Is there a 4 km/h tolerance this holiday season?

[steve_t]

I haven't seen or heard anything about a drop in tolerance this year. Has anyone? Or is this the year they leave it at 9km/h and see if there's more crashes?

[Scuba_Steve]

I haven't seen or heard anything about a drop in tolerance this year. Has anyone? Or is this the year they leave it at 9km/h and see if there's more crashes?

Nope the speed scam is 4km/h

"Police would be stopping anyone caught driving at more than 4km/h above the speed limit and would be taking drink-drive breath tests at all times of the day" - Paula Rose

Full propaganda here (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10774975)

[Drew]

I'm pretty sure the tolerance is always 4km/h, but they enforce it more seriously around holiday times. Go over it at your own peril.

[FJRider]

The descretion allowed is 4km/hr. However ... a sniffer will be shoved in your face if you are stopped. And expect a short wait while the vehicle details are given. Plus a "safety" check of the vehicle (that back tyre is a bit bald sir ... thats another $150 and 20 demerits ).

[insomnia01]

Slow drivers, following distance & speed are their key focus this festive season starting as of 6am this morning I think !!

[nodrog]

I thought the tolerance was 40 km/hr

[MaxCannon]

I got issued a $30 speed camera ticket on Labour Day for 5kph over the limit.
The funny thing was that I was coming back from Hampton Downs with a trailer attached so if I'd have been pulled over I would have been done for more.

I'd already spotted two cameras (both on downhill sections of the motorway) so the one that got me was well hidden.

Remember it's about road safety and not revenue. If you are speeding a ticket that arrives 3 weeks after the event will get you to slow down... (Coming up - we teach pigs to fly)

[bucket boy]

I thought the tolerance was 40 km/hr

Thats what stirts thinks.

[steve_t]

I'm pretty sure the tolerance is always 4km/h, but they enforce it more seriously around holiday times. Go over it at your own peril.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/opinion/news/article.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10730840

"Most practically, this sterner attitude led to the trial of a lower tolerance of speeding - down from 10km/h over legal limits to 4km/h - during holiday weekends."

[Gremlin]

4kph tolerance starts today, probably in the evening around 6pm? Ends on 4th January, probably around 6am or thereabouts. Was on the news last night.

[scumdog]

I don't care.

I'm not working!:2thumbsup

[FJRider]

I got issued a $30 speed camera ticket on Labour Day for 5kph over the limit.
The funny thing was that I was coming back from Hampton Downs with a trailer attached so if I'd have been pulled over I would have been done for more.

I'd already spotted two cameras (both on downhill sections of the motorway) so the one that got me was well hidden.

Remember it's about road safety and not revenue. If you are speeding a ticket that arrives 3 weeks after the event will get you to slow down... (Coming up - we teach pigs to fly)

Had you got pulled over ... demerits would also be attached.

However ... if you were "in the flow of traffic" that was travelling at 105 kms/hr ... even with a trailer ... it would have been unlikely for you to be stopped.

As a tax-payer of this country ... thank-you for your kind donation ...

[slofox]

I thought the tolerance was 40 km/hr

It is - for keeping your bike that is...more than +40k and you're walking for a month I think it is....

[FJRider]

It is - for keeping your bike that is...more than +40k and you're walking for a month I think it is....

28 days ... and the walking starts immediately ... unless the kind-hearted cop allows (in his descretionary powers) you to ride the bike directly home.

The courts however may extend this walk ... a few more months ...

[bsasuper]

I love it when they start the 4km/hr over scam, I find a trap then loop around and hold traffic up doing 40km/hr under the limit, at first the traffic behind me hate me, but once through the trap and I do the limit they are gratefull:lol: Then when I'm bored with that trap, I drive through with my radar zapper, and job done.

[scumdog]

I find a trap then loop around and hold traffic up doing 40km/hr under the limit, at first the traffic behind me hate me,

Making them follow you at 10km/hr must raise their blood pressure...and the ones that don't notice the 'trap' will hate you forever.

Still, a man has to have a hobby eh...;)

[bsasuper]

Making them follow you at 10km/hr must raise their blood pressure...and the ones that don't notice the 'trap' will hate you forever.

Still, a man has to have a hobby eh...;)

Nah, just the ones who overtake and them have to slam on the brakes

[Indiana_Jones]

100kph = safe

105kph = death for yourself and everyone you've ever loved.

-Indy

[steve_t]

4kph tolerance starts today, probably in the evening around 6pm? Ends on 4th January, probably around 6am or thereabouts. Was on the news last night.

There ya go. Cheers man :drinkup:

[Pseudonym]

Won’t affect me too much as I don’t speed, I find the rough roads can knock my beer out of the cup holder…

[pete376403]

5 already. The 4km tolerance is working really well. Wonder what the next good idea will be?

