What a great feeling - quitting my job

[orangeback]

Great felling quitting my job , after 9 years, i feel great about chucking it in. They tried to put a guilt trip on me, scare me that its not a good time to be looking for work over x mas, but i did it. and it felt good.
They came back with more money ( what an insult ) i wasn't getting that b4.) i said i didn't hand my notice to get more money. and it shouldn't take that to get it.
Offered a diffident management structure to report to,
rock on 2012 and a change of career.

[mashman]

maaaaaaaagic... did the same after 3 years last march (wife weren't too chuffed), ahhhhhhhhhhhh yes, I remember that feeling well. All the best mate, sure you'll be up and runnin in no time

[unstuck]

Change is good for the soul.:Punk:

[Madness]

Awesome feeling, innit? congratulations.

When I last changed jobs I soon found myself sleeping better, getting sick less often and generally smiling more often as well. Now, if only I could earn the same coin as before...

[mashman]

Awesome feeling, innit? congratulations.

When I last changed jobs I soon found myself sleeping better, getting sick less often and generally smiling more often as well. Now, if only I could earn the same coin as before...

:rofl: sounds vaguely familiar... apart from sleeping better, but the smile factor was definately up.

[Berries]

Nice one, have done the same myself a few times. The unknown is in fact great.

[Sable]

Given the current job market that was pretty fucking ill-considered.

[The Lone Rider]

I'm definitely lookin for opportunities to quit my day job as a technician.

And I'm going to smile ear to ear when I give notice.

[Virago]

...They came back with more money ( what an insult ) i wasn't getting that b4.) i said i didn't hand my notice to get more money. and it shouldn't take that to get it...

Well done. It gives an awesome boost to your self-esteem when you stand your ground on such things.

My last work as an employee ended back in 2003. I was turned down for a pay rise, despite being shown figures confirming that my branch was making awesome profit - in fact propping up the entire South Island. Two days after submitting my notice, the national manager flew in to take me out to lunch - his last attempt to avoid losing me. His comment "We don't want to lose you - name your own price" was met with the suggestion that it was too late to pay me what they should have being paying me to start with.

Sometimes you have to do what feels right. Good luck for the future. :yes:

[AllanB]

Good man. I did the same 6 months ago - not a day goes by where I don't pat myself on the back.

[nudemetalz]

I wouldn't be approaching Air NZ at the moment for a job.....

[NinjaNanna]

So what did you do for a job? What do you want to do now?

I've been in the same industry since 1997 and frankly I'm bored - trouble is I've no idea what I'd be good at doing and find rewarding.

[MSTRS]

So, what was your job and could I do it?
I've been applying for jobs for a whole YEAR - nothing...

[avgas]

So, what was your job and could I do it?
I've been applying for jobs for a whole YEAR - nothing...

Likewise.....found one of the problems was this..... http://wherethefismyjob.blogspot.com/2011/08/recruitment-industry-in-nz-is-broken.html

Good on you OB for quiting.
Me? I am unfortunately stuck in my job as long as the wife and baby at at home. The only way out is replacing this job with another. Really hope one of my applications comes back soon.
Job market is not terrible, its actually booming.......problem is dealing with recruitment agents whom think they own the job market. I am now applying directly to companies and getting better responses now.

[Little Miss Trouble]

Job market is not terrible, its actually booming.......problem is dealing with recruitment agents whom think they own the job market. I am now applying directly to companies and getting better responses now.

Absolutely correct.
Last week I stopped applying to jobs that were advertised by recruiters and applied for just three that were listed directly. Interview for one of those places first thing yesterday morning, offered the job by midday :banana:

[Flip]

I have just done the same thing.

I have been employed as a engineer in the petrochemical industry for the last 30 years, walked out of my last employer with 5 years of their R+D. I found what looked like a great job in a petrochem engineering construction company, I lasted 7 days before I walked, hated the place. Now working for a irrigation company and have never had so much fun, out in the sun, hooning around farms in a 4WD fixing all sorts of things, no fucking staff and if I fuck up its just water.

Just going out now to have a look at a weir in a river that is used to measure the flow because it is giving me silly measurements.

[Pseudonym]

I went from overalls to a suite and tie.
(not so much the tie anymore)
Same money and I’m not getting torn open, covered in grease or burnt.
Should have done this when I was 20, not nearly two decades later!

[HenryDorsetCase]

I went from overalls to a suite and tie.
(not so much the tie anymore)
Same money and I’m not getting torn open, covered in grease or burnt.
Should have done this when I was 20, not nearly two decades later!

a lounge suite? a bedroom suite?

enquiring minds.......

[avgas]

a lounge suite? a bedroom suite?

enquiring minds.......
3 piece I imagine

Leave the man alone nitpicker
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/76/159699690_cf533e3c9e.jpg

[HenryDorsetCase]

I was hoping for a bedroom suite with ties...... ooh errr.

[vifferman]

I was getting really pissed off with things, and was offered a better job with a previous employer, plus an extra $10k, plus benefits (free medical insurance, free life and disability insurance, free gym memebership). I was looking forward to going, "In your face! Up yours!!", but my boss is such a lovely guy I just felt bad telling him I was about to ruin his Xmas...
And strangely, I don't feel better. I have some reservations about the new job, and being here for three more works weeks is gonna be hard. Filling out my HR quizz made me very agnry, as it stirred up in me lots of feelings about the things that piss me off about the job, and the shit job some of the (mis)managers here are doing.

[ducatilover]

I just ran out of work, does that count?
:facepalm:

[Maha]

Great felling quitting my job , after 9 years, i feel great about chucking it in. They tried to put a guilt trip on me, scare me that its not a good time to be looking for work over x mas, but i did it. and it felt good.
They came back with more money ( what an insult ) i wasn't getting that b4.) i said i didn't hand my notice to get more money. and it shouldn't take that to get it.
Offered a diffident management structure to report to,
rock on 2012 and a change of career.

You quit a job and turned down more money before securing another job?
Along with the feel good, I take it thats also afforable?

[MSTRS]

You quit a job and turned down more money before securing another job?

I think most of us are having trouble with that one.
Brave? Or stupid? Only time will tell.
OP - Do report back in a few months.

[orangeback]

I think most of us are having trouble with that one.
Brave? Or stupid? Only time will tell.
OP - Do report back in a few months.
i had 3 jobs tabled and now has become 5 ,but i have now signed a new contract for the new year,

[kiwifruit]

I've been applying for jobs for a whole YEAR - nothing...

Are you having a laugh?

[hellokitty]

Awesome feeling, innit? congratulations.

When I last changed jobs I soon found myself sleeping better, getting sick less often and generally smiling more often as well. Now, if only I could earn the same coin as before...

I know if I got a new job I would be less stressed but would have to take a pay cut of about $10,000. Then I would stress about not being able to pay the mortgage!


So what did you do for a job? What do you want to do now?

I've been in the same industry since 1997 and frankly I'm bored - trouble is I've no idea what I'd be good at doing and find rewarding.

I am in the same boat as you - I want a change but have no idea!


Absolutely correct.
Last week I stopped applying to jobs that were advertised by recruiters and applied for just three that were listed directly. Interview for one of those places first thing yesterday morning, offered the job by midday :banana:

I went for a job interview through an agency - they never actually met me - just talked to me over the phone - they sent me to the interview which went well, but then the agency called my current employer to get a reference! Can you believe that, especially when I specifically said that this was to be strictly confidential.


