Yay...

[Coyote]

Failed my restricted, Eighty eight bucks twenty down the drain :oi-grr:

[DingDong]

Im on a learners... so tell us what you done wrong, it may help me in passing mine :whistle:

[bugjuice]

that sucks dude.. what did you fail on? Whatdya learn from it?

btw, you are worthy of my 3,000nth post ;)

[sAsLEX]

I dont think I could of failed mine, was once round the block up here!

[k14]

I dont think I could of failed mine, was once round the block up here!

Yeah same here, the only easier thing i can think of was sitting my full. About the only thing that you have to make sure of is not to speed.

[sAsLEX]

About the only thing that you have to make sure of is not to speed.

No you have to speed, slow down due to wet and greasy roads and fail!

[Coyote]

btw, you are worthy of my 3,000nth post ;)
Booyah, I feel so special now :p

Here's the 'Memo to Applicant'
-Headcheck
-U Turn - Street wide enough to do full turn
-Roundabout signals
-Rail Crossing Warning lights
-Search At Intersections

So basically, I didn't turn my head round enough times, instead of going into full steering lock I went for the go into driveway then back out approach as I thought it was far more sensible than a illegal u turn, the new indicating law is still flawed and you must be have a degree in quantum physics to understand them, look out for the lights instead of waiting for the other lane to go ahead over the tracks after the gate had risen and look back and forth several million times for a good hour on each intersection until your very sure there are no cars destined on a collision course with you

Bugger

[Coyote]

I shouldn't of rode home after. I was far to pissed and reckless. Blue mountains Hill Road is not a very good road to race down in the wet with a fogged up visor

[mikey]

ohhh mateeeee 80 skins down the drain, gotta hate the fuckers.

wana go for blat up takas tomorrrow..

i still ride like i stole it an got no licence but police leave me alone, noty much to worry about but the coin.

[Motu]

Arcade Champion in 15 games,but not the one that matters - get off the computer and into real life!

I failed my heavy trailer licence first time - but I wasn't taking no for an answer and he let he have it if I promised to practise....just gotta be perswasive with these bloody cops!

I was unbeatable in Bloody Pingu,so they removed my score completly to give others a chance.

[Waylander]

Booyah, I feel so special now :p

Here's the 'Memo to Applicant'
-Headcheck
-U Turn - Street wide enough to do full turn
-Roundabout signals
-Rail Crossing Warning lights
-Search At Intersections

So basically, I didn't turn my head round enough times, instead of going into full steering lock I went for the go into driveway then back out approach as I thought it was far more sensible than a illegal u turn, the new indicating law is still flawed and you must be have a degree in quantum physics to understand them, look out for the lights instead of waiting for the other lane to go ahead over the tracks after the gate had risen and look back and forth several million times for a good hour on each intersection until your very sure there are no cars destined on a collision course with you

Bugger
Damn, you must have gotten a shite instructor. Other than the roundabout signalling I don't see how any of that should have faild you.

[placidfemme]

Bummer about not getting it... Good luck for next time

[GROOMER]

Failed my restricted, Eighty eight bucks twenty down the drain :oi-grr:

Who did you use to sit it?

[Storm]

Bad luck mate, heres hoping you can book in for another go quick smart

[Jonty]

Hard luck mate, I have to agree that you do need a degree to work out the roundabout laws. In my opinion they are flawed in thier operation anyway. May have been worth a go at CBTA (you have to be bloody aweful to fail that). Good luck for the next try :Punk:

[John]

Gutted mate, just read up the road code and try gain I think the resit is about 30$

[dveus]

The testing officer wasn't being hard on him. Everyday on here someone is complaining about other road users not knowing/applying the road rules, as soon as it is one of our own, people think its the testing officers fault.

The best bit of advice I was given from a driving instructer/family friend was to remember that your playing their game, no matter how stupid or unnecessary it may seem, you still have to play by their rules.

Anyhow good luck with the resit.

[Devil]

the new indicating law is still flawed and you must be have a degree in quantum physics to understand them
Ack! Stay off my roads mate!

1) They're not new. They've always been like that.
2) How hard is it? I cant believe the shit I see. There must be some serious comprehension problems out there.

Here's some notes for the roundabouts.
Whenever you EXIT a roundabout, no matter which way you are going, you'll ALWAYS be signalling left.
If you're turning left at the round about, signal left on the approach. If you're going straight ahead, dont signal the approach at all.
If you're turning right, indicate right on the approach.
Thats it.

