Thinking about The Grand Challenge, what bike?

[nzspokes]

Im thinking about the grand challange next year. Currently im on my Ls but shoult be on 6F by April.

So with a very small budget of 2 to maybe 3k, what bike should I look for? Have seen some nice Yam XJ600s on TM but not saved the money yet.

[Blackbird]

Anything that's comfortable. I've done it on a BMW K100 RS (twice), a Honda Blackbird (twice) and a Street Triple (once). The Street Triple was the most comfortable of the lot and caused no physical probs whatsoever. Speed really isn't a consideration provided you can maintain speeds around the legal limit as you have to average 67 km/hr. You don't have to be too precious about what bike, just set it up to be comfortable. Mind you, people have done it on everything from a Suzuki RG 50 up, so depends on how hard you want to make it for yourself!

I still hanker doing it on a Honda C90 cub!

[nzspokes]

Well I did 1K over the weekend with an average of 72kph on the road. But that was over 3 days. Only pain I had was in my right hand, thinking about on of those criuse control things so I can rest it. We also had a lot of breaks.

But doing it on my 250 would drive me nuts.....

[Gremlin]

As Blackbird touched upon, the GC has been done on a massive variety of bikes, and really, almost anything could be used. Last year a guy finished on a GN250, and I think the previous year, the same guy had to go home for a short while, when his electrics failed and rode the rest of the night holding a torch. :laugh:

One key thing would be comfortable. As you mention with wrists, you'd want something that puts you in a comfortable position on the bike, because you're going to be there a while. Little strain on wrists, you'll see a few using a sheepskin cover which is an easy mod. Protection from wind is optional but handy, as it doubles as protection from rain and cold as well. Even found it's useful in fog, as it isn't your visor getting hit with fog. Unexpected but handy.

Tank range, it's really best to be able to do 200-250km or more. Obviously, more is useful, but if your body needs a stop every 200-250km, then having a 350km range, which you can't double as such, won't be that useful. Fuel during the night sometimes requires a bit of planning, and the less you have to detour for gas or avoid stopping every 150km, the better.

The rest is really the rider. Ride at a consistent pace, avoid frequent long stops and look after yourself, eating and drinking at each stop (plus a toilet break), to stay in good condition.

[nzspokes]

Im pretty up with looking after myself, I used to be a long distance cyclist(not that you could tell now). Thinking of running a camel Back bladder in a tank bag. The wrist thing will probably change with a multi cylinder bike, the single vibrates all over the place.

I like the look of this, http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=426291130 :love:

[nzspokes]

So tonight when I popped over to see Alec at SME motorcycles to get a carb jet for my trail bike he had just finished working on a 80s GSX750E. I begged a sit on it. Perfect fit. Asked him about them and he rates em and can get parts easy. Ive had my eye on this bike, http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=372528953 :love:. Only problem the finance I got offerd to by a bike turns out to be dodgy and huge intrest rate. Bugger.:facepalm:

But I think one of the GSX750s would work well.

[Taz]

They're a nice bike.

[DrunkenMistake]

Im thinking about the grand challange next year. Currently im on my Ls but shoult be on 6F by April.

So with a very small budget of 2 to maybe 3k, what bike should I look for? Have seen some nice Yam XJ600s on TM but not saved the money yet.


May be looking at a couple of MC19s. Apart from the normal mechanical stuff are there any specific things to look at on one?



Just a random thought when rolling along the motorway to Bombay tonight. Do I really need a bigger cc bike? My little CBX250 goes along fine. 100 to 120 without to much worry. How much more power do I need?

I do need to change of the CBX mainly due to its physical size. Im sure it was designed around a 5 foot person. So would a bigger 250 keep me happy for years to come? Maybe a VTR250 or the Hyosung 250 version(Comet?). Im 5'8" and 100kg. Yes I know. Less pies needed.

Want to just blast around on it and do trips away like the upcoming Northland ride.



Im busy dreaming about my big boy bike once my licence is done. So ive seen a CB1300 and looked at a XJR1300 today. Seem to be very similar bikes. Im leaning towards the XJR but not sure. What are peoples thoughts?

Can we just have a thread merge? or a sub topic 'broken record'

[Hitcher]

Can we just have a thread merge? or a sub topic 'broken record'

It's OK to dream about life after a restricted license. Stale old bikers who've forgotten what it was like to get excited about motorcycling are probably the ones who need their own forum.

[nzspokes]

It's OK to dream about life after a restricted license. Stale old bikers who've forgotten what it was like to get excited about motorcycling are probably the ones who need their own forum.

Well its taken me some time to decide what Ive wanted from a bike. Ive always liked the idea of touring. So a bike that suits that seems the way to go. I had thought about a sports bike untill I sat on one. The bike style I would love is something like a CB1300 or GSX1400 but cannot afford one our have the experence to ride one.

[Hitcher]

The bike style I would love is something like a CB1300 or GSX1400 but cannot afford one our have the experence to ride one.

My first post-250 bike was a ZRX1200R. "Experience" is an interesting concept. Remember that you ride the bike, not the other way around.

[nzspokes]

My first post-250 bike was a ZRX1200R. "Experience" is an interesting concept. Remember that you ride the bike, not the other way around.

Thats a fair call. Bike will only go as fast as the throttle is twisted.

But in saying that I couldnt afford one anyway. But the GSX750 seems a nice option.

[FJRider]

... The rest is really the rider. Ride at a consistent pace, avoid frequent long stops and look after yourself, eating and drinking at each stop (plus a toilet break), to stay in good condition.

The key to the long distance rides IS the rider ...

Passing well lit pubs, where everybody is enjoying themselves ... in the rain ... is hard.
Being in the back of "the back of beyond" at two in the morning ...is hard.
After eight hours riding ... not even halfway ... is hard The first time.
Arriving at a gas station (card pump) and the machine wont accept your card ... is hard.
At four in the morning ... 100 km's from the next town ... is that a miss I hear ... is hard.
Fueling up ... then straight back on the bike ... for the third time ... is hard.

If you dont know if you can do it ... It's hard to even start for fear of looking like an idiot if you give up ...

The actual bike being used to do it ... matters little, if you are USED to riding it. Trying to dip the lights and switching them OFF instead is scarey ... (trust me on that)

[DrunkenMistake]

The actual bike being used to do it ... matters little, if you are USED to riding it. Trying to dip the lights and switching them OFF instead is scarey ... (trust me on that)

Dunno if you have been down the Portobello road in Dunedin, but if you have you will understand a bit better, basicly its a nice twisty road with water one side, and cliff on the other, and not a single street light,

I have blown a headlight bulb which wasnt so pretty when it come to laundry day

[nzspokes]

The key to the long distance rides IS the rider ...

Passing well lit pubs, where everybody is enjoying themselves ... in the rain ... is hard.
Being in the back of "the back of beyond" at two in the morning ...is hard.
After eight hours riding ... not even halfway ... is hard The first time.
Arriving at a gas station (card pump) and the machine wont accept your card ... is hard.
At four in the morning ... 100 km's from the next town ... is that a miss I hear ... is hard.
Fueling up ... then straight back on the bike ... for the third time ... is hard.

