Whaling in NZ!

[willytheekid]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/6182773/Maori-hint-at-interest-in-whaling

:facepalm: Just can't believe this shit...not only do they want to look into whaling...they are also trying to justifie "the use of foreign charter vessels which use low-paid Asian labour to fish Maori quota".(you know...the shitty ones that keep sinking, or are tourturing crew members or not paying them at all...I believe "slave labour" sums it up)

...all in the name of profit!...my how the Iwi involved have "advanced" :facepalm:

heres hoping this dumb idea gets blocked...and those cheap shitty slave labour boats get kicked out of our waters.




Whales...Photograph them!...don't harpoon them!
http://noplan.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/whale-five.jpg

[nudemetalz]

Damn straight, Willy !!!!!!!

[Paul in NZ]

There is a lot of noise happening in the fishing industry at the moment. Some of it is similar to the kind of noise that was made around ACC a while back so I think we might see some changes coming up.

Frankly I think this particular initiative is just appalling. Its a real 'fuck you' to everyone else that demonstrates that these particular people should not be entrusted with anything of value.

Gareth Morgan has had a bit to say about all this fishing stuff of late - I don't agree with some of what he is saying but its a good read all the same.


3 articles - read in order as below.

http://www.gmi.co.nz/news/1295/our-oceans-cant-survive-fishing-madness.aspx

http://www.gmi.co.nz/news/1305/quotas-no-catch-all-solution-for-fishing.aspx

http://www.gmi.co.nz/news/1311/fishing-quota-needs-to-be-cast-wider.aspx

[SMOKEU]

Fuck you whale, and fuck you dolphin!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUbZJcdlcSc

[skippa1]

There is a lot of noise happening in the fishing industry at the moment. Some of it is similar to the kind of noise that was made around ACC a while back so I think we might see some changes coming up.

surely they are not going to put whale registrations up?????:eek5:

[steve_t]

It's crazy how things are bad... unless, of course there's a shitload of money to be made. I reminds me of the whole "You can't build your roads here because of the taniwha in the river... unless you pay the iwi several million dollars." :facepalm:

[Swoop]

surely they are not going to put whale registrations up?????:eek5:

Most definately. There will be a size rating system as well.
Have you seen the damage those buggers make when they crash?

[slofox]

I think we tell Te Ohu Kaimoana to fuck off...

[pzkpfw]

I blame Dave Dobbin.

[Brian d marge]

nom nom nom ..........

stephen

[Hitcher]

We eat cattle and sheep. Other cultures eat horses, cats and dogs. Whales are just another mammal. As long as they're not hunted to extinction, what's the difference?

[Pussy]

We eat cattle and sheep. Other cultures eat horses, cats and dogs. Whales are just another mammal. As long as they're not hunted to extinction, what's the difference?

I don't think I could eat a whole one....

[DrunkenMistake]

We eat cattle and sheep. Other cultures eat horses, cats and dogs. Whales are just another mammal. As long as they're not hunted to extinction, what's the difference?

I agree,
Might as well bitch about Tuna fishing.
http://www.3news.co.nz/Study-40-Mediterranean-fish-species-could-vanish/tabid/1160/articleID/207675/Default.aspx

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[98tls]

Why not,they have bleed the welfare system dry,Kentucky fried cant keep up and the prisons are full.By all means let them fuck up the rest of it.

[hayd3n]

make then fish the traditional way
hand built waka hand build fishing line hand made hooketc etc
then i say go for it!

[Bikemad]

We eat cattle and sheep. Other cultures eat horses, cats and dogs. Whales are just another mammal. As long as they're not hunted to extinction, what's the difference?

about 3.5 tonnes

[Edbear]

We eat cattle and sheep. Other cultures eat horses, cats and dogs. Whales are just another mammal. As long as they're not hunted to extinction, what's the difference?

How you gonna kill them humanely? Can't exactly tranquilise them first...

[Kickaha]

I don't think I could eat a whole one....

You look like you already have:whistle:

[Pussy]

You look like you already have:whistle:

Pot-kettle-black.... you little fat bastard! :p

[unstuck]

Has anyone asked the whales if they want saving.:wacko:

[Berries]

How you gonna kill them humanely? Can't exactly tranquilise them first...
Same as lobsters, throw them in a pan of boiling water.

[Teflon]

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[Paul in NZ]

We eat cattle and sheep. Other cultures eat horses, cats and dogs. Whales are just another mammal. As long as they're not hunted to extinction, what's the difference?

Using the same logic - why don't we eat other people? The answer is because its plain wrong to do so because at some point there is always a need to draw a line in the sand and make a stand.

The whales are kinda the poster children of the movement to preserve our marine environments and we like having them around living free. I understand other cultures feel differently but here in nz this is a moral touchstone.

[Oakie]

surely they are not going to put whale registrations up?????:eek5:

No. Registration stays the same but they do have to wear hi viz.

[SMOKEU]

How you gonna kill them humanely? Can't exactly tranquilise them first...

Like this? You may be surprised to find that most slaughter houses aren't exactly humane. THIS VIDEO IS EXTREMELY GRAPHIC SO DON'T WATCH IT IF YOU DON'T LIKE SEEING SICK SHIT. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_bZzxep87c

[Spyke]

I don't know how those workers sleep at night :oi-grr:

[Hitcher]

Like this? You may be surprised to find that most slaughter houses aren't exactly humane.