I just ran out of work, does that count?
:facepalm:

ME too :no:

[Little Miss Trouble]

I went for a job interview through an agency - they never actually met me - just talked to me over the phone - they sent me to the interview which went well, but then the agency called my current employer to get a reference! Can you believe that, especially when I specifically said that this was to be strictly confidential.



They sound like complete cowboys, they are NOT allowed to contact anyone for a reference without your expressed permission

[mashman]

You quit a job and turned down more money before securing another job?
Along with the feel good, I take it thats also afforable?

I did exactly that and it wasn't affordable at all, no money coming in never is. Quit my job for sanity reasons (1 guy left 8 months before after suffering a heart attack). Wife, 3 kids, BIG mortgage, no job, worst that could happen is we lose the lot and end up on the dole (been there, well as a student, apart from money stresses we had a fuckin ball). I've never been out of work for more than a couple of weeks since leaving Uni. After a few interviews I started to realise that my core skills had become outdated, fuckin coding, with the younger and the spoonfed and the cheaper coming out of Uni with quals and training that surpassed mine. Hey ho... spoke to the bank who I've banked with since we got here 5 years ago, they told me to burn my savings (which I was going to do anyway) and load up my credit card (I was not prepared to do that) before they'd give us a mortgage holiday (credit card being the failover)... fuckin cunts... the lady was similar to yourself Maha, "you quit your job without another one"... I coulda slapped her about quite happily (you may get away with a spanking). Anyhoo, turns out I was 3 years behind the technological times, so brought out some old code, head down, arse up and got stuck into re-training whilst applying for jobs. 9 weeks later and I bagged a contract after meeting a guy at a kids party... which in turn turned into another contract which finishes in a couple of weeks, and so I'll be back on the job hunt. Had a second interview today which would mean a switch from coding to consultancy and am mulling over the "change"... could be fun and I've been dying to get out of the coding trap (although I wanna do something very different). 15k less than the job I left... My wife is in the last 2 for a job, but if she takes the job she'll be working for approx -$115 per week after childcare costs, go figure...

Amazing how leaving your job and throwing yourself into the pressure pot focuses the mind though. Anyhoo, I have a bucket load of up to date skills (self trained), I remember how fuckin cool javascript is and have reflected on my career and identified some interesting skills that I've taken for granted.

Enjoy it OB... it can be an interesting ride.

As a side note... It seems the only thing you can't do these days is leave your job for sanity reasons. Stupid fuckin world and it's stupid fuckin inhabitants. If there wasn't a better way I'd give up and go on the dole....... ach, some of you won't have a fuckin clue what I'm talking about (yes yes, no more than usual)...

There's more to life than money!

[MSTRS]

i had 3 jobs tabled and now has become 5 ,but i have now signed a new contract for the new year,
Well then - that's ok....

Are you having a laugh?

Does this face look like it's laughing?
Last place I applied to had 2 positions up for grabs...they had 700 applicants.

[vifferman]

It seems the only thing you can't do these days is leave your job for sanity reasons.
No? That's more or less what my wife wants to do. She earns nearly twice what I do, but is REALLY unhappy. Basic problem is that last year we went on holiday for a week or so with one of her team (of 4) who she was good mates with, and living with her for that time she found out what a selfish bitch this woman really is (with a little bit of eye-opening help from me...) Since then, this bitch has very cunningly and subtly undermined her, made her look bad, dumped work on her, etc. Her boss doesn't recognise this is going on because he's too busy being an Ambitious Arsehole, and is on her case all the time. Her health hasn't been the best as a result (high blood pressure, weight gain) and she's so unhappy she could just walk out at any second. This really tells the tale, as she's VERY conscientious and responsible. Every other day she asks, "Can I quit now?" I'd love to say yes, but we've a whole lot of expensive house renovations to do (leaky cladding, and it's outside the 20-year limit, so no gummint help. I'd also like to just burn the house to the ground, but she won't let me).
Hopefully, with my meagre-ish pay rise, we might be able to scrape by if she can find a part-time job, but it's unlikely. What's more likely is she will get really ill and have to quit anyway...

[kiwifruit]

Does this face look like it's laughing?
Last place I applied to had 2 positions up for grabs...they had 700 applicants.

There is a lot of work out there if you're willing to take it on. It may not be your chosen field but often a foot in the door is all you need.

[yungatart]

There is a lot of work out there if you're willing to take it on. It may not be your chosen field but often a foot in the door is all you need.

Thanks for your sage advice, Kiwifruit.
Of course, Mstrs didn't know that...
There is shit loads of work out there, and one is either over qualified, underqualified, too old, not experienced enough, too experienced, the wrong colour, size, sex or shape, or not. Yadayadayada....

[MSTRS]

There is a lot of work out there if you're willing to take it on. It may not be your chosen field but often a foot in the door is all you need.

Ah - I don't have a 'chosen field'. I do have a shit load of transferrable skills, applicable in many different job fields. But I've yet to find anyone who agrees...


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[oneofsix]

Thanks for your sage advice, Kiwifruit.
Of course, Mstrs didn't know that...
There is shit loads of work out there, and one is either over qualified, underqualified, too old, not experienced enough, too experienced, the wrong colour, size, sex or shape, or not. Yadayadayada....

Yeah a shit load of work out there and 20 shit loads of people looking for it. 2 jobs 700 applicants has already been quoted, funny how people like kiwifruit never seem to be able to compute these figures. 700 does NOT go in to 2, it still leaves 698.

[kiwifruit]

Ah - I don't have a 'chosen field'. I do have a shit load of transferrable skills, applicable in many different job fields. But I've yet to find anyone who agrees...

I bet you could get a job cleaning motel units straight away. Then, when you're finished cleaning for the morning go and offer to work for free for anyone who will let you, small businesses run by the owner preferably. That will turn into something sooner or later as you get feet in many doors.

[MSTRS]

Yeah a shit load of work out there and 20 shit loads of people looking for it. 2 jobs 700 applicants has already been quoted, funny how people like kiwifruit never seem to be able to compute these figures. 700 does NOT go in to 2, it still leaves 698.

Correct.

An honest 'typical' response would read more like...

We got your application. When we read the first line (your name) we decided that since we didn't like that name, we wouldn't bother reading any of the pathetic bleatings that followed, so we consigned the lot to the bin. Don't bother wasting our oh-so-valuable time in future. Fuck off


I bet you could get a job cleaning motel units straight away. Then, when you're finished cleaning for the morning go and offer to work for free for anyone who will let you, small businesses run by the owner preferably. That will turn into something sooner or later as you get feet in many doors.Good advice for someone who has no job. And is prepared to be screwed over by Winz, going on and off the dole.
I, however, do have a job (one of those small businesses you mentioned). It does not pay the bills anymore. Hence my search.

[NinjaNanna]

@ kiwifruit: You do realise your talking to a man in his 40's don't you, not some silverspooner in their late teens early 20's?

[kiwifruit]

@ kiwifruit: You do realise your talking to a man in his 40's don't you, not some silverspooner in their late teens early 20's?


What has 40 got to do with anything?

A man, about 40 years old, walked into my place of employment a few weeks ago. He was averagely presented, smelt a bit poorly and had fairly poor people skills. He asked if we had any work going. I said no but got his cell phone number and started ringing around for him. He had a job by the end of the week thru a friend of a friend. All because he impressed someone with his keenness.

If you want to work you will. What the fuck are you doing on kiwibiker right now? If you're serious, go find yourself some work to do. <3

[MSTRS]

@ kiwifruit: You do realise your talking to a man in his 40's don't you, not some silverspooner in their late teens early 20's?