If you dont know if you can do it ... It's hard to even start for fear of looking like an idiot if you give up ...

The actual bike being used to do it ... matters little, if you are USED to riding it. Trying to dip the lights and switching them OFF instead is scarey ... (trust me on that)

All real good points. I back myself to do it.

Turning the lights off would be a fear of mine, kinda thing I would do. :facepalm:

[FJRider]

Dunno if you have been down the Portobello road in Dunedin, but if you have you will understand a bit better, basicly its a nice twisty road with water one side, and cliff on the other, and not a single street light,

I have blown a headlight bulb which wasnt so pretty when it come to laundry day

I HAVE ... and I "switched off" in the upper Buller Gorge a bit after midnight ..

[FJRider]

All real good points. I back myself to do it.

Turning the lights off would be a fear of mine, kinda thing I would do. :facepalm:

I got some insulation tape and taped it ON ... just left the dip switch free ...

[nzspokes]

One concern for me is headlights, I dont have the best night vision. I see some extra lighting to be needed but dont want high beam so bright that when you come down to low its like the lights are turned off.

[Gremlin]

The key to the long distance rides IS the rider ...

Passing well lit pubs, where everybody is enjoying themselves ... in the rain ... is hard. Nope... just odd, like the TT this year. Wondered what everyone thought with motorcycles randomly turning up in the middle of the night :laugh:
Being in the back of "the back of beyond" at two in the morning ...is hard. Nope... actually feels really good
After eight hours riding ... not even halfway ... is hard The first time. Certainly if you're not even heading home... that homeward bound feeling certainly gives you extra energy
Arriving at a gas station (card pump) and the machine wont accept your card ... is hard. Never had it... could lead to suicide however
At four in the morning ... 100 km's from the next town ... is that a miss I hear ... is hard. Ride a reliable bike :bleh:
Fueling up ... then straight back on the bike ... for the third time ... is hard.

The actual bike being used to do it ... matters little, if you are USED to riding it. Trying to dip the lights and switching them OFF instead is scarey ... (trust me on that)
Better yet is doing 100km+ in the dark, in the middle of the country, after both filaments in your only bulb have blown less than 100km apart. After riding for most of that 100km you realise it's a dumb idea, and any oncoming overtaking vehicle wouldn't have seen you :blink:

[FJRider]

Better yet is doing 100km+ in the dark, in the middle of the country, after both filaments in your only bulb have blown less than 100km apart. After riding for most of that 100km you realise it's a dumb idea, and any oncoming overtaking vehicle wouldn't have seen you :blink:

The looks on peoples faces ... when they ask where have you come from and where are you going to ... and the answer to both questions is the same ... <_<

[nzspokes]

Just seen a XJ750 listed with 115000ks, wonder how much more life it has in it?

[awa355]

Better yet is doing 100km+ in the dark, in the middle of the country, after both filaments in your only bulb have blown less than 100km apart. After riding for most of that 100km you realise it's a dumb idea, and any oncoming overtaking vehicle wouldn't have seen you :blink:

It's called Motorcycling. Just part of the big picture.

[Subike]

Just seen a XJ750 listed with 115000ks, wonder how much more life it has in it?

A certain southern gentle man has a FJ750
This year it became a new bike for the fourth time since he has owned it,
I flatmate of mine has a FJ750, he rides it everywhere, it has clocked over 300000k
They are another one of those Yamaha IL4 that forget to die
And being shaftys, well, say no more

[nzspokes]

A certain southern gentle man has a FJ750
This year it became a new bike for the fourth time since he has owned it,
I flatmate of mine has a FJ750, he rides it everywhere, it has clocked over 300000k
They are another one of those Yamaha IL4 that forget to die
And being shaftys, well, say no more

Hmmmmm, think I will go look tomorrow.

[FJRider]

A certain southern gentle man has a FJ750
This year it became a new bike for the fourth time since he has owned it,
I flatmate of mine has a FJ750, he rides it everywhere, it has clocked over 300000k
They are another one of those Yamaha IL4 that forget to die
And being shaftys, well, say no more

I cant recall an FJ 750 being built ... the FJ1100/1200's were chain drive. Do you think it might be an XJ 750 (They were shafty"s) ... ???

And I did my first 1000 miler on one ... home in 23 hours ...

[nzspokes]

I cant recall an FJ 750 being built ... the FJ1100/1200's were chain drive. Do you think it might be an XJ 750 (They were shafty"s) ... ???

And I did my first 1000 miler on one ... home in 23 hours ...

The one Im looking at is a XJ750 and a shaft drive. Are they reliable?

[FJRider]

The one Im looking at is a XJ750 and a shaft drive. Are they reliable?

YES ... Which model are you looking at ... ???

[nzspokes]

YES ... Which model are you looking at ... ???

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=426974461

This is it.

[FJRider]

This is it.

Tidy enough ... buy now is about right ...

I wonder what reserve is ... ???

[nzspokes]

Tidy enough ... buy now is about right ...

I wonder wht reserve is ... ???

I will go take a look and see the condition. Anything in the motors I should be looking for apart from the norm? Cant test ride due to still being on L plate but may suggest he rides and I pillion, see how it goes 2 up.

Think I can organise the finance.

[LBD]

The looks on peoples faces ... when they ask where have you come from and where are you going to ... and the answer to both questions is the same ... <_<

You need to throw a via or two in there...Chch to ...Chch....via Takaka and...um... Bluff....

"Oh that sounds like a nice holiday... how many days will you take?"

About.....1 1/2:facepalm:

As for lights...the more the better. Std lights plus 2 x 35W HID "Fog" lamps

The joys of solo night time rides...sigh....like 2.30 am riding out from Milford on a foggy night....not sure who got the biggest scare, me of the young stag that belted out of the bush in front of me.

Turning lights off, pfff...I hope no one else ever experiences riding a brand new and somewhat more powerful bike than the one you just traded in....at night for the first time....that has the kill switch where the dip switch was. In my mind I flicked the lights to high beam, but the motor died instead. Realizing my error, I flicked the kill switch back on....with a 1/2 open throttle....then every things got dark and exciting all at once when the front wheel went skyward, along with the light beam (It needs something to shineon and the road was not up there)....and my throttle hand let go of the grip because it was ill prepared for the other jerk while it flicked the kill switch back on.
With no throttle the power dropped off and the front came down quick and the lights came back on...but the other hand...the one still holding the left grip...had pulled the front wheel around...I still shiver when I recall the violence of the wobble....

[Gremlin]

You do realise you make things unnecessarily exciting huh? :lol:

[LBD]

You do realise you make things unnecessarily exciting huh? :lol:

I guess I would not have mentioned it if it sounded like this...."Riding my bike one night I accidently hit the kill switch instead of dipping the lights..."
....does not have the same omph.

[FJRider]

I guess I would not have mentioned it if it sounded like this...."Riding my bike one night I accidently hit the kill switch instead of dipping the lights..."
....does not have the same omph.