Even clearer than my crap explanation:
http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/roadcode/giving-way/roundabouts3.html

[mikey]

Ack! Stay off my roads mate!

1) They're not new. They've always been like that.
2) How hard is it? I cant believe the shit I see. There must be some serious comprehension problems out there.

Here's some notes for the roundabouts.
Whenever you EXIT a roundabout, no matter which way you are going, you'll ALWAYS be signalling left.
If you're turning left at the round about, signal left on the approach. If you're going straight ahead, dont signal the approach at all.
If you're turning right, indicate right on the approach.
Thats it.

Even clearer than my crap explanation:
http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/roadcode/giving-way/roundabouts3.html

your wrong.

[gamgee]

your wrong.
care to explain?

[ManDownUnder]

...
btw, you are worthy of my 3,000nth post ;)

fark - we just can't shut you up can we???:rofl:

MDU

[GROOMER]

your wrong.

Nah man, thats the way it is.

[mikey]

Ack! Stay off my roads mate!

1) They're not new.

]


yes they are. legislation was changed, indicate into round about and indicate on way out even if going straight ahead.

[Devil]

yes they are. legislation was changed, indicate into round about and indicate on way out even if going straight ahead.
What changed was now you can get demerits for it. The rules stayed the same.
EDIT: Sorry, no demerits. Just an offence.


your wrong.
Irony.

[justsomeguy]

mate - mate mate ----


My sympathies...... same shit just happened to me....
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=14512

[mikey]

What changed was now you can get demerits for it. The rules stayed the same.
EDIT: Sorry, no demerits. Just an offence.


Irony.


im not wrong. im peter pan.

[justsomeguy]

yes they are. legislation was changed, indicate into round about and indicate on way out even if going straight ahead.

That was pretty much always the rule - just that nobody followed it......

The guy who taught me to drive - Brian Parker - one of the best from Passrite - taught me that 5 years ago...... and isn't it the natural thing to do?? Give the waiting traffic an indication of where you want to go??

[Waylander]

Now this is gonna become another one of those pointless threads where everyone argues about the new/or not Roundabout laws...

[gamgee]

That was pretty much always the rule - just that nobody followed it......

The guy who taught me to drive - Brian Parker - one of the best from Passrite - taught me that 5 years ago...... and isn't it the natural thing to do?? Give the waiting traffic an indication of where you want to go??

and the way devil said to indicate does do this, if your going left you'll be indicating left, going straight you won't be indicating, if your going right you indicate right

[gamgee]

hey, that was my 200th post on here, man that took ages

[Devil]

Ignoring when it came in, its not a hard rule to grasp. Especially with the LTSA's diagrams.

[Coyote]

Just like to say don't get too pissed with the instructor, he was pretty nice about it all, and he's just like every other cop, just doing his job. And also about the indicating, what I said was obviously blown out of proportion but it was still very hard to quickly go left, right, left, right, left, right, stop indicators, left, right, etc. when having to navigate this part of town that has 3 roundabouts, 2 of them within 10 or so meters. The train tracks were a mistake I happened to make cause I was so paranoid about making mistakes I wasn't thinking clearly therefore making me make mistakes and getting me more paranoid about making more mistakes

It was annoying on one roundabout however because I didn't indicate right going into it because I was going straight through, but apparently the road I was going onto was just that little bit to the right so I did have to indicate after all. This was bullshit and the reason for failing that portion of the test

[Coyote]

Ack! Stay off my roads mate!

Yeah, I should stick to racing and dirt riding

[Motoracer]

That sux dude! Don't know how but I've some how managed to scrape through the system and got me self a nice green licence for classes 1 and 6! I must have paid them some $$ to let me pass... oooops said too much already!

You'll get it next time man, chin up.

[Ixion]

Just like to say don't get too pissed with the instructor, he was pretty nice about it all, and he's just like every other cop, just doing his job. ..

Just a note, they're not cops. Not even non-sworn officers. They're contracted bureaucrats.

Some of them (probably the good ones) may be ex-cops. But it's not a requirement. Most of them ahve been driving instructors, but apart from the ex-cops, and a very few enthusiasts, none will have ever ridden a bike.

[Devil]

...were a mistake I happened to make cause I was so paranoid about making mistakes I wasn't thinking clearly therefore making me make mistakes and getting me more paranoid about making more mistakes

It was annoying on one roundabout however because I didn't indicate right going into it because I was going straight through, but apparently the road I was going onto was just that little bit to the right so I did have to indicate after all. This was bullshit and the reason for failing that portion of the test
Yeh, gets like that. I was plenty nervous when I did my restricted. To the point where I didn't give way at a roundabout (I never stuff that up!) but the tester was stuck coming out of a side street and didnt see it (phew).