Why thank you, kind sir...

Actuall, KF, have you tried applying for a motel cleaning job (for instance)? You and 300 others, all of whom have done such work before - except you. Who they gonna hire?

[kiwifruit]

Why thank you, kind sir...

Actuall, KF, have you tried applying for a motel cleaning job (for instance)? You and 300 others, all of whom have done such work before - except you. Who they gonna hire?

I've had good results just door knocking. People recognise and appreciate the keenness. They see you out there physically looking to work, rather than just applying for advertised positions.

Go and use the time you're spending posting on kiwibiker to gain experience. Work for free if you have to. Think outside the square. I'm just trying to help you, man!

[MSTRS]

Yeah I know you are. I'm just trying to illustrate the reality of the job market as it is in HB.

[dogsnbikes]

There's more to life than money!

Certainly is!!

Its been over 7 years since I have worked more than 23 weeks in a year..:msn-wink:

So I'm loving my retirement job and still have over 20 years to go before the pension is due

[Headbanger]

A few weeks ago I threw in the best job, with the best pay, with the best conditions I have ever had, simply because I was homesick.

Lmfao.

I'm a fucker like that, But its good to see the wife and kids everyday and to live in my own house, sleep in my own bed.


Funny enough I have applied for a single job, and its going well so far, been called back for a second interview and it seems the process is being accelerated to get me onboard, If I get this one it will instantly elevate me to a level that could have taken a decade.

[Headbanger]

No? That's more or less what my wife wants to do. She earns nearly twice what I do, but is REALLY unhappy. Basic problem is that last year we went on holiday for a week or so with one of her team (of 4) who she was good mates with, and living with her for that time she found out what a selfish bitch this woman really is (with a little bit of eye-opening help from me...) Since then, this bitch has very cunningly and subtly undermined her, made her look bad, dumped work on her, etc. Her boss doesn't recognise this is going on because he's too busy being an Ambitious Arsehole, and is on her case all the time. Her health hasn't been the best as a result (high blood pressure, weight gain) and she's so unhappy she could just walk out at any second. This really tells the tale, as she's VERY conscientious and responsible. Every other day she asks, "Can I quit now?" I'd love to say yes, but we've a whole lot of expensive house renovations to do (leaky cladding, and it's outside the 20-year limit, so no gummint help. I'd also like to just burn the house to the ground, but she won't let me).
Hopefully, with my meagre-ish pay rise, we might be able to scrape by if she can find a part-time job, but it's unlikely. What's more likely is she will get really ill and have to quit anyway...

Fuck that, Personally I'd support my wife in what she wanted to do and say fuck the house.

Sell it, do something you like, be happy.


Not trying to be a judgmental cunt, You guys follow your own road, Just saying what I would do.

[avgas]

I went for a job interview through an agency - they never actually met me - just talked to me over the phone - they sent me to the interview which went well, but then the agency called my current employer to get a reference! Can you believe that, especially when I specifically said that this was to be strictly confidential.

Its not just agencies..........I once ripped into the head of Human Resources at Westpac.
Paul Louis - head of HR @ Westpac is a knobhead. See attached. He wouldn't know HR if it bit him on the arse and gave him an infection.


Perhaps, its a lack or understanding, or an abuse of procedure. But to put it blankly the recruitment process at Westpac is shocking.

Recently my wife (whom was a Westpac employee - for many years, in the recent past), not only applied for a role back at Westpac. She was skilled enough to get the job, and found herself in a short listing position very quickly. Great news I thought - as I have always pushed her to return to Westpac as an employee. I am a very proud Westpac customer, and have been for many years.

As an ironic twist of fate, my wife also found the role was to be under an old boss of hers. Someone who knew her skills, and understood that in the past not only was she a good employee she had several Westpac awards stating that she was one of the best in sales in NZ. He was super pleased to have such a skilled employee come back to him.

We are now at the final stage of the recruitment process with her application - and it seems the last step throws the whole Human Resource Management manual out the window.

As the final step - she must give the contact details of her direct manager, in the current firm she is working for.
You have to be kidding. You cant be that serious to make that big a recruitment mistake.
I have told her not to give her current bosses details UNTIL she has job security.

She has given references from ALL her previous employers. AND she has already has a successful history within Westpac. You can't be that stupid to thing she would jeopardize her current employment (with another financial firm) on the possibility that she will be finally approved for RE-EMPLOYMENT at Westpac.

I eagerly await your response as you think this might be required? Or if its not required - how your going to remedy this hole in your systems that we have found.
Please note that I have sent this to another division within Westpac. If I hear no response within 24 hours I will send it 2 another 2 members/areas within Westpac.
If I hear no response within 48 hours - I will release it to the press.


The concerns you have raised regarding Westpac’s recruitment process are acknowledged. Due to
Privacy Act requirements we are unable to respond in detail about the specific matters relating to your
wife’s application for a role at Westpac unless we have your wife’s authority to do so.

Upon receipt of a written authorisation from your wife which authorises us to discuss her current
application for employment at Westpac we would be happy to discuss the specific issues you have raised
concerning her recruitment experience.

I did however wish to address the issues you raise in a more general context. Westpac has an extremely
robust recruitment process which ensures we achieve recruitment best practice from both a New
Zealand and global perspective.

Integral to any decision to recruit any potential candidate is reference checking. Our recruitment
process requires that referees provided by candidates are current or former managers or team leaders of
the candidate. References provided by people other than someone the candidate reported to, such as a
work colleague or trainer are not considered satisfactory.

We appreciate that at times it is not appropriate for an external candídate’s current manager to be a
referee and we are typically flexible provided the candidate can provide another appropriate referee.

Thank you for taking the time to provide Feedback on your perceptions of Westpac’s recruitment
process. We are comfortable that our processes ensure we provide potential candidates with a quality

recruitment experience and that we select candidates that ensure our customers get the very best
service and advice from the Bank.

Paul LouisHead of Recruitment


Thank you for you response.
Though I completely disagree with what you believe to be true. It is irrelevant at this point - as Yuqi will be accepting a new management offer on the table, from ANZ.
Thank you for all efforts until this point. I won't be pursing the matter further.

These are just the ending of the conversation.........it was far more interesting before then. At the time my wife was working for ING (competitor!)

[avgas]

It may not be your chosen field but often a foot in the door is all you need.

Sorry but I call bluff on this.
There are fuck all companies in New Zealand that promote potential. When they hire you (currently) you are fixing a problem they have. That problem will not magically go away.
So your foot becomes a concrete slipper. And you stay in that position.

Don't believe me? Name a single CEO in NZ that "worked his way up". There is no corporate ladder in NZ, just people jumping from company to company. With each jump if your lucky you get a little higher.

[jrandom]

Don't believe me? Name a single CEO in NZ that "worked his way up".

Roger McRae, McConnell Dowell.

Peter Maire, Navman.

Just a couple of chaps I've worked for.

There's a lot of lazy-arse defeatist bullshit in this thread.

[jrandom]

Actually, KF, have you tried applying for a motel cleaning job (for instance)?

Yes, he has.

I took kiwifruit on his word on this topic a year ago, walked out of my job in Auckland and moved to Taupo with nothing lined up.

Total time spent unemployed since then: 3 days.

I basically managed it by having a driver's licence, speaking good England and not being afraid to do filthy unpleasant things and sweat a lot. Agreeing, without blinking, to work 12 hour days, 12 on 2 off, at bugger all above minimum wage, helped too.

The point of the 'just go get a fucking job' approach is that it requires a willingness to work.