Like ... I just missed hitting a cow at 3am on the west coast near Harihari ... :eek5:

(had I reached out ... I could have patted it)

[nzspokes]

So how do you guys get on when running extra lights when you go on to dip beam? I struggle with that a bit.

[nzspokes]

Guy with the XJ750 just got back to me. Hes said its all good apart from a little blue smoke under choke on first starting. That could be just valve seals leaking down or something worse. Think I will go have a look.

[Maha]

FJ 1100?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-411536927.htm

CBX 750?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-425813149.htm

[nzspokes]

FJ 1100?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-411536927.htm

CBX 750?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-425813149.htm

Had seen them, the FJ looks good. The Honda bothers me a bit with the oil in the frame system on them. Not sure on that.

But ive been offered some finance but due to intrest rates etc I cant really go over $1500.

If I could get to 2.5 I would be going to see that FJ or the GSX750.

[Maha]

With that sort of money at your disposal...become a legend and do it on GN250 with a sheepskin!

[nzspokes]

With that sort of money at your disposal...become a legend and do it on GN250 with a sheepskin!

Well I would rather do it on my bike then. At least it can just about do the speed limit! Just gotta rev the nuts off it.

But am going to Colmans today to have a little dream, taking the kids to Rocket park playground and Colmans is not far from that.

[LBD]

So how do you guys get on when running extra lights when you go on to dip beam? I struggle with that a bit.

There are a couple of grey areas regarding extra lighting...like a maximum of 2 forward facing head lights at one time. On some bikes with 2 head lights but 4 globes, (2 high 2 low) you can wire them so the low beam is on perminantly and only the high beam dips...I have also ridden a bike that had converted the low beam to HID units and left them on perminantly that worked fine and oncoming traffic did not seem concerned.

With regards to "extra" lighting like my 2 HID spots I have. They were on their own switch and the beam was directed low enough not to anoy on comming traffic. I have orange diffusers silicone covers so they pass warrant as fog lights whice are legal to have with dual head lights. When riding country at night I remove the difusers and lift the beam to shine into the distance...but I need to be fast switching them off. I have the wiring being altered as I write so they go through a relay wired in with the high beam so when I dip my high bean, the fog lights turn off.

[slofox]

All real good points. I back myself to do it.

Turning the lights off would be a fear of mine, kinda thing I would do. :facepalm:

Years ago I was riding the port hills road above Christchurch one dark and moonless night. The headlight bulb blew just as I was rounding a corner - with a vertical face rising up on my right and a fifty gazillion foot drop on my left. Unfenced in those days.

That was scary.

[FJRider]

Years ago I was riding the port hills road above Christchurch one dark and moonless night. The headlight bulb blew just as I was rounding a corner - with a vertical face rising up on my right and a fifty gazillion foot drop on my left. Unfenced in those days.

That was scary.

I think you exaggerate ... A 43 gazillion foot drop is the biggest you'll find up there ... :eek5:

[FJRider]

Guy with the XJ750 just got back to me. Hes said its all good apart from a little blue smoke under choke on first starting. That could be just valve seals leaking down or something worse. Think I will go have a look.

That mileage ... it WILL use oil ....

Not that BIG an issue. The old XJ I had did a 1000 miler ... 11 litres of oil ...

The one you are looking at however ... should use a little less. It mat not leave a smoke trail ... but the oil level WILL need to be watched.

Offer $1000 CASH ... and tell him you are doing HIM a favour ... :killingme

[nzspokes]

That mileage ... it WILL use oil ....

Not that BIG an issue. The old XJ I had did a 1000 miler ... 11 litres of oil ...

The one you are looking at however ... should use a little less. It mat not leave a smoke trail ... but the oil level WILL need to be watched.

Offer $1000 CASH ... and tell him you are doing HIM a favour ... :killingme

Im used to checking the oil, do so every weekend on my CBX. So no biggie.

Going to see it tonight.

[slofox]

I think you exaggerate ... A 43 gazillion foot drop is the biggest you'll find up there ... :eek5:

I exaggerate for effect you unnerstand...besides, I bet if I'd fallen off it, it woulda felt like 50 gazillion feet...

[Subike]

I get a small puff of smoke out of my XS1100 upon starting (178000miles)
but the amount of oil is so small, that I have not needed to top her up between oil changes.
I more important thing to look for IMO is a leaking seal around the gear lever,
a very easy fix, and the only place on an XJ that I know off that could be an issue.
From talking with other IL4 yammy owners, aside from FJRider, they concur with this.
How long has this XJ750 been sitting?

[nzspokes]

I get a small puff of smoke out of my XS1100 upon starting (178000miles)
but the amount of oil is so small, that I have not needed to top her up between oil changes.
I more important thing to look for IMO is a leaking seal around the gear lever,
a very easy fix, and the only place on an XJ that I know off that could be an issue.
From talking with other IL4 yammy owners, aside from FJRider, they concur with this.
How long has this XJ750 been sitting?

2 years but has been brought up to WOF standard which it just got. has had fork seals etc.

[Subike]

Then the oil burning will subside with more useage
I would strongly advise you change the brake fluid , 2 years sitting it can absorb a lot of moisture.
Also change the hypoid oil in the diff and middle drive.
you should also find a grease nipple just in front of the diff on the torque tude, ( left side of swing arm)
pump a bit of grease into this, as it lubricates the drive splines and the ""throw"" lubes the universal joint as well over time.

[caspernz]

Can't complain about Yammie IL4s, had an XJ900 that I traded in when it had clicked over 250000. Oil was being used, but not to the point of worrying me.

Then again I had a GN250 as a first bike that managed serious distances as well, albeit without the urgency of anything that came after it.

Nowadays, GSX750F, HID headlight conversion, Scottoiler, hot grips, touring screen and all ya gotta do is fuel up and go. Quite easy to run 1000km days without trying too hard.

[LBD]

Nowadays, GSX750F, HID headlight conversion, Scottoiler, hot grips, touring screen .

Yeh I recko that would cover the important items...especially the scottoiler on the XJ...:facepalm:

But yes, some wind protection, warm hands, a reliable bike, good lighting added to a comfy seat and riding position and away you go. You should probably have a small carrier or panniers to cary a bit of gear...and I alway tote 5 to 10 L gas, so somewher convenient for that...Good gear to keep dry and something to prevent that first dribble of rain down the neck is important

The "luxuries" then include heated vest and if you wanted to be really decadent...heated socks....but that is getting a bit girly for a tough biker.

[LBD]

I think you exaggerate ... A 43 gazillion foot drop is the biggest you'll find up there ...


I exaggerate for effect you unnerstand...besides, I bet if I'd fallen off it, it woulda felt like 50 gazillion feet...

Last I checked, a Gazillion's foot was less than a meter long....sounds about right for a Ports Hills drop off :pinch:

[nzspokes]

I went, I saw, I liked. Only issues I can see is not operating nutureal light, not well repaired fairing, tank could do with external paint and it has new Shinko tyres.

