Warning about potentially dodgy seller

[tigertim20]

Hey fellas.
thought it would be worth posting this up.
My flatmates bike was stolen several months ago. the bike was found, dumped in Otago Harbour, where it had been overnight.
I was there when the bike was craned out by the salvage company.

the bike has since turned up on Trademe. the current owner of the wreck bought it from turners auctions as a wreck, and he is currently selling parts off it, however he is not making any mention of the salt water damage.

The seller is DEFINITELY aware of the salt water damage, as after buying the wreck, he contacted the flatmate, and said 'hey what can you tell me about your old bike'.
The flatmate gave him the whole story, includeing full details of it being submerged in salt water.

I thought people should be wary that this seller is selling parts that spent a night submerged in the ocean, and isnt sharing that with potential customers.

Oh, before anyone asks how I know its the same bike, simple:
I did all the work on it for my flatmate
and there are several cear signs that it is the same bike, like the go pro sticker on the right lower fork he put there when he got his go pro hd, the red strap on the rear seat, the bent tyga exhaust system that I fitted to it, the gold chain and new sprockets that I fitted to it, the missing decals on the LHS, and the 'fat bikers eat the road' decal on top of the tank.

just a heads up if you intend to get parts of this guy.

here is the link to the auction:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/wheels/auction-436781536.htm

[DrunkenMistake]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/wheels/auction-436781536.htm



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This was my bike,
52ZDB is the rego number, just encase you have your doubts.

[hayd3n]

all ppl on trademe are dodgy

[tigertim20]

could also add the flush mounts on the front and the pack rack bars and the go pro mount on the tail etc etc but you get the point!!

[sil3nt]

Is a night in the ocean actually going to turn things to shit? serious question...i tend not to park vehicles in the ocean so have no idea what the effects would be...

[tigertim20]

Is a night in the ocean actually going to turn things to shit? serious question...i tend not to park vehicles in the ocean so have no idea what the effects would be...

short answer, very few parts are going to be a-ok after that.
anything electrical is gone burger, which includes the led lighting, loom, ignition, dash, trick ecu he installed etc etc.
wheels would possibly be ok but youd wanna replace the bearings.
in my opinion, its worth scrap metal value.
I wouldnt buy parts that had been submerged in salt water. period.

Im more bothered that the info hasnt been openly shared in the auction.

[Hitcher]

Im more bothered that the info hasnt been openly shared in the auction.

Ask the seller a question: "How long was this bike submerged in salt water?"

[tigertim20]

the owner from whom it was stolen has already asked a question along those lines.
we wil wait to see what/if the reply is, however in my opinion, this is info that probably should have been in the auction description in the first place.

[DrunkenMistake]

Subframe was also showing signs of corrosion, when I went and viewed it prior to Auction all of the fairing bolts had rusted out and some of the subframe that was visible was showing similar signs, I would think the inside of the tank wouldnt be looking flash either, the bike has steel braided lines as well, which I wouldnt think will be looking healthy under their blue plastic coating lol

Im not saying this guy is been dishonest, but he hasnt exactly stated that it was fully submerged, and I would hate to see someone buy it/parts off it and have them fail or what have you.

[JMemonic]

Looking at the sellers listings they would appear to be a professional or semi professional motorcycle dismantler. Devils advocate here but it could be they are not the purchaser from the auction (but I suspect they would be).

[DrunkenMistake]

Looking at the sellers listings they would appear to be a professional or semi professional motorcycle dismantler. Devils advocate here but it could be they are not the purchaser from the auction (but I suspect they would be).

I had an auction for the Aftermarket Suzuka fairings I brought for the bike, and the seller contacted me via my cell phone and asked me about the bike and told me he had brought it for $700 from Turners, I had explained to him it had been submerged over night in salt water, and it was a high tide, but he didnt seem to care to much

[JMemonic]

I had an auction for the Aftermarket Suzuka fairings I brought for the bike, and the seller contacted me via my cell phone and asked me about the bike and told me he had brought it for $700 from Turners, I had explained to him it had been submerged over night in salt water, and it was a high tide, but he didnt seem to care to much

Ahh well that say a lot, I could see trouble for the seller given their appearance of a professional nature should someone purchase items that are damaged, corroded or just plain stuffed due to salt water damage.

