Folks, just reading this post regarding fork oil seals, first of all i can appreciate both sides of the debate. We are also well aware there are terrible fork seals out there, however, just because Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki or Yamaha charge $40 - $50 for a pair of oil seals does not mean they are better than aftermarket seals like ours. In fact we will guarantee our seals will outlast any OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer's) seal (full exchange or refund if they dont) and over the past 25 years we have gone from selling standard seals to most of our seals now being Triple lipped/double sprung seals. All of our Dust seals are NOK OEM. We have been selling fork oil seals and other products worldwide for over 25 years, we could (as many people do) add on 75% markup for our Kiwi Customers (just because you are in New Zealand) but don't. We sell these seals for the same price as we sell them in the UK, Europe, and USA. Yes compared to what you would pay walking into your local Suzuki dealer they are cheaper, but as for the quality they are equal or better to OEM. Most bikers know that the major bike Manufacturers have been ripping customers for too long.

As for your last sentence there is some truth but also untruth, its very easy to make emotive and highly oversimplistic statements that will resonate with many. Companies such as yours selling many low value parts into ''open slather'' economies such as NZ are enjoying that its an unlevel playing field. You are enjoying the fact that successive Governments have dismally failed to collect a clearance charge and gst ( consumption tax ) on EVERYTHING that comes across the border. If on the other hand you go and buy such products from a diminishing number of retailers with proper premises in this country you are paying those clearance and gst charges. And you may not be ripped off, but the important point here is that our own Kiwi businesses employ Kiwis and return their profits back into the local economy. And to not put too fine a point on it consumption tax helps to fund Government services. And plenty of people constantly grizzle that there is not enough Government funding. You cannot have it both ways. I am ledto believe that in the UK a far higher percentage of privately imported goods are charged VAT at the border.
Im proud that the union jack is part of our national flag ( and it should stay that way ) but everytime I go through immigration into your country I and my countrymen get treated like lepers in alien lanes, while we evidence Germans etc fast tracked through the European community lanes. Personally I find that insulting when my own personal family history includes 2 descendants that fought for the Empire. My grandfather was a sniper who survived both Gallipolli and the Somme whilst my father was seconded to the RAF. So in your case the mother country continues to take and help lay waste to NZ businesses
But what do many people care???