That roundabout thing, with the road being slightly to the right...tough call. Unlucky.
EDIT: Actually, thats pretty fucking gay. The whole point of indicating right is (on 4 point roundabout for eg.) letting the person opposite you know that you're going to be coming round. If its still that kind of roundabout but the road isnt aligned you shouldn't be indicating right anyway! Fuckers.

[mikey]

and the way devil said to indicate does do this, if your going left you'll be indicating left, going straight you won't be indicating, if your going right you indicate right


NO I am RIGHT!

if you are going straight through a round about you have to idicate right then indicate left.

hoooooooo kKKKKKKKKK

-PETER PAN

[gamgee]

NO I am RIGHT!

if you are going straight through a round about you have to idicate right then indicate left.

hoooooooo kKKKKKKKKK

-PETER PAN
not according to the road code, or john campbell

[Coyote]

I also felt cheated with the "not completeing a full U-turn". I went into a driveway and then backed out, it's a 3 point turn sure, but it still works in the same way and is a lot safer. He could of at least asked me to do a proper U-turn instead of arse raping me of my money by failing me on that part.

And aren't U-Turns illegal anyway?! [EDIT] No there're not :pinch:

I did what I believed was the safest option, but I was still failed for it. Aren't we supposed to learn to ride safely, not illegally?

[Devil]

I also felt cheated with the "not completeing a full U-turn". I went into a driveway and then backed out, it's a 3 point turn sure, but it still works in the same way and is a lot safer. He could of at least asked me to do a proper U-turn instead of arse raping me of my money by failing me on that part.

And aren't U-Turns illegal anyway?!

I did what I believed was the safest option, but I was still failed for it. Aren't we supposed to learn to ride safely, not illegally?
Nah, U-Turns are legal, unless there is a sign specifically saying No U-Turns.

[Coyote]

Nah, U-Turns are legal, unless there is a sign specifically saying No U-Turns.
Despite that, I still feel like I have been cheated. I even explained to him I did that as I believed it was safer and I got "That bike should be able to turn in that road, I could easily do it". Yeah right, with your belly you would be able to fit in it's japanese ergonomic layout, and even my Basic Handling Skills instructor rode my bike and found it very hard to keep stable with the steering in full lock.

I didn't hate my instructor before, I do now

[Coyote]

Arcade Champion in 15 games,but not the one that matters - get off the computer and into real life!
Is the arcade any worse than being in the forums instead? At least I'm not spouting off as much crap as I used to :p

Real life is depressing anyway, I perfur to stay away from it

[GROOMER]

NO I am RIGHT!

if you are going straight through a round about you have to idicate right then indicate left.

hoooooooo kKKKKKKKKK

-PETER PAN

Your shovel must be getting blunt from this big hole you're digging :yes:

[unhingedlizard]

I failed my restriced in the UK first time for one thing. I hesitated at a dodgy intersection for a split second too long and failed for undue hesitation.

I also have no problems with the roundabout rules as thats the way I was taught to drive/ride and so do.

On another note. I did a NZ driving test when I came over here. was told to do a u turn, stopped at side of road after completing said uturn to check road was still clear and got told to "just go dont stop". I also did 60 in a 50 kph zone twice and didnt look at a rail crossing. I passed.

[Artifice]

ah mate better lusck next time, the uturn is a major part to show you can control your bike. if you have to just stand on the footpegs and lean her over some more. you can turn faster than the full lock would otherwise allow. its just one of those tasks you have to check the road is clear both ways indicate check and use the whole road for. as to the roundabouts... when i did my liscence i chatted to the guy about it and he said no need pointlessly confusing oncoming traffic by indicating right then left(long time ago now but). you just have to grimace and take it i guess. bastard pulled me up on the head check of sideroads also but well i checke em all, its not my fault he cant see my eyes, i was turning my head quite a lot but some helmets dont show as turned very well from the rear ay, you might want to tape a bit of insuation tape up the centre back so it shows up more ay.

[raster]

Take note of everything that was noted, practice them, get them right. Can you do a figure 8 at walking speed without putting feet down, that is one of the requirements.
Do the resit, only $40, ASAP while these things are fresh in your mind.

My problems were shoulder checks and didn't check on railway lines.