[KiWiP]

This auction is for the front wheel only with no discs.

I can't see a front wheel having any issues after one nights dunking? What's the issue.

[PeeJay]

Subframe was also showing signs of corrosion, when I went and viewed it prior to Auction all of the fairing bolts had rusted out and some of the subframe that was visible was showing similar signs, I would think the inside of the tank wouldnt be looking flash either, the bike has steel braided lines as well, which I wouldnt think will be looking healthy under their blue plastic coating lol

Im not saying this guy is been dishonest, but he hasnt exactly stated that it was fully submerged, and I would hate to see someone buy it/parts off it and have them fail or what have you.

He doesnt "know"anything
He bought a written off bike and is wrecking it.

Any part you buy from a wrecker could have a dubious history.
Thats why they are cheaper than new parts.

Buying s/h bits from a wrecked bike
Buyer beware
What you see is what you get
No warranty, no guarantee its fit for any purpose
If you dont like what you see dont buy it

Simple

You might have a point if he was putting it back on the road

[HenryDorsetCase]

I can't see a front wheel having any issues after one nights dunking? What's the issue.

I'll ask him a question about the forks. (I would buy them I think if they were cheap and knowing I had to immediately completely disassemble them, new bushings etc.

[DrunkenMistake]

He doesnt "know"anything
He bought a written off bike and is wrecking it.

Any part you buy from a wrecker could have a dubious history.
Thats why they are cheaper than new parts.

Buying s/h bits from a wrecked bike
Buyer beware
What you see is what you get
No warranty, no guarantee its fit for any purpose
If you dont like what you see dont buy it

Simple

You might have a point if he was putting it back on the road
Point taken, as I said I dont think he is been a dishonest seller, but I just wouldnt want anyone to buy parts etc to find they will have a shit load of issues due to the previous damage.



If anyone does decide to get parts off the bike I can give you an idea of the condition prior to the theft.

[tigertim20]

Ahh well that say a lot, I could see trouble for the seller given their appearance of a professional nature should someone purchase items that are damaged, corroded or just plain stuffed due to salt water damage.
yep. there would be a few items that might be ok, however the history of saltwater damage would at least impact whether you refurbished, or just bolted the item straight on, or might affect your decision to buy the part at all.


He doesnt "know"anything
He bought a written off bike and is wrecking it.


Wrong. the seller DOES know, as he went out of his way to contact the owner who it was stolen from. the owner told the current trademe seller very explicitly what had happened to the bike.
the seller has decided to withhold information about the history of the parts that might be very relevant if you wanted to purchase parts, especially so if you wanted one of the electrical components. sure, he MIGHT be honest when actually asked, but salt water damage is something you really should be up front about if you are aware AND HE IS VERY MUCH AWARE - the underlined being the issue.


Any part you buy from a wrecker could have a dubious history.
Thats why they are cheaper than new parts.


No, they are cheaper because they arent brand new. I agree any part COULD have a dubious history, but if you were to buy an engine off a seller, and found out when it arrived that it had bent valves, holed a piston and had a fucked gearbox, you would be quite unhappy to find out the seller KNEW the faults and CHOSE not to disclose it.
yes buying parts can be a minefield, however I would ONLY buy parts from sellers that are reputable, and appear to be honest and up front. there is information that could be highly relevant about these parts and the seller has chosen not to provide that information to the seller.

I partly understand the buyer beware, fair enough if the seller had bought it and NOT known the condition, however he does know the condition, and therein lies the issue

[breakaway]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/CommunityWatch.aspx?id=436781536

Report the listing. Don't let this guy rip people off.

[PeeJay]

yep. there would be a few items that might be ok, however the history of saltwater damage would at least impact whether you refurbished, or just bolted the item straight on, or might affect your decision to buy the part at all.


