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Str8 Jacket
20th July 2005, 15:11
Well, well well no surprises here, happens all the time but who is it? Ive been told by a lil birdie that the some of them have been named overseas, but not too sure how accurate their information is?! The media are saying that two sports celebrities are involved and one female T.V celebrity . . . . I wonder who they are . . . For those of you who don't know what im talking about check out the news on stuff.co.nz.

placidfemme
20th July 2005, 15:21
yeah I read about this... didn't know who they were talkign about...

Oh well... at least when they're sitting in jail they can write the "Dummies guide to fucking up your life celebrity style"

Hitcher
20th July 2005, 15:30
Be careful what you repeat. Even if the names listed above are true, these people's identities are covered by a Court suppression order. Breaching said order can result in going directly to jail, not passing go and not collecting $200...

bugjuice
20th July 2005, 15:40
I'd be really surprised about half those names being involved, and not surprised with one or two. But to a point, any of them, I'd be surprised. Not to blag, but personally knowing a couple of those people myself, they're good respectable kiwis with families.
I'm sure it's just hype, don't believe everything you hear

GROOMER
20th July 2005, 16:28
If it was your average John Smith from the suburb next to yours, would you even hear/care about this story? But because a few people with "celebrity status" MAY be involved, the media goes mental, and half the country gets all excited about it. Don't understand the rationale behind it all.

Just me ranting ... please carry on.. :)

Sutage
20th July 2005, 17:27
I'd be really surprised about half those names being involved, and not surprised with one or two. But to a point, any of them, I'd be surprised. Not to blag, but personally knowing a couple of those people myself, they're good respectable kiwis with families.
I'm sure it's just hype, don't believe everything you hear

"good respectable kiwis" do "drugs" too, well just drug, anything not grown naturally should keep away from IMHO
not saying every family in a "drug ring" is respectable but hey not everyone in a drug ring is a big tough guy

MSTRS
20th July 2005, 17:36
Haven't heard any names, but someone sent me this....

Zed
20th July 2005, 17:55
If it was your average John Smith from the suburb next to yours, would you even hear/care about this story? But because a few people with "celebrity status" MAY be involved, the media goes mental, and half the country gets all excited about it. Don't understand the rationale behind it all.Simple rationale behind it really - celebrities are idols, they are this worlds role models who are invited into our homes through the idiot box, computer, etc to entertain us, and many a child/adult is influenced by them. When they get involved in unlawful activity they are breaching any trust that society has put in them. That is a big no-no! :nono:

idb
20th July 2005, 17:59
Simple rationale behind it really - celebrities are idols, they are this worlds role models who are invited into our homes through the idiot box, computer, etc to entertain us, and many a child/adult is influenced by them. When they get involved in unlawful activity they are breaching any trust that society has put in them. That is a big no-no! :nono:
I'm sooo glad that I'm dull and uninteresting.
I can get away with anything I want.........

Big Dave
20th July 2005, 18:06
I'm sooo glad that I'm dull and uninteresting.
I can get away with anything I want.........


My guess is that Arrowtown would be a pretty hard place to 'get away' with anything anyway, wouldn't it? Particularly that loud bikie with the dewcatis??

Big Dave
20th July 2005, 18:09
Simple rationale behind it really - celebrities are idols, they are this worlds role models who are invited into our homes through the idiot box, computer, etc to entertain us, and many a child/adult is influenced by them. When they get involved in unlawful activity they are breaching any trust that society has put in them. That is a big no-no! :nono:


Celebrity: A person who has walked accross hot coals to become famous and now hides behind dark glasses and complains about privacy.

Sensei
20th July 2005, 18:12
Don't care who they are ! If they do Class A See ya later .

idb
20th July 2005, 18:14
My guess is that Arrowtown would be a pretty hard place to 'get away' with anything anyway, wouldn't it? Particularly that loud bikie with the dewcatis??
Yep, I'm a terror alright... :mellow: ...no really, I rule this town... :mellow: ....well, the local kids are scared of me... :mellow:...alright, cats and dogs avoid me... :mellow: ...I'm the man of the house at least... :mellow: ....OK, I never leave the property without a raincoat and a hanky.....

HDTboy
20th July 2005, 18:42
Interesting to see the share price for charlies dropped 20c today

Big Dave
20th July 2005, 18:46
Don't care who they are ! If they do Class A See ya later .


