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nzspokes
1st January 2012, 14:08
Im looking at a XJ600 which I can get for next to nothing. Its been dropped on the left and taken out the pulse generator and stator cover. Are these hard to get these days?

It needs a tone of other stuff but these are the parts that concern me to get.

Kickaha
1st January 2012, 14:41
Im looking at a XJ600 which I can get for next to nothing. Its been dropped on the left and taken out the pulse generator and stator cover. Are these hard to get these days?

It needs a tone of other stuff but these are the parts that concern me to get.

You're looking at a bike which came out in 1984 so 27 years old, heaps of bits on Ebay and the earlier XJ550 motor is basically the same

XJbikes.com has all the info you may ever need (if you can find it)

If you don't get it I would be interested as little bro bought one which needs a few engine bits

RDjase
1st January 2012, 15:35
You're looking at a bike which came out in 1984 so 27 years old, heaps of bits on Ebay and the earlier XJ550 motor is basically the same

XJbikes.com has all the info you may ever need (if you can find it)

If you don't get it I would be interested as little bro bought one which needs a few engine bits

Has your bro got his new toy now? What other bits does he need?
I saw one in town the other day, same colour and it was was a minter

Kickaha
1st January 2012, 15:45
Has your bro got his new toy now? What other bits does he need?
Probably a motor :lol: one big end nut and a bit of the cylinder sleeve lying in the sump

RDjase
1st January 2012, 16:03
Probably a motor :lol: one big end nut and a bit of the cylinder sleeve lying in the sump

Oops ! maybe another donor bike is needed mate. The XJ wheels are the same as RZ so could come in handy tho...........

Only a few days to go before were in your neck of the woods, you can brings the pies and Cokes to Ruapuna

Grumph
1st January 2012, 16:06
Probably a motor :lol: one big end nut and a bit of the cylinder sleeve lying in the sump

They all do that sir...eventually. I saw two in one year back in the day including Jacqui Madelin's one....

If I did one for post classic racing I sure wouldn't use stock rods.

Kickaha
1st January 2012, 16:09
They all do that sir...eventually. I saw two in one year back in the day including Jacqui Madelin's one....

If I did one for post classic racing I sure wouldn't use stock rods.

Never heard of it in any of the XJ550/600 engines in road use and haven't ever seen anyone comment on it in the XJ forums, but you sound like just the man to throw at at and sort it out :lol:

Not sure if I will even be at the track Jase but if I am I will bring a pie and coke just for you

FJRider
1st January 2012, 16:19
There are still quite a few on the road .... as they are/were popular bikes. But before you buy ... check it is still in the system ... ie: rego (or proof of in the past) can be checked. As a new VIN may be required ...

Parts though are still available ... Check wrecker web-site listings.

nzspokes
1st January 2012, 17:00
There are still quite a few on the road .... as they are/were popular bikes. But before you buy ... check it is still in the system ... ie: rego (or proof of in the past) can be checked. As a new VIN may be required ...

Parts though are still available ... Check wrecker web-site listings.

Yes needs Vin. But this guy has owned it from 97 and still has the change of ownership into his name. Bike could be mine for $250. But needs a stack of work done on it. But sat on it and instantly felt a great position.

Needs stator housing, pulse gen, fork seals, front and rear brake pads/seals, 2 tyres, etc

Body work is average with lots of scratches. Old guy owns it and rode it every day for a year back in 98. He then had a stroke and couldnt ride. It was ridable untill early last year when grandson took it down the road and dropped it. Its done a bit 20k.

FJRider
1st January 2012, 17:07
Yes needs Vin. But this guy has owned it from 97 and still has the change of ownership into his name. Bike could be mine for $250. But needs a stack of work done on it. But sat on it and instantly felt a great position.

Needs stator housing, pulse gen, fork seals, front and rear brake pads/seals, 2 tyres, etc

Body work is average with lots of scratches. Old guy owns it and rode it every day for a year back in 98. He then had a stroke and couldnt ride. It was ridable untill early last year when grandson took it down the road and dropped it. Its done a bit 20k.

PROOF OF PAST REGISTRATION is required fo VIN ... not of ownership ...

If past rego proof is included in the ownership ... all good.

Parts should not be an issue. I see a workshop manual for sale on trademe (Motorcycle - Parts. Search -XJ600 )

nzspokes
1st January 2012, 17:11
PROOF OF PAST REGISTRATION is required fo VIN ... not of ownership ...

If past rego proof is included in the ownership ... all good.

Parts should not be an issue. I see a workshop manual for sale on trademe (Motorcycle - Parts. Search -XJ600 )

As in plate etc? Its got its plate, a rego sticker and the change of ownership card that looks like the rego card.

FJRider
1st January 2012, 17:18
As in plate etc? Its got its plate, a rego sticker and the change of ownership card that looks like the rego card.