The actual amount of genuine work that most people have to do is laughable. Compared to the majority of human history, we live like kings on holiday in our technological civilisation.

I believe this fact has warped people's perceptions of what they should be expected to do in return for a living.

[oneofsix]

Yes, he has.

I took kiwifruit on his word on this topic a year ago, walked out of my job in Auckland and moved to Taupo with nothing lined up.

Total time spent unemployed since then: 3 days.

I basically managed it by having a driver's licence, speaking good England and not being afraid to do filthy unpleasant things and sweat a lot. Agreeing, without blinking, to work 12 hour days, 12 on 2 off, at bugger all above minimum wage, helped too.

The point of the 'just go get a fucking job' approach is that it requires a willingness to be exploited.

The actual amount of genuine work that most people have to do is laughable. Compared to the majority of human history, we live like kings on holiday in our technological civilisation.

I believe this fact has warped people's perceptions of what they should be expected to do in return for a living.
Think you meant being exploited so have fixed it for you.

Also you have a distorted view of human history, not surprising because those that wish to exploit you are the ones that have the most control over the way history is presented

[jrandom]

Think you meant being exploited

Well, I dunno about that, man. I've been having fun. And have you noticed the brand new Harley-Davidson in my profile picture?

Still, whinge as you see fit. It leaves more holes in the economy for people like me to fill.

:sunny:

[Headbanger]

The actual amount of genuine work that most people have to do is laughable. Compared to the majority of human history, we live like kings on holiday in our technological civilisation.

I believe this fact has warped people's perceptions of what they should be expected to do in return for a living.

Complete agreement.

Meanwhile we have fuckers paid to sit at home, watching sky tv and smoke who complain about poverty and rich pricks.

[vifferman]

Not trying to be a judgmental cunt, You guys follow your own road, Just saying what I would do.
Well that's fair enough - didn't sound judgemental at all.

Fuck that, Personally I'd support my wife in what she wanted to do and say fuck the house.
Sell it, do something you like, be happy.
That's what I/we'd like to do. Trouble is.. well - actually, there's several troubles. Things aren't always as simple as one'd like them to be. I've had several rather dumb and ill-considered career path changes already, and we've moved around the country a fair bit (Hamilton > Chch > Tauranga > D'Auckland). The moves didn't really result in a better standard of life, and in real terms, I'm worse off financially and perhaps otherwiseally than if I'd stayed in my Hamilton job.
There's also the MutantTroglodyteSpawn to consider. Yeah, they're adults, but somewhat retarded ones at that. While it'd probably possibly do 'em some good to be kicked out and have to find their own way, it might also break 'em.
I'd love to ditch the house, but until we get the leakiness sorted, it's not going to happen in a hurry.
So we're fucked either way by the crap decisions I've made and that the vifferbabe has supported. While it's time for us to make some decisions that are good for her, and that I support, dunno how/when/why/where yet....

[vifferman]

The point of the 'just go get a fucking job' approach is that it requires a willingness to work.

... and the benefit is, it usually leads to rewards, both intrinsic and unexpected. I've always been prepared to tackle anything, and had some interesting jobs as a result. After 5 years of university, I took the first job that came along, a temporary (6 week) labouring job on a gummit farm at basic wages. Worked really hard, and it got extended, and extended again until before I knew it, a year had passed. Applied for a technician's job that came up, and missed out to a well-qualified chick who turned out to be crap, and who left after a few months. They encouraged me to apply again, and gave me the job. Pay and work was slightly better, but after a while I realised I was becoming gummintified, applied for the first job that came along, and spent 9 years in a very well paid lab job. A couple of crap decisions later, and I ended up unexpectedly unemployed. So... I did house-husbanding duties for a couple of years, supplemented by packing kiwifruit, painting, plastering, and some very lucrative contract programming work that fell into my lap. Interesting times...
And then I moved to D'Auckland, and ... well, you know what that's like... :rolleyes:

Time for some real planning, a bit of good luck, and a complete change of lifestyle, I reckon....

EDIT: Ack Shirley, it's time to go out to the gargre (I'm wagging work today, using up some sick leave), and remove my rear shock so Dr Bob can overhaul it (if he replies to email...)

[ducatilover]

There is shit loads of work out there, and one is either over qualified, underqualified, too old, not experienced enough, too experienced, the wrong colour, size, sex or shape, or not. Yadayadayada.... Seems to be the reaction I get :facepalm:


What has 40 got to do with anything?

A man, about 40 years old, walked into my place of employment a few weeks ago. He was averagely presented, smelt a bit poorly and had fairly poor people skills. He asked if we had any work going. I said no but got his cell phone number and started ringing around for him. He had a job by the end of the week thru a friend of a friend. All because he impressed someone with his keenness.

If you want to work you will. What the fuck are you doing on kiwibiker right now? If you're serious, go find yourself some work to do. <3 Want my number mate :bleh:
I'm too qualified to work in petrol stations, supermarkets etc :facepalm: I don't care what silly bits of paper I have, I would rather enjoy a new job.

[jrandom]

I'm too qualified to work in petrol stations, supermarkets etc :facepalm: I don't care what silly bits of paper I have, I would rather enjoy a new job.

Send me a CV, dude. PM me for my work email address.

[onearmedbandit]

We've advertised for yard hands at our car yard and we maybe get a handful of replies, and out of that handful we get maybe one who has put the effort into dressing properly. When people complain there are no jobs out there, I shake my head in dismay.

As for me, well I was lucky enough that my present employer spent weeks looking for me and found me sitting at home watching TV and working on my bike. They made me an offer I couldn't refuse (well I could have, but a change sounded good) and here I am. Unlike the ad says, I guess you don't have to seek lol.

[ducatilover]

We've advertised for yard hands at our car yard and we maybe get a handful of replies, and out of that handful we get maybe one who has put the effort into dressing properly. When people complain there are no jobs out there, I shake my head in dismay.

As for me, well I was lucky enough that my present employer spent weeks looking for me and found me sitting at home watching TV and working on my bike. They made me an offer I couldn't refuse (well I could have, but a change sounded good) and here I am. Unlike the ad says, I guess you don't have to seek lol.
I've seen some slobby looking people go for jobs, even if I arrive on the bike I will have a tidy set of clothes with me to wear.
A car yard would float my boat :cool: I'll scour the Palmy/Feilding scene again and see if anyone needs something washed (the stupid part is I tend to know a shit load more about what most people are selling than they do)

[MSTRS]

...(the stupid part is I tend to know a shit load more about what most people are selling than they do)

And there we have it. The young are easily employed because they know everything.

So all you people on here banging on about how 'easy' it is to get a job, enjoy it while you can. Soon you'll have responsibilities outside of work, you'll wonder where your forties went and you'll become a highly experienced, know-nothing unemployable yob.

[ducatilover]

And there we have it. The young are easily employed because they know everything.

So all you people on here banging on about how 'easy' it is to get a job, enjoy it while you can. Soon you'll have responsibilities outside of work, you'll wonder where your forties went and you'll become a highly experienced, know-nothing unemployable yob.
Only my one area of knowledge...car facts, specs etc. My uncle is a car dealer (very successful one at that) and he knows sweet F.A about anything he's selling. He's a good salesman though.

It's certainly not easy to get a job at the moment.

[kiwifruit]

Soon you'll have responsibilities outside of work, you'll wonder where your forties went and you'll become a highly experienced, know-nothing unemployable yob.

Unemployable my arse.

Been out knocking on doors today? You're not working because you don't want to work. It's as simple as that.

[yungatart]

Unemployable my arse.

