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re_animate
12th December 2011, 20:12
$470per year for a 250cc bike (or something similar)

Is there a reason?

cs363
12th December 2011, 20:16
You either haven't been around much, or this is a troll....

Anyhoo, go here: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/content.php/2-acc_levy_campaign

You should find the answers you seek within....

tigertim20
12th December 2011, 20:18
$470per year for a 250cc bike (or something similar)

Is there a reason?
because all bikers are dangerous cunts with a death wish.


You either haven't been around much, or this is a troll....

Anyhoo, go here: http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/content.php/2-acc_levy_campaign

You should find the answers you seek within....

Given their join date is late November this year its a good bet its genuine ignorance

cs363
12th December 2011, 20:19
because all bikers are dangerous cunts with a death wish.

I resent that statement! I'm not dangerous..... :D

thecharmed01
12th December 2011, 20:42
Wow... actually I'd not realised they had gone up quite that much!
Holy cow.
I only ride bikes offroad, so have never seen the price of riding a bike on the road.
That's almost as much as the Surf costs to register and that thing's a monster. Crikey.

cs363
12th December 2011, 20:52
Wow... actually I'd not realised they had gone up quite that much!
Holy cow.
I only ride bikes offroad, so have never seen the price of riding a bike on the road.
That's almost as much as the Surf costs to register and that thing's a monster. Crikey.

Try a 601+cc bike..... $528.63! (Which is I think about the same as a 3.0L diesel Surf, give or take a few cents) :eek:

thecharmed01
12th December 2011, 20:55
Try a 601+cc bike..... $591.42! (Which is I think about the same as a 3.0L diesel Surf, give or take a few cents) :eek:

Ugh so that's gone up too hahaha
Last year when we put a year on it, it was around $500 but def not closer to $600.
Might be another nail in it's coffin methinks. Boy is gonna spit when he realises that!

Tigadee
12th December 2011, 21:40
All those bogus excuses for increases... Ouch!

Does this mean that all Christchurch residents should be slapped with an ACC levy because they live in a high risk area and highly likely to require treatment?:rolleyes:

re_animate
12th December 2011, 21:50
I did a search for a thread on it but couldn't find one,
haha my bad, new to the forums and only just got my first bike today.

I'm noob as :cool:

SMOKEU
12th December 2011, 22:02
$470per year for a 250cc bike (or something similar)



It only has to be done once so it doesn't really matter unless you've got a deregistered bike you're trying to get back on the roads.

Vinz0r
12th December 2011, 22:31
It only has to be done once so it doesn't really matter unless you've got a deregistered bike you're trying to get back on the roads.

I assume he means recurrent vehicle licensing, not actual vehicle registration. The use of the word 'registration' to refer to vehicle licensing is a very common mistake and has become the term that you see used most of the time, even though technically it is incorrect.

oldrider
12th December 2011, 22:31
I resent that statement! I'm not dangerous..... :D

Talk it over with that fuckwit Nick Smith .... he says you are and he wants to save you from yourself and make you pay for it! :weird:

BoristheBiter
13th December 2011, 06:32
Talk it over with that fuckwit Nick Smith .... he says you are and he wants to save you from yourself and make you pay for it! :weird:

It's no use crying over Nick and his myth as he is no longer ACC minister.

oneofsix
13th December 2011, 06:38
It's no use crying over Nick and his myth as he is no longer ACC minister.

It was never any use focusing on the minister, they are the appointed messenger, not the instigator. This is why ACC now has crusher Colins, harder personality, but she is still just the messenger for caucus/party policy. Sure we have to focus on the minister as the point of contact to take our message back but they didn't make the decision by themselves.

BoristheBiter
13th December 2011, 06:39
It was never any use focusing on the minister, they are the appointed messenger, not the instigator. This is why ACC now has crusher Colins, harder personality, but she is still just the messenger for caucus/party policy. Sure we have to focus on the minister as the point of contact to take our message back but they didn't make the decision by themselves.

Yes I know, i just can't sound sarcastic in posts.

oneofsix
13th December 2011, 06:42
Yes I know, i just can't sound sarcastic in posts.