With you there - if it's a white powder or crystals - don't get it out when I'm around. I hate that shit.
I was close to people who got the taste for the crystals. Not any more. They just got so fucked up I couldn't believe it. It's like they just drop completely out of your life - and theirs.

SixPackBack
20th July 2005, 18:48
.........Yawn..........fuck thats never happend before!!!!

FROSTY
20th July 2005, 18:56
guys n gals --possibly being paranoid here but this is a public forum --covered by the same laws as any other media--radio/tv etc
Thiose people have name supression and the fine to the forum might be pretty huge
sorry if Im bein paranoid

oldfart
20th July 2005, 19:26
guys n gals --possibly being paranoid here but this is a public forum --covered by the same laws as any other media--radio/tv etc
Thiose people have name supression and the fine to the forum might be pretty huge
sorry if Im bein paranoid

Don't see how this can be breaching court suppression orders as this forumn is only engaging in idle speculation & gossip. Someone saying it's Marc Ellis etc is doing so with out a shred of evidence so would chill :drinkup:

badlieutenant
20th July 2005, 19:27
mike king
nothing to see here

ajturbo
20th July 2005, 19:38
NNOOOOOOooo.

they are all my idolls!! (SP?)

hope you guys are wrong!!!

Hitcher
20th July 2005, 19:42
Don't see how this can be breaching court suppression orders as this forumn is only engaging in idle speculation & gossip. Someone saying it's Marc Ellis etc is doing so with out a shred of evidence so would chill
By naming names you are doing one of two things: Breaking the suppression order (if the name is correct); or defaming an individual (if the name is incorrect). Both practices are illegal, the former punishable by fine or imprisonment; the latter by Court-determined damages. As mentioned earlier, be very careful what you post here.

oldfart
20th July 2005, 19:48
By naming names you are doing one of two things: Breaking the suppression order (if the name is correct); or defaming an individual (if the name is incorrect). Both practices are illegal, the former punishable by fine or imprisonment; the latter by Court-determined damages. As mentioned earlier, be very careful what you post here.

So, say I speculate the sportsman is, I dunno say Sean Fitzpatrick, & it's not, or it is. I'm only blowing hot air. How can I be prosecuted for idol gossip. Surely this public forumn is no different than you'n me discussing it in a public place?

Skyryder
20th July 2005, 19:55
Simple rationale behind it really - celebrities are idols, they are this worlds role models who are invited into our homes through the idiot box, computer, etc to entertain us, and many a child/adult is influenced by them. When they get involved in unlawful activity they are breaching any trust that society has put in them. That is a big no-no! :nono:

Can't fault you on this one Zed. Once sportspeople get themselved involved in the entertainment, advertising and related industries they are placing themselves in the public areana. As such they are highly paid to promote whatever show or product that they endorse. Generaly speaking their value as entertainers and product endorsers relies on the amount of exposure that they can generate for themselves. Once they cross that line of public acceptance by a criminal act then celebs can hardly complain if the public takes an interest in their downfall.

Skyryder

Skyryder
20th July 2005, 19:58
So, say I speculate the sportsman is, I dunno say Sean Fitzpatrick, & it's not, or it is. I'm only blowing hot air. How can I be prosecuted for idol gossip. Surely this public forumn is no different than you'n me discussing it in a public place?

The difference is in the written word as against the spoken word.

Skyryder

Big Dave
20th July 2005, 19:58
By naming names you are doing one of two things: Breaking the suppression order (if the name is correct); or defaming an individual (if the name is incorrect). Both practices are illegal, the former punishable by fine or imprisonment; the latter by Court-determined damages. As mentioned earlier, be very careful what you post here.

Serious question - Do you think either would be likely?
'Anonymous' words on a discussion forum isn't exactly a tip off from 'deep throat'?

And if so do you think spankme would draw any heat?

KATWYN
20th July 2005, 20:04
be very careful what you post here.


One word...LIBEL. Apparently it applies to high profile people, polititions
etc...not so much the lay people like the rest of us. (I only know this
cos I asked our lawyer recently about a defamation issue)

So it is serious stuff like what Hitcher is saying

BTW just found this on another part of the net:

What is the definition of libel?
The classic definition is:
"a publication without justification or lawful excuse which is calculated to injure the reputation of another by exposing him to hatred, contempt or ridicule."
(Parke, B. in Parmiter v. Coupland (1840) GM&W 105 at 108)

So I spose does it come down to "is this website a publication??" maybe

TonyB
20th July 2005, 20:21
From what I've seen, the way name suppression is handled is all wrong. The media should NOT be allowed to give clues as to who it is- it encourages speculation. People automatically think of the most high profile person they now of, gossip circulates, and before long everyone "knows" who it is.

