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[Henk]

Sweet, now where can we get a track under lights to run for 24 hours, I'm keen.

[jasonu]

Sweet, now where can we get a track under lights to run for 24 hours, I'm keen.

What about buckets with lights???

[nzmikey]

What about buckets with lights???

I cant see the lights lasting that long ........ 10mins after it gets dark the battery's on the poor bikes would shit themselves, :lol: I spose we could strap glow sticks on the bikes & riders greeen for the rider & orange for the bikes :clap:


As you were

[haydes55]

Sweet, now where can we get a track under lights to run for 24 hours, I'm keen.

I'm keen! Just need a kart track that is too far away from bitching neighbours to worry about the noise. hire 5 or 6 portable light stands (at Christchirch speedway they hired 4 lighting rowers that were just a trailer generator with a telescopic tower with a set of lights on top. Worked perfectly) http://www.accessman.co.nz/Equipment+For+Hire/Lighting+Towers.html Accessman helped with sponsoring these at a great rate, could work out another deal.

[Pumba]

I know the karters at Mt Wellington have run evening/night meetings by just bringing in the portable light towers. Unfortuently with the RMA no track in NZ would be allowed to operate 24hrs.

No doubt if you wanted to go through the consenting process for a one off event a year it would be possible. $$$$$$

[schrodingers cat]

Unfortuently with the RMA no track in NZ would be allowed to operate 24hrs.


I suspect that is a blanket opinion. First objection obviously would be noise.
What you would be allowed to do at 85Db would be quite different to what would be OK at 90Db depending on zoning etc.
I would have thought is would be achievable at Hampton Downs, Taupo (short track), Ruapuna (A track), Teretonga.
Puke, Manfild and Levels all have restrictions on their useage. The other less so.

THe biggest issue (and yes it is $$$$) is what track would be interested in hosting the event bacause of the associated costs - Governing Body license, Ambulance, officials and marshalls etc. Spread across 11 entries as in the video would add up

The rules make sense in that you can have up to 12 riders in your team. At that ratio you'd get, and have to pay for 2hrs racing - pretty much 1/4 of a years budget for one race - assuming you got to have a go: the bike could be melted be time time you're turn arrived.
Obviously the beauty of endurance riding is that the percentage of track time to travel, food , accomodation cost etc is higher.

[Pumba]

Hmmm, maybe I did not word my post quite as correctly as I should have, fuck I am still on holiday and no one is paying me to use my brain so why should I.

No track in NZ currently has resource consent to operate 24hr. As far as I am aware there are a number that have late night hours at certain times.

In order to run a 24hr race in NZ you would require a resource consent for that particular event as it would be outside the operating conditions of the track.

On a big track (Hampton, Puke, etc.) I agree the costs associated with what you are a referring to would be horrendous at best, therefore I believe the best chance for something like this happening in NZ (although it is a long shot at best) would be utilising the kart tracks as I am sure the overheads could be kept lower (less lights required, cheaper hirage costs, less marshals required etc).

[schrodingers cat]

Hmmm, maybe I did not word my post quite as correctly as I should have, fuck I am still on holiday and no one is paying me to use my brain so why should I.

No track in NZ currently has resource consent to operate 24hr. As far as I am aware there are a number that have late night hours at certain times.

In order to run a 24hr race in NZ you would require a resource consent for that particular event as it would be outside the operating conditions of the track.

On a big track (Hampton, Puke, etc.) I agree the costs associated with what you are a referring to would be horrendous at best, therefore I believe the best chance for something like this happening in NZ (although it is a long shot at best) would be utilising the kart tracks as I am sure the overheads could be kept lower (less lights required, cheaper hirage costs, less marshals required etc).

For sure. Also slower so less tyre, chain, brake wear.
To be honest it would prolly make more sense to contact someone over there and buy seat time. The cost of the ticket wouldn't really be an issue in the big scheme of things.