My bad, I should have looked at who was posting :laugh:

Pseudonym
13th December 2011, 08:16
Just paid mine, only 6 months though as I’m not made of money!
Fucking GST on our tax doesn’t help…
Crusher Collins? Stick her in the boot of the next car.
And put Smith in with her.

I have zero sympathy for them; “they are only a mouth piece” line is bullshit too.
They are supposed to be in power to represent the people who put them there, the people who pay for their health cover, new cars and expense accounts.
You know, us.
And yet they totally fucking ignore us unless it’s election time.
Only then to feed us lies and double edged deals where we get reamed with the line “it wasn’t feasible” or “due to budget constraints”
Notice how the budget can stretch to cover the salary increases?
And ACC is now in the black… So where’s the refund?

Thieving scum.

skippa1
13th December 2011, 08:21
Crusher Collins? Stick her in the boot of the next car.
And put Smith in with her.

WHAT:blink:they might breed:sick:

yungatart
13th December 2011, 08:26
WHAT:blink:they might breed:sick:

You are just :sick:

oldrider
13th December 2011, 08:34
Yes I know, i just can't sound sarcastic in posts.

Don't put yourself down like that, you get it spot on ... every post! :nya:

re_animate
13th December 2011, 09:21
ok, my bike is already registered, it's a 250cc.
My rego expires in 3 months, how much would it be to get a new rego?

imdying
13th December 2011, 09:36
You might think that the minister is only a mouth piece, but I guarantee people will sit up and notice if you hold that mouth piece under water for 5 minutes.

re_animate, the price is the way it is because a New Zealand bikers idea of a protesting is a gay little ride to parliament... the futility of which was so fucking obvious that most didn't waste their time. "Occupy Northern Motorway" would have been far more effective (see the French)... let's face it, the pigs only have 8500 sworn officers, and they ain't gonna let the rest of the country police itself for the duration of such a protest.

nodrog
13th December 2011, 09:49
ok, my bike is already registered, it's a 250cc.
My rego expires in 3 months, how much would it be to get a new rego?

Its cheaper to buy a new bike that is already registered, and keep your old one for spare parts.

5150
13th December 2011, 10:37
Wow... actually I'd not realised they had gone up quite that much!
Holy cow.
I only ride bikes offroad, so have never seen the price of riding a bike on the road.
That's almost as much as the Surf costs to register and that thing's a monster. Crikey.

Thats because we "road wariors" subsidise your "off road" lot when it comes to ACC levies...:psst:

BoristheBiter
13th December 2011, 10:40
Thats because we "road wariors" subsidise your "off road" lot when it comes to ACC levies...:psst:

I subsidise myself thanks.

thecharmed01
13th December 2011, 10:57
Thats because we "road wariors" subsidise your "off road" lot when it comes to ACC levies...:psst:

:violin:

I think I pay enough in ACC and private cover not to stress too much about that.
6 cars, all legal and only one or two I ever drive. Plenty of levies paid and I've never ever used them.
Not that I've had an accident in the last 15 years - and never ever one to cause injury to anyone thank god!
*touch wood*
Haven't needed to use ACC on the mx bike either - I think I don't go fast enough to fall off that bad!
If I can move it, I don't need to see a doc.
And if I need a surgeon, private cover will pay cause I've seen what Wellington Hospital are like. I like Southern Cross and Wakefield.

Thinking about it, I've not used ACC much at all of late. Last one I *should* have used ACC for but never bothered to, was a few years ago when I dislocated my shoulder while cleaning my babies bedroom. And that in itself was worthy of one of those home ACC adverts. Shame there was no video :facepalm:

5150
13th December 2011, 12:13
:violin:

I think I pay enough in ACC and private cover not to stress too much about that.
6 cars, all legal and only one or two I ever drive. Plenty of levies paid and I've never ever used them.
Not that I've had an accident in the last 15 years - and never ever one to cause injury to anyone thank god!
*touch wood*
Haven't needed to use ACC on the mx bike either - I think I don't go fast enough to fall off that bad!
If I can move it, I don't need to see a doc.
And if I need a surgeon, private cover will pay cause I've seen what Wellington Hospital are like. I like Southern Cross and Wakefield.