[Madness]

5 already. The 4km tolerance is working really well. Wonder what the next good idea will be?

Six. (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6188468/Double-fatality-brings-road-toll-to-six) Try to keep up eh?

[pete376403]

Jesus wept. No doubt Paula Roses resignation will be on the table. (yeah right)

[FJRider]

5 already. The 4km tolerance is working really well. Wonder what the next good idea will be?

The tolerances are only applied if you get caught ... if you kill yourself (or somebody else) prior to that ... all good ... eh ???

[scumdog]

Jesus wept. No doubt Paula Roses resignation will be on the table. (yeah right)

No.

They'll take everybodys licence off them and bull-doze up every metre of road in NZ into oblivion.

That might lower the road toll - and nobody will get a speeding ticket ever again.

A win-win eh!:2thumbsup

[rastuscat]

Glad for the 4 kmh tolerance. Got sick of sticking to the speed limit.

[steve_t]

Looks like the road toll is out of control. I guess it's about time they acknowledged that the reduction of the tolerance to 4km/h isn't effective.
However, in looking for something else that might work, this is well welcomed

NZ Herald - Slow drivers also on police radar (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/news/article.cfm?c_id=9&objectid=10775034)

[carver]

i have not me a cop yet that enforces the "holiday speed limit rules"

[pete376403]

Looks like the road toll is out of control. I guess it's about time they acknowledged that the reduction of the tolerance to 4km/h isn't effective.
However, in looking for something else that might work, this is well welcomed

NZ Herald - Slow drivers also on police radar (http://www.nzherald.co.nz/motoring/news/article.cfm?c_id=9&objectid=10775034)

Given that the 4km tolerance has recieved fairly high coverage, add to that the fact that most car speedos read anything up to 10% slow, the people who pay any attention to speed limits are going to be driving on the low side of 90 anyway. Throw in an impatient person to try a risky overtaking manoeuver, and we're seeing the result.

I cannot find the source, but I read some time ago one US state removed the open highway speed limit (and yes, their highways are far superior to NZ goat tracks) and they found the median speed increased only a small degree, as people only went as fast as they felt comfortable with. No doubt there were some who went for the land speed record, but they would have done that anyway, regardless of limits.

[Brian d marge]

I don't care.

I'm not working!:2thumbsup

That's the spirit, I'm over in nz for a few weeks in march, I will quite happily donate to your donut fund, ( cash or cheque?)
nz dollars, not worth much, banned on an international, doesn't bother, dead due to man walking in front of car beating me with red flag, ( very possible)

oh and I will post the ticket if proof is needed...
105 muvr fker .....105 ....
( this amp goes to ELEVEN) .....

baahahahahaha

stephen

[Brian d marge]

Glad for the 4 kmh tolerance. Got sick of sticking to the speed limit.

let me know, and I will contribute, after all tis the season of goodwill towards all men,
throw me down for a couple of dollars and, a bout with shankes pony ....

105 mver. 105...... viva the revolution ....join me on the tennis court citizens ....

Stephen

[Madness]

Sake on special at Tesco's Stephen?

[Brian d marge]

in fact ... if anyone gets pinged between now and new years
post a copy of the fine and I will pay it
up to 150 dollars ( as that's what I have in kiwi bank,,,,hahaha )

I'm serious, plus you must get a photo of a rozzer getting donuts

I'm serious, the photo isn't required but its would be a laugh

stephen

[Brian d marge]

Sake on special at Tesco's Stephen?

you guessed to, but I'm serious about paying the fines
stephen

[BigAl]

Road toll is at 11 so far compared to 5 this time last Xmas break, so focusing on speed is really making a difference eh?:Police:

[Stirts]

Road toll is at 11 so far compared to 5 this time last Xmas break, so focusing on speed is really making a difference eh?:Police:

Yes, yes it is. They had an awesome xmas party!!!

[scumdog]

Road toll is at 11 so far compared to 5 this time last Xmas break, so focusing on speed is really making a difference eh?:Police:

Yep, good thing they've ignored drink driving, overtaking on blind bends, crossing yellow lines while passing cars and other lesser driving offences to focus on speed - imagine how many more might have died if they hadn't done that!

Having said that, I managed to do about 1,000km cruising the east and central South Island over the last four days, never got a speeding ticket - what's with that??:confused:

[FJRider]

Having said that, I managed to do about 1,000km cruising the east and central South Island over the last four days, never got a speeding ticket - what's with that??:confused:

Four days ... 1000 km's .... a guy on a Harley could have done that ... oh wait ... :shifty:

[scumdog]

Four days ... 1000 km's .... a guy on a Harley could have done that ... oh wait ... :shifty:

I did say 'cruisng'!