Nice bike but a little rough. I would be very happy to own it though. Nice guy selling it, hes got a collection of 70s bikes.

Now find some coin.....

[FJRider]

I went, I saw, I liked. Only issues I can see is not operating nutureal light, not well repaired fairing, tank could do with external paint and it has new Shinko tyres.

Nice bike but a little rough. I would be very happy to own it though. Nice guy selling it, hes got a collection of 70s bikes.

Now find some coin.....

Neutral light problem is probably a bulb gone.

Made an offer ... ???

[Subike]

I went, I saw, I liked. Only issues I can see is not operating nutureal light, not well repaired fairing, tank could do with external paint and it has new Shinko tyres.

Nice bike but a little rough. I would be very happy to own it though. Nice guy selling it, hes got a collection of 70s bikes.

Now find some coin.....

Agree it might only be the bulb, but it also could be just a wire off the sensor
which is located under the frame on the left side of the sump pan, very easy to get at,
Had a similar problem, replaced sensor, fixed problem,
The Shinko tires are OK for that bike, I have used them on my xs11's for the past 7 yrs, with no worries.
Sounds like you are getting a good deal to me.

[nzspokes]

Neutral light problem is probably a bulb gone.

Made an offer ... ???

My guess is neutral sensor, wire is off and when you earth it the light stays on.

No offer yet, checked the finance deal I was offered and again the intrest rate is huge. Stupid thing is I want to pay it off by May next year but they charge big pay off fees.

Will see what I can work out next week.

Somebody on the auction is saying carjam says the bikes done 200+ks, ive read the report. Im happy with the ks.

[nzspokes]

Agree it might only be the bulb, but it also could be just a wire off the sensor
which is located under the frame on the left side of the sump pan, very easy to get at,
Had a similar problem, replaced sensor, fixed problem,
The Shinko tires are OK for that bike, I have used them on my xs11's for the past 7 yrs, with no worries.
Sounds like you are getting a good deal to me.

Is the sensor expensive? Had to replace?

Just got a thing about Shinkos, wanna buy a spare set? :niceone:

[Subike]

Is the sensor expensive? Had to replace?

Just got a thing about Shinkos, wanna buy a spare set? :niceone:



The sensor is basically a switch accessible under the left side of the bike,
It is probably a multi fit unit for a range of Yamaha models and thus probably rather cheap,
But most likely the wire has come off of it.
Shenkos have improved in quality over the past few year, and there has been much discussion about them on this site,
Do a search and read the comments before discarding them.
I believe that they are the new Yokohama, and are now being used for track racing, but I could be wrong on that point.
As for a spare set? wrong size for the XS11's

[nzspokes]

The sensor is basically a switch accessible under the left side of the bike,
It is probably a multi fit unit for a range of Yamaha models and thus probably rather cheap,
But most likely the wire has come off of it.
Shenkos have improved in quality over the past few year, and there has been much discussion about them on this site,
Do a search and read the comments before discarding them.
I believe that they are the new Yokohama, and are now being used for track racing, but I could be wrong on that point.
As for a spare set? wrong size for the XS11's

Yeah the wire is off as it was on all the time so the sensor must have a dead short in it.

I think the tyres are 18".

[Gremlin]

So how do you guys get on when running extra lights when you go on to dip beam? I struggle with that a bit.
When I first had the lights fitted I was running 4 light switches controlling lights, which was bloody nuts. I still have the same switches but more for turning them on and off, but a relay is fitted, so when flicking the high switch, it goes from low (HID low and 2 big spots on low) to high (HID low, +90% bulb high, 2 big spots on high and 2 smaller spots). One switch controls the switch, much easier and safer all round when dealing with oncoming vehicles.

[nzspokes]

When I first had the lights fitted I was running 4 light switches controlling lights, which was bloody nuts. I still have the same switches but more for turning them on and off, but a relay is fitted, so when flicking the high switch, it goes from low (HID low and 2 big spots on low) to high (HID low, +90% bulb high, 2 big spots on high and 2 smaller spots). One switch controls the switch, much easier and safer all round when dealing with oncoming vehicles.

The bikes im looking at all seem to have rectangular headlights, was kinda thinking of fitting dual round lights in there. Maybe one HID and one normal.

Ive seen a couple with a spot light hung under the fairing so could look at that to.

[FJRider]

My guess is neutral sensor, wire is off and when you earth it the light stays on.

No offer yet, checked the finance deal I was offered and again the intrest rate is huge. Stupid thing is I want to pay it off by May next year but they charge big pay off fees.

Will see what I can work out next week.

Somebody on the auction is saying carjam says the bikes done 200+ks, ive read the report. Im happy with the ks.

I could live with no neutral light ... Dont panic yet ... other XJ's may show up, they often do. It wont be the end of the world if you dont get THIS one.

With bikes of this age ... km's aren't really that important (unless they are LOW. Not the case with this one)

[nzspokes]

I could live with no neutral light ... Dont panic yet ... other XJ's may show up, they often do. It wont be the end of the world if you dont get THIS one.

With bikes of this age ... km's aren't really that important (unless they are LOW. Not the case with this one)

Not in super hurry. Was more going to see if I liked the size but I do think its a strong honest bike that would be a great rolling resto. And I think it would be easy to mod to my needs.

[LBD]

The bikes im looking at all seem to have rectangular headlights, was kinda thinking of fitting dual round lights in there. Maybe one HID and one normal.

Ive seen a couple with a spot light hung under the fairing so could look at that to.

If you have different globes for high beam and low beam...then a perminantly on low beam HID is a great easy option...

[Subike]

The bikes im looking at all seem to have rectangular headlights, was kinda thinking of fitting dual round lights in there. Maybe one HID and one normal.

Ive seen a couple with a spot light hung under the fairing so could look at that to.

I changed the single large square headlamp of my XS11 for a pair of 75mm round lights, they were a bolt on change.
I have them wired up so that low beam is the left hand lamp, High beam is both lamps. But....

The std Yamaha wiring is not up to the amperage draw for running two 100w high beam bulbs, and Yamaha also have a relay that trips the high beam to low beam if the high beam filament fails.
To enable the usage of twin 100w high beam lamps, I have removed the low beam relay and wired in two 30amp relays for the headlamps.
These have their own main fuse to the battery as the std wiring and main fuse is not strong enough to carry the power for two lamps continuously on high beam.
This was not a difficult job, or an expensive one, under $50 spent on parts, and about 2 hrs fitting.
I looked at fitting a HID lamp to the right side, but have found two 100w ordinary lamps more the suffice for night riding.
Another point to be aware of when fitting extra lamps to any bike, is what capacity the alternator has.
Most put out around 10amps more than the bike needs to run, remember higher output alternators require HP to drive them.
Fitting more lamps can put a drain on the alternator that forces it to work at max for much longer than it was designed to do from new.
More lights might mean better visibility, but can also reduce reliability by the same amount,
If you are doing this for lighting on the 1000k ride, be sure your system can cope with 8 hours continuous amperage drain at max output.