Wrong. the seller DOES know, as he went out of his way to contact the owner who it was stolen from. the owner told the current trademe seller very explicitly what had happened to the bike.
the seller has decided to withhold information about the history of the parts that might be very relevant if you wanted to purchase parts, especially so if you wanted one of the electrical components. sure, he MIGHT be honest when actually asked, but salt water damage is something you really should be up front about if you are aware AND HE IS VERY MUCH AWARE - the underlined being the issue.

No, they are cheaper because they arent brand new. I agree any part COULD have a dubious history, but if you were to buy an engine off a seller, and found out when it arrived that it had bent valves, holed a piston and had a fucked gearbox, you would be quite unhappy to find out the seller KNEW the faults and CHOSE not to disclose it.
yes buying parts can be a minefield, however I would ONLY buy parts from sellers that are reputable, and appear to be honest and up front. there is information that could be highly relevant about these parts and the seller has chosen not to provide that information to the seller.

I partly understand the buyer beware, fair enough if the seller had bought it and NOT known the condition, however he does know the condition, and therein lies the issue

And why should he take your pals word as gospel ?

Could be the word of someone pissed off at losing out in the auction for all he knows.

He buys the bike at auction under the same conditions, ie no warranty, no guarantee, what you see is what you get, dont buy it if you dont like it.

Do you actually know the wrecker is the same guy who won the auction ?

Do you actually know this particular bike is the one that was allegedly in the drink ?

Do you actually know if the wheel he is selling is actually of the bike that was allegedly in the drink?

If you think about it the answer to all these is NO

Because without taking a trip to Tauranga to inspect the bike you wouldnt know

He may have a truckload of NC30 parts for all anyone knows

[DMNTD]

I can't see a front wheel having any issues after one nights dunking? What's the issue.

Yep, pretty much agree with you there.

On a side note...this guy happens to be be the choice of many of NZ's motorcycle racers when it comes to having dyno work done.
He was also the original owner of GP Honda in Mt Maunganui.
A couple of pointed questions (if he decides to auction off other bits) will show if he's going to be dodgy...which would surprise me.

[superman]

I asked "What's the reason for wrecking?"

His response "Because I'm a Motorcycle Wrecker"

:facepalm:

"The bikes reason for wrecking..."
"."

Sounds like a douche.

[Katman]

Sounds like a douche.

u do

[riffer]

u do

What? blub, blub, blub?

[KiWiP]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/CommunityWatch.aspx?id=436781536

Report the listing. Don't let this guy rip people off.

Why? I'm still not seeing this. He is selling a wheel ffs. When you buy a brand new bike from a dealer would you seriousley expect them to list every thing which made it not perfect, because that's what your implying this guy should do otherwise he's 'ripping you off' get real "Buyer Beware!"
If it's an integral safety component then maybe a wrecker is not the best plce to buy from if you don't know how to check or make safe those components.

again - Buyer beware!

on another note, from the auction (LOL)



Questions and answersAsk the seller a question (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/AddComment.aspx?listingtype=A&closed=False&id=436781536&pageMcat=0001-0026-0135-2504-)
What's the reason for wrecking? <small style="font-size: 11px; white-space: nowrap; ">fragger (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Listings.aspx?member=4003714) (39 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Feedback.aspx?member=4003714) http://www.trademe.co.nz/images/star10.gif (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Members/Feedback.aspx?member=4003714)) 10:15 pm, Mon 2 Jan</small>
Because Im a Motorcycle Wrecker. <small class="NoWrapping" style="font-size: 11px; white-space: nowrap; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">10:36 am, Tue 3 Jan</small>

[superman]

on another note, from the auction

Doesn't read thread just posts.

[onearmedbandit]

Doesn't read thread just posts.

Doesn't consider other possibilities.

Your post was 17 minutes before his. I've opened up threads before, read them, gone to post a reply but been distracted for 20 minutes, then come back and finished off my reply.

[breakaway]

Why? I'm still not seeing this. He is selling a wheel ffs.

It's a 'wrecking' auction. It's a matter of time until someone asks for the loom or CDI and gets burned. We all know what saltwater does to electronics and wiring not intended for use in a marine environment :rolleyes:

[DrunkenMistake]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/CommunityWatch.aspx?id=436781536

Report the listing. Don't let this guy rip people off.