Case in point, a few years back the media published that a "high profile Chch businessman" was on trial for child molestation. Everyone "knew" that it was Rick Armstrong (probably because he did a lot of advertising for his car yards on the radio). My boss knew his mother and late father- the stress the rumours put on them was huge. It turned out to be someone else. The exact same thing happened AGAIN with the Graham Capell case- again, everyone "knew" that it was Rick Armstrong.

Has anyone stopped to think that this time the people everyone is implicating are just the first names the come to mind when you think of high profile Auckland sports people?

Skyryder
20th July 2005, 20:24
Serious question - Do you think either would be likely?
'Anonymous' words on a discussion forum isn't exactly a tip off from 'deep throat'?

And if so do you think spankme would draw any heat?

I just took a look at Str8J's original post. She states four names that a little birdie told her were 'implicated,' then in the next sentance states that these four names are supposed to be supressed.

I'm no legal expert on this but being implicated is not the same as being charged and on this I would say that the court order has not been breached. But it is the next sentance that gives me cause for concern, because she states clearly that she thought the names are supposed to be surpressed. This refers to the four people that STR8J named. By this STR8J has implied that the four names are indeed the four that have been charged and given a supression order against the publication of their identidies.

As I understand the law on this Spankme can not be charged with any breach of a court order. He may decide to remove the post or the thread but the fact remains that four names that may or may not be involved with the drug bust are now out in the public arena; this through no fault of his own.

Skyryder

jimbo600
20th July 2005, 20:33
I heard it was Helen Clark.

parsley
20th July 2005, 21:11
Lana Coc-Kroft? She was working out at the gym next to me a few weeks ago - damn fine figure on that woman. :buggerd:

Hitcher
20th July 2005, 21:15
So, say I speculate the sportsman is, I dunno say Sean Fitzpatrick, & it's not, or it is. I'm only blowing hot air. How can I be prosecuted for idol gossip. Surely this public forumn is no different than you'n me discussing it in a public place?
Totally. You're confusing private conversations with public conversations.

oldfart
20th July 2005, 21:29
Totally. You're confusing private conversations with public conversations.

wot say I was talking loudly, wouldn't that make it public :whistle:

White trash
20th July 2005, 21:32
WTF? I can't believe people are speculating on a public forum who they've "been told" is involved or who they believe maybe coulda been seen with someones sister once.

Give it a rest and let the justice system sort it out. These are actually peoples lives you're talking about and rumours start getting real nasty, real quick.

And for the record, I flatted with Josh and I'd be surprised. I'm much badder than he.

I wonder who here hasn't any skeletons in their closet they'd hate to see bandied 'round an internet forum?

MikeL
20th July 2005, 21:37
Interesting legal question here.
FWIW I don't think we have any longer the old distinction between libel [written defamation] and slander [oral defamation] - it's just defamation. I suspect that a lot of legal minds have expended a lot of mental energy on the precise definition of "publication", "publishing" or "making public", but my guess is that naming names on this forum would fairly easily fall within whatever definition is currently accepted.
What intrigues me is where the original information came from. Could it be that the "little birdie" was hatched on the Internet??
Interestingly the same 4 names were given to me not long ago by someone not entirely unrelated to me who got them from his boss. But where his boss got them from...
All it would take is one post on a popular forum and someone's speculation could end up as gospel...

scumdog
21st July 2005, 00:31
Notice a loud 'no comment' from moi, - and with good reason. Shush people, shush.

Big Dave
21st July 2005, 00:52
Notice a loud 'no comment' from moi, - and with good reason. Shush people, shush.

Thing is there's two conversations going on in this thread - some of us are just venting at the mess class a's and that vile P have made - I certainly didn't mean to imply it about anyone.

SixPackBack
21st July 2005, 06:24
Thing is there's two conversations going on in this thread - some of us are just venting at the mess class a's and that vile P have made - I certainly didn't mean to imply it about anyone.

Here you on the 'p' thing.....my brother in law died last december, a direct result of 'p' addiction
He was white collar, company manager, inteligent,kind and only 36 years old. He was also one of the best mates a man could have [i'm nearly crying].
He left 2 kids behind, and literally dozens of broken hearts.