Thinking about it, I've not used ACC much at all of late. Last one I *should* have used ACC for but never bothered to, was a few years ago when I dislocated my shoulder while cleaning my babies bedroom. And that in itself was worthy of one of those home ACC adverts. Shame there was no video :facepalm:

It was more pointed in general direction and not at you specifically. Me too have a private cover, unfortunately ACC does not recognise it and will not discount my reg because of it.

SMOKEU
13th December 2011, 12:16
ok, my bike is already registered, it's a 250cc.
My rego expires in 3 months, how much would it be to get a new rego?

Relicense it before the rego lapses...

nzmikey
13th December 2011, 13:19
ok, my bike is already registered, it's a 250cc.
My rego expires in 3 months, how much would it be to get a new rego?


Period________________________3mths____6mths____12 mths
Petrol driven - – 0- 60cc incl____$106.49____$205.32____$403.03
Petrol driven - 61-600cc incl____$109.35____$211.07____$414.53
Petrol driven - 601cc and over___$137.89___$268.12____$528.63


So the Answer you are looking for is $109.35inc gst :scooter:

5150
13th December 2011, 13:38
Period________________________3mths____6mths____12 mths
Petrol driven - – 0- 60cc incl____$106.49____$205.32____$403.03
Petrol driven - 61-600cc incl____$109.35____$211.07____$414.53
Petrol driven - 601cc and over___$137.89___$268.12____$528.63


So the Answer you are looking for is $109.35inc gst :scooter:

Or FAT Zero if you stick it on hold and don't get cought :shifty::innocent:

nzmikey
13th December 2011, 13:41
Or FAT Zero if you stick it on hold and don't get cought :shifty::innocent:

lol yup & that = NO insurance:bash: & since he is on the shore & I am on the shore ...... if he goes that way he can stay the hell away from me:laugh:

imdying
13th December 2011, 13:46
lol yup & that = NO insuranceOnly if they can prove to the insurance ombudsman that no rego was the reason for the accident/theft, which obviously they can't. Registration, and indeed WOFs, have nothing to do with insurance.

Fast Eddie
13th December 2011, 13:46
All those bogus excuses for increases... Ouch!

Does this mean that all Christchurch residents should be slapped with an ACC levy because they live in a high risk area and highly likely to require treatment?:rolleyes:

haha I think that is actually happening yes, its going to cost everyone a lot more to insure their houses from now on and to build etc..

Fast Eddie
13th December 2011, 13:50
Only if they can prove to the insurance ombudsman that no rego was the reason for the accident/theft, which obviously they can't. Registration, and indeed WOFs, have nothing to do with insurance.

hmm.. I'll have to look that one up, pretty sure my insurance on my blade states that it must have current reg and wof, if I crash or crash into someone while riding and it didnt have wof or reg I doubt they would pay me.

However I think it is covered regardless of wof n reg from theft..

would have to look it up.. which i won't

nzmikey
13th December 2011, 14:00
Only if they can prove to the insurance ombudsman that no rego was the reason for the accident/theft, which obviously they can't. Registration, and indeed WOFs, have nothing to do with insurance.

ermmm I am 99% sure that you have to have rego to be covered for insurance coz if you dont then your bike is not up to a level set by the law , otherwise no fucker would pay for rego :blink:
but if your bike is in your garage & it has no wof & rego then yeah sure you would be covered for theft ( if your policy says that )

What scares the shit out of me is that my missus is driving her car around with no rego so i am hoping like fuck she dont have a smash or it is going to cost her ( & by her I mean ME :facepalm: )

imdying
13th December 2011, 14:18
otherwise no fucker would pay for rego :blink:You what now? :blink:

jasonu
13th December 2011, 14:22
All those bogus excuses for increases... Ouch!

