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Crasherfromwayback
30th November 2011, 14:47
now that TSS won't be doing them?

Paul in NZ
30th November 2011, 14:48
I fixed an FZR once - maybe I could be?

Smiff-ta
30th November 2011, 15:39
Who would want to

Crasherfromwayback
30th November 2011, 15:41
Who would want to

We were Yamaha Dealers waaaaaaaay back when I started here, and they were quite difficult to deal with then.

blackdog
30th November 2011, 15:43
There was no money in them either when I was selling them.

HenryDorsetCase
30th November 2011, 15:47
great products poorly supported in NZ it seems.

Find me an 1986 RD350LC in a crate and we'll talk

Crasherfromwayback
30th November 2011, 15:58
Find me an 1986 RD350LC in a crate and we'll talk

We sure will. Cause I'll buy it and ring you going na na nana naaa

MD
30th November 2011, 19:05
The NZ motorcyle trade seems to be quite unique when it comes to the manufacturers changing outlets. Just observations I can remember in Wgtn;

Honda went from Motorad (MR) to Motomart (MM)
KTM went from MM to TSS
Yamaha went from MR to TSS
Triumph went from Wgtn Motorcycles to MR
Moto Guzzi went WMC- Sawyers-Scooterrazzi (not sure on their name)
MV went from MM to MR
Aprilia went from TSS to MR
Back further there were other Honda and Yamaha dealers based in the CBD no longer trading.
BMW went from MR to MM

Probably more but who's counting.
Keeps the sign writers in business

Hitcher
30th November 2011, 19:10
Do Suzuki or Yamaha have restraint of trade arrangements? Phil Turnbull must have been an anomaly.

SPman
30th November 2011, 19:17
Haldanes dropped Yamaha for Suzuki because they didn't have the product range and were going broke relying on Ducati.

blackdog
30th November 2011, 19:22
It will be a brave dealer that takes Yamaha on. On the other side of the coin, does Stu have something else lined up or is he going to live on KTM and Hyosung?

Actually two brands that hold a decent margin, I suppose he probably could.

Renegade
30th November 2011, 19:28
great products poorly supported in NZ it seems.

Find me an 1986 RD350LC in a crate and we'll talk

scratch me up for a crate too!

Hitcher
30th November 2011, 19:29
Yamaha in New Zealand has behaviour that intrigues me. Look at their web site and note the "range" of models available. Now look at Yamaha Australia's web site, noting its range of models.

Now do a model search on Motorcycle Trader for the models listed in Australia and not in New Zealand and note how many of those you find are brand spanking new. OK Yamaha New Zealand, why are you selling new bikes that aren't listed on your web site? And why don't you list a RRP, like every other new bike distributor does?

Crasherfromwayback
30th November 2011, 19:31
It will be a brave dealer that takes Yamaha on. On the other side of the coin, does Stu have something else lined up or is he going to live on KTM and Hyosung?

Actually two brands that hold a decent margin, I suppose he probably could.

We'll scrap and fight them for every single Suzuki sale I can promise you that much.

blackdog
30th November 2011, 19:41
We'll scrap and fight them for every single Suzuki sale I can promise you that much.

Jaysus. Have good relations with you both, fricken would have preferred he took Kwak or Trump off MR.

Robert Taylor
30th November 2011, 19:51
It will be a brave dealer that takes Yamaha on. On the other side of the coin, does Stu have something else lined up or is he going to live on KTM and Hyosung?

Actually two brands that hold a decent margin, I suppose he probably could.

Providing the dealers arent stupid enough to give most of their margin away.................

riffer
30th November 2011, 20:12
Seriously though, bike sales certainly isn't where the money's made.

The war will be fought on servicing.

BMWST?
30th November 2011, 20:38
cant beleive Suzuki have given a dealership to them when one of the best is only a few k away.

Crasherfromwayback
30th November 2011, 20:40
Seriously though, bike sales certainly isn't where the money's made.

The war will be fought on servicing.

No it won't.

Robert Taylor
30th November 2011, 22:12
Seriously though, bike sales certainly isn't where the money's made.

The war will be fought on servicing.

No it wont, and anyway why should there be a war between GOOD dealers. Every business deserves to make a fair and reasonable living, without risking their viability by getting sucked into dutch auction mentality.

Crasherfromwayback
1st December 2011, 07:00
No it wont, and anyway why should there be a war between GOOD dealers. Every business deserves to make a fair and reasonable living, without risking their viability by getting sucked into dutch auction mentality.

Which is exactly what Suzuki have just done. Gonna be some cheap Suzuki's going in the Wellington Area.

White trash
1st December 2011, 07:01
Here's the thing, when the number one performing Yamaha dealer in the country for 6 years running, can't keep its door opens and folds, you've got to wonder what the attraction is holding a franchise. Awesome product, great bikes, very difficult to work with. Shame.

Crasherfromwayback
1st December 2011, 07:02
Here's the thing, when the number one performing Yamaha dealer in the country for 6 years running, can't keep its door opens and folds, you've got to wonder what the attraction is holding a franchise. Awesome product, great bikes, very difficult to work with. Shame.

Few Suzuki dealerships have gone the same way mate.

White trash
1st December 2011, 07:56
Few Suzuki dealerships have gone the same way mate.

Agreed. I don't think there's simply the money in Japanese franchises to be able to rely solely on the revenue they provide.

Bytor
1st December 2011, 09:44
Haldanes dropped Yamaha for Suzuki because they didn't have the product range and were going broke relying on Ducati.