If you have an addiction please get help!

Str8 Jacket
21st July 2005, 07:01
So I probably shouldn't have posted the names because as far as im concerned they are only "rumoured" to be implicated. What I was trying to do was get peoples thoughts on celebrities being caught up in this kind of, dare I say it -scandal. I for one was actually very surprised to hear some of these names, and won't believe it till it is made public.
So I apologise for starting this thread with the names included and realise I was wrong. Maybe this thread could be deleted? Who do I ask?

White trash
21st July 2005, 07:04
So I probably shouldn't have posted the names because as far as im concerned they are only "rumoured" to be implicated. What I was trying to do was get peoples thoughts on celebrities being caught up in this kind of, dare I say it -scandal. I for one was actually very surprised to hear some of these names, and won't believe it till it is made public.
So I apologise for starting this thread with the names included and realise I was wrong. Maybe this thread could be deleted? Who do I ask?

Just edit your original post mate, and delete the names.

Str8 Jacket
21st July 2005, 07:12
Just edit your original post mate, and delete the names.


Cheers WT, all edited and names removed. Once again I apologise to all those that I upset . . . sorry. :ride:

placidfemme
21st July 2005, 07:57
She reminded the media of suppression orders in place for the six accused and the four yet to be charged.

The case has sparked a frenzy of internet speculation about the people involved in the bust.

Entertainment site biggie.co.nz warned members against posting names because it was illegal.

Auckland businessman Aaron Bhatnagar closed down comment on his blogspot after names were published.

blah... I don't think people who are drug dealers and rapists and child abuser and the such deserve name suppression... do the crime do the time (even if that includes everyone hating you).

As mentioned earlier in the thread... if this was your average Jo Blog then his name would be in the paper... no doubt along with a picture... and his life would be ruined... but because these are so called celeb's they get special treatment... It's amazing what money can buy you these days

Hooks
21st July 2005, 08:32
Well now that is all sorted out I can reveal with relative safety who these people are !!

The Head man is the Dingo from Ayres rock ...
The TV personality is .... SpongeBob .. (Sorry BL it's true)
& the two sortsmen are in fact .... Charisma and Ready Teddy ... Both have been in trouble over drugs before and Charisma is still on the Tea foundations Coffee only program for the hopelessly sodden !!

There that should end all the speculation and bull !! .....

And yes it has to said .... I got it straight from the horses mouth !!! :rofl:

MikeL
21st July 2005, 08:58
blah... I don't think people who are drug dealers and rapists and child abuser and the such deserve name suppression... do the crime do the time (even if that includes everyone hating you).


Hang on...
These people have been charged, not convicted. Put the word "alleged" in front of those nouns by which you refer to them, and remember that mistakes can occur, the police sometimes falling short of adequacy let alone perfection, and then see if you still think what you have suggested is fair.

Kickaha
21st July 2005, 09:01
Hang on...
These people have been charged, not convicted. Put the word "alleged" in front of those nouns by which you refer to them, and remember that mistakes can occur, the police sometimes falling short of adequacy let alone perfection, and then see if you still think what you have suggested is fair.


I personally think that automatic name supression should apply until after you are convicted, it seems as soon as most people seen your name in print they assume guilt

idb
21st July 2005, 09:34
I personally think that automatic name supression should apply until after you are convicted, it seems as soon as most people seen your name in print they assume guilt
I absolutely agree with that.
Surely publishing the name of someone charged with a crime is no different to starting a rumour.
The only reason I can see for it is if the trial is going to be prolonged and speculation on the person's identity is likely to cause harm to others.

Krayy
21st July 2005, 09:34
. . . . I wonder who they are . . .
I hope one of them's Carlos Spencer. Serve him right for screwing up Auckland Rugby and by extension, the ABs. Tosser.

vifferman
21st July 2005, 09:40
Lana Coc-Kroft? She was working out at the gym next to me a few weeks ago - damn fine figure on that woman. :buggerd:
Shame about the head. And the fact she can't pronounce (or spell) her surname properly. :whistle:

Anyway - you can end all the idle speculation, peoples.
I was me. I was the four/five celebrities involved / implicated.
I done it. :yes:

SimJen
21st July 2005, 09:42
i heard it was spelled:

Lama Cockrot

ManDownUnder
21st July 2005, 09:45
Here you on the 'p' thing.....my brother in law died last december, a direct result of 'p' addiction
He was white collar, company manager, inteligent,kind and only 36 years old. He was also one of the best mates a man could have [i'm nearly crying].
He left 2 kids behind, and literally dozens of broken hearts.