Does this mean that all Christchurch residents should be slapped with an ACC levy because they live in a high risk area and highly likely to require treatment?:rolleyes:

No, the whole country will be paying for that.

nzmikey
13th December 2011, 14:23
You what now? :blink:

lol yeah that was a cock up , that was not supposed to be there .
( it sounded better in my head ) :laugh:

5150
13th December 2011, 14:25
Funny that, when I use to race around on a big 1100 with a learner license many, many years ago.:innocent: I stopped at the lights and got rear ened. Still insurance paid up, cause technically i was stationary and not riding when the guy hit me from behind. He tried to fight it but got ordered to pay out. lol As I recall the bike didn't have a current wof or reg as I was riding it to the testing station to sort it all out at the time of the accident :whistle:

nzmikey
13th December 2011, 14:29
Funny that, when I use to race around on a big 1100 with a learner license many, many years ago. I stpped at the light sand got rear ened. Still insurance paid up, cause technically i was stationary and not riding when the guy hit me from behind. He tried to fight it but got ordered to pay out. lol As I recall the bike didn't have a current wof or reg as I was riding it to the testing station to sort it all out at the time of the accident

Yeah I can understand that as you got hit , :laugh: next time your rego runs out go nose ya front wheel into a new BMW door & try for the insurance claim & let me know how it goes , Technically your bike wont be "road legal" therefore they dont have to cover you while you are on the road :confused:

Fast Eddie
13th December 2011, 14:32
Funny that, when I use to race around on a big 1100 with a learner license many, many years ago.:innocent: I stopped at the lights and got rear ened. Still insurance paid up, cause technically i was stationary and not riding when the guy hit me from behind. He tried to fight it but got ordered to pay out. lol As I recall the bike didn't have a current wof or reg as I was riding it to the testing station to sort it all out at the time of the accident :whistle:

lol what insurance company? I've dealt with a few so would like to join up to this one!

I'm sure that if the engine is running, you are sitting on it and you are on the public road then you are riding the bike. you recon one would get off drink driving if your stationary on the road? Cause that would help me on the way home from the pub..

Fast Eddie
13th December 2011, 14:34
lol what insurance company? I've dealt with a few so would like to join up to this one!

I'm sure that if the engine is running, you are sitting on it and you are on the public road then you are riding the bike. you recon one would get off drink driving if your stationary on the road? Cause that would help me on the way home from the pub..

I already know the answer.. even if u are drunk asleep in the drivers seat with the key in the ignition then you get charged.. ign doesnt even have to be on.

Always sleep in the passenger seat and make sure keys are not near the ign.

5150
13th December 2011, 14:36
Yeah I can understand that as you got hit , :laugh: next time your rego runs out go nose ya front wheel into a new BMW door & try for the insurance claim & let me know how it goes , Technically your bike wont be "road legal" therefore they dont have to cover you while you are on the road :confused:

Well, it was either my stationary bike or a new HSV in front of me. As it was he took out my bike which flew off and wrote off a brand new Merc going the other way. The dickhead in the car that hit me was eating a mince and chese pie (yummmm:drool:) at the time

5150
13th December 2011, 14:37
lol what insurance company? I've dealt with a few so would like to join up to this one!

I'm sure that if the engine is running, you are sitting on it and you are on the public road then you are riding the bike. you recon one would get off drink driving if your stationary on the road? Cause that would help me on the way home from the pub..

Good ole' State Insurance :)

5150
13th December 2011, 14:39
I already know the answer.. even if u are drunk asleep in the drivers seat with the key in the ignition then you get charged.. ign doesnt even have to be on.

Always sleep in the passenger seat and make sure keys are not near the ign.

Might have to try it next time :shutup:

5150
13th December 2011, 14:49
Good ole' State Insurance :)

And in all fairness that was 15 or so years ago when I was young, dumb and full of......