All licensed slaughterhouses in New Zealand are exceedingly humane. Dollars to donuts that video wasn't filmed anywhere near these parts. But people who haven't figured out that meat comes from dead animals could be surprised by the reality that death is involved.

[Oblivion]

Like this? You may be surprised to find that most slaughter houses aren't exactly humane. THIS VIDEO IS EXTREMELY GRAPHIC SO DON'T WATCH IT IF YOU DON'T LIKE SEEING SICK SHIT. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.



Urghhhh...

Couldn't even watch the first 30 seconds of that.....

[Laava]

I don't think I could eat a whole one....

Imagine how many chips you would need! Not to mention the tomato sauce!

[scumdog]

Like this? You may be surprised to find that most slaughter houses aren't exactly humane. THIS VIDEO IS EXTREMELY GRAPHIC SO DON'T WATCH IT IF YOU DON'T LIKE SEEING SICK SHIT. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.



Meh, use to see it every day...

In NZ they still use captive bolt stunning on cattle, on sheep it's electrical stunning - then their throats are cut so they bleed to death.

Before that there was no stunning - grab the sheep, tip it on its side, bend its neck around a post and slice - a good 'sticker' would cut right through in one swipe leaving the head attached by a piece of skin.

Now with stunning the head is left attached to the spinal column and the neck has to be broken later on - and I can tell you there ain't no 'wrist-pump' like the one you get after breaking 3,500 necks in a day..:yes::pinch:

BTW: once the blood-flow to the brain ceases the animal has in effect fainted - the majority of the 'struggling' is nerves, hell look at what a rabbit does when you head-shoot it!

[Pseudonym]

Save the whales, collect the set.

It’s not the whales or the humanity of how or why or even what we eat that concerns me with this.
It’s not the slaves that get abused and held hostage by the captains of the tubs that have netted every living thing in the waters further north.

While both do concern me, more the demise of the whales and fish stock than the humans to be frank, it is the selling off of the already abused Maori fishing quota to un-watched and un-regulated overseas trawlers.
Does the Iwi watch what they take from NZ waters?
I have my doubts…

And where is the money from all of this going?
The Maoris I know aren’t raking in the cash, and the ones I don’t know seem to be struggling along with the rest of us regardless of genetic ancestry.

If my mate from across the road has to toe the same line as the rest of us when he goes out in his boat, is it because his portion of the quota has been sold to some slave ship?
If so, where is his cut?

If they are worried that putting a sanctuary around the Kermadec Islands and that not using slave labour will cut into their profits then should they be trusted with what they have let alone anything else?
If the Iwi are Okay with commercial whaling what did they have planned for the beaches under the foreshore claim?

Certainly casts a shadow over the statement that “It will be for the best as we look after the land”

In a similar vane, where is the money from all the settlements, monster taming, fishing, broadcasting etc actually going?
It’s millions of dollars, tens and hundreds of millions over the years too.
Take a ride through some of the little coastal villages off the beaten track, they need it and are often predominately Maori, so where is their tribe’s assistance package?
It’s like our own small scale dictatorships, the top brass have the cash and to hell with the rest.

[pete376403]

The Round Table and the Brown Table - both have the same goals. To control the rest of us.

[ellipsis]

...as I may have mentioned before, if a bunch of serious people turned up with pointy sticks, we could frighten the whales and the englands and anyone else that wants to rape and pillage our villages and pretty women...err ...yea!...and what would be an undersized whale if we all wanted to catch one...

[98tls]

All licensed slaughterhouses in New Zealand are exceedingly humane. Dollars to donuts that video wasn't filmed anywhere near these parts. But people who haven't figured out that meat comes from dead animals could be surprised by the reality that death is involved.

Bullshit Hitch,spend an hour in the beef house at any freezing works in this country and you will walk away disgusted.Done plenty of hunting etc in my time and am certainly not squeamish but will never watch that shit again,ever.

[Mungatoke Mad]

We eat cattle and sheep. Other cultures eat horses, cats and dogs. Whales are just another mammal. As long as they're not hunted to extinction, what's the difference?We moved out of the cave a long time ago country's that go for the dog cat menu tend to have plundered all there resources & look for other country's to rape

[Bikemad]

me and my mates used to do a bit of sport whaling in our younger days if there were no hotties at the party.......................:sick:
but can safely say............i have never eaten whale fritters

[sugilite]

We eat cattle and sheep. Other cultures eat horses, cats and dogs. Whales are just another mammal. As long as they're not hunted to extinction, what's the difference?
Meh money is involved, so sustainability will take a poor 2nd place.

[Stirts]

me and my mates used to do a bit of sport whaling in our younger days if there were no hotties at the party.......................:sick:

So the saying goes....Shore Girls, a sure thing.

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[DMNTD]

So the saying goes....Shore Girls, a sure thing.

It wasn't a saying, it was a fact!
Actually isn't it a bit like 'dump girls like to hump'?

[Stirts]

It wasn't a saying, it was a fact!

And there I was thinking that you were a Rema's slapper!!


Actually isn't it a bit like 'dump girls like to hump'?

I plead the 5th!

[Maha]

So the saying goes....Shore Girls, a sure thing.



Give it a decent slap and ride the first wave in?

[Stirts]

Give it a decent slap and ride the first wave in?

Ride the guntlet!