Pretty sure that Haldanes have suddenly stopped being a Suzuki dealer, now advertising as a Suzuki specialist. They seem to be stocking up on scooters to compliment the Ducati range :eek5:

Crasherfromwayback
1st December 2011, 09:49
Pretty sure that Haldanes have suddenly stopped being a Suzuki dealer, now advertising as a Suzuki specialist. They seem to be stocking up on scooters to compliment the Ducati range :eek5:

Correct. Haldanes are no longer a Suzuki dealer.

thecharmed01
1st December 2011, 10:27
Well, having seen lousy service from most bike shops, won't make much different to our crew as we just do it all ourselves now....
Anything we can't do, I'll source from out of town because Wellington bike shops are truly horrible to deal with.
I've tried buying local but honestly, all I've ever had is the run around, been told fairy tales by idiots and been told things aren't available when they are oh and the best ones, where I order VERY specific things and have idiots order different parts (because you know, they apparently knew better than I did) or try to pass off the wrong parts as the right ones, so I'm over it.

When we bought a new PW50 for our toddler a few months ago, we got it from Taumaranui as the bike shop were fantastic to deal with. They were helpful, friendly, got what we asked for when AND with no bullshit.
I bought both my Yamaha and my DRZ through a bike shop in Tauranga who both times (and especially when things went wrong) were fantastic to deal with. They even were great about replacing a split back guard that the bike transporters broke.
Gear wise, almost everything I have has been bought from a Hamilton Bike shop. They stock most things I've needed and it's been 2-3 day delivery even on things they had to order in specially because I'm so tiny.

Crasherfromwayback
1st December 2011, 10:31
Well, having seen lousy service from most bike shops, .

Sorry to hear you've had such lousy service from us all. It won't stop me sending out a "please, help stolen bike" email to every Suzuki dealer in NZ next time one of 'your crew' losses a bike though.

thecharmed01
1st December 2011, 10:33
Sorry to hear you've had such lousy service from us all. It won't stop me sending out a "please, help stolen bike" email to every Suzuki dealer in NZ next time one of 'your crew' losses a bike though.


Thanks, it's a shame that people in bike shops don't seem to want to be more helpful when I'm actually standing in the store with a thousand bucks to spend.

Crasherfromwayback
1st December 2011, 10:35
Thanks, it's a shame that people in bike shops don't seem to want to be more helpful when I'm actually standing in the store with a thousand bucks to spend.

If that ever happens in the store I work in, please come and see me personally and I'll make sure you get the service you should!

actungbaby
1st December 2011, 10:41
well we havent had one here in palmerston north for few years know seems werid

now that TSS won't be doing them?

thecharmed01
1st December 2011, 10:49
If that ever happens in the store I work in, please come and see me personally and I'll make sure you get the service you should!

Where do you work and who are you? LOL

actungbaby
1st December 2011, 10:55
Dude I dont know about here where live know manawatu but in christchurch used to be 4 honda dealers

Know my least fav is only one left

there where 2 suzuki dealers just in cdb am not sure theres one left eric woods sells harleys know

this was from my teen days in the 80,s one honda dealer retired whitings they exellent for spares i went in there one day when closing to get some small part walked out with brand new cyclinder head for my xl100 k2 1977

Ohter dealer i used to buy all bikes from hollands went suzuki cars


Agreed. I don't think there's simply the money in Japanese franchises to be able to rely solely on the revenue they provide.

Crasherfromwayback
1st December 2011, 11:01
Where do you work and who are you? LOL

Fair questions. I'm Pete, and I work for Wellington Motorcycles. Yes I ride in the dirt!

BuzzardNZ
1st December 2011, 11:09
Gonna be some cheap Suzuki's going in the Wellington Area.

like what?

Crasherfromwayback
1st December 2011, 11:14
like what?

Like the model you're after!

thecharmed01
1st December 2011, 11:20
Fair questions. I'm Pete, and I work for Wellington Motorcycles. Yes I ride in the dirt!

Hmmm someone there sold me Zeta levers a whiles back....
Bought as a surprise birthday present for the boy.

I didn't come back as it was promised they would be there for the day before and they weren't. They arrived late and he ended up having to go and collect them himself because the person who was supposed to order them forgot or something... Can't remember the exact issue but I remember that I felt like crap because he didn't get a present on his birthday.

BuzzardNZ
1st December 2011, 11:22
Like the model you're after!

well, if Suzuki put out a new V twin 1000+ sports, you've got yourself a sale. :yes:

Crasherfromwayback
1st December 2011, 11:28
Hmmm someone there sold me Zeta levers a whiles back....
Bought as a surprise birthday present for the boy.

I didn't come back as it was promised they would be there for the day before and they weren't. They arrived late and he ended up having to go and collect them himself because the person who was supposed to order them forgot or something... Can't remember the exact issue but I remember that I felt like crap because he didn't get a present on his birthday.

Yeah that's not cool!

Well if you ever feel like giving us another go, I'll do my best to make it happen as it should for you.

Crasherfromwayback
1st December 2011, 11:28
well, if Suzuki put out a new V twin 1000+ sports, you've got yourself a sale. :yes:

As much as I'd also like to see that, I can't see it happening!

thecharmed01
1st December 2011, 11:39
Yeah that's not cool!

Well if you ever feel like giving us another go, I'll do my best to make it happen as it should for you.


Might take you up on that. Just picked up a 2010 KTM which needs a few bits.
Exhaust, bark busters, a pair of Zeta levers, a new seat.....

Crasherfromwayback
1st December 2011, 11:44
Might take you up on that. Just picked up a 2010 KTM which needs a few bits.
Exhaust, bark busters, a pair of Zeta levers, a new seat.....

Feel free to email me a list of bits you want, and I'll send it on the the Spares Manager for you.

pmcdonald@wmcc.co.nz

Pete