[nzspokes]

I changed the single large square headlamp of my XS11 for a pair of 75mm round lights, they were a bolt on change.
I have them wired up so that low beam is the left hand lamp, High beam is both lamps. But....

The std Yamaha wiring is not up to the amperage draw for running two 100w high beam bulbs, and Yamaha also have a relay that trips the high beam to low beam if the high beam filament fails.
To enable the usage of twin 100w high beam lamps, I have removed the low beam relay and wired in two 30amp relays for the headlamps.
These have their own main fuse to the battery as the std wiring and main fuse is not strong enough to carry the power for two lamps continuously on high beam.
This was not a difficult job, or an expensive one, under $50 spent on parts, and about 2 hrs fitting.
I looked at fitting a HID lamp to the right side, but have found two 100w ordinary lamps more the suffice for night riding.
Another point to be aware of when fitting extra lamps to any bike, is what capacity the alternator has.
Most put out around 10amps more than the bike needs to run, remember higher output alternators require HP to drive them.
Fitting more lamps can put a drain on the alternator that forces it to work at max for much longer than it was designed to do from new.
More lights might mean better visibility, but can also reduce reliability by the same amount,
If you are doing this for lighting on the 1000k ride, be sure your system can cope with 8 hours continuous amperage drain at max output.

They have an external alternator? Could this be rewound?

[Subike]

They have an external alternator? Could this be rewound?


Sorry internal alternator, can be rewound, but finding someone to do it would be a mission.

remember modern electronics is replacement not repair

[nzspokes]

remember modern electronics is replacement not repair

Since when is 85 modern? LOL

Think there is a guy in Beachlands that does motorcycle rewinds.

[FJRider]

The XJ750 I did the 1000 MILER on had a 40 watt bulb. So I followed a CX500 Turbo for a large part of the evening ... I was going wherever HE was going ... :facepalm:

[FJRider]

Since when is 85 modern? LOL

Think there is a guy in Beachlands that does motorcycle rewinds.

Talk with an auto sparky first ... a bulb with a wattage increase will help.

[nzspokes]

Talk with an auto sparky first ... a bulb with a wattage increase will help.

Or I could get this, http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-421079666.htm

I would think the electrics would have been up to the job?

[FJRider]

First things first. Get the money together ... without taking out a loan if possible. The GC is 11 months away. Set yourself a target of say July to get a bike that is suitable to do it on. A 600-650 would be quite capable as well. And (usually) cheaper to run.

This one ... ??? Possibly a side-stand cut-out switch issue ... ???

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-427194822.htm


Might be worth asking a few questions about this one ...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-426392545.htm


And these are also worth a look ...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-426912897.htm


But probably ... the XJ you were looking at would most likely be the easier to get.

[Subike]

Or I could get this, http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-421079666.htm

I would think the electrics would have been up to the job?


that would be a good bike, well serviced for the first years of its life.
electrics would have been boosted for police work.
And it has plenty of luggage space,
and another trusty shafty

those ones FJ listed, would be ok if you wanted spares,
you don't want to buy a non running non reg fixer upper,
More trouble than they are worth
They are not on the road for a reason.....

[Kickaha]

First things first. Get the money together ... without taking out a loan if possible. The GC is 11 months away. Set yourself a target of say July to get a bike that is suitable to do it on. A 600-650 would be quite capable as well. And (usually) cheaper to run.

This one ... ??? Possibly a side-stand cut-out switch issue ... ???

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-427194822.htm

But probably ... the XJ you were looking at would most likely be the easier to get.

Piss off you bastard I'm already bidding on it, plates are dead so there would be a cost to re rego it but it would be a good choice if the price doesn't get to high

The second year i did the GC a NSR80 finished it

[FJRider]

that would be a good bike, well serviced for the first years of its life.

And usually thrashed for the last years ... :killingme


They are not on the road for a reason.....

And usually because the owner doesn't know whats wrong with it, and can't afford to pay somebody to fix it .... Or find out what the problem is. With a workshop manual and the VAST wealth of knowledge here on KB ... NO worries there ...eh .... !!! :killingme

The Kawasaki GT750 is probably the BETTER buy ... a reliable shaftie, but in Napier... :pinch:

Seriously ... ask a few questions about it ... :yes:

[FJRider]

Piss off you bastard I'm already bidding on it, plates are dead so there would be a cost to re rego it but it would be a good choice if the price doesn't get to high

If it was on the mainland ... I would bid on it too ...

Either side stand cut out switch, or solinoid switch issues I'm picking ...


The second year i did the GC a NSR80 finished it

You would need a sense of humour to do it on one of those ... and a thick sheepskin on it ...

[nzspokes]

that would be a good bike, well serviced for the first years of its life.
electrics would have been boosted for police work.
And it has plenty of luggage space,
and another trusty shafty

those ones FJ listed, would be ok if you wanted spares,
you don't want to buy a non running non reg fixer upper,
More trouble than they are worth
They are not on the road for a reason.....

Carjam report on it looks good. I kinda like it to be honest as it has all that I want on it. A tidy up and a bit of paint would go a long way.

[FJRider]

that would be a good bike, well serviced for the first years of its life.

True ... well ... serviced anyway ... Oil and filters changed at the prescribed periods ... by the apprentice at the shops with the Goverment contract usually ...


electrics would have been boosted for police work.

Actually they weren't ... a few flashing lights and a radio were all the "extra's they had ... very little stopped time, so recharging was not an issue .... :yawn:

And was it Police, or MOT use ... ???


And it has plenty of luggage space,

those panniers would struggle to hold a (cheap) sleeping bag .... :crazy:


and another trusty shafty

More people should "Get shafted" ... :woohoo:

Good advice to those moving up to bigger bikes, from the learner stages ...


those ones FJ listed, would be ok if you wanted spares,
you don't want to buy a non running non reg fixer upper,
More trouble than they are worth
They are not on the road for a reason.....



And YOU never have ... ??? and all the bikes you have aquired were LEGAL and running ... ??? and still are ... ???

Not legal does not mean not fixable ... by somebody with ability (or friends) capable of fixing them ...

[Subike]

And YOU never have ... ??? and all the bikes you have aquired were LEGAL and running ... ??? and still are ... ???

Not legal does not mean not fixable ... by somebody with ability (or friends) capable of fixing them ...

Just because I owned and operated a business recycleing vehicles for 10 years, and in that time trashed more bikes than you have ridden.
And the implication that I acquired bikes in any other way....sad comment FJ
Add to that I am a qualified Mechanic, I don't need friends to "fix en up"
Now where does that imply that my own bikes were crap. How many new out of the box bikes have you owned FJ?
Bought new, 380 Suzuki
Bought new 1100 sportster
Bought new 250 Kawasaki LTD
Got Married, end of new bikes
Now if I was to list the other bikes I have had in my possession the page is not long enough.
My current ride? You survive two marriages and within 3 years of the last one buy a new bike...
As for the comment on the Public Service garage, that serviced Police & Mot vehicles....well.. never seen one break down in a chase.
Requirements for a garage to service a police or mot vehicle are a little more stringent than the local back yarder that you pay peanuts to.