Hes not ripping anyone off that we know of, he just hasnt said the parts are salt water damaged.

[Katman]

Fuck me there's some busy bodies in this thread.

[superman]

Fuck me there's some busy bodies in this thread.

Holidays are boring when there's shitty weather!

[DMNTD]

It's a 'wrecking' auction. It's a matter of time until someone asks for the loom or CDI and gets burned. We all know what saltwater does to electronics and wiring not intended for use in a marine environment :rolleyes:

It's an auction for a front wheel is it not?
It would only be an 'issue' if he was selling a loom, or similar and not disclosing that it had salt water damage

[Brian407]

I can't see a front wheel having any issues after one nights dunking? What's the issue.

Just a thought for consideration here. The wheels are most likely magnesium alloy, correct? Unprotected Magnesium Alloy has a very low resistance, and high rate of corrosion, when exposed to salt. Dissolved Oxygen does not increase the rate, as it does in iron, it actually slows it down. The mag/alloy will protect itself from dissolved oxy by forming a grey powdery protective layer on its surface, which is why salt spray, and salt laden air doesnt adversely affect your wheels and engine cases etc. (providing it's washed off at regular intervals). Mag/Alloys immersed in salt water are not protected in the same way, as dissolved oxygen, while present, is in much lower levels and the alloy cant protect itself to the same degree. As a result, the salts permeate the surface of the metal and begin corroding the alloy from below the surface. This happens at a suprisingy fast rate, and the damage generally cant be seen until the alloy becomes weak and fractures or collapsses under pressure.

Thats for bare, unprotected metal, but if the wheel had any fresh paint damage, and the metal hadnt stated oxidising (i.e.protecting itself) then the immersed salts could have been absorbed, and the damage could well be underway.

Its very, very hard to tell, without metalurgy testing. When buying from wreckers, you're playing russian roulette and trying to balance the odds, but when the prior knowledge is there I would stay away.

[superman]

when the prior knowledge is there I would stay away.

Exactly, he should state that it was submerged. It doesn't matter if people think it adversely affects the wheels or not, the consumer should be informed of it. How often would vehicles at the wreckers be from such a situation? I would assume when buying from the wreckers that other parts of the bike had been wrecked, most likely in an accident, maybe from corrosion. But the part I was buying was fine. If the entire reason the bike was being wrecked was due to an ocean submergence I would be bloody pissed off finding out after the fact, especially in an auction situation. Seeing as you will bid more if you think there's nothing wrong with the item.

He's simply money grabbing by withholding information.

[tigertim20]

And why should he take your pals word as gospel ?

Could be the word of someone pissed off at losing out in the auction for all he knows.


did you bother to read the thread at all?
I was quite clear, but ill say it again.
the guy who is wrecking it went to some effort of his own accord, after purchasing the wreck at auction to contact drunkenmistake (the owner of the bike when it was stolen and dumped in the sea).
the guy said to drunkenmistake, I have bought your bike at auction, what can you tell me about it.
the guy told drunkenmistake that he was a wrecker and intended to sell it for parts, drunkenmistake, upon hearing this, made it very clear about the salt water damage.
a few question have since been asked on the auction that give the opportunity to mention the salt water thing, and it hasnt been mentioned.


It's an auction for a front wheel is it not?
It would only be an 'issue' if he was selling a loom, or similar and not disclosing that it had salt water damage

the auction says, 'in for wrecking . . . please ask if you want anything else' - pretty clear the whole thing is up for grabs.
anyways, the thread title says POTENTIAL dodgy seller, it was simply a way to let people know the previous condition of the parts being sold.
he might yet be up front if someone wants an electrical item, I guess we will see.

I just thought that I would want to know if I was looking for parts.

you know now, if you want parts anyway, thats cool its your decision, you at least have the full story.:banana:

[jrandom]

Just a thought for consideration here. The wheels are most likely magnesium alloy, correct?

Doubt it. Aluminium more like.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The only parts (as has been said) I wouldn't personally buy are wiring harnesses etc, the rest will be sweet as after a short swim and a jolly good wash.