If you have an addiction please get help!

Now that's a story that's worth hearing. Cheers chap... I can't relate but can imagine it's not nice...

Damned class A shit is beyond reason - you use the shit, you're a bloody idiot... you sell the shit - you're an arsehole (oh and a bloody idiot)

ManDownUnder
21st July 2005, 10:23
Shame about the head. And the fact she can't pronounce (or spell) her surname properly. :whistle:

Anyway - you can end all the idle speculation, peoples.
I was me. I was the four/five celebrities involved / implicated.
I done it. :yes:

So did you sell it to yourself then? And was it for a good profit? :nono:

If it it was no good, at least you know where to find the bastard that sold it to you!

Wolf
21st July 2005, 10:34
Simple rationale behind it really - celebrities are idols, they are this worlds role models who are invited into our homes through the idiot box, computer, etc to entertain us, and many a child/adult is influenced by them. When they get involved in unlawful activity they are breaching any trust that society has put in them. That is a big no-no! :nono:
If you're going to be famous, be a famous author.

JK Rowling, Terry Pratchett, Larry Niven - all loved by millions, but they don't get paparazzi chasing them all over the show or "So who's Terry Fucking this week?" write-ups in Women's Day or New Idea.

Aside from Terry P, most authors would not be recognised outside their fan base so it's pointless snapping pictures of them.

For some reason, tv/film/sports stars are considered fair game but authors are generally left alone - they have to have allegations of child molestation against them before the public at large is made aware of it - and even then, more has been published about Brad Pitt's sex life than about Arthur C. Clarke's alleged dalliances.

So the trick to fame is choosing the right field - become an author, write an award winning book, write the screenplay of it yourself, rake in the dough and the adoration of your fans - and rest assured it'll be the poor bastard who stars in the movie that'll be chased up the street by rabid wastes of oxygen wielding cameras.

vifferman
21st July 2005, 10:40
If you're going to be famous, be a famous author.
Well, that was the plan - to be an author, whether famous or not.
That was before 6 years of mindless drudgery in CubicleHell rotted my brain and f$%&ed me over. Now I'm reduced to writing mindless drivel on KiwiBiker. :confused:
About the only time I can write anything interesting is in the fleeting minutes when I feel dangerously suicidally depressed and have extravagantly hilarious ideas. :weird:

Sad, innit? :whocares:

Poor, poor me... :Pokey:

(That's me poking myself with a stick)

Wolf
21st July 2005, 11:17
As far as name suppression goes, I am totally for it whilst the person is undergoing trial - "innocent until proven guilty" and a' that. All people charged with a crime and awaiting trial for it should have automatic name suppression, no need to apply for it.

Once jury of peers as decided the person is guilty beyond reasonable doubt, all name suppression should be instantly lifted. There should not be an option under NZ law to allow continuance of the suppression once the person has been found guilty.

Name suppression should be there to protect those who are assumed innocent until proven otherwise, not to protect those who have already been proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt - "criminals" by definition.

Also, news reporters should learn to drop "alleged" and other such qualifiers after the guilty verdict has been handed down - there is nothing so stupid as "Mr Jones was found guilty of murder in the high court yesterday, he allegedly killed his wife of sixteen years" - Helllooooo! According to a jury of his peers, after examination of the evidence, he did kill his wife. It's only "alleged" when they still have not weighed the evidence.

The way our court system works needs a revamp - people still get "trial by media" as their name (or speculations of names) get bandied about while it is still only alleged that they committed the crime, others get to rape children and get their name suppressed even after they've been found guilty so they can move into your neighbourhood just down the road from your kids' school.

Simple: presumed innocent, you have the right to full name suppression; found guilty, you have given up that right.

ManDownUnder
21st July 2005, 11:48
Name suppression should be there to protect those who are assumed innocent until proven otherwise, not to protect those who have already been proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt - "criminals" by definition.

- snip -

Simple: presumed innocent, you have the right to full name suppression; found guilty, you have given up that right.

Yeah I hear ya - and agree if the person doing the crime is the only person affected. Problems can happen if the family or collegues of said criminal get tarred with the same brush and suffer because of their "involvement" despite the fact they actually had nought to do with it.

