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NJ001
1st December 2011, 12:49
Hi
I am strating this thread because I want to share my frustration with like-minded people. Since I have bought my bike, or even before that, every second person i meet who knows I am into motorcycles talks about accidents. It is always some other person they know of who had been in an accident. They often show interest in biking and most say they want to buy a m'cycle for themselves, but then inadvertently shift the topic to accidents. I hate such clairvoyants who claim to predict my destiny indirectly. And I am not talking about family and friends whose genuine concerns you can see. I say if you don't have anything nice to say then just shut your mouth. A simple `Be Safe' would suffice. I don't wanna talk about accidents and how people die. I have been driving cars for 15 years and I understand the risks. I have made an informed decision.

Sorry if I wasted anyone's time, but I need to get this out of my mind.

Cheers
N

bogan
1st December 2011, 12:52
I always just point out it is the people that have the accidents, not the machines.

george formby
1st December 2011, 12:54
Hi
I am strating this thread because I want to share my frustration with like-minded people. Since I have bought my bike, or even before that, every second person i meet who knows I am into motorcycles talks about accidents. It is always some other person they know of who had been in an accident. They often show interest in biking and most say they want to buy a m'cycle for themselves, but then inadvertently shift the topic to accidents. I hate such clairvoyants who claim to predict my destiny indirectly. And I am not talking about family and friends whose genuine concerns you can see. I say if you don't have anything nice to say then just shut your mouth. A simple `Be Safe' would suffice. I don't wanna talk about accidents and how people die. I have been driving cars for 15 years and I understand the risks. I have made an informed decision.

Sorry if I wasted anyone's time, but I need to get this out of my mind.

Cheers
Nitin

It's par for the course. If somebody is wittering on at me about the risks I usually clamp their lips with a curt retort about the lack of average driver ability, basically implying they are the risk. Tends to bring the conversation to an abrupt halt.

allycatz
1st December 2011, 12:55
Look on the bright side...at least you'll cark it doing something you enjoy:innocent:

nodrog
1st December 2011, 12:57
For fucksakes, harden up, they are only words.

`Be Safe'

ellipsis
1st December 2011, 13:14
...don't talk to anybody...

imdying
1st December 2011, 13:22
Yeah, I hate demotivators too!

<img src="http://www.licktheballs.com/sites/default/files/image_gallery/Goatse.jpg" />

george formby
1st December 2011, 13:24
Another take on this is the glass half full or half empty thing. Folk who look at the "awful things that might happen" are generally in the latter camp. Leave them too it.

george formby
1st December 2011, 13:25
Yeah, I hate demotivators too!

<img src="http://www.licktheballs.com/sites/default/files/image_gallery/Goatse.jpg" />

I had to google that & I've cursed myself for ever more now.:facepalm: Obvious really.

The Singing Chef
1st December 2011, 13:30
Another take on this is the glass half full or half empty thing. Folk who look at the "awful things that might happen" are generally in the latter camp. Leave them too it.

Weirdest thing happened the other day, I found 2 beer bottles and one was half empty and the other was half full. Was the oddest thing I have ever seen!!

You know I heard about this one guy, related to somebody who was like a cousin, twice removed or something. Well he had one of these motorcycles! He hurt himself very badly one day whilst going in to the city! Terrible gravel rash too!! Those things are dangerous and I think you should buy a mobility scooter instead. Be safe.

imdying
1st December 2011, 13:30
I know right! Damn temptation tempting me to google shite. I totally blame the demotivators.

DrunkenMistake
1st December 2011, 13:49
Seriously,
I know where the OP is coming from, but dude Motorcycling is a form of freedom, people want a slice of it, and if they cant have it, they wanna destroy it for you,
In a tin top your stuck in your lane, you have a solid white line and a broken white line on either side of your car, with fuck all room either side, thats no better than been stuck on a train, forced to follow its rails,
On a bike your still in that lane, but you can do as you please within it, you can take better lines into corners, you can weave about on the straight roads, you can do all sorts thats freedom of the road,
It annoys me how dull headed some people can be, I have been told many a time that I am selfish towards my family for riding a bike, I have been told I wont live to see 25, ill die in a horrific bike accident,
Do you know what I tell people when they tell me ill die in a bike accident?
Good, if dying while doing something I love is how im going to go, then I glad its the thing I love 2nd most. (I have to say this as my Mrs is beside me.. the bike knows it comes first.. :innocent:)
Iv done alot of good stuff in my life that I can be personally proud of and personally passionate about, but nothing outdoes my passion and pride than my motorcycle and my use of it.


hows that for some Malcolm x shit

Haggis2
1st December 2011, 13:50
Temporary kiwi?