[haydes55]

I have a crazy stupid idea :weird: The race is run through a gorge, all bikes made street legal. Have pits at one end of a gorge and the route is to a transponder wire at the other end then back. Will be no speeding, bikes legal. Just other cars in the path and holding up faster cars haha and no one would want to crash. Could be a :motu: to the :Police: haha =P

A road around the Coromandel would be ideal, hire a farmers paddock for 2 days pit tents. will need spare batteries and decent headlights on the bikes (no street lights). Organising cost near none, each riders cost will be a bit higher to get bikes street legal etc.

Stupid ideas are my speciality:bleh:

[Hilleye]

What about something a bit more modest like an 8hr or 12hr event? Some of this could still be done in the dark without going all night and requiring massive commitment in overcoming RMA obstacles, say 10:00am to 10:00pm or something like that.

[speedpro]

i organised a 6hr bucket race years ago on Whenuapai. Went surprisingly well, apart from me getting knocked out for about 5 minutes.

[all4A50s]

What about something a bit more modest like an 8hr or 12hr event? Some of this could still be done in the dark without going all night and requiring massive commitment in overcoming RMA obstacles, say 10:00am to 10:00pm or something like that.

After the first time I saw this class on line I was always keen for a 6-8hr at Manfield, given they've run them there before and it's central location.

[Rick 52]

Very keen ! Brilliant idea and a very cool vid ...

[Henk]

I'd be up for a 6 or 12 hour, suspect the field would be quite small though.
Having as many riders as you like and a bike for spares might make people a bit more keen.
My preferred strategy would probably be to start pulling the useful bits (clip ons, rear sets, engine) out of the spare bike as soon as the flag drops.

[Hilleye]

I'd be up for a 6 or 12 hour, suspect the field would be quite small though.
Having as many riders as you like and a bike for spares might make people a bit more keen.
My preferred strategy would probably be to start pulling the useful bits (clip ons, rear sets, engine) out of the spare bike as soon as the flag drops.

Would you bother worrying about limiting spares? It'd just reduce the number of finishers. The time penalty spent in changing something like a complete motor over would probably be enough me thinks.

[Henk]

Depends on what you want to allow in the way of spares I guess.
For the two hour here you have to start and finish on the same bike. If you make it open slather you could have everybody ride their own bike and take the reliability issue out of endurance racing.
Also means fuel stops would become a case of park one bike start the next, also the wet bike dry bike approach that would take any strategic advantage out of making the right decisions on what tyres to run.
A mate and I played the wet bike / dry bike game here one meeting since we were in different grades at the time. Did practice on wets, qualifying on slicks and the races on wets, gave us a bit of an advantage on a day where we had changed wheels five times before we got bored with it and took the easy way out.

[F5 Dave]

Good greif, is this fool thread still going? You'd trash your racing budget & a set of tyres in just one race. What a waste. & besides it would be pointless. The 2 hrs are fun, but not often the result isn't known by 1/2 way (some recent exceptions). But any longer on a bucket? bah. Leave the bike to race the rest of the year.

[Hilleye]

Depends on what you want to allow in the way of spares I guess.
For the two hour here you have to start and finish on the same bike. If you make it open slather you could have everybody ride their own bike and take the reliability issue out of endurance racing.
Also means fuel stops would become a case of park one bike start the next, also the wet bike dry bike approach that would take any strategic advantage out of making the right decisions on what tyres to run.
A mate and I played the wet bike / dry bike game here one meeting since we were in different grades at the time. Did practice on wets, qualifying on slicks and the races on wets, gave us a bit of an advantage on a day where we had changed wheels five times before we got bored with it and took the easy way out.

I think use of the same bike throughout should be about the only requirement. So no "bike blows up grab another bike", it'd be "bike blows up fix existing engine or insert new engine", which is obviously going to consume time. As for cost, well it's going to be split probably between 4 - 6 ways so I reckon it's probably still pretty affordable. 6 hr events have proven the concept works already and is good fun, don't think anyone had to file for bankruptcy.