[Brian407]

Doubt it. Aluminium more like.

Nope, wont be. Aluminium is too soft for wheels to be made from. Alloys are used because they are harder and more resistant to bumps and knocks etc, whereas straight aluminium will bend and warp, rendering a wheel useless at the first major bump. Mag/Alloy is used primarily because its cheaper than many other, better alloy mixes.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Nope, wont be. Aluminium is too soft for wheels to be made from. Alloys are used because they are harder and more resistant to bumps and knocks etc, whereas straight aluminium will bend and warp, rendering a wheel useless at the first major bump. Mag/Alloy is used primarily because its cheaper than many other, better alloy mixes.

The std wheels may well be a mix, but I very much doubt that mix will have any magnesium in it.

[jrandom]

Nope, wont be. Aluminium is too soft for wheels to be made from.

I wasn't suggesting that they'd be made from pure aluminium.

Most 'mag' wheels these days are made from an alloy based on aluminium, not magnesium (the magnesium ones are a fair bit more expensive). Bike wheels included.

The interwebs are your friend. Google before displaying ignorance. It saves on blushes.

[Brian407]

I wasn't suggesting that they'd be made from pure aluminium.

Most 'mag' wheels these days are made from an alloy based on aluminium, not magnesium (the magnesium ones are a fair bit more expensive). Bike wheels included.

The interwebs are your friend. Google before displaying ignorance. It saves on blushes.

Whatever..... Believe what you want...

[jrandom]

Whatever..... Believe what you want...

<img src="http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png"/>

Do you really, really think that all cast alloy wheels have magnesium in them?

Would you like to place a bet on this?

[DMNTD]

Whatever..... Believe what you want...

Believing is one thing...knowing is another :niceone:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Whatever..... Believe what you want...

I've seen a lot of std wheels welded, and if they had magnesium in 'em...I think they would've burned a fair bit brighter than they did!

[superman]

No matter now he has amended the auction like a good cunt.

"Please note this bike was stolen and dumped in the ocean (as advised by previous owner).All parts have been cleaned.There was no water in Engine or carbs and the engine runs great so dont know if bike was fully submerged or not."

Someone even linked him this thread.

RESULT. :lol:

[tigertim20]

good result, Im happy as, buyers of parts will be aware and can make an informed decision. good on that guy for ammending the auction instead of deleting everything off the Q&A section,

for the record it was fully underwater, I was there before the salvage guys, I have pics somewhere if I can find them. it was a pretty sad fucking sight after all the hours I spent turning spanners on that bike for the owner!!

[Maha]

....at the very least, its clean...:rolleyes:

[HenryDorsetCase]

The only parts (as has been said) I wouldn't personally buy are wiring harnesses etc, the rest will be sweet as after a short swim and a jolly good wash.

I'd be worried about the engine internals.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I'd be worried about the engine internals.

I wouldn't. They'd be coated in oil and be fine after a quick swim. Not like they were soaked in acid.

[TrentNz]

depending on the part/s your buying id say it would be okay as long as you gave it a thorough cleaning, e.g. the frame would be fine but you'd need to strip down the head set and put new bearing in etc. as well as the rear swing arm bushings

[HenryDorsetCase]

I wouldn't. They'd be coated in oil and be fine after a quick swim. Not like they were soaked in acid.

..... i guess.

lend me a bike? I feel an experiment coming on.......

[FJRider]

depending on the part/s your buying id say it would be okay as long as you gave it a thorough cleaning, e.g. the frame would be fine but you'd need to strip down the head set and put new bearing in etc. as well as the rear swing arm bushings

It's being sold as parts ... not a complete running bike. The frames (with steering head bearings) is usually the last thing sold ... if at all. Buying parts with bearings/bushes ... means to be safe ... change them, regardless of (known) history ...

[Viscount Montgomery]

the sellers dreaming, if your fucking bike is fucking submerged in the fucking sea the fucking engine and fucking gearbox is full of fucking sand and fucking sludge, the whole bike is totally fucking fucked

[onearmedbandit]

the sellers dreaming, if your fucking bike is fucking submerged in the fucking sea the fucking engine and fucking gearbox is full of fucking sand and fucking sludge, the whole bike is totally fucking fucked

Been drinking much tonight?