GOATSE :sick:

slofox
1st December 2011, 14:09
Meh - I'm so friggin' old that killing myself on the bike would be for the greater good anyway! SO what the hey?

The cat'd probably be pissed off for half a day though...

superman
1st December 2011, 14:12
I've had the old death traps speech from many people, usually they have no idea what they're talking about. Share your knowledge of SQUIDS and that a high percentage of bikers are similar to a high percentage of boy racers that hoon far beyond their ability and take themselves out of the gene pool for the greater good of humanity. With some unfortunate accidents happening to good decent blokes/chickadees inbetween.

Oblivion
1st December 2011, 14:16
I love motorcycling, and no-one is gonna stop me. I might have to park it up for now, Needing a car for uni and all, might even take it down with me. I have had the "You'll kill yourself" shit alot. And to quote someone, "Frankly my dear, I just don't give a damn" is pretty much the standard answer.

When I finish uni and have enough money, Imma get a nice shiny blue SV650.

Eat that haters :Punk:

Scuba_Steve
1st December 2011, 14:28
I believe this comes about because we have been part of or know someone who has been in an accident, but unlike in a car where a small "bump" can mean someone pays a little money & insurance sorts the panel work, when a little "bump" happens on a bike it can mean serious injury. So car accidents are a come & go long forgotten sort of thing, but bike accidents (since there is physical harm amounting from most) tend to be remembered. Humans remember pain.

BoristheBiter
1st December 2011, 14:33
I had to google that & I've cursed myself for ever more now.:facepalm: Obvious really.

That's why i haven' googled "2 girls 1 cup" because you can't never unsee.

Mort
1st December 2011, 14:39
A guy I work with flies airplanes. Apparently every time he mentions it, people start talking about crashes. Don't worry about it....its just people making words..... your job is to ride safe.

The Singing Chef
1st December 2011, 14:44
That's why i haven' googled "2 girls 1 cup" because you can't never unsee.

2 Girls 1 cup, is a short film, detailing the bartending industry and the pro's and con's of each gender in relation to the job. Quite an informative film actually.

Maha
1st December 2011, 14:48
A guy I work with flies airplanes. Apparently every time he mentions it, people start talking about crashes. Don't worry about it....its just people making words..... your job is to ride safe.

..and yet more people are killed by Hippo's annually than in planes crashes.

Tigadee
1st December 2011, 14:52
I know right! Damn temptation tempting me to google shite. I totally blame the demotivators.

Imdying is the motivator to that action, nothing to do with the demotivators! LOL!

Luckily I didn't get far as I got the gist of it from the absrtact lines in Google search, so I was spared temporary insanity...

Fast Eddie
1st December 2011, 14:57
Stand behind a Horse and pull its tail. What a rush! Wear a chest protector and let someone know where you are so they can come find you later, unconcious

george formby
1st December 2011, 14:59
..and yet more people are killed by Hippo's annually than in planes crashes.


Yeah! And when was the last time you heard a concerned citizen say " Don't you be going riding any of them big Auckland Hippos, they is dangerous"?

slofox
1st December 2011, 15:00
..and yet more people are killed by Hippo's annually than in planes crashes.

Yeah - I always watch out real hard for hippos when I'm out on the bike...<_<

5150
1st December 2011, 15:10
Seriously,
I know where the OP is coming from, but dude Motorcycling is a form of freedom, people want a slice of it, and if they cant have it, they wanna destroy it for you,
In a tin top your stuck in your lane, you have a solid white line and a broken white line on either side of your car, with fuck all room either side, thats no better than been stuck on a train, forced to follow its rails,
On a bike your still in that lane, but you can do as you please within it, you can take better lines into corners, you can weave about on the straight roads, you can do all sorts thats freedom of the road,
It annoys me how dull headed some people can be, I have been told many a time that I am selfish towards my family for riding a bike, I have been told I wont live to see 25, ill die in a horrific bike accident,
Do you know what I tell people when they tell me ill die in a bike accident?
Good, if dying while doing something I love is how im going to go, then I glad its the thing I love 2nd most. (I have to say this as my Mrs is beside me.. the bike knows it comes first.. :innocent:)
Iv done alot of good stuff in my life that I can be personally proud of and personally passionate about, but nothing outdoes my passion and pride than my motorcycle and my use of it.


hows that for some Malcolm x shit

Amen.... What he said....:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap: :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::c lap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::cla p::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap: :clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::c lap::clap::clap:

Maha
1st December 2011, 15:10
Yeah! And when was the last time you heard a concerned citizen say " Don't you be going riding any of them big Auckland Hippos, they is dangerous"?