If engine/chassis numbers MATCH the papers ... sweet ... !!! Having the plate is over-rated ... (wont hurt though)

Kickaha
1st January 2012, 17:18
Needs stator housing, pulse gen, fork seals, front and rear brake pads/seals, 2 tyres, etc

Shouldn't be hard to get XJ550, XJ600, YX600, FJ600 and FZ600 are all basically the same motor although the XJ600 turned into the Seca 2 which is a bit later and slightly different


As in plate etc? Its got its plate, a rego sticker and the change of ownership card that looks like the rego card.
If it's got a plate there shouldn't be any problem

RDjase
1st January 2012, 18:28
Probably a motor :lol: one big end nut and a bit of the cylinder sleeve lying in the sump

Time to build a Ozzy 450 post classic racer:eek:

nzspokes
1st January 2012, 18:42
Does anybody know if they have a wet stator? as in it has oil around it?

Kickaha
1st January 2012, 18:56
Does anybody know if they have a wet stator? as in it has oil around it?

Stator/rotor are up on the back left of the motor behind the cylinder block and are dry

neels
1st January 2012, 20:55
early ones had the alternator behind the engine, some of the later ones had them on the left side. Have a look at yamaha-motor.com, it has full parts listings and if it has a price its still available new, i'll dig out a link when i've got a minute. I had one for a few years, great bike that rides really nice and comfy to ride all day. I'll see if i can find the parts book i had,and a pdf workshop manual if you get it. Check up how much revinning costs, at 250 to buy it plus that and parts could cost more than buying a good going one, Check the state of the mufflers too, they rot out inside the stainless sleeves

nzspokes
1st January 2012, 21:28
early ones had the alternator behind the engine, some of the later ones had them on the left side. Have a look at yamaha-motor.com, it has full parts listings and if it has a price its still available new, i'll dig out a link when i've got a minute. I had one for a few years, great bike that rides really nice and comfy to ride all day. I'll see if i can find the parts book i had,and a pdf workshop manual if you get it. Check up how much revinning costs, at 250 to buy it plus that and parts could cost more than buying a good going one, Check the state of the mufflers too, they rot out inside the stainless sleeves

I did note that one of the end plates of the muffler had been welded up.

I like the idea of a rebuild like this. I would pull it right down and start from scratch changing things to how I will like it. But will get it running first to ensure the motor is ok. Im sure I can rig up a pulse gen. Yes this one has the stator on the LH side.

On a side note if I got it I would want a motor protection bar set up. It looks exposed to me.

Cheers on the offer for the manual, will let you know how I go as ive made an offer.

Its red and silver now but see it in yellow with the Yam checkers down the side like the old race bikes. And some small storage built into the front fairing, and a power take off point, and hard panniers, etc etc

Kickaha
1st January 2012, 21:34
Yes this one has the stator on the LH side.
On the end of the crank?
I haven't ever seen one like that, what is the frame number?

nzspokes
1st January 2012, 21:35
On the end of the crank?
I haven't ever seen one like that, what is the frame number?

Dont know, not bought it yet.

RDjase
1st January 2012, 21:38
I did note that one of the end plates of the muffler had been welded up.

I like the idea of a rebuild like this. I would pull it right down and start from scratch changing things to how I will like it. But will get it running first to ensure the motor is ok. Im sure I can rig up a pulse gen. Yes this one has the stator on the LH side.

On a side note if I got it I would want a motor protection bar set up. It looks exposed to me.

Cheers on the offer for the manual, will let you know how I go as ive made an offer.

Its red and silver now but see it in yellow with the Yam checkers down the side like the old race bikes. And some small storage built into the front fairing, and a power take off point, and hard panniers, etc etc

http://www.ignitech.cz/english/aindex.htm

Try here for new ignition parts, under products, then igintion accessories for a good range of pickups

neels
2nd January 2012, 13:18
On the end of the crank?
I haven't ever seen one like that, what is the frame number?
Looks like this, from about '88 on I think....

254251

Found my way to the parts catalog, you'll need to look up an FJ600 84-85 as it's american http://www.yamaha-motor.com/partviewer/default.aspx?ls=sport

Worth a chat with your local yamaha dealer, they still supply parts for old bikes, and the prices for the stuff I've bought was cheaper than aftermarket bits.

Kickaha
2nd January 2012, 13:38
Looks like this, from about '88 on I think....
254251

That finned cover you can see behind the cylinder is where the stator normally lives, ignition pick up should be behind that left hand cover

nzspokes
2nd January 2012, 15:02
That finned cover you can see behind the cylinder is where the stator normally lives, ignition pick up should be behind that left hand cover

Thats different to the one im looking at. It is/ was in there.

Sable
2nd January 2012, 18:22
Don't do it buddy, it's a huge waste of money. Fucked motor not in system other things wrong too.. realistically even if it was all fixed up it wouldn't be worth much more than a grand. Revin alone is around 800. Buy something else. My fizzer's still for sale on a side note

neels
2nd January 2012, 19:03
It's not for sale on trademe (http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-434930870.htm) at the moment by any chance?

