Race numbers at Nationals

[Deano]

Nevermind the size and font. There might be 2 #9's at the Nationals in the same class but one club doesn't think it is a big deal. I got a very condecending e-mail from them who said to take it up with MNZ.

How will commentators or spectators know who is who ? (This is my only beef but the club doesn't think its an issue.)

Yes - I've raised this with MNZ and they don't want to interfere, despite their own rules not being complied with.

Hopefully the rider (not the real #9) will see sense and change his number. FFS - his MNZ number from 2011 Nationals is less anyway.

Pfft - only in NZ.

[Mental Trousers]

Well that's just plain stupid. The numbers 1-9 inclusive are reserved for those who earn them. None of them are reserved.

[Rodger96]

Hey dude before you start making a shit fite about bugger all....why dont you contact robbie stokes and talk to him no point getting shitty at Clubs and officals running it there not in charge of numbers! there their to make the day happen for you to ride!.

[Deano]

Hey dude before you start making a shit fite about bugger all....why dont you contact robbie stokes and talk to him no point getting shitty at Clubs and officals running it there not in charge of numbers! there their to make the day happen for you to ride!.

Hi Rodger,

two officials from other clubs have already said they will take this up with Robbie. But if you have a contact number for him I'll be glad to give him a call.

This is nothing against him, but the attitude of another club offical who says it is no big deal having 2 bikes in the same class with the same numbers.

Does that seem sensible to you, given the push recently to make riders numbers more visible and easily identified ? Doesn't it seem really dumb to have two bikes in the same class with the same numbers ? It's a pretty simple question mate.

If I hadn't received such a condescending e-mail from the official concerned I would not be posting this.

Why was I bumped fromm # 9 and it given to Robbie instead ? That indicates that the clubs do in fact have control over race numbers, so I'm sorry but you are incorrect.

I'm paying good money to enter and get myself all the way down south - I expect a little in return eh.

Fairs fair.

And again - if I hadn't received such a condescending e-mail from the club official concerned you wouldn't be reading this.

[Crasherfromwayback]

If they say it's ok to have two # 9's out there so be it. Just make sure you tell the other cunt if you whip his arse, he's gotta run 999 next year.

[Billy]

Hi Rodger,

two officials from other clubs have already said they will take this up with Robbie. But if you have a contact number for him I'll be glad to give him a call.

This is nothing against him, but the attitude of another club offical who says it is no big deal having 2 bikes in the same class with the same numbers.

Does that seem sensible to you, given the push recently to make riders numbers more visible and easily identified ? Doesn't it seem really dumb to have two bikes in the same class with the same numbers ? It's a pretty simple question mate.

If I hadn't received such a condescending e-mail from the official concerned I would not be posting this.

Why was I bumped fromm # 9 and it given to Robbie instead ? That indicates that the clubs do in fact have control over race numbers, so I'm sorry but you are incorrect.

I'm paying good money to enter and get myself all the way down south - I expect a little in return eh.

Fairs fair.

And again - if I hadn't received such a condescending e-mail from the club official concerned you wouldn't be reading this.

Absolutely agree with you Deano,You have earned the right to run number 9 for the 2012 season and its NOT up to some club official to think he/she can over rule MNZ,Send me a copy of that email to acrfibreglass@actrix.co.nz and I'll have it put right immediately

[jellywrestler]

Nevermind the size and font. There might be 2 #9's at the Nationals in the same class but one club doesn't think it is a big deal. I got a very condecending e-mail from them who said to take it up with MNZ.


Look at the positive side f it, you've gone to the trouble of printing T-Shirts with the number nine on then for your kids who will be at the nationals.
Just push them into the other number nines pits and get them to baby sit for the day, they'll change their numbers real quick i'm thinking!

[SWERVE]

I thought that 1-10 werent issued..... for regular numbers and only available for respective places in that class.
IMHO Robbie should run number 2 and deano number 9........ thats why we are 10...not 30.
Bet he would run 1 if he earned it.

[Mental Trousers]

Change your number to #2 Deano :niceone:

[White trash]

Hey dude before you start making a shit fite about bugger all....why dont you contact robbie stokes and talk to him no point getting shitty at Clubs and officals running it there not in charge of numbers! there their to make the day happen for you to ride!.

No they're not. They're there to make the day happen.

Not reply in a frankly condescending and unprofessional manner to a competitors request for assistance and clarification. You know what fucks me off? Club officials that jump up and down and call things "my event" and make claims like "without me this event wouldn't take place"....

Guess what fuckers, without competitors, the event doesn't exist either. They're supporting YOUR club, not vice versa. Do the fucking job you put your hand up to do and do it properly.

[Deano]

20 minutes after this thread started and I get a call from the official concerned and things seem on their way to being sorted out. At least it prompted some positive discussion eh.