I have grown up since then, got a full license and a smaller bike

nzmikey
13th December 2011, 14:52
Ok so I have just got off the Phone to State ...... If you have a CURRENT WOF & a CURRENT REGO & you are insured & you have a crash you are Covered :wings:

If you have a CURRENT WOF & your REGO is OUT & you have a crash & you are insured you are covered :wings:

If you DONT have a WOF & you have a crash (EG: it is caused by bald tyres etc ) & you are insured , you are NOT covered :no:

But in short why run the risk of getting screwed by the :Police:

time to eat humble pie me thinks :facepalm:

5150
13th December 2011, 14:58
Ok so I have just got off the Phone to State ...... If you have a CURRENT WOF & a CURRENT REGO & you are insured & you have a crash you are Covered :wings:

If you have a CURRENT WOF & your REGO is OUT & you have a crash & you are insured you are covered :wings:

If you DONT have a WOF & you have a crash (EG: it is caused by bald tyres etc ) & you are insured , you are NOT covered :no:

But in short why run the risk of getting screwed by the :Police:

time to eat humble pie me thinks :facepalm:

WOF part makes sense, cause your bike needs to be up to standards for safety. Reg has nothing to do with safety of the bike, has it? It's just a tax we pay for a privelage to ride on the road.

As for fines, Reg is over $500 for big bikes, fines for getting cought is only $400. If you ride sensibly, then you less likely to attract attention and get cought. You work out if it is worth the risk for you and which is cheaper.

Madness
13th December 2011, 15:10
As for fines, Reg is over $500 for big bikes, fines for getting cought is only $400. If you ride sensibly, then you less likely to attract attention and get cought. You work out if it is worth the risk for you and which is cheaper.

And what price do you put on the 20 Demerit Points associated with using a motor vehicle with the rego on hold? http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/4849437/Demerit-points-hiked-for-unlicensed-cars

thecharmed01
13th December 2011, 15:46
And what price do you put on the 20 Demerit Points associated with using a motor vehicle with the rego on hold? http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/4849437/Demerit-points-hiked-for-unlicensed-cars

Yowch! I forgot about that!

5150
13th December 2011, 15:48
And what price do you put on the 20 Demerit Points associated with using a motor vehicle with the rego on hold? http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/4849437/Demerit-points-hiked-for-unlicensed-cars

Only 20? :confused:

Vinz0r
13th December 2011, 15:52
As for fines, Reg is over $500 for big bikes, fines for getting cought is only $400.

Pretty sure the fine for being caught with an unlicensed vehicle is $150 and 20 demerits. Pretty tempting tbh, as it has no effect on your insurance cover.

Vinz0r
13th December 2011, 15:55
Also: "Police would continue to give a person, ticketed for the first time with an unlicensed car, a two-week grace period to licence their vehicle before any penalties applied."

If you do get caught, just put 3 months on. You won't be out of pocket as it'll be cheaper (or the same price) as the fine itself, and the fine and demerits will be removed.

HenryDorsetCase
13th December 2011, 16:15
some regos arent: it cost me $35 to register the trailer for a year today.

thecharmed01
13th December 2011, 16:40
some regos arent: it cost me $35 to register the trailer for a year today.

*like*
:Punk:

caspernz
15th December 2011, 08:22
I thought demerit points were brought in for "Unsafe" behaviour. If you lost demerit points for no reg and took it to court how would they explain that having no reg was "Unsafe"? 2 insurance companies lost my business
because they felt no reg was a safety issue. Winning such a case in court would only result in them applying demerit points to WOFs though.

There's a cookie cutter approach at play here. If you choose to go unregistered, you display a behaviour type that an insurance company may wish to shy away from, ie the risk tolerant type.

So you want to only obey or apply those laws that suit you on the day? :clap::clap:

oneofsix
15th December 2011, 08:24
If you choose to go unregistered, you display a behaviour type that an insurance company may wish to shy away from,

:yes: you think and don't just tow the line. Now bend down and be a good serf.

:jerry:

Ladydragon
15th December 2011, 08:58
I have a question I will be buying someones warrent and rego for them next year his bike is a ZX10R I would like to buy the rego for a year how much will this cost me I have no idea (shock me)

BoristheBiter
15th December 2011, 09:02
I have a question I will be buying someones warrent and rego for them next year his bike is a ZX10R I would like to buy the rego for a year how much will this cost me I have no idea (shock me)

$592 for 12 months

HenryDorsetCase
15th December 2011, 09:09
So you want to only obey or apply those laws that suit you on the day? :clap::clap:

Don't we all?

Ladydragon
15th December 2011, 09:29
$592 for 12 months

Ok I have another question what happens if he has been driving around without those for 2 years and no photo licence since it first came out what happens then.