Been out knocking on doors today? You're not working because you don't want to work. It's as simple as that.

You have spent too long hanging around with Mr Random..his arrogance has infected your brain, and you have become a clone. :rolleyes:
Blow it out your arse.
You have no idea what you are talking about in this instance.

[kiwifruit]

Blow it out your arse.


Heh!!!



You have no idea what you are talking about in this instance.

What's so special about this case? What is stopping him getting a job other than his unwillingness to go forth and work? I'm not trying to be a poo here, i'm just trying to understand what is going on. I understand how I may be offending, it is not my intention.

If someone shows they are keen to work i will help them get work. I've done it many times for all sorts of people. I'm not the only one who'll do such thing. A lot of people want to help people who help themselves. It's hard to help someone who won't help themselves, which seems to be the case here?

[yungatart]

Heh!!!



What's so special about this case? What is stopping him getting a job other than his unwillingness to go forth and work? I'm not trying to be a cunt here, i'm just trying to understand what is going on. I understand how I may be offending, it is not my intention.

If someone shows they are keen to work i will help them get work. I've done it many times for all sorts of people. I'm not the only one who'll do such thing. A lot of people want to help people who help themselves. It's hard to help someone who won't help themselves, which seems to be the case here?

Like I said..you have no idea

[jrandom]

You have spent too long hanging around with Mr Random..his arrogance has infected your brain

It's not my arrogance that's infectious. It's the fact that I'm generally right about shit.

:sunny:

[yungatart]

It's not my arrogance that's infectious. It's the fact that I'm generally right about shit.

:sunny:

Silly me..of course you are:baby:

[vifferman]

I'm generally right about shit.

:sunny:
What about other stuff? Can one infer you're wrong about those? :confused:

[jrandom]

What about other stuff? Can one infer you're wrong about those? :confused:

Oh, I'm often wrong about all sorts of things. Shit, though, when it comes to shit, well! I've got shit down pat.

[kiwifruit]

Like I said..you have no idea

Care to expand? What are the circumstances preventing employment (or the seeking of employment) in this particular case?

[yungatart]

There is shit loads of employment seeking going on in this household.
Not only that, there is also shit loads of retraining and upskilling happening, a lot of that on a voluntary basis.

The circumstances around not finding employment are just that..we haven't found it.
Doesn't mean we/he aren't looking or that we/he are unwilling.

And, for the record, we are both currently employed for little monetary return.

[MSTRS]

What's so special about this case? What is stopping him getting a job other than his unwillingness to go forth and work? I'm not trying to be a cunt here, i'm just trying to understand what is going on. I understand how I may be offending, it is not my intention.

If someone shows they are keen to work i will help them get work. I've done it many times for all sorts of people. I'm not the only one who'll do such thing. A lot of people want to help people who help themselves. It's hard to help someone who won't help themselves, which seems to be the case here?

I think YT is right - you've been infected...
You do not know what you are talking about with reference to me and my job search.
I have a 'job' - as you know - but due to the general economic situation it is not providing a reasonable income, and certainly not a steady one. However, I'm not about to jeopardise what I do have on the off-chance that some $12.75/hr rostered slavery position will be, or lead to, a decent replacement source of income. Round these parts there IS no better for walk-ins.

[kiwifruit]

Oh well. Good luck.

[MSTRS]

The thing is, for someone who is unemployed, what you and Dan are saying has merit.
But your advice doesn't fit all scenarios. And it certainly doesn't fit mine.

[kiwifruit]

When I saw your post about not being able to find work for a year I assumed you'd been unemployed for that time.

I could offer further input if you like? Ideas on living on less money etc. :dodge:

[ducatilover]

Ideas on living on less money etc. :dodge: I'm the king of this :devil2:

[yungatart]

When I saw your post about not being able to find work for a year I assumed you'd been unemployed for that time.

I could offer further input if you like? Ideas on living on less money etc. :dodge:

I told you you had no idea..

I could see your ideas and raise you another 1000. I am the master (mistress) on living on less, I learned it at my mother's knee.

[Edbear]

I told you you had no idea..

I could see your ideas and raise you another 1000. I am the master (mistress) on living on less, I learned it at my mother's knee.

I don't think I've ever earned more than 27k a year. Hoping to change that with the business. I think my last year's income was 17k.

Wifey earns a lot more now than I do but that's only in the last couple of years.

Somehow we've pretty much got all we need including a new car. We don't waste, (well not much), money though.

[kiwifruit]

I told you you had no idea..


You never expanded though. Just told me I was wrong.




I could see your ideas and raise you another 1000.

It's not a competition. I'm sure I have some ideas you'd never think of. You'd think of things i'd never think of!
Other people would have ideas neither you or I would ever think of.

Do you see my point? Do you want to hear other people's ideas or not?

[MSTRS]

Good advice for someone who has no job. And is prepared to be screwed over by Winz, going on and off the dole.
I, however, do have a job (one of those small businesses you mentioned). It does not pay the bills anymore. Hence my search.


When I saw your post about not being able to find work for a year I assumed you'd been unemployed for that time.

I could offer further input if you like? Ideas on living on less money etc. :dodge:

I assumed that my post above was clear enough...
And I also am a past master at living on the smell of an oily rag. However, the rag is running out of smell.

[kiwifruit]

I assumed that my post above was clear enough...
And I also am a past master at living on the smell of an oily rag. However, the rag is running out of smell.

You can use that rag to soak up oil drips from my ducati if it gets to that stage.

[MSTRS]

You can use that rag to soak up oil drips from my ducati if it gets to that stage.

:not: I am not worthy...

Just to make sure there is no misunderstanding...we are not destitute, or about to be turfed out by the bank etc. We are just sick of having to struggle to make ends meet, with a lifestyle that is fairly limited by many peoples' standards. We'd like to improve that situation.
But Lotto isn't working, and a job with a net improvement in income isn't happening either.

Heard of the time/money equation?

[avgas]

Roger McRae, McConnell Dowell.

Peter Maire, Navman.

Just a couple of chaps I've worked for.
Was Roger a lollipop guy or a shovel guy?
Likewise who was Peter's boss @ Talon again?
Let me repeat......"Give me 1 CEO who climbed from the bottom up"

[jrandom]

Was Roger a lollipop guy or a shovel guy?

Shovel. Not that I know for sure that he's never driven a lollipop. I'll ask him. Heh.

Edit: And he's not the only one. I was talking to another senior construction industry manager t'other day. He started out with the company 27 years ago as a labourer and operator. Now he goes to black-tie functions and accepts engineering industry awards in between jet-setting around the Pacific sorting things out at major infrastructure projects.

People who hold lollipops go on to hold... many things.


Likewise who was Peter's boss @ Talon again?

Starting a company in your garage and going through three bankruptcies before you get anywhere definitely counts as climbing up from the bottom, man. Taking a minimum-wage job for an existing company isn't the only route.

[avgas]

And there we have it. The young are easily employed because they know everything.

So all you people on here banging on about how 'easy' it is to get a job, enjoy it while you can. Soon you'll have responsibilities outside of work, you'll wonder where your forties went and you'll become a highly experienced, know-nothing unemployable yob.
Just to turn things towards a more positive light, and stop the shit slinging....
Lets just start of with me saying - your right it is hard to get a job. But to put things in perspective.

If its hard, then therefore it will require more effort. I have noticed it is hard lately in my applications. So I have become more resolute.

Back in the day I would get quite depressed if I got turned down from a job, but now I have changed my attitude a little. I got turned down by 2 jobs today alone........but on the flip side I have an interview on monday.