[FJRider]

Just because I owned and operated a business recycleing vehicles for 10 years, and in that time trashed more bikes than you have ridden.
And the implication that I acquired bikes in any other way....sad comment FJ
Add to that I am a qualified Mechanic, I don't need friends to "fix en up"
Now where does that imply that my own bikes were crap. How many new out of the box bikes have you owned FJ?
Bought new, 380 Suzuki
Bought new 1100 sportster
Bought new 250 Kawasaki LTD
Got Married, end of new bikes
Now if I was to list the other bikes I have had in my possession the page is not long enough.
My current ride? You survive two marriages and within 3 years of the last one buy a new bike...
As for the comment on the Public Service garage, that serviced Police & Mot vehicles....well.. never seen one break down in a chase.
Requirements for a garage to service a police or mot vehicle are a little more stringent than the local back yarder that you pay peanuts to.

I NEVER MEAN'T TO IMPLY ANY OF YOUR AQUISITIONS WERE NOT LEGAL. IF IT SEEMS LIKE I DID .... MY APOLOGIES ... That was NOT what I meant. NOR did I intend for ANY implication ANY of YOUR bikes were CRAP. AGAIN .. MY APOLIGIES IF IT SEEMED SO. Although how YOU came to that conclusion evades me ...

I have never bought new ... in a lot of the cases , they WERE fixer-uppers ... (fixed myself usually/sometimes, with the aid of a WORKSHOP MANUAL ...) My finances never could afford such luxuries as NEW.

As I lived in Trentham for a few years (Back when Police and MOT lived there) ... I am familiar with their servicing practices (then) ...

Most of the goverment vehicles were kept untill the warranty's ran out. (Still do I think) ... much the same as rental cars ...

And in '85 ... there weren't as many chases ... :lol:

[nzspokes]

Think my training for the event is going well. Went out with a mate today and we only did 180ks, feel ripped offby the lack of Ks today. But hes snoozing on the couch.

[FJRider]

Think my training for the event is going well. Went out with a mate today and we only did 180ks, feel ripped offby the lack of Ks today. But hes snoozing on the couch.

Just to get the idea what it's like ... do the SAME trip NINE times in the SAME day ... (under 24 hours ... :eek5:

[Matt_TG]

This one ... ??? Possibly a side-stand cut-out switch issue ... ???

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-427194822.htm



My FJ did the exact same thing as detailed on that auction, in conjunction with the fuel pump failing as it turned out Bike spluttered to a stop, thankfully I was only 2 kms from home, but she's a heavy cow to push for 2 kms. Anyway, it turned out that the ignition fuse had blown, the neutral light would come on and when I pressed start the fuel and oil red lights would flash but nothing else happened. Once I replaced the fuse she turned over but didn't start. Tracked the next problem to be the fuel pump, which was not working - replaced that and all good :)

The above bike may have a similar fuse issue.

[FJRider]

My FJ did the exact same thing as detailed on that auction, in conjunction with the fuel pump failing as it turned out Bike spluttered to a stop, thankfully I was only 2 kms from home, but she's a heavy cow to push for 2 kms. Anyway, it turned out that the ignition fuse had blown, the neutral light would come on and when I pressed start the fuel and oil red lights would flash but nothing else happened. Once I replaced the fuse she turned over but didn't start. Tracked the next problem to be the fuel pump, which was not working - replaced that and all good :)

The above bike may have a similar fuse issue.

I tried to start MY FJ on the sunday of a Brass Monkey a year or so back ... in gear it was ... side stand DOWN ... oh the shame and ridicule ... :facepalm:

[LBD]

Just to get the idea what it's like ... do the SAME trip NINE times in the SAME day ... (under 24 hours ... :eek5:

Some us gotta be barking mad :crazy::crazy::crazy:

But about training....it is good for you to understand your limitations..I consider that to be the single most important safety factor for endurance riding....knowing the signs when your body wants to nod off.

The second most important thing is not letting ego get in the way, If you feel you may need a break....stop and have a break...I am a fan of the 30 minute power nap...anywhere any time.

Get up at 3 am and go for a ride out in the country on a quiet road....I know many of us find dawn and the next hour or so very difficult as the eyes strain to adjust to the changing light...for me that is when I am most at risk.

Once you understand yourself and your limits, then practicing before a run in my opinion, is not that necessary...although the riding is fun...I know others will disagree with me on that score.

[FJRider]

Some us gotta be barking mad :crazy::crazy::crazy:

A pack of loonies the lot of us ... :yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:


But about training....it is good for you to understand your limitations..I consider that to be the single most important safety factor for endurance riding....knowing the signs when your body wants to nod off.

A 1000 km day ride is a good practice ride, actually two are better. One starting at 6 AM ... the other starting at 6 PM.

The mob of Elephants crossing the road ahead IS a giveaway ... :facepalm: If you want to sleep ... try to. If you can, you need it. If you cant, you dont need it.


The second most important thing is not letting ego get in the way, If you feel you may need a break....stop and have a break...I am a fan of the 30 minute power nap...anywhere any time.

yep ... Ego's can kill ya. What you ride is not that high on the priority list either.

You dont need a sleeping bag, if your gear keeps you warm at speed ... at night. Stopped and lying down ... it will do the same.


Get up at 3 am and go for a ride out in the country on a quiet road....I know many of us find dawn and the next hour or so very difficult as the eyes strain to adjust to the changing light...for me that is when I am most at risk.

I find the most tiring part is just at daybreak. A 10 minute stop for coffee from the flask is good. (the same way I like my women ... Hot and strong ... black for better effect)


Once you understand yourself and your limits, then practicing before a run in my opinion, is not that necessary...although the riding is fun...I know others will disagree with me on that score.

Knowing the effects of stopping ... Time stopped can never be regained. 5 minutes stopped can mean 10-15 minutes lost untill you get back up to speed... with your head in the right thinking mode.

Faith in your OWN ability is a plus. If you doubt yourself ... go home.

Dont think too far ahead. Two things on your mind ... where you get the next tank of gas, and the hundred metres of road ahead of you. Think further ahead and it will do your head in.

I have yet to hear of anybody complete a 1000 miler ... and say it was easy. If it was ... everybody would be doing it ...

[LBD]

The mob of Elephants crossing the road ahead IS a giveaway ... :facepalm:

I have yet to hear of anybody complete a 1000 miler ... and say it was easy. If it was ... everybody would be doing it ...

Pink?...Truth be told Elephants are not my nemisis...I am more of a Camel bloke....late one night on a very quiet country road, when I was a little weary.... there was a camel right in the middle of the road, in the head lights. (Toyota) On the brakes...then I thought Camel? I must be halucinating....then , as I watched it lope sedately off into the meadow... I remembered where I was.

Its not easy and thats why we do it...for the fun... the challange...good times...bonhomie on KB dribbling about our acheivements...MLC... and other really wild reasons that made sense at the time...

[FJRider]

Pink?...Truth be told Elephants are not my nemisis ...