...and news just in..A plane has crashed into the Auckland Zoo... all have survived but the Hippos were enraged and broke free killing those close by.

It can happen....:shifty:

unstuck
1st December 2011, 15:30
Meh, just tell em that it is fuckwits in cars that are killing most of the bikers.:motu:

superman
1st December 2011, 15:38
2 Girls 1 cup, is a short film, detailing the bartending industry and the pro's and con's of each gender in relation to the job. Quite an informative film actually.

Here's a masterful essay on the film from a student. (real or fake who knows)

Essay (http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/2+girls+1+cup+essay+click+here+if+you+d+like+http+ www+funnyjunk+com+funny+pictures+2176879+Jimmy+McP erson_56190d_2176426.jpg)

Kickaha
1st December 2011, 15:43
Ask them how many people they know have died or fucked themselves up in cars and then ask when they will be stopping driving


Meh, just tell em that it is fuckwits in cars that are killing most of the bikers.:motu:

Make sure they arent going to do any checking up though because if you use that line you'd be wrong

tigertim20
1st December 2011, 16:38
Hi
I am strating this thread because I want to share my frustration with like-minded people. Since I have bought my bike, or even before that, every second person i meet who knows I am into motorcycles talks about accidents. It is always some other person they know of who had been in an accident. They often show interest in biking and most say they want to buy a m'cycle for themselves, but then inadvertently shift the topic to accidents. I hate such clairvoyants who claim to predict my destiny indirectly. And I am not talking about family and friends whose genuine concerns you can see. I say if you don't have anything nice to say then just shut your mouth. A simple `Be Safe' would suffice. I don't wanna talk about accidents and how people die. I have been driving cars for 15 years and I understand the risks. I have made an informed decision.

Sorry if I wasted anyone's time, but I need to get this out of my mind.

Cheers
Nitin

Tell these people to FUCK OFF.
DO they have a right to oversee, and question your right to make your own decisions and choices, as long as you arent doing anything blatantly illegal?
are they gonna tell you not to bang your missus up the arse and cum on her face because THEY think its 'degrading'?
are they gonna tell you not to wear white after labour day because it breaches THEIR fashion code?
are they gonna tell you who to vote for in the election because THEY think they know whats best for YOU?

These cunts have no place in taking some self-perceived moral highground over YOUR life decisions.
Tell them to go get fucked, its what I do.

If they respect YOU as a person, theyll respect your decisions, if they dont, well, you dont need cunts like that around you eh.

grantnz
1st December 2011, 16:54
I'll get shit for this , because I bet there is the odd Doctor or Nurse on here.

If you do happen to crash and end up in hospital, some people there that are helping you will tell you, " if you crash again and break that arm/ shoulder/ leg/ whatever, there will be no options available other than to amputate it."

Got a mate at the mo who has just been told that, but as I pointed out, it took 54 years to break it for the first time, so the odds are in his favour because he will be long gone before he breaks it again.

Bit like the the 100 year flood. It will never happen again...

Katman
1st December 2011, 17:06
Meh, just tell em that it is fuckwits in cars that are killing most of the bikers.:motu:

Fantasy Island thataway. =>

ellipsis
1st December 2011, 17:16
The fact that we are part of the statistics that get rolled out every time the govt departments that thrive on such things, need a boost to their profiles, doesn't help the perception that joe, non riding public, have of us. If the statistics for the weekend's carnage on the sports fields, mountains, pistes, kitchens, bbq's was rolled out in the Monday morning newspaper and hit the 6.0'clock news, we wouldn't even get a look in, unless there was lots of blood.

Hey look you pedants, no unnecessary ellipses or any blatant disregard for our beloved tongue,much...until next time.

slofox
1st December 2011, 17:20
I was gassing up the bike at the servo this morning when some dude pulled up in his car. He got out, looked at the bike and came on over.

He: "Hey, nice bike!"

Me: "Yeah, thanks, I like it"

He: "What is it - a GSR?"

Me: "Nah, GSX-R. It's a 600."

He: "600? It looks bigger than that."

Me: "Nah, just 600..."

He: "I used to have a .... " and so he went on, all wistful and full of reminiscences.

Me: (eventually) "You oughta get another one then" (He seemed to be yearning for one).