Don't you think this is a good christmas pressie new tyres front and back one break and motorbike battery for his bike how lucky is he what a nice girlfriend I am:rolleyes:

BoristheBiter
15th December 2011, 09:53
Ok I have another question what happens if he has been driving around without those for 2 years and no photo licence since it first came out what happens then.

Don't you think this is a good christmas pressie new tyres front and back one break and motorbike battery for his bike how lucky is he what a nice girlfriend I am:rolleyes:

Well if he has not had rego for 2 years he will need to pay back fees unless it has been on hold.
the license part is a different matter. I assume he had a licence so it would mean his has expired so he has no licence to drive.

I say keep the money, buy some new shoes and a dress as a present to yourself, ditch him and find someone that can sort their shit out.

nzmikey
15th December 2011, 12:01
Well if he has not had rego for 2 years he will need to pay back fees unless it has been on hold.
the license part is a different matter. I assume he had a licence so it would mean his has expired so he has no licence to drive.

I say keep the money, buy some new shoes and a dress as a present to yourself, ditch him and find someone that can sort their shit out.

Could not have said that better myself good Sir +1 for you . :clap::clap:

( or are we getting trolled )

BoristheBiter
15th December 2011, 12:25
Could not have said that better myself good Sir +1 for you . :clap::clap:

( or are we getting trolled )

it wouldn't be the first time:laugh:

Tigadee
15th December 2011, 12:30
No, the whole country will be paying for that.

Fark! :facepalm:

Can I pay less ACC if I wear an inflatable sumo suit everytime I ride my bike? :rolleyes: My very own air bags, no less...

allycatz
15th December 2011, 13:21
ok, my bike is already registered, it's a 250cc.
My rego expires in 3 months, how much would it be to get a new rego?

Deleted...read post wrong

chasio
15th December 2011, 14:04
WOF part makes sense, cause your bike needs to be up to standards for safety. Reg has nothing to do with safety of the bike, has it? It's just a tax we pay for a privelage to ride on the road.

As for fines, Reg is over $500 for big bikes, fines for getting cought is only $400. If you ride sensibly, then you less likely to attract attention and get cought. You work out if it is worth the risk for you and which is cheaper.

Don't forget that parking wardens can issue tickets (but without demerits) for no WOF and rego. So you could ride like an angel and never be stopped by plod but pick up a big fine if a warden spots WOF and/or rego are out while you're in the shop buying a pie...

Certainly I would avoid having them expired if you park on road in Auckland CBD as they are pretty sharp-eyed on that stuff. ($200 for expired WOF: I forgot = my fault.) I'm sure they are also on the lookout elsewhere.

Ladydragon
15th December 2011, 16:41
Well if he has not had rego for 2 years he will need to pay back fees unless it has been on hold.
the license part is a different matter. I assume he had a licence so it would mean his has expired so he has no licence to drive.

I say keep the money, buy some new shoes and a dress as a present to yourself, ditch him and find someone that can sort their shit out.

I don't mind doing it hes payed me for the battery so far but after i've read all this i've told him it's not going to happen unless he re sits his licence I put my foot down!!!!

Ladydragon
15th December 2011, 16:46
I don't mind doing it hes payed me for the battery so far but after i've read all this i've told him it's not going to happen unless he re sits his licence I put my foot down!!!!

I forgot to write I don't really need anything the only thing I did shout myself the other day was a new motorbike helmet from Cycletreads I brought myself one of those Oxford BioHarzard Helmets (Red) thats all I wanted.I don't really wear dresses

thecharmed01
15th December 2011, 17:09
Ok I have another question what happens if he has been driving around without those for 2 years and no photo licence since it first came out what happens then.

Don't you think this is a good christmas pressie new tyres front and back one break and motorbike battery for his bike how lucky is he what a nice girlfriend I am:rolleyes:

Hmm, if he's had no rego for two years, and the plates aren't on hold, then good luck with that as 12 months after the registration expires the plates are removed from service and no longer able to be re-registered.
But the registered owner will still have the outstanding fees due. So even if you re-plate, he will still owe back-dated rego fees.