At the end of the day, I just want to be able to run the number allocated to me, without any confusion to spectators.

I don't think that is too much to ask. I didn't ask for any bullshit or controversy, but I won't lie down when something is not right either.

I'll be running number 1 next year anyway !!

[CHOPPA]

Its amazing how it works.... I get far better results complaining on here and facebook

[Billy]

No they're not. They're there to make the day happen.

Not reply in a frankly condescending and unprofessional manner to a competitors request for assistance and clarification. You know what fucks me off? Club officials that jump up and down and call things "my event" and make claims like "without me this event wouldn't take place"....

Guess what fuckers, without competitors, the event doesn't exist either. They're supporting YOUR club, not vice versa. Do the fucking job you put your hand up to do and do it properly.

Bloody well said Jimmy,Sure you didnt get Sue to type that for you LOL!

[Billy]

Its amazing how it works.... I get far better results complaining on here and facebook

Shouldnt be that way Sloan,Next time email or ring me,I'll make sure something gets done if a member is having problems,

On another note,Thanks for putting Colin Smith onto me the other day,Hopefully we can put him to good use.

[RDjase]

Is the no 3 digit rule only for national Classes? and Ok of support classes?

[Deano]

Is the no 3 digit rule only for national Classes? and Ok of support classes?

Not sure mate but that is the main reason I changed from #180. To comply.

[budda]

Yes - I've raised this with MNZ and they don't want to interfere, despite their own rules not being complied with.

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I havent heard from you Deano - who did you contact ?

[jellywrestler]

Hey Deano, maybe the 'other' guys from Gore and only got that amount of fingers eh?
at the end of the day the whole first ten numbers thing is an effort to make the sport more profeesional and so the public can work a couple of things out themselves so lets try and make it work, folks.
spyda

[Deano]

All sorted !!

Should never have been an issue in the first place though :facepalm:

At least it seems to have prompted better communication between MNZ and clubs regarding race number allocations.

[Billy]

All sorted !!

Should never have been an issue in the first place though :facepalm:

At least it seems to have prompted better communication between MNZ and clubs regarding race number allocations.

Awesome!!! So next year will we be sorting out No 1 for ya????

Regarding the communication between MNZ and the clubs,We shouldnt have too contact them on a matter like this,They have the same access to the rules everybody else does and if theyre organising a meeting run under an MNZ permit then those are the rules they need to know and abide by,We have enough to do without following them around making sure they do the job properly!!!!

If youve got a problem or a question dont hesitate too contact somebody from the relevant commission and we'll sort asap.

[Deano]

Awesome!!! So next year will we be sorting out No 1 for ya????

Regarding the communication between MNZ and the clubs,We shouldnt have too contact them on a matter like this,They have the same access to the rules everybody else does and if theyre organising a meeting run under an MNZ permit then those are the rules they need to know and abide by,We have enough to do without following them around making sure they do the job properly!!!!

If youve got a problem or a question dont hesitate too contact somebody from the relevant commission and we'll sort asap.

Appreciate your support Billy.

Yeah I'm gunning for number 1 alright !!

Do you have a confirmed entry list (or know where I can access one ) for the first round so I can see who I am up against ?

I'm picking Nick Southerwood and Robbie Stokes to be up with the front runners.

[Billy]

Appreciate your support Billy.

Yeah I'm gunning for number 1 alright !!

Do you have a confirmed entry list (or know where I can access one ) for the first round so I can see who I am up against ?

I'm picking Nick Southerwood and Robbie Stokes to be up with the front runners.

No I dont sorry,Only numbers entered,Try Ian at NZSBK Hes the series co ordinator

[jellywrestler]

Guess what fuckers, without competitors, the event doesn't exist either. They're supporting YOUR club, not vice versa. Do the fucking job you put your hand up to do and do it properly.
Taken a double dose of arrogant pills that day Jimmy? Hope there's some good excuse as that's just bad sportsmanship that statement.
These people are volunteers, doing it in their own time and doing the best that they can, true they can make mistakes but a man who never made mistakes is a man who never did anything, after all...
As for the day if i'm commentating one will be number nine and the other will have and upside down six on their bike, just depends on who bribes me the best really.

[p.dath]

Nevermind the size and font. There might be 2 #9's at the Nationals in the same class but one club doesn't think it is a big deal. I got a very condecending e-mail from them who said to take it up with MNZ.

Thinking laterally, how do you feel about being 9a? Just add an extra letter ...

[Deano]

Thinking laterally, how do you feel about being 9a? Just add an extra letter ...

No need to think laterally thanks. Abiding by the rules is the way to go.

No need to amend my kids shirts then either.

Anyway - all sorted now.