He: (and here's the crunch) "Ahh, nah, my biking days are over - the Mrs. has said NO MORE BIKES..."

Sounds to me like his Mrs is one of those the OP was speaking of...I was tempted to tell him to get a divorce but I bit that bit back...just said "Well, there's only me and the cat so I can do WTF I like..."

He did look a little green though...

scumdog
1st December 2011, 18:17
Meh, just tell em that it is fuckwits in cars that are killing most of the bikers.:motu:

Uh,,no....

If he checks the facts he will see you've been telling porkies.

Mostly bikers kill themselves from what I've seen.

unstuck
1st December 2011, 18:28
Now I never said it was the truth or factual, but if someone who knows nothing about a subject starts telling me what I am doing is dangerous, they will get fed bullshit and a BIG :motu:

MIXONE
1st December 2011, 18:49
I had a lecture from a neighbour about taking my boys on the bike with me and how much of an irresponsible parent I was.I bit back the usual fuck off response for the sake of neighbourly harmony but did point out that he takes his kids out fishing on a boat.
Fuckem, crossing the road is dangerous so just do what you gotta/wanna do.

Berries
1st December 2011, 18:58
Just remember, life is terminal.

My brother's best mate died of kidney cancer two weeks ago, finally diagnosed when it was far too late. 38 years old.

You've got no idea how long you are going to be here, so do what you enjoy. Now. And don't let those who disagree wind you up.

superman
1st December 2011, 19:05
I had a lecture from a neighbour about taking my boys on the bike with me and how much of an irresponsible parent I was.I bit back the usual fuck off response for the sake of neighbourly harmony but did point out that he takes his kids out fishing on a boat.
Fuckem, crossing the road is dangerous so just do what you gotta/wanna do.

:brick:

That would drive me nuts. I'm glad I still fall in the "young and stupid" category, because at least then people don't say much about it.

Funnily enough I yelled at a neighbour the other day for hooning up and down the road on a dirt bike, doing wheelies, no helmet. Though I didn't tell him to fuck off for his disregard for personal safety, it was more the constant doppler effect going past my house that pissed me off.

Old Steve
1st December 2011, 19:14
It is always some other person they know of who had been in an accident.

Just reply that the deceased or injured must have been a bloody useless rider anyway, and that there's probably a Darwinian effect at work - raising the IQ and abilities of the survivors.

That's a subtle insult too, as the deceased or injured is usually a relative.

tigertim20
1st December 2011, 20:22
I was gassing up ......



H

Me: (eventually) "You oughta get another one then" (He seemed to be yearning for one).

He: (and here's the crunch) "Ahh, nah, my biking days are over - the Mrs. has said NO MORE BIKES..."

.
what he really needs is a new fuckin missus

Uh,,no....

If he checks the facts he will see you've been telling porkies.

Mostly bikers kill themselves from what I've seen.

Yeah, cos their wives say 'either the bike goes, or you do', and they make the right decision .. .

slofox
2nd December 2011, 04:47
what he really needs is a new fuckin missus

Absolutely - see below...


I was tempted to tell him to get a divorce but I bit that bit back...just said "Well, there's only me and the cat so I can do WTF I like..."

caspernz
2nd December 2011, 06:36
In the end, why listen to anyone but your own gut? If you want a bike, get one. The world is full of unsolicited opinions, and most of them are wrong anyway.

For me it was quite simple, had a few years without a bike and when I informed my better half I was about to place an order she said something along the lines of: "Like hell you are!" Being prepared for such an event I calmly responded: "It's like this dear, I'm getting a bike, whether the payment comes out of the joint account or the divorce settlement I'll leave up to you." To be fair, I was prepared for the latter, but she chose the former.

As for bikers being killed by cars....mmmm....I'm leaning more toward Scummy's take, in that I've seen more bikers killed by their own enthusiasm as opposed to fellow road users. The good part is that you can learn how to ride properly, at a sane pace and thus reduce the risk immensely. Oh well, that's been my approach anyhow....

Berries
2nd December 2011, 06:41
what he really needs is a new fuckin missus. Yeah, cos their wives say 'either the bike goes, or you do', and they make the right decision .. .
Just been asked by the wife when I am giving up bikes due to last nights fatal in town. She doesn't understand.

Donor
2nd December 2011, 06:53
Sick of people telling you what death traps motor bikes are?

Simple solution - go for a ride... as long and as often and as safely as you can.

This will do two things, it will make you a better rider as you practise your skills and improve your abilities, and shut the doom sayers up as you demonstrate yourself not falling off and embedding yourself into an early grave.