Its a numbers game man, you have to make your number bigger. If 700 people are applying for 1 job, make sure you apply to 100 jobs and increase your odds.
Think of applying for jobs like buying a lotto ticket. Not many people get a job, so you have to get as many tickets in there as you can. Spam the shit out of every company in NZ saying your wanting work.
Until you do that, your simply 1 out of 1,000,000. Times have changed, we have to change with them.

[avgas]

Starting a company in your garage and going through three bankruptcies before you get anywhere definitely counts as climbing up from the bottom, man. Taking a minimum-wage job for an existing company isn't the only route.
Never said it was.......if you go back - my comment was against the adage "Get your foot in the door", which to be frank doesn't fit well with NZ employers as a whole.
They are hiring you to fix one of their problems, nothing more. In fact many don't give a rats arse if you have ambition. I know this as I have lost jobs by telling them how ambitious I am for working for them and progressing through the company.
In many situations they want a robot. They feed you instruction, you do work.

I wasn't really trying to pull punches at great firms like Navman and MacDow (whom my dad currently works for). But fact of the matter is these companies have some fantastic employees who will never be CEO. In fact I would no be supprised if the CEO of both come from overseas next time.

Foot in the door is now the exception rather than the rule. But I suspect you knew this already according to your (and mine) job histories.

[caspernz]

Maybe I'm prejudiced in my opinion, but to me the various posters have the same outlook....if you think you can you can....whether it be positive or negative. Apply any number of cliches you like to follow this up.

[mashman]

No? That's more or less what my wife wants to do. She earns nearly twice what I do, but is REALLY unhappy. Basic problem is that last year we went on holiday for a week or so with one of her team (of 4) who she was good mates with, and living with her for that time she found out what a selfish bitch this woman really is (with a little bit of eye-opening help from me...) Since then, this bitch has very cunningly and subtly undermined her, made her look bad, dumped work on her, etc. Her boss doesn't recognise this is going on because he's too busy being an Ambitious Arsehole, and is on her case all the time. Her health hasn't been the best as a result (high blood pressure, weight gain) and she's so unhappy she could just walk out at any second. This really tells the tale, as she's VERY conscientious and responsible. Every other day she asks, "Can I quit now?" I'd love to say yes, but we've a whole lot of expensive house renovations to do (leaky cladding, and it's outside the 20-year limit, so no gummint help. I'd also like to just burn the house to the ground, but she won't let me).
Hopefully, with my meagre-ish pay rise, we might be able to scrape by if she can find a part-time job, but it's unlikely. What's more likely is she will get really ill and have to quit anyway...

That suckin fucks man. All the best to the missus.

Apparently it's not personal :mad:

[mashman]

NZ, BAU capital of the world... these chicken bites are pretty decent though.

[Oakie]

Really odd hearing about 700 applicants. I'd be freakin' happy to get 7 for each job I advertise. Then again, support work for the intellectually disabled isn't everyone's cup of tea. I'm picking it'll become more popular early next year though when the new sleepover rates are paid. Presently a full time 'House Coordinator' at ours working about 35 / 38 hours over 4 days and sleeping over 3 nights one week and 4 the next earns about $40k per annum. Those who care to pick up the odd casual shift as well can comfortably earn about $46k. Our highest earning person over the last 12 months earned $55k without overworking herself. New rates now legislated means these will all rise by about $4600 next year and as the new rates work their way through to the fully legislated amount (minimum wage) in 2 years we're going to have the odd situation where most of our full time support workers will be earning more than their managers at about $55k basic.

[MSTRS]

Its a numbers game man, you have to make your number bigger. If 700 people are applying for 1 job, make sure you apply to 100 jobs and increase your odds.


It is. But at the same time, there has to be 100 advertised jobs that require a person with one's particular qualifications (be they experience or a bit of paper).
Let's see - If I had degrees in engineering, social work and soil science, a bar manager's licence, every driving licence class known to man, was a plumber, mechanic and electrician by trade, had worked in forestry, roading, retail, IT and as a deckhand on a fishing boat - then there might have been 50 jobs in the last year that I may have been a qualified applicant.
Sure, there is the whole of the rest of the country to consider, but we really don't fancy moving elsewhere. Not when there are still options...

[blue rider]

It is. But at the same time, there has to be 100 advertised jobs that require a person with one's particular qualifications (be they experience or a bit of paper).
Let's see - If I had degrees in engineering, social work and soil science, a bar manager's licence, every driving licence class known to man, was a plumber, mechanic and electrician by trade, had worked in forestry, roading, retail, IT and as a deckhand on a fishing boat - then there might have been 50 jobs in the last year that I may have been a qualified applicant.
Sure, there is the whole of the rest of the country to consider, but we really don't fancy moving elsewhere. Not when there are still options...

but but do you speak mandarin :girlfight:

fact is there is a bit of a job shortage in this country.
fact is a lot of people have lost jobs over the last 3 years, and not all of them are lazy, unkempt leeches happy to live of the dole.
fact is not everyone can uproot just like this and move to somewhere to start new - i have done it a couple of times and it does not get easier with age, or with family etc.
fact is that age discrimination is a fact, it happens, to experienced, over qualified etc....

so to say just try harder is a bit of limp comment, it gets tired after a while, painly visible as there are 700 people applying for 1 job. And that is just one of the jobs these 700 people have applied for.
What was that headline sometime ago in Auckland at the opening of a supermarket, 1000+ people lining up for some 30 positions to be filled?

I don't get much satisfaction out of my worklife, and I would pack up and move and might will if an opportunity presents itself, but those of us that have jobs with living wages we do consider us lucky.

[avgas]

It is. But at the same time, there has to be 100 advertised jobs that require a person with one's particular qualifications (be they experience or a bit of paper).
Let's see - If I had degrees in engineering, social work and soil science, a bar manager's licence, every driving licence class known to man, was a plumber, mechanic and electrician by trade, had worked in forestry, roading, retail, IT and as a deckhand on a fishing boat - then there might have been 50 jobs in the last year that I may have been a qualified applicant.
Sure, there is the whole of the rest of the country to consider, but we really don't fancy moving elsewhere. Not when there are still options...
What do you want to do?

[oneofsix]

but but do you speak mandarin :girlfight:

fact is there is a bit of a job shortage in this country.
fact is a lot of people have lost jobs over the last 3 years, and not all of them are lazy, unkempt leeches happy to live of the dole.
fact is not everyone can uproot just like this and move to somewhere to start new - i have done it a couple of times and it does not get easier with age, or with family etc.
fact is that age discrimination is a fact, it happens, to experienced, over qualified etc....

so to say just try harder is a bit of limp comment, it gets tired after a while, painly visible as there are 700 people applying for 1 job. And that is just one of the jobs these 700 people have applied for.
What was that headline sometime ago in Auckland at the opening of a supermarket, 1000+ people lining up for some 30 positions to be filled?

I don't get much satisfaction out of my worklife, and I would pack up and move and might will if an opportunity presents itself, but those of us that have jobs with living wages we do consider us lucky.
And all those true facts will be lost on the fukards that think the jobs are out their. We have family friends like this, you get them to concede that it isn't as they make out and nek minit square bloody 1 again. None so blind as those that don't want to see.

[avgas]

Just checked my inbox. For 2011 I have 52 "decline" emails.
But I only need 1 "offer" one to get a job.