[FROSTY]

Without looking to stir the pot up here. What actually is the rule regarding race numbers PERIOD?
I was -perhaps incorrectly under the impression that if you recieve an MNZ issued race number for a race class then that number is yours in that class for the season. Regardless of the location nation wide or the club organising the event
In essence any dispute regarding numbers is to be resolved by refering back to the simple question "who has been issued that number by MNZ?"
Am I incorrect in believing that this is the case?

[White trash]

Taken a double dose of arrogant pills that day Jimmy? Hope there's some good excuse as that's just bad sportsmanship that statement.
These people are volunteers, doing it in their own time and doing the best that they can, true they can make mistakes but a man who never made mistakes is a man who never did anything, after all...

Nah mate, just double Heinekin dose. The delivery was possibly a little blunt, and for that I apologise but stand by the underlying message.

For example, is a volunteer perfectly justified in telling a competitor to essentially piss off, he's got bigger problems than the competitors query to deal with, just because he's a volunteer?

[SWERVE]

Wrong thread i know.................BUT
I started life as a Marshall at 15.....(yes..1981.......old f@*KER) i was trained / then re-embirshed (expenses) per meeting.
I then became crew / racer / crew / racer / team financier...etc.......poor.
Point is............. racing in NZ is probebly some of cheapest in the world......... dont start the economy thing! Motorsport is expensive..wherever you live.
IMHO entries should be raised (and it wouldnt be much) to allow proper training and payment of raceday staff ( yes most do it for the "love" but lives are at risk )
I would be more than happy to pay an increase in entries to have qualified marshalls/staff on board on all racedays (clerk of course/race directoir/cheif steward) are all MNZ accredited so why not flag point crews.
NO dis-respect for current helpers as YOU are the "NUTS" and i applaud you ALL,
Rant over.......... feel free to move this post (moderators) if its a little off topic.

[SWERVE]

I'll be running number 1 next year anyway !![/QUOTE]


Like ya positive thinking Deano...
Bryan Hil - Robbie Stokes - Camaron Moir - Ants Singer - to name some...... will be making it a well earned victory.

[budda]

Wrong thread i know.................BUT
I started life as a Marshall at 15.....(yes..1981.......old f@*KER) i was trained / then re-embirshed (expenses) per meeting.
I then became crew / racer / crew / racer / team financier...etc.......poor.
Point is............. racing in NZ is probebly some of cheapest in the world......... dont start the economy thing! Motorsport is expensive..wherever you live.
IMHO entries should be raised (and it wouldnt be much) to allow proper training and payment of raceday staff ( yes most do it for the "love" but lives are at risk )
I would be more than happy to pay an increase in entries to have qualified marshalls/staff on board on all racedays (clerk of course/race directoir/cheif steward) are all MNZ accredited so why not flag point crews.
NO dis-respect for current helpers as YOU are the "NUTS" and i applaud you ALL,
Rant over.......... feel free to move this post (moderators) if its a little off topic.

Merv - MNZ HAS a Flag Marshall training course: a lot have availed themselves of the opportunity, but as yet, not all.
The plan is for all Officials, be they Stewards, Clerk of Course, Flaggies etc etc to be singing from the same hymn book
Anyone interested in training should ask at their next Club meeting when the next Training session in their area will be held

Cheers
Buddha

[Deano]

Merv - MNZ HAS a Flag Marshall training course: a lot have availed themselves of the opportunity, but as yet, not all.
The plan is for all Officials, be they Stewards, Clerk of Course, Flaggies etc etc to be singing from the same hymn book
Anyone interested in training should ask at their next Club meeting when the next Training session in their area will be held

Cheers
Buddha

I'd be keen for this at some stage as I flag marshal for MotoTT. It would also be useful for my input with the Cliff Hanger Hill Climb.

[yungatart]

I'd be keen for this at some stage as I flag marshal for MotoTT. It would also be useful for my input with the Cliff Hanger Hill Climb.

Talk to someone at VMCC, the last training we attended was at one of the Winter series meetings.

Nigel's PMCC marshal crew are all qualified.

[Matt Bleck]

I see you can't choose your number now when you get your champion ship road race licence, does this mean that MNZ allocate a number to you for the nationals? or can we still run with our preferred one? anyone have a idea about how this will work.

[Fast Eddie]

I see you can't choose your number now when you get your champion ship road race licence, does this mean that MNZ allocate a number to you for the nationals? or can we still run with our preferred one? anyone have a idea about how this will work.

yea just noticed that too, ur ok if u already had a number for ur class, so I keep 55 for the old class.

but wanted to add a new one, and i emailed in and they said something like the first 60 numbers are locked and u gotta apply for them or something. I'm just emailing direct and asking for the number I want and see if I can have it..

[jellywrestler]

Well that's just plain stupid. The numbers 1-9 inclusive are reserved for those who earn them. None of them are reserved.

only for For Appendix’s C, F, H and I, this is pro twin so that rule doesn't cover that class, fuck knows why , there's absolutley no rhyme nor reason.