Its not easy and thats why we do it...for the fun... the challange...good times...bonhomie on KB dribbling about our acheivements...MLC... and other really wild reasons that made sense at the time..

Oh the things you may see ... :facepalm:

mmmmm ... even at the time ... making sense of it usually eluded me ... however ... I did it anyway.

It was only fun after you finished ...

During ... there was too much to do and think about ...

As for the bad/scarey times DURING ... I prefer to forget. Otherwise I'd NEVER do it again.

Funny things memorys ...

[Pedrostt500]

Reading some earlier posts on this thread, about blowing head lamps, here is some thing i made up and fitted to an old XL500, and worked reasonably well for a 6volt system. ( there is a thread with pics in classic bikes, though you may need to search a bit for it.)

Buy a driving light set that uses, MR16 halogen bulbs from an auto sparky or repco or Supa Cheap,
Buy 2 MR16 LED CREE LED ( Cat No ZD-0352 ) they are about $ 70.00 each from Jay car, they put out 270lm each for brightness, take the halogen bulbs out of the driving light set and fit the LEDs, and mount to your bike as you see fit, I wired mine into the park light circuit, and fitted a fuse, as a precaution. these lights worked well but were no substitute for a head lamp, but would get you out of the crap, utill you could fit the spare bulb you carry with you.

I did a lot of driving between CHCH and Aucks about 7 or 8 yrs ago, some times we could be driving for up to 48 to 52 hrs at one time ( no we wern't driving trucks), I found plenty of fresh cold drinking water, was the best for keeping awake while driving for long hours, to many Vee's and the likes just crashed the body into a worse place than where you started, lots of coffee and no doz had a simmilar effect. There is no substitute for sleep, so as said above a power nap is a good thing.

I think good preperation of both bike and rider is a good thing, service and tune the bike, new or near new tyres won't let you down as near bald ones will, and carry a few spare bits in your tool kit, ie head light bulb, spare break & or clutch leaver, a roll of insulation tape, a few cable ties, a spare chain link joiner, etc.
As for the rider some mental preperation is not to be over looked, as well as doing some practice Ks.

[Gremlin]

Think my training for the event is going well. Went out with a mate today and we only did 180ks, feel ripped offby the lack of Ks today. But hes snoozing on the couch.
Just remember, re distance, it's also cumulative. Ie, 360km isn't just 2x 180km when you get to 800+km. I also find that going over the 1000km mark and towards 1600km is much more difficult than doing 1000km.


Some us gotta be barking mad :crazy::crazy::crazy:

But about training....it is good for you to understand your limitations..I consider that to be the single most important safety factor for endurance riding....knowing the signs when your body wants to nod off.

Get up at 3 am and go for a ride out in the country on a quiet road....I know many of us find dawn and the next hour or so very difficult as the eyes strain to adjust to the changing light...for me that is when I am most at risk.

Once you understand yourself and your limits, then practicing before a run in my opinion, is not that necessary...although the riding is fun...I know others will disagree with me on that score.
I believe one of the hardest periods is shortly after your body is convinced that on a normal timetable you should now be asleep. Because I sleep at variable times, around 9-10am my body believes the emergency is over, someone is now taking over, and it's time to sleep. Hence, I struggle at that time, but I'm fine during the night, dawn etc. Other thing is terrain. Give me a twisty road, I'm wide awake. Straight roads are absolutely my nemesis, and this can literally cycle as I encounter different terrain.

I think practising is important. I put it under the category of ride fit, which, when doing these distances, really is a factor. Anybody can sit on a seat for an hour or two, but try doing it for 10+ hours. The more you do it, the easier it is, both physically and mentally. Essentially, it's just like training for a marathon or suchlike.

btw, I'm not crazy, you're all the crazy ones :bleh:

I have yet to hear of anybody complete a 1000 miler ... and say it was easy. If it was ... everybody would be doing it ...
Actually, I found the 2010 Grand Challenge quite easy. Trotted home in 17h 40min I think, didn't have the usual "why on earth am I doing this?" etc. Ride was actually easier than some of the training ones, but I had done 8000km of prep riding in the 1-1.5months prior.

[FJRider]

Actually, I found the 2010 Grand Challenge quite easy. Trotted home in 17h 40min I think, didn't have the usual "why on earth am I doing this?" etc. Ride was actually easier than some of the training ones, but I had done 8000km of prep riding in the 1-1.5months prior.

I agree with all you said. And my second WAS easier than the first. Knowing WHAT to expect helps.

One I did was twice over the Arthurs pass ... the first time in daylight ... (No keas on the second time)

Some times ... the middle of the night is pure MAGIC ...

[Gremlin]

Some times ... the middle of the night is pure MAGIC ...
Best night moment I've had...

Went up to Cape Reinga with a couple of mates on a quick trip from Auckland. Hit the gravel (when it was still unsealed) in the early evening, came across a young fella newish to bikes coming back south, who'd come off, broken his ankle etc. His mate had gone to get help etc, we stayed with him. Long story short, Westpac was called due to location, all hands to the stretcher, Westpac was incredibly loud. However, when it left, only the two park lights of the rangers SUV remained, no clouds, just stars from horizon to horizon and eerily quiet. Really felt like a small dot on a landscape that would be with or without you. Worst part was you knew you could never capture the moment in a photo.

Other good moments are a strong moonlight, and as you're rounding corners the road is already lit from the moon. I actually really enjoy night riding for the most part. Only problem is you miss a lot of the views.

[caspernz]

Night running can be fun when it's around that full moon period on a clear sky. Almost eerie and yet so serene. Desert Road looks great in such conditions. Other big difference is the smell in the air compared to daytime. Only fun if you're in your thermals though I must add.....

[nzspokes]

Another random thought has been to rebuild my bike and keep it. Ok, it only 250 but I can keep good avaerage speeds on it. Would want to rebuild the motor and re-paint it. New rear shocks are a must have. The bike is light and comfortable apart from vibrations in the bars, may try some bar weights.

I think I need to wait and decide......


And ride, alot.

[Hitcher]

And ride, alot.

A lot. Allot is something completely different. And ride a lot at night.

[Fast Eddie]

this will do

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/06/16/nsu-2000cc-single-cylinder-motorcycle/

[nzspokes]

this will do

http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2008/06/16/nsu-2000cc-single-cylinder-motorcycle/

Thats cool. Bitch to kickstart I would think....

[nzspokes]

So the headlight has been re-wired and seems brighter. I tidied up a few other things to.

Also have tried a trick to reduce vibration which I w ill discuss if it works.

[FJRider]

Ok, it only 250 but I can keep good avaerage speeds on it. Would want to rebuild the motor and re-paint it. New rear shocks are a must have. The bike is light and comfortable apart from vibrations in the bars, may try some bar weights.

I think I need to wait and decide......


And ride, alot.

Unless it uses heaps of oil ... and is not reliable ... leave it the way it is. Paint job can wait. 1600 km's is a long way ... a lot can happen. Save the money for gas.
A good sheepskin attached with elastic/velcro is a good idea ... as well as comfortable shocks ... they may help too.