[sugilite]

the sellers dreaming, if your fucking bike is fucking submerged in the fucking sea the fucking engine and fucking gearbox is full of fucking sand and fucking sludge, the whole bike is totally fucking fucked
Finally a Kb'er that really does give a fuck, and lots of them!

[ukusa]

the sellers dreaming, if your fucking bike is fucking submerged in the fucking sea the fucking engine and fucking gearbox is full of fucking sand and fucking sludge, the whole bike is totally fucking fucked

:wait: :scratch: sounds fucked to me!

[Brian407]

No matter now he has amended the auction like a good cunt.

"Please note this bike was stolen and dumped in the ocean (as advised by previous owner).All parts have been cleaned.There was no water in Engine or carbs and the engine runs great so dont know if bike was fully submerged or not."

Someone even linked him this thread.

RESULT. :lol:

Good on him for making the statement, left himself wide open to comebacks under the CGA if he didnt, but in so doing he may as well have stuck a flag up saying "dont buy this". Wont be many keen to buy parts now, know I wouldnt be.

Cant help but wonder about the "no water in engine or carbs" bit though. If this was fully submerged, as the OP said, how could there not be water in the carbs?

[Griffin]

To be fair, after reading this ENTIRE thread... I dont see why there is arguing going on... the OP was trying to do fellow motorcyclists a favor by fore warning us all through this forum. Forewarned is forearmed and therefore some appreciation would be nice. If after these warnings you still choose to purchase parts from this bike because you are happy to do so... then so be it - your choice, at least your fully informed (Thanks to OP) as it would seem originally that the "motorcycle wrecker" (good c*nt or not.... ) was initially concealing the known history of this bike. Personally... I sure as hell wouldnt buy parts from a bike I knew had been submerged in salt water.

[Crasherfromwayback]

. I sure as hell wouldnt buy parts from a bike I knew had been submerged in salt water.

Every single time you ride your bike in Wellington it gets covered in moist salt air.

[sinfull]

Every single time you ride your bike in Wellington it gets covered in moist salt air.

Now there's a good reason to stay out of Wellington, i'll just stay right away from the place and ride around on the kapiti coast instead !!!


Bugger

[Crasherfromwayback]

Now there's a good reason to stay out of Wellington, i'll just stay right away from the place and ride around on the kapiti coast instead !!!


Bugger

Don't think it's much better up your way either Matey! Being that close to the sea an all...

[jasonu]

Every single time you ride your bike in Noo Zulund it gets covered in moist salt air.

fixed it for ya

[Griffin]

Every single time you ride your bike in Wellington it gets covered in moist salt air.

Hmmm... may be a slight diffrence between the two scenarios. However... doesnt change my take on it - wouldnt buy salt water submerged second hand parts... or even salt water submerged new parts for that matter. Tis my opinion and perogitive as it may well be yours to happily purchase said items. And good luck to you :)

I still dont get why there is an argument in a thread started by someone trying to be considerate of others. Perhaps this is why society is turning to shit.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hmmm... may be a slight diffrence between the two scenarios. However... doesnt change my take on it - wouldnt buy salt water submerged second hand parts... or even salt water submerged new parts for that matter. Tis my opinion and perogitive as it may well be yours to happily purchase said items. And good luck to you :)

I still dont get why there is an argument in a thread started by someone trying to be considerate of others. Perhaps this is why society is turning to shit.

Yeah we have a lot of people complaining about the spokes (and various other parts) rusting on their HD's. But truth is, the air here in Welly is really hard on them. Notice it's normally just the leading edge of the spokes doing the rusting? But I do fully understand how and why others wouldn't go near salt water 'dipped' parts, so I'm not arguing with them. Like you, it's only my opinion that I would.

I think good on the OP too, I have no problem with the post, and haven't argued his point.