Dead plates is a whole bunch of hoops to go through as you have to put the bike through a full re-certification - the same process all new bikes/cars go through when they are imported into the country and the cert guys are not easy!
They look at all sorts of weird stuff, and you then still need to get a WOF/REG after the Cert.
The last certification we went through, we swore never again as it was near on $1000 and they picked on stupid stuff that had to be done. And then after certing, it still failed the WOF as the cert guys don't check WOF requirements :doh:

caspernz
15th December 2011, 18:52
Well if he has not had rego for 2 years he will need to pay back fees unless it has been on hold.
the license part is a different matter. I assume he had a licence so it would mean his has expired so he has no licence to drive.

I say keep the money, buy some new shoes and a dress as a present to yourself, ditch him and find someone that can sort their shit out.

Ouch, there's good advice right at the end there....

Ladydragon
15th December 2011, 21:57
Hmm, if he's had no rego for two years, and the plates aren't on hold, then good luck with that as 12 months after the registration expires the plates are removed from service and no longer able to be re-registered.
But the registered owner will still have the outstanding fees due. So even if you re-plate, he will still owe back-dated rego fees.

Dead plates is a whole bunch of hoops to go through as you have to put the bike through a full re-certification - the same process all new bikes/cars go through when they are imported into the country and the cert guys are not easy!
They look at all sorts of weird stuff, and you then still need to get a WOF/REG after the Cert.
The last certification we went through, we swore never again as it was near on $1000 and they picked on stupid stuff that had to be done. And then after certing, it still failed the WOF as the cert guys don't check WOF requirements :doh:


I had a funny feeling it was going to be expensive I thought with the tyres (both) and break plus rego/warrent but I didn't know any of the other things I thought it would all come up to about $1,000 which I have ready to give to him looks like it will cost more.He'll be paying me back but gradully but it's just I can get the bike on the road quicker

thecharmed01
15th December 2011, 22:08
I had a funny feeling it was going to be expensive I thought with the tyres (both) and break plus rego/warrent but I didn't know any of the other things I thought it would all come up to about $1,000 which I have ready to give to him looks like it will cost more.He'll be paying me back but gradully but it's just I can get the bike on the road quicker

I should add, that the recert fee was nearly $1000.
That wasn't including the WOF cost and the Registration cost.

He might really want to think about whether a new bike might be cheaper and sell that for parts LOL

Ladydragon
16th December 2011, 07:47
I should add, that the recert fee was nearly $1000.
That wasn't including the WOF cost and the Registration cost.

He might really want to think about whether a new bike might be cheaper and sell that for parts LOL

Gosh reading all these posts it's shocking me more what thecharmed01 just wrote then you perhapes I should surgest to him what you just said to do but he'd never sell his motorbike.I mean it's starting to sound like it's going to cost me $2,000 to start off with apprantly his front tyre and back one is just over $200 and the other one just over $300 battery didn't cost much spose the break would be the cheapest new thing that has to be to put on the bike.

Of course you can tell I havn't got a bike yet but when I do everything will be current all the time.I have to thank everyone who has given me this information in the posts they have written it has been extremly helpful for me i'm actually thinking perhapes i'll just buy the tyres now and he can suss out the rest.

thecharmed01
16th December 2011, 08:12
Keeping things current (I always feel) does keep things cheaper in the long run, but then there are other things you can do which can help.

I mean, not having a current reg & wof will make you susceptible to being fined and get demerits should you get pulled over/park it on the road.
But if you know you aren't going to bother to register it, it's free to put the plates on hold, which at the least stops them going dead and stops it costing you in backdated rego charges.

We've had one car here (project) on hold for about 17 years now hehe.
Boy person just fills out the form every 12 months, they send a reminder letter when it's due again.
Never costs a cent, and IF (I'm not convinced he will ever finish it haha) he ever gets it roadworthy, then he has to wait till the 'hold' period runs out, but he can simply get a WOF and then go in and register it from scratch.
You can put them on hold for 3, 6 or 12 months from memory.