Ride not so much often ... but ever increasing distances ... untill a 1000 km day is not a big problem ...

[nzspokes]

Unless it uses heaps of oil ... and is not reliable ... leave it the way it is. Paint job can wait. 1600 km's is a long way ... a lot can happen. Save the money for gas.
A good sheepskin attached with elastic/velcro is a good idea ... as well as comfortable shocks ... they may help too.

Ride not so much often ... but ever increasing distances ... untill a 1000 km day is not a big problem ...

Main issue with current bike is mainly tune as in I would like to dyno tune it to make sure Ive got all it can give and replace the rear shocks. The back end bounces round turns a bit. It needs just a little more top end to help with overtaking which Im sure is in there. I need to give it a blowout in the primary carb as its surging a bit on part throttle, no biggy.

I do need to spend some real dollars for a new helmet, my AGV is great but known for being noisy which it is. The wind noise and motor noise on acceleration would be very tirering over a long time. Ive looked at the Shoei Qwest helmets which seem to be the best for noise.

[FJRider]

Main issue with current bike is mainly tune as in I would like to dyno tune it to make sure Ive got all it can give and replace the rear shocks. The back end bounces round turns a bit. It needs just a little more top end to help with overtaking which Im sure is in there. I need to give it a blowout in the primary carb as its surging a bit on part throttle, no biggy.

I do need to spend some real dollars for a new helmet, my AGV is great but known for being noisy which it is. The wind noise and motor noise on acceleration would be very tirering over a long time. Ive looked at the Shoei Qwest helmets which seem to be the best for noise.

It's an old 250 ... and if the bike can average 70 - 80 km's or more on the move ... you'll be fine. An overnight bag with a few tools and a torch. Plus a full 5 litre fuel container ... and go do it.

I have an AGV helmet ... four 1000 milers with it. (yes it is loud) save the money for the new bike ... or gas.

Do a few longer DAY rides before you do the distance at night.

[nzspokes]

Ive not checked my average speed when traveling by myself yet. But I see 70/75 on the road all the time.


Now should I get this and adapt it on?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/fairing/auction-427699138.htm

Would make her go faster? And better on gas?

[longwayfromhome]

...I do need to spend some real dollars for a new helmet, my AGV is great but known for being noisy which it is. The wind noise and motor noise on acceleration would be very tirering over a long time. Ive looked at the Shoei Qwest helmets which seem to be the best for noise.

...but, irrespective of the helmet, you do wear ear plugs don't you, good ones? For long distances, ear plugs are mandatory.

[Hitcher]

For long distances, ear plugs are mandatory.

For any distance where speeds exceed 50kmh, earplugs should be mandatory.

[nzspokes]

...but, irrespective of the helmet, you do wear ear plugs don't you, good ones? For long distances, ear plugs are mandatory.

Yes. If im going to go any speed over 60 I do.

[nzspokes]

So Im hoping to do a decent run this weekend. 400 to 500 k on Saturday. I want to see what speed I can average when riding alone. Also see what does and dosent hurt.

Have found in the warmer weather that my leather pants are cooler than my textile ones. And that I get sore legs in my textile ones but not in the leathers. So thats easy.

I had to clean out the carbs for the first time in the 8k Ive had the bike, I think the idle circut of the primary carb was a bit blocked as when you rolled on power (all tyre ripping 32hp) it died then came back on. Now sorted.

Going to get and try some gel grips to help with vibration. Going to try to get some fishing weights to but inside the bar ends to help that as well.

Would really like to reduce the noise of the motor so thinking about wrapping some aircleaner foam around the pods.

Last thing im going to fit a different bike computer that scrolls through its screens as has a average speed indicator so it tells you if your above or below. Also will mount it higher to be easier for quick glances.

[LBD]

Last thing im going to fit a different bike computer that scrolls through its screens as has a average speed indicator so it tells you if your above or below. Also will mount it higher to be easier for quick glances.

But be wary of disturbing your night vision....I hate dash type lights at night

[nzspokes]

But be wary of disturbing your night vision....I hate dash type lights at night

I can see it off my current dash lights. Wont be adding any to the dash. Agree that would be bad to have to much dash light.

[Gremlin]

But be wary of disturbing your night vision....I hate dash type lights at night
Actually, that's a good point. I have a square of tape over my high beam indicator light. I can still see the glow of blue around the edges of the tape, but riding at night with high beam on for long periods, the blue light is terribly piercing.

[nzspokes]

Actually, that's a good point. I have a square of tape over my high beam indicator light. I can still see the glow of blue around the edges of the tape, but riding at night with high beam on for long periods, the blue light is terribly piercing.

My high beam light was blue once, its kinda aqua now.

Speaking of lights, did I say how much better mine is now Ive fitted relays? :woohoo:

[nzspokes]

Did my first "fast" night ride tonight. Headlight is great now but need more, thinking of some secondry leds for slower speed turns.

But I had 4 issues.

1, Hit gravel at 100kph. Not sign posted on a back road. Its was a short stretch but the bike got very sideways. I just rolled off the throttle and she came right.

2, Rabbit jumped out, bit of a shock as I missed it by an inch our so.

3, I somehow after indicating I turned the lights off a 60kph. Glad I got a bright park light!!

4, I was approching a T intersection and a car turned into my lane and came towards me. I missed him just.

After the last one I went home.

[FJRider]

Some "riding lights" on each side angled out ... to see the the inside of the corners may help. They dont need to light up too far ahead ...

Un-signed gravel is the worst fear of riders on night rides ... look for warnings like cones/signs lying on the side of the road.

Ignore the rabbits .. they're pretty soft. Opossums on the other hand are quite solid ...

Switching lights off on a familar bike ... mmmmmm

Cars in your lane an night ... coming toward you ... a flash of high beam as soon as you see them, then get out of their way ...

Try an after midnight run .... doesn't need to be "high speed" ...

But welcome to the pleasures of the night ...

[nzspokes]

Switching lights off on a familar bike ... mmmmmm



Lol, I bumped it not turned it off. But yeah my fault.

Short ride but learned heaps.

I do think the "turning lights" area good idea, probably on a seperate circut from the main lights to be turned on when needed only.

Also the GPS is to distracting to leave on. Will only use it when needed.

[Gremlin]

Also keep an eye on the surface of the oncoming lane. If there's roadworks, you'll know the severity by observing the oncoming lane, as the cars have just been through it. Assuming it's across both lanes of course.

Wascally wabbits are soft, you'll get used to hitting them, but watch out for hares. You'll know it's one coz they're a whole lot bigger. I haven't hit one yet, but don't think I want to. :shit:

At times, riding at night is nice and relaxing. Other times, you wished it was day.

[nzspokes]

Also keep an eye on the surface of the oncoming lane. If there's roadworks, you'll know the severity by observing the oncoming lane, as the cars have just been through it. Assuming it's across both lanes of course.



It was where a side road had roadworks and i passed the end of it. Was a country road so no traffic or even catseyes.