MDU

_Gina_
21st July 2005, 12:35
That was before 6 years of mindless drudgery in CubicleHell rotted my brain and f$%&ed me over. Now I'm reduced to writing mindless drivel on KiwiBiker. :confused:
About the only time I can write anything interesting is in the fleeting minutes when I feel dangerously suicidally depressed and have extravagantly hilarious ideas. :weird:

Sad, innit? :whocares:

Poor, poor me... :Pokey:

(That's me poking myself with a stick)

I feel your pain :yes:

crashe
21st July 2005, 13:30
I heard on the TV news this morning, that one of the two ex-sport stars isnt in too much of a hurry to come back to New Zealand and talk to the police about this case...

So this person may now live overseas for a very long time....

MSTRS
21st July 2005, 13:37
I heard on the TV news this morning, that one of the two ex-sport stars isnt in too much of a hurry to come back to New Zealand and talk to the police about this case...

So this person may now live overseas for a very long time....
Still could be anyone. EG Peter Snell. What's the point of speculating anyway? Haven't you got lives of your own? :whistle:

SPORK
21st July 2005, 13:47
Fuck another supplier out of business, where the fuck am I going to get cheap shit if the suppliers are getting locked up. anyone got any cheap drugs I like most stuff but P is my Fav good mind setting shit for riding fast !!!!!
FUCKEN EH !!!!!!
Nice try.

Who's alter ego is this? I've lost track of them all.

vifferman
21st July 2005, 13:58
Nice try.

Who's alter ego is this? I've lost track of them all.
It's not mine. I've given up on GoatFood and farQ2.
Although I'm prepared to bring GoatFood back by request.

What pisses me off, is although I don't usually give out negative rep, I was interested to see how many red boxes he/she/it could get, but there's no provision for it for some reason.

crashe
21st July 2005, 14:10
Still could be anyone. EG Peter Snell. What's the point of speculating anyway? Haven't you got lives of your own? :whistle:

I havent speculated as to who they are.... and I couldnt care less...
If they did the crime then they do the time... :whistle:

Wolf
21st July 2005, 14:31
The Waikato Slimes has an article in which famous sports people - Colin meads and Co are calling for the name suppression to be lifted as the speculation is causing damage to innocent people in thier community.

A sure sign that the journos who were so quick to hint at the identities should be taken into a back alley and kicked in the privates. No, I retract that - they should be kicked in the privates, publicly.

If a person gets name suppression, the journos should not be able to release any details at all that are likely to cause speculation and call discredit upon innocent people. By saying "2 sports stars and a female tv celebrity", they have opened up all sports stars and all female tv presenters to a lot of FLAK and speculation.

Dead wrong. Name suppression is supposed to protect innocent people, not make them the subject of speculation. Suppression should cover jobs as well.

Journos are so bloody hungry for sensationalism and "you heard it here first" they often fail to stop and think about what damage partial information and speculation can do.

I think full written and published apologies to all innocent celebrities who have been speculated against should be made by the various journos and their agencies - after the name suppression has been lifted on those found guilty.

If I were a sports star drawing shit and speculation such as this, I'd want the pricks responsible for rarking up the public to apologise.

I hope they find all the parties guilty in this - imagine the mess if one was acquitted. They'd still be allowed name suppression and there would still be people running around speculating about who they were and suspecting they "were lucky to get off". Innocent people would still be suspected. Only the conviction of all parties and the release of their names can clear the innocent targets of speculation of "guilt" in the public's collective eye.

Fart
21st July 2005, 14:50
Interesting to see the share price for charlies dropped 20c today

The reason for the price drop is the result of investors taking profit from the 30 million shares placed at 10 cents. Now trading at 12 cents.

MrMelon
21st July 2005, 14:52
Well now that is all sorted out I can reveal with relative safety who these people are !!

The Head man is the Dingo from Ayres rock ...
The TV personality is .... SpongeBob .. (Sorry BL it's true)
& the two sortsmen are in fact .... Charisma and Ready Teddy ... Both have been in trouble over drugs before and Charisma is still on the Tea foundations Coffee only program for the hopelessly sodden !!

There that should end all the speculation and bull !! .....

And yes it has to said .... I got it straight from the horses mouth !!! :rofl:
Well it looks like Spongebob's been snapped fair and square.. I've got a funny feeling Towelie might be implicated in this fiasco too.