[Jantar]

Many years ago I ahd been teaching a young guy to ride, and I accompanied him when he went for his licence. Initially the cop failed him for not being able to ride a figure 8 at walking speed in the MOT driveway. However when I pointed out to the cop that the driveway was too narrow to even push the bike in a figure 8, he allowed my young friend to try again in the MOT carpark. This time successfully. :yes:

The cop did comment that this was the first time he had ever tested a motrocyclist for a licence where the rider was on a Suzuki GT750, and the 50 cc and 125 cc bikes that most turned up on could do a figure 8 easily. (Remember the days before that strange 250 cc limit) :ride:

[riffer]

(Remember the days before that strange 250 cc limit) :ride:

When did that come in? I tried to sit my restricted on my CB350 and they wouldn't have a bar of it. Had to go and borrow my dad's A50 to sit it on...

That was in 1984...

Chin up Alarumba. At least you know where you have to work on.

Sod's law will, of course dictate that the very things you practice will not even be checked next time.

I spent sooooo much time practicing for my restricted and in the end I had to ride from Pearce House (Upper Cuba Street, down Webb Street, across Taranaki Street up Buckle St (before it was one-way) round the Basin Reserve, through Mt Vic tunnel, into Hataitai, U-turn in Hataitai Rd (a road that goes up a hill just to make it a bit tricky) and then back again, round the basin and back to Cuba Street.

When I got back the cop (traffic cops did the licences back then) told me how pleased he was at my riding the little bike and told me if I was going to take my dad's GS550E out any more I'd better be damn careful.

Turns out the bugger had seen me on my dad's bike the day before and recognised me because of my Jet Leathers and yellow Bell helmet.

Damn. No-one was supposed to see me on that bike... :whistle:

... especially not the old man.

Good luck for next time.

[Coyote]

After a few hours practice around some tight roundabouts, I'm pretty confident I could do a U-Turn in a shopping isle now

Thanks for all your support. It may have been a good thing that I did fail this, otherwise I may have entered that F3 race :no:

[Coyote]

By the way, the bike fell over when I parked it in Wellington (my fault, kickstand gave way as bike was facing downhill) and not only did I scratch my nicely restored faing that cost me 160 bucks, I also broke the clutch lever. The lever is in half and I can still use it using 2 fingers. Could this be used as an excuse to fail me again when I re-do the test or should I be ok and I'm being overly paranoid yet again?

[justsomeguy]

By the way, the bike fell over when I parked it in Wellington (my fault, kickstand gave way as bike was facing downhill) and not only did I scratch my nicely restored faing that cost me 160 bucks, I also broke the clutch lever. The lever is in half and I can still use it using 2 fingers. Could this be used as an excuse to fail me again when I re-do the test or should I be ok and I'm being overly paranoid yet again?

Well...... if your bike is rideable and you are comfortable doing so......just try and stand in such a way that you kinda obscure the right hand side (don't make it obvious) the tester will most probably not even notice as they only look at the lights...... Unless to your bad luck you get a bike nut.....

Good luck with your test, I wasn't asked to do a U turn or fig 8 ... just ride around the suburbs for bout 20 mins..... there was a bit of slow riding in the crowded mall parking lot trying to get to the public roads at about maybe 2-5kmph but that was that......

[raster]

Just an update, I was talking to someone tonight who mentioned Louise from penrose saying that she has been disaplined some time ago for having a 30% pass rate instead of 70% for all other centres and doesnt have very good people skills.

Just thort I would share that with you, I think I will go to Mt wellington for my full on the 4th.

[justsomeguy]

Just an update, I was talking to someone tonight who mentioned Louise from penrose saying that she has been disaplined some time ago for having a 30% pass rate instead of 70% for all other centres and doesnt have very good people skills.

Just thort I would share that with you, I think I will go to Mt wellington for my full on the 4th.

Thanks for that - she does come across as a bit of a bitch ...

I'm gonna let her boss know about it too...... will make that visit tomorrow......

[raster]

Thanks for that - she does come across as a bit of a bitch ...

I'm gonna let her boss know about it too...... will make that visit tomorrow......

Just put it in such a way that it does not show anger. :mad:

[unhingedlizard]

so beating down his door with a pickaxe and using words such as, Phuk, hoe, bitch, and in my day wont achieve the desired result?

[raster]

so beating down his door with a pickaxe and using words such as, Phuk, hoe, bitch, and in my day wont achieve the desired result?

They'd probly call it road rage and try and book you for it.