I am being picky on what I am applying for. I have a job, and I want to improve my life. In 2009 when I lost my job I had 220 declines in 3 months - I was desperate and applying for everything I could do. But I got 1 "offer" email and thats all it took.
I have been headhunted since then, but I want out of this industry/role. I only took it before due to desperation (I can't get benefit).

I would have washed dishes at the time. Its pretty depressing when you get in a situation like that. Which is why I know what you guys are feeling - but "Harden up - keep applying" is the only advice I can give you that will make a difference.
Fact of the matter is you can cry hell or high water about the job crisis...........I did...........but it actually achieves nothing.
This country is fucked and jobs aren't going to magically appear any time soon, this is why you have to spam your name out there (apply for jobs you can't do), you have to knock on doors.
Sitting here crying over spoiled milk achieves nothing.

[MSTRS]

What do you want to do?

What I'm doing now - with work coming through the door.
Since it's not, and getting worse, I need to work for someone else. Doing a fair day's work for a fair day's pay.
As to what that job might be - I have no idea. I can turn my hand to many things, but as I said above, I don't have paper/experience in areas that would increase my opportunities.
Pointless going to Uni/Polytech to get paper too - fresh graduates in all fields are fucking off overseas to get work...

[kiwifruit]

fukards that think the jobs are out their.

There* ARE jobs out there. They may be jobs people think they are too good to do or jobs they think don't pay well enough.... but they do exist. If you're prepared to do dirty work, 12 hour days, 7 days a week for minimum wage you'll get work easily. If not, it'll be harder.


None so blind as those that don't want to see.

Indeed!

[yungatart]

There* ARE jobs out there. They may be jobs people think they are too good to do or jobs they think don't pay well enough.... but they do exist. If you're prepared to do dirty work, 12 hour days, 7 days a week for minimum wage you'll get work easily. If not, it'll be harder.


Where is the life in that?

[MSTRS]

Heard of the time/money equation?


If you're prepared to do dirty work, 12 hour days, 7 days a week for minimum wage ...

That's not it!

[kiwifruit]

As I said, if you're not prepared to work, you'll find it hard to find a job. :D

I'm not talking about your situation, MSTRS, rather addressing the statement: "there are no jobs out there".

[skippa1]

There are jobs out there, it is not as easy as some think to tap into them though. I know that in my line (business management) there are jobs all over NZ, maybe not where I am though at present. So it may mean moving for some to get a job, some dont want to. I am moving from Nelson in the new year to Auckland to take up a new job......new opportunities bring a sense of excitement and new challenges. Can be as good as a holiday.

[mashman]

As I said, if you're not prepared to work, you'll find it hard to find a job. :D

I'm not talking about your situation, MSTRS, rather addressing the statement: "there are no jobs out there".

Is there a job available for everyone that wants one? Will earning minimum wage stop the bank from repossessing someones home? Are the bank going to help out in that scenario (for a short period yes, failing that, no they couldn't give a fuck), or should you sell everything that you have earned, yes earned, throughout your life in order to keep the wolf from your door and even then once you've sold everything the wolf still comes. I can understand why people won't just do anything for minimum wage and will hold out for something that'll keep them in the manner to which they have become accustomed. There's aren't enough jobs available, hence there are no jobs out there.

as the lady says



Where is the life in that? and unfortunately it's an every day occurrence. It pisses me off no end.

[kiwifruit]

If you're feeling down-and-out with what your life's all about

Lift your head up high and blow your brains out

:baby:

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[Headbanger]

Funny enough I have applied for a single job, and its going well so far, been called back for a second interview and it seems the process is being accelerated to get me onboard, If I get this one it will instantly elevate me to a level that could have taken a decade.


Heh, That turned to shit.

3 interviews, HR, Site management and then regional management.psychology testing, verbal reasoning testing, Mathematical reasoning testing, Then I had to do a formal presentation based on the structure they gave me, then a full medical, a site visit where I was introduced to me new co-workers, shown the site and my work station.

followed by a phone call to say I didn't make it through.

Yee fucking haaa.

Never mind, applied for another role a few days back, had the interview on Monday, Was notified I had the job on Tuesday, and on Thursday I head to Taupo to start my new role on a mobile geothermal exploratory thermal drilling rig.

[avgas]

Heh, That turned to shit.

3 interviews, HR, Site management and then regional management.psychology testing, verbal reasoning testing, Mathematical reasoning testing, Then I had to do a formal presentation based on the structure they gave me, then a full medical, a site visit where I was introduced to me new co-workers, shown the site and my work station.

followed by a phone call to say I didn't make it through.

Yee fucking haaa.
Heh. I had the same problem with Revera (http://www.revera.co.nz/Revera.aspx) and Vulcan Steel (http://www.zenbu.co.nz/entry/1115680-vulcan-steel-ltd) last year. Sometimes I wonder if they want me to hold their hands through the whole process.........but at the end of day I am simply the bitter guy who got turned down.
But please if your hiring people - don't waste their time. Theirs is just as precious as yours.

[avgas]

What I'm doing now - with work coming through the door.
Since it's not, and getting worse, I need to work for someone else. Doing a fair day's work for a fair day's pay.
As to what that job might be - I have no idea. I can turn my hand to many things, but as I said above, I don't have paper/experience in areas that would increase my opportunities.
Pointless going to Uni/Polytech to get paper too - fresh graduates in all fields are fucking off overseas to get work...
Actually the 'paper' thing in NZ is a myth. I have enough paper to kill a man.........yet I can be replaced tomorrow with a guy who has none but work experience similar to mine.
In any other country paper counts. In NZ it rarely does. Take it from someone who is supposed to have "5 letters" after his name and still can't find a better job (and my work is drying up here too).

[Brett]

After having been made redundant about 16 months ago, I started my own business (well 2 of them). Reading this thread gives me all of the inspiration I need to continue pushing ahead every time that I think that it might be better/easier to go back to working for someone else. Head down, bum up...the hard work will eventually pay off. Every time I peruse trademe jobs or seek.co.nz I am more and more convinced that my own future and prosperity will come from my own ingenuity.

[avgas]

After having been made redundant about 16 months ago, I started my own business (well 2 of them). Reading this thread gives me all of the inspiration I need to continue pushing ahead every time that I think that it might be better/easier to go back to working for someone else. Head down, bum up...the hard work will eventually pay off. Every time I peruse trademe jobs or seek.co.nz I am more and more convinced that my own future and prosperity will come from my own ingenuity.
Whatadoin Mista?

[Brett]

Whatadoin Mista?

I have a services marketing company, own half of an energy efficiency, insulation and clean heating business and as of November last year, a boutique property development company...working on the first deal at the moment...last year was a real rollercoaster!

[jafar]

I have a services marketing company

Your a pimp ???:shutup:

[avgas]

Your a pimp ???:shutup:
He does raise a good point.
Are you providing marketing services? Or providing marketing, for services?

[Brett]

He does raise a good point.
Are you providing marketing services? Or providing marketing, for services?

marketing, for services. Edit - else I would have written "marketing services" as opposed to "services marketing".

[Brett]

Your a pimp ???:shutup:

I can be if you want me to be:shutup:

[vifferman]

Now that I'm down to the last two (2!) days in my current role, I'm getting rather apprehensive about starting my new job next week. (And rather bored, as I've been cut out of the endless rounds of meetings, reports, etc. Thankferk for being able to post on KiwiBiker with no-one reprimanding me for it!)

[Brett]

Now that I'm down to the last two (2!) days in my current role, I'm getting rather apprehensive about starting my new job next week. (And rather bored, as I've been cut out of the endless rounds of meetings, reports, etc. Thankferk for being able to post on KiwiBiker with no-one reprimanding me for it!)