_Gina_
21st July 2005, 16:06
I can't believe how much speculation there is on this.....I work for a company that employs around 150 ppl and the doctored emails and 'look who's involved' emails are coming thick and fast......

most of the info apears to be leaking from places like TVNZ & Radio Stations....

onearmedbandit
21st July 2005, 16:14
Not justifying it, and nor am I interested in speculating about who it is or isn't, but it is human nature to be curious. That will never change.

MrMelon
21st July 2005, 16:39
New TV2 Season..

5.30 Gram of Two Halves

6.00 Snorts Cafe brought to you by High-Undai

7.00 Ready To Roll Up

7.30 Ecstasy Island....Alcatraz

8.30 Smack Down

9.00 Whose Line is it anyway

9.30 Snorting with the Stars

10.00 Charlies Angels

11.00 P-Head Rescue

placidfemme
21st July 2005, 16:45
New TV2 Season..

5.30 Gram of Two Halves

6.00 Snorts Cafe brought to you by High-Undai

7.00 Ready To Roll Up

7.30 Ecstasy Island....Alcatraz

8.30 Smack Down

9.00 Whose Line is it anyway

9.30 Snorting with the Stars

10.00 Charlies Angels

11.00 P-Head Rescue

LMAO :rofl:

Awesome :Punk:

Wolf
21st July 2005, 16:51
10.00 Charlies Angels

Shouldn't that be Charlie's Angel Dust? :devil2:

Great piss-take, MrM

mikey
21st July 2005, 17:15
if it was me somehwo got court (not likely)
i wouldn be givenm fucking name suppression. fucking special treatment for celebrities. probably get off with a year in jail an then onto educating young kids or some shit.

its not fair an never will be so who gives a fuck

IT WAS CHARLIE BOY. An RIDGE IS ABOUT TO BE ARRESTED TO.

WINJA
21st July 2005, 17:26
guys n gals --possibly being paranoid here but this is a public forum --covered by the same laws as any other media--radio/tv etc
Thiose people have name supression and the fine to the forum might be pretty huge
sorry if Im bein paranoid
SHUT UP FROSTY OR ILL RUN YOU OVER

El Dopa
21st July 2005, 19:24
And if so do you think spankme would draw any heat?

Yes, very possibly. I very, very, strongly recommend that the mods remove all names from this thread, speculative or otherwise, and keep a close eye on this thread and all the others so the names don't get posted again here or elsewhere. You'll probably want to remove the amusing picture as well.

I don't want to come across as the bigest wowser on the planet, and yes, we all know who the main suspects are, but a judge could quite easily take a very dim view of it being posted on a public forum like this and decide to grant an interim injunction against the whole of KB. Several other NZ sites have already taken similar steps.

So, the choice is: do you want the site shut down, even if only temporarily, or do you want to indulge in idle speculation, and run the risk?

FROSTY
21st July 2005, 19:43
what would be a fantastic idea--that the media would NEVER go for is naming media personalities that werent implicated

_Gina_
21st July 2005, 20:00
if it was me somehwo got court (not likely)
i wouldn be givenm fucking name suppression. fucking special treatment for celebrities. probably get off with a year in jail an then onto educating young kids or some shit.

its not fair an never will be so who gives a fuck

IT WAS CHARLIE BOY. An RIDGE IS ABOUT TO BE ARRESTED TO.

bollox

you is wrong

What?
22nd July 2005, 06:45
bollox

you is wrong
So very, very wrong...
("Yes", I do know who the accused are, and "No", I ain't saying who they are or how I know)

placidfemme
22nd July 2005, 07:55
Who watched Campbell last night?

Wasn't that biggest waste of fucking time ever...

Campbell: Lets go ask people opinions on the street

Campbell: Who do you think the celebs are?

Public: I think BLEEEEEEEP BLEEEEEEEPPPPPPP BLEEEEEPPPPPPP so yeah and BLEEEEEEEPPPPP

What a waste of fuckign time.... what was the point of that? Did he wake up yesterday and think "oh well nothing better to do then interview people who we can't actually put on air for legal reasons so we'll just bleep them out...