And it was in a hot-rod capable of well in excess of 230kph..

And there were times when we weren't cruising but elbow-bending etc instead, hence the low km/day ratio!

So there:bleh:

[FJRider]

I did say 'cruisng'!

And it was in a hot-rod capable of well in excess of 230kph..

And there were times when we weren't cruising but elbow-bending etc instead, hence the low km/day ratio!

So there:bleh:

My mistake ... 1000 km's on a harley in four days is almost racing ... :bleh:

[red mermaid]

It would all depend on the size of the paddock you were ploughing.




My mistake ... 1000 km's on a harley in four days is almost racing ... :bleh:

[Brian d marge]

No one wants me money , must be obeying the rules then ,

Offer stands until the holiday period closes !

Stephen

[milan24]

Road toll is at 11 so far compared to 5 this time last Xmas break, so focusing on speed is really making a difference eh?:Police:

i agree, 4 km/h tolerance isnt working, i think the government needs money to balance the book

[scumdog]

My mistake ... 1000 km's on a harley in four days is almost racing ... :bleh:

Piss off - we did 2,100+ km going to /from the KB rally - four days of it.

And we weren't racing!:bleh:

[pete376403]

13. Can't wait to see the spin Paula Rose and Gerry Brownlee (Minister of Transport) put on final holiday road toll.

About the only half-good thing about it is that so far it doesn't include (AFAIK) any bike riders

[BigAl]

13. Can't wait to see the spin Paula Rose and Gerry Brownlee (Minister of Transport) put on final holiday road toll.

don't worry they'll still find a way to blame speed and be adamant that the 4k tolerance has worked:facepalm:

[Damantis]

Have a Belltronics RX65 and got the heads up half a dozen times on the expressway today. The last time, I was heading south towards Ohinewai / Tahuna junction when I picked up signal from Highway Patrol in the usual spot hiding on the onramp ahead. A guy in a Pajero passed me doing at least 120-130 going under the bridge. Detector was going nuts all the way till over the crest at the end of the expressway so I can only assume the Pajero was speed checked at at least 20 kph over the limit.

Maybe his shift was ending and he'd already hit his quota? Oops, I mean "Performance Target" Or maybe he was just sick of standing in the rain giving out tickets?

Whatever the reason, seems pretty inconsistent with what's in the media

[steve_t]

13. Can't wait to see the spin Paula Rose and Gerry Brownlee (Minister of Transport) put on final holiday road toll.

About the only half-good thing about it is that so far it doesn't include (AFAIK) any bike riders

"New Zealand is set for its lowest annual toll of road deaths since 1952 - the last year in which fewer than 300 people were killed in vehicle crashes...

Despite a grim holiday road toll of 11 (15 now :( ) deaths so far since Christmas Eve, the annual figure stood last night at 280 people killed, with just two days left of the year...

Superintendent Paula Rose, the national road policing manager, yesterday described this year's dramatic improvement as "pretty amazing" and something for all New Zealanders to be proud of." :facepalm: :Pokey:

[Brian d marge]

"New Zealand is set for its lowest annual toll of road deaths since 1952 - the last year in which fewer than 300 people were killed in vehicle crashes...

Despite a grim holiday road toll of 11 (15 now :( ) deaths so far since Christmas Eve, the annual figure stood last night at 280 people killed, with just two days left of the year...

Superintendent Paula Rose, the national road policing manager, yesterday described this year's dramatic improvement as "pretty amazing" and something for all New Zealanders to be proud of." :facepalm: :Pokey:

"Cos I’m alcoholic , I m off me nut , I just luv me self ........ masturbatory grindfucker "

Paula ( GORDON) Bennett was quoted in the herald today

Stephen

[rastuscat]

No one wants me money , must be obeying the rules then ,

Offer stands until the holiday period closes !

Stephen

Please send the cash to

itwasntmyfault@denyanyliability.com

I'll invest it in donuts.

254136

[Brian d marge]

Please send the cash to

itwasntmyfault@denyanyliability.com

I'll invest it in donuts.

254136

Its on its way

Enjoy

Stephen

[davebullet]

Here's a thought... if they reduce the tolerance next time from 4kph to 3kph, then the stats are bound to get 25% better again.

[rastuscat]

Here's a thought... if they reduce the tolerance next time from 4kph to 3kph, then the stats are bound to get 25% better again.

Loving your bike/front/stand avatar.

Not loving your logic. Ah well, too much love in this world.

[Shadows]

I thought the tolerance was 40 km/hr

Heheh I've always looked at it that way too.