Goodluck with the new job then!

[jrandom]

on Thursday I head to Taupo to start my new role on a mobile geothermal exploratory thermal drilling rig.

Choice bro. You working for MB Century then? Or are they just doing production wells?

I was going to say 'good timing, there's a trackday on the 21st' but I just checked and realised it's only a Suzuki day. Stink.

Edit: Srsly, everyone, move to Taupo if you can't find work. Contact Energy's spending nigh on a billion dollars developing the Wairakei geothermal field at the moment. There's jobs everywhere. It'll be well over a billion dollars if they go ahead with the Tauhara II power station after Te Mihi.

[Headbanger]

Choice bro. You working for MB Century then? Or are they just doing production wells?

I was going to say 'good timing, there's a trackday on the 21st' but I just checked and realised it's only a Suzuki day. Stink.

Edit: Srsly, everyone, move to Taupo if you can't find work. Contact Energy's spending nigh on a billion dollars developing the Wairakei geothermal field at the moment. There's jobs everywhere. It'll be well over a billion dollars if they go ahead with the Tauhara II power station after Te Mihi.

http://www.iceland-drilling.com/?PageID=398&NewsID=1543



Jardboranir has reached agreement with one of New Zealand’s largest energy companies, Mighty River Power for a drilling project in New Zealand. The contract, valued at ISK 3bn, will be signed later this month. The project involves drilling in the Ngatamariki geothermal steam field, some 17 km north-east of Lake Taupo in the middle of New Zealand’s North Island. The energy will supply a new electricity generation plant in the area. The plant will initially output 82 MW, and it will be extended in stages. The contract has a minimum term of two years. Jardboranir’s largest drilling rig, Týr, will be transported half-way around the world for the project. Between 30 and 40 experts from Jardboranir are expected to travel overseas to work on the project and its preparation.

Im going to be locked on site for two weeks at a time, Not allowed to leave the site perimeter.

[Katman]

Im going to be locked on site for two weeks at a time, Not allowed to leave the site perimeter.

Taupo can be thankful for small mercies.

[Headbanger]

Taupo can be thankful for small mercies.

I'm going to break out so I can do some skids outside your workshop.


Muhahahahaha.

Funny enough the company that has hired me is 100m up the road from your location.

[Katman]

Funny enough the company that has hired me is 100m up the road from your location.

I'm going to have a word to them.

[jrandom]

http://www.iceland-drilling.com/?PageID=398&NewsID=1543

Choice.


Im going to be locked on site for two weeks at a time, Not allowed to leave the site perimeter.

Why?

[Katman]

Why?

Taupo is full of bad men.

[Headbanger]

Why?

Because they said so :shifty:

The role is H&S manager and they aren't allowed to run the plant without someone filling that role onsite, The plant runs 24 hours a day so its a case of working a shift and then being on call (and onsite, accommodation and food provided) for the next shift.

After two weeks of this you get two weeks off and a big slab of cash in the bank.

[Spearfish]

Heh, That turned to shit.

3 interviews, HR, Site management and then regional management.psychology testing, verbal reasoning testing, Mathematical reasoning testing, Then I had to do a formal presentation based on the structure they gave me, then a full medical, a site visit where I was introduced to me new co-workers, shown the site and my work station.

followed by a phone call to say I didn't make it through.

Yee fucking haaa.

Never mind, applied for another role a few days back, had the interview on Monday, Was notified I had the job on Tuesday, and on Thursday I head to Taupo to start my new role on a mobile geothermal exploratory thermal drilling rig.

Sounds interesting, is that the sort of job that can only be done on an exploratory thermal drilling rig or could it be done anywhere and this just happens to be on an exploratory thermal drilling rig?

Cause shyt its a narrow opportunity's job, but farkin interesting though...:laugh:

Answered above

[Oakie]

I head to Taupo to start my new role on a mobile geothermal exploratory thermal drilling rig.

So you got a job making holes. Good-oh! :bleh:

(p.t.)

[The Lone Rider]

A year and a half ago, I read this thread and envied Orange for moving on to better things.


Today, after nearly 6 years I handed in my resignation. The place I was at was caustic, they did the sneaky and wouldn't let people finish apprenticeships, the place was poorly run, and maintenance was a dirty word.

I will be up skilling in a different trade, and hope where I eventually get taken in, I will in fact be able to finish the qualification and enjoy it in the process.

[avgas]

I handed in mine last week. Its funny now - every time someone rolls their eyes about some BS around my current work I get a warm glow knowing that after 3 more weeks I will never have to deal with it ever again.

For me the move was simple. My work wanted to send me all over the country to do engineering projects - I want to be home at night to help the wife and play with the boy. Not to mention the last month I have done various shifts lasting until 3am to get project tenders out the door.

I missed my boys first steps and first words. Not anymore.

Sick of it. Was sick of it after 2 months, unsure how I have lasted 3 and half years.
On to something new with these guys (http://www.carparkingtechnologies.com/), doing a 9-5 and getting paid more.

[Geeen]

I did the same about a month ago, 5 years at a toxic poorly run workplace was screwing with my health. Thankfully my wife got herself a job (now the sproggs are finally at school) to take the pressure off me a bit. First couple of weeks at the new place have been sweet, except for the massive cold I got when the stress and exhaustion from previous employer came off.

Its an awesome feeling leaving a crap workplace for an organised one.

[Maki]

Sorry to hear about all these bad work places and I am glad to hear some of you have moved on to better things. I count my blessings every day. I love my work and they would have to drag me out of there kicking and screaming if they ever wanted to get rid of me. I would even continue, at least part time, even if I won some millions in lotto.

[avgas]

Sorry to hear about all these bad work places and I am glad to hear some of you have moved on to better things. I count my blessings every day. I love my work and they would have to drag me out of there kicking and screaming if they ever wanted to get rid of me. I would even continue, at least part time, even if I won some millions in lotto.
You work in porn don't you?

Nah seriously where do you work?

[GrayWolf]

Well done. It gives an awesome boost to your self-esteem when you stand your ground on such things.

My last work as an employee ended back in 2003. I was turned down for a pay rise, despite being shown figures confirming that my branch was making awesome profit - in fact propping up the entire South Island. Two days after submitting my notice, the national manager flew in to take me out to lunch - his last attempt to avoid losing me. His comment "We don't want to lose you - name your own price" was met with the suggestion that it was too late to pay me what they should have being paying me to start with.

Sometimes you have to do what feels right. Good luck for the future. :yes:

Yeh it's amazing how suddenly you get, we'll pay you what you're worth? I did similar 2 yrs ago... was called to the Regional Manager's office for a 'chat'... "maybe we have'nt been paying you what we should have, you've done an outstanding job for 3 years"... I actually had so much inner pleasure when i said, "sorry but you could'nt get close to what I'll be earning in the new job" beauty of itis, it was the truth... I love my job!!!

[Maki]

You work in porn don't you?

Nah seriously where do you work?

Let's just say that my work is interesting, rarely overwhelming, has a good life/work balance, is free from concerns with office politics, close to where I live and I feel that the work I do genuinely helps other people. Who could ask for more?

[The Lone Rider]

The place I was at promptly hired an ex-employee that they had told they did not want to hire again (when he applied).

What was 4 months "waiting for the papers" became a week.

And then they replaced me with 2 temps.


And run the place with 4 temps.


At more than x2 the cost in wages, and 1/4 the amount of output from unskilled workers.


They have 5 years max, before the place will have to shut down I reckon!