*thought that was totally stupid... annoyed me so much I changed channel*

Lou Girardin
22nd July 2005, 08:14
I wonder if the retards naming names on here will apologise in person to anyone they've named wrongly?

placidfemme
22nd July 2005, 08:15
I wonder if the retards naming names on here will apologise in person to anyone they've named wrongly?

lol would be a good excuse to meet your sporting hero's if you did that... but then they'd hate you lol

Wolf
22nd July 2005, 08:47
lol would be a good excuse to meet your sporting hero's if you did that... but then they'd hate you lol
Surely, if one were maligning a sport star, said star would not be their hero - instead, someone in the sports community they don't like, for whatever reason. So they'd be meeting someone they don't like who pretty soon will have reason not to like them either.

Sniper
22nd July 2005, 09:02
The funny thing is I know for a fact who they are.

Lou Girardin
22nd July 2005, 09:36
lol would be a good excuse to meet your sporting hero's if you did that... but then they'd hate you lol

Or give a well deserved smacking.

onearmedbandit
22nd July 2005, 09:50
The funny thing is I know for a fact who they are.

What's so funny about that???

skidz
22nd July 2005, 10:11
Who gives a shit about who it is? As long as they get all that chemical shit off the street and out of everybodys reach, this country will be a better place. What's wrong with a bit of good old home grown natural weed? All I'm saying, is lets get those big fish that make the money off the little fish. As normal, they probly don't use the shit, but know how to make big money.

v.ros`
22nd July 2005, 14:28
lol got sent this via email - not sure if its already posted in here.........

and NO, i am not accusing anyone of anything. Just trying to provide some Kbers with humour :)

HDTboy
22nd July 2005, 20:41
You must be in the same e-mail circles as me

Marknz
22nd July 2005, 20:47
The funny thing is I know for a fact who they are.

Guess we'll find out in good time then won't we

ManDownUnder
25th July 2005, 11:34
When does the supression order actually lift?
MDU

crashe
25th July 2005, 12:04
When does the supression order actually lift?
MDU

Dunno...

But since one of them aint in no hurry to come back to NZ to chat to the police.. it could be a very long time to figure who one of them is. hehehe.

a lot are claiming it aint them....
funny that when one or two are in that close knit circle of friends...
and one is involved... they dont want to ruin their career....
like Helloooooooo!
Their career is over.... deal with it and be mere mortals like the rest of us... hehehehe.

Big Dave
25th July 2005, 12:19
be mere mortals like the rest of us...

You've not met my ego then?

v.ros`
25th July 2005, 12:46
You must be in the same e-mail circles as me

HDT.. seems you are correct..
as this is the second time it happened - first was the soccer quotes..

mind asking u what company u work for: maybe we in the same floor :blah:

Biff
26th July 2005, 13:24
Be careful what you repeat. Even if the names listed above are true, these people's identities are covered by a Court suppression order. Breaching said order can result in going directly to jail, not passing go and not collecting $200...

Not true according to a legal boffin type of on the tele' the other night. The interweb, in particular forums (yep - they used this very example) are definitely not covered by the suppression order. This is due to the fact that it is considered a group of people 'chatting', and as such to censor a forum or chat room, or even neighbours chatting over a garden fence would require an overhaul of the legal system in order to make it illegal for anyone to talk of the case in its entirety. And this is not possible due to our right to basic freedom of speech that exists in this country.

Sniper
26th July 2005, 13:35
Guess we'll find out in good time then won't we

Nope, suppression order says I cant say till its lifted, Oh yea BTW it was Beeep beeep beep beep, Blooop bloop beep

:rofl:

ManDownUnder
26th July 2005, 13:38
Nope, suppression order says I cant say till its lifted, Oh yea BTW it was Beeep beeep beep beep, Blooop bloop beep

:rofl:

gotcha.....

That Guy
28th July 2005, 08:43
Not true according to a legal boffin type of on the tele' the other night. The interweb, in particular forums (yep - they used this very example) are definitely not covered by the suppression order. This is due to the fact that it is considered a group of people 'chatting', and as such to censor a forum or chat room, or even neighbours chatting over a garden fence would require an overhaul of the legal system in order to make it illegal for anyone to talk of the case in its entirety. And this is not possible due to our right to basic freedom of speech that exists in this country.

That's the information I have too on this situation; I think we can name whoever we like. Anyway; who the hell really cares???

Biff
28th July 2005, 12:22
Anyway; who the hell really cares???

Me. Perhaps they can do me a good deal. :whistle:

Kickaha
28th July 2005, 18:24
That's the information I have too on this situation; I think we can name whoever we like. Anyway; who the hell really cares???


Well perhaps if it was your name up there you might