Plus, when you ride you can't hear them waffling on anyway.

Oh, and don't blame car drivers, 99% of accidents aren't caused by them. Getting ya leg over two wheels of insta-fun is the choice of the rider, nobody ever rode as a result of a gun to their head. What you get up to on the road is your business alone.

oneofsix
2nd December 2011, 07:07
They are trying to be helpful :corn:
Remember when the Mrs first got pregas all the other woman gather around and start the horror stories of what goes wrong instead of encouraging stories. Every one knows someone where it went wrong, sometime I reckon the worst thing that can happen is the kid survives :shutup:. I think its part of human nature to enjoy others cock-ups and others pain. It is why some seem to think people only got to motor racing to see the crashes.
Funny how horse riding is meant to be one of the most high risk activities but when someone says they ride horses it all a case of 'how nice', where are the horror stories? is this because it is an animal? or because it is now largely a chick thing? Horses bet Hippos in NZ for accidents.

GrayWolf
2nd December 2011, 10:11
[QUOTE=Donor;1130206776]Sick of people telling you what death traps motor bikes are?

Simple solution - go for a ride... as long and as often and as safely as you can.

This will do two things, it will make you a better rider as you practise your skills and improve your abilities, and shut the doom sayers up as you demonstrate yourself not falling off and embedding yourself into an early grave. [QUOTE]

yeh till you DO have a mishap, then they say... Ah well he rides/rode a motorcycle was bound to happen one day, we ALL saw it coming.... tried to warn him,,,, irresponsible, he's dead/injured with kids/wife/dog/mortgage/mistress/au pair........ left behind.
Been hearing it for years...... :brick:

Katman
2nd December 2011, 10:14
yeh till you DO have a mishap,

You make it sound like it's written in the stars.

tigertim20
2nd December 2011, 10:49
Just been asked by the wife when I am giving up bikes due to last nights fatal in town. She doesn't understand.
so many people dont. Im lucky enough that the missus doesnt bat an eyelid at all, she loves bikes herself, and would never ask me to get rid of them. We had a discussion the other day about when the kids can get their first bike, I suggested it should be a gift for getting out of diapers . . .

Sick of people telling you what death traps motor bikes are?

Simple solution - go for a ride... as long and as often and as safely as you can.

This will do two things, it will make you a better rider as you practise your skills and improve your abilities, and shut the doom sayers up as you demonstrate yourself not falling off and embedding yourself into an early grave.

Plus, when you ride you can't hear them waffling on anyway.

.

well said mate

scumdog
2nd December 2011, 12:37
You've got no idea how long you are going to be here, so do what you enjoy. Now. And don't let those who disagree wind you up.

My philosphy to a 'T'

I've seen enough dead dudes lying on the road/in a paddock/on the floor that probably had all manner of plans for stuff they planned to do 'later on' or had grandios retirement plans etc

And I bet bugger all of them woke up that morning and realised their time would run out that day...

Tigadee
2nd December 2011, 22:01
OK, who gave the 'demotivators club' my Mrs' phone number?

Now she says she's worried about me, just because of that little skid on some leaves two Saturdays ago... *sigh*

oldrider
2nd December 2011, 23:29
Hi
I am strating this thread because I want to share my frustration with like-minded people. Since I have bought my bike, or even before that, every second person i meet who knows I am into motorcycles talks about accidents. It is always some other person they know of who had been in an accident. They often show interest in biking and most say they want to buy a m'cycle for themselves, but then inadvertently shift the topic to accidents. I hate such clairvoyants who claim to predict my destiny indirectly. And I am not talking about family and friends whose genuine concerns you can see. I say if you don't have anything nice to say then just shut your mouth. A simple `Be Safe' would suffice. I don't wanna talk about accidents and how people die. I have been driving cars for 15 years and I understand the risks. I have made an informed decision.

Sorry if I wasted anyone's time, but I need to get this out of my mind.

Cheers
N

You made the right decision for you, "they" were not part of the equation, neither was having an accident ... wouldn't be called an accident if it was planned!

Enjoy your bike, I think they are actually safer than a car but if you don't respect it, it might not show any respect to you! :ride: :heart:

psykonosis
6th December 2011, 12:45
People always need to have their say on the matter, usually the fact that these accidents occur result in the individual not wanting to ride which is a little sad. You have to love getting out there and enjoy riding! Their loss, our gain. Be heard before you are seen on the road :niceone: get some louder pipes to make your presence on the road known