If it is from a quick carjam it looks like it's been around the clock and 20k's is actually 120k's, I wouldn't be putting much money into a 20+ year old 600 with that sort of mileage on it.


Don't do it buddy, it's a huge waste of money. Fucked motor not in system other things wrong too.. realistically even if it was all fixed up it wouldn't be worth much more than a grand. Revin alone is around 800.

Sadly this is probably true, mine was as mint as you're likely to get for it's age and with new mufflers and tyres on it I got less than 2 grand when I sold it.

nzspokes
2nd January 2012, 21:40
Don't do it buddy, it's a huge waste of money. Fucked motor not in system other things wrong too.. realistically even if it was all fixed up it wouldn't be worth much more than a grand. Revin alone is around 800. Buy something else. My fizzer's still for sale on a side note

Im not going to now. Hes not accepted my offer. And im not going to offer higher. To much to do on it.

I would love your FZR but outside my current budget due to ex wife and old business debts. Whats the position on it like? They dont look as extreme as modern sports bikes. Its a sexy bike.

nzspokes
2nd January 2012, 21:54
Wow, check this out http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-436755054.htm

That looks mint.

Pussy
3rd January 2012, 10:44
Wow, check this out http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-436755054.htm

That looks mint.

Let me know if you'd like me to have a look at this bike for you.

nzspokes
30th January 2012, 12:44
Lookin at another XJ600. 89 this time. Has a small rattle on cold start and needs an inlet manifold is its cracked. Guessing rattle is timing chain, is it hard to do on them?

neels
30th January 2012, 13:37
Could be timing chain, also could be alternator/starter chain, I'm not sure if the later 600's had the same problem as the earlier engines with a rattle from the oil pump drive gear.

If it goes a way with a few revs then none of these are life threatening, timing chain adjustment is easy to do unless the chain is stuffed.

Kickaha
30th January 2012, 17:21
Thats different to the one im looking at. It is/ was in there.

Got to have a look at one ofthese and the stator is indeed on the end of the crank, up behind the finned cover where it would normally be is an empty space with a tapered shaft where you could fit one

End of the crank must be different than the XJ550 to take one

nzspokes
30th January 2012, 19:51
Could be timing chain, also could be alternator/starter chain, I'm not sure if the later 600's had the same problem as the earlier engines with a rattle from the oil pump drive gear.

If it goes a way with a few revs then none of these are life threatening, timing chain adjustment is easy to do unless the chain is stuffed.

My guess is it needs tappets etc done and chain adj. Are the chains a mission to do?

Bikes done 100K but is in great cond. Same owner from 20k. Only selling cause his missus got him a Ducati for his 50th.

Wonder if she has a younger sister.

neels
30th January 2012, 22:29
My guess is it needs tappets etc done and chain adj. Are the chains a mission to do?

Bikes done 100K but is in great cond. Same owner from 20k. Only selling cause his missus got him a Ducati for his 50th.

Wonder if she has a younger sister.
Mine had done 85k and still going great when I sold it, had a bit of a rattle in the engine that went away when warmed up which I never worried about too much. According to the parts book I have the camchain has a joining link, so in my past experience you can just mark the cams at tdc then use the old chain to draw a new one through the crankcase and join it up.

Previous owner is the 4th person I know of (including myself) who has moved from an xj600 to a ducati, so beware if you buy it there may be an italian in you future...:facepalm:

nzspokes
30th January 2012, 22:33
Mine had done 85k and still going great when I sold it, had a bit of a rattle in the engine that went away when warmed up which I never worried about too much. According to the parts book I have the camchain has a joining link, so in my past experience you can just mark the cams at tdc then use the old chain to draw a new one through the crankcase and join it up.

Previous owner is the 4th person I know of (including myself) who has moved from an xj600 to a ducati, so beware if you buy it there may be an italian in you future...:facepalm:

What a frikin great idea for the chain.

So what did your one go like? Sounds like they have some power. Its got the stock exhaust but comes with a 4 into 1.

Its also got 3" bar risers which would come off.:facepalm:

neels
30th January 2012, 22:50
What a frikin great idea for the chain.

So what did your one go like? Sounds like they have some power. Its got the stock exhaust but comes with a 4 into 1.

Its also got 3" bar risers which would come off.:facepalm:
My bike went great, if it wasn't for rego costs and needing the money for the next bike I would have kept it. Excellent step up from a 250 with enough power to keep me happy 95% of the time, reasonable brakes and very forgiving and predictable handling. Really only upgraded because I started doing longer distances, and was having to work it too hard to keep up with people on 1000cc+ bikes when I was 2 up and loaded with gear.

Don't know why you'd want 3" risers, the standard riding position is upright enough to be nice around town, and I could happily ride it all day and still walk when I got off.

nzspokes
2nd February 2012, 20:25
This is like two XJ600s put together. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=445305118