My show car is on hold for 3 months at a time as I only have it legal over summer cause I won't drive it in the rain as I refuse to register it when I'm not going to drive it :laugh:

BoristheBiter
16th December 2011, 08:22
Keeping things current (I always feel) does keep things cheaper in the long run, but then there are other things you can do which can help.

I mean, not having a current reg & wof will make you susceptible to being fined and get demerits should you get pulled over/park it on the road.
But if you know you aren't going to bother to register it, it's free to put the plates on hold, which at the least stops them going dead and stops it costing you in backdated rego charges.

We've had one car here (project) on hold for about 17 years now hehe.
Boy person just fills out the form every 12 months, they send a reminder letter when it's due again.
Never costs a cent, and IF (I'm not convinced he will ever finish it haha) he ever gets it roadworthy, then he has to wait till the 'hold' period runs out, but he can simply get a WOF and then go in and register it from scratch.
You can put them on hold for 3, 6 or 12 months from memory.

My show car is on hold for 3 months at a time as I only have it legal over summer cause I won't drive it in the rain as I refuse to register it when I'm not going to drive it :laugh:

We put the road bikes on hold over winter as well. It just seems stupid not to if we aren't going to ride them.

Ladydragon
16th December 2011, 11:53
We put the road bikes on hold over winter as well. It just seems stupid not to if we aren't going to ride them.

I asked him this morning and he said that he hasn't had the plates on hold

Subike
16th December 2011, 13:31
Also: "Police would continue to give a person, ticketed for the first time with an unlicensed car, a two-week grace period to licence their vehicle before any penalties applied."

If you do get caught, just put 3 months on. You won't be out of pocket as it'll be cheaper (or the same price) as the fine itself, and the fine and demerits will be removed.

If you get caught, why reg for three months? why not just for a week?

I went on a ride last weekend, the only ride out of town I will do this year,

Was I silly and reg bike for three months??

Hell no.... 8 days registration, $20.40. You can reg for 24hrs if you want too...

Went home and put it back on exemption hold that night....

Why pay more tax than you use...

As for reg affecting insurance ....WOF is all they require...and kept at wof condition.. which we all do as safe riders.. not like cage drivers

5150
19th December 2011, 13:35
Don't forget that parking wardens can issue tickets (but without demerits) for no WOF and rego. So you could ride like an angel and never be stopped by plod but pick up a big fine if a warden spots WOF and/or rego are out while you're in the shop buying a pie...

Certainly I would avoid having them expired if you park on road in Auckland CBD as they are pretty sharp-eyed on that stuff. ($200 for expired WOF: I forgot = my fault.) I'm sure they are also on the lookout elsewhere.

All very well, but I make a point not to park my bike in town (more for theft then anything else)

Katman
19th December 2011, 16:24
Why are regos so expensive?

Ask these guys.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/145046-Riders-down-all-OK.-Video

oldrider
19th December 2011, 21:41
Ask these guys.

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/145046-Riders-down-all-OK.-Video

I found it hard to be sympathetic about that one! .... Not a good look! :no: Must have been the other guy's fault again! :mellow: Maybe it really "was" the road! :confused:

thecharmed01
20th December 2011, 07:50
As for reg affecting insurance ....WOF is all they require...and kept at wof condition.. which we all do as safe riders.. not like cage drivers

Check with your insurance company, NZI require current Reg AND wof....

baffa
20th December 2011, 13:40
Check with your insurance company, NZI require current Reg AND wof....

Whilst this should be true, lack of registration often wont prevent a claim being paid.

thecharmed01
20th December 2011, 15:06
Whilst this should be true, lack of registration often wont prevent a claim being paid.

Not entirely true. In some cases, perhaps. And with some companies perhaps.....
But I would never rely on that.

I deal with insurance companies all the time, and they always seem to be looking for an 'out' so to speak.
I've seen so many claims denied due to a lapsed registration.
I've seen assessors, walk to the front of a damaged vehicle, then they don't even look at the damage. Once they see the Rego is out, they leave again as their is no point checking damage when the claim will be denied....

I also photograph damaged vehicles, on behalf of a couple of the major insurance companies, as my job.
The first images on the requirement list are WOF and REG labels which have to be the first images seen when I email them through. They are very specific about that.