[tigertim20]

the sellers dreaming, if your fucking bike is fucking submerged in the fucking sea the fucking engine and fucking gearbox is full of fucking sand and fucking sludge, the whole bike is totally fucking fucked
so eloquently put!! tourettes for the win.
My thinking was that if the insurance co. said (which they did) that salt water dunkings equal automatic write off, then thats a fair indicator it aint good news!!!

Good on him for making the statement, left himself wide open to comebacks under the CGA if he didnt, but in so doing he may as well have stuck a flag up saying "dont buy this". Wont be many keen to buy parts now, know I wouldnt be.

Cant help but wonder about the "no water in engine or carbs" bit though. If this was fully submerged, as the OP said, how could there not be water in the carbs?
fully submerged it was, when I was waiting for the salvage guy, the tide was just starting to go out, and the top of the screen and the brake fluid reservoir were just barely peeking out over the water. hilarious and gutting at the same time.

he has done the right thing now, there are a few parts that would be ok, PROVIDED they were cleaned properly. which buyers can now be sure to do.

To be fair, after reading this ENTIRE thread... I dont see why there is arguing going on... the OP was trying to do fellow motorcyclists a favor by fore warning us all through this forum. Forewarned is forearmed and therefore some appreciation would be nice. If after these warnings you still choose to purchase parts from this bike because you are happy to do so... then so be it - your choice, at least your fully informed (Thanks to OP) as it would seem originally that the "motorcycle wrecker" (good c*nt or not.... ) was initially concealing the known history of this bike. Personally... I sure as hell wouldnt buy parts from a bike I knew had been submerged in salt water.

was all I wanted, to make sure any buyers knew the condition, and could make their own decisions from there. I see several KB members have already got in on the auction wanting parts, so Im glad its all come out in the open.

[superman]

My flatmates bike was stolen several months ago. the bike was found, dumped in Otago Harbour

How does anyone find a bike dumped in the ocean?!

[ducatilover]

the sellers dreaming, if your fucking bike is fucking submerged in the fucking sea the fucking engine and fucking gearbox is full of fucking sand and fucking sludge, the whole bike is totally fucking fucked
:2thumbsup


How does anyone find a bike dumped in the ocean?!
By looking in the ocean.

How does a Polar bear give head?

[ellipsis]

...without entering into the fray...Joey Dunlop lost all his race machines in the tide a few days before the TT...after pulling them out and soaking all parts in diesel and stuff and reassembly he went onto race and win on said bikes...I sourced an XV750 motor that had been retired to under a bush 10 meters from the high tide line on a local beach, it had salt crystals growing out of every orifice including the exhaust and inlet ports...probably a kilo or more by the time I cleaned it off...it was a fairly faultless motor by the time I had done a clean up and top end rebuild....and thank fuck we dont have countless tons of salt dropped on the roads in the winter to de-ice them like the poor poms have to put up with...or every machine on the road would be of a dubious quality on resale etc...

[ducatilover]

and thank fuck we dont have countless tons of salt dropped on the roads in the winter to de-ice them like the poor poms have to put up with...or every machine on the road would be of a dubious quality on resale etc...

Have to agree with this.
Many classics we have here are in far better nick than one treated the same in pommy land, my Rover P6b had very little rust considering what all the brits/poms say to look out for, same with my Moggy and '73 BMW.

[Crasherfromwayback]

...without entering into the fray...I will anyway...

There ya go.

[DrunkenMistake]

How does anyone find a bike dumped in the ocean?!

The cops said some woman walking her dog spotted it while she was walking along the walk way

[jasonu]

...and thank fuck we dont have countless tons of salt dropped on the roads in the winter to de-ice them like the poor poms have to put up with...or every machine on the road would be of a dubious quality on resale etc...

Isn't an issue as most if not all motorcyclists will have resorted to alternative means of transport long before deicer is dropped. That is the case around here anyway.

[Kickaha]

...without entering into the fray...Joey Dunlop lost all his race machines in the tide a few days before the TT...after pulling them out and soaking all parts in diesel and stuff and reassembly he went onto race and win on said bikes....

The boat they were on sunk, I think they used divers to recover the bikes
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p007l5v7

[shadow sol]

i brought some parts off this bike - the seller was very helpful and honest - i brought the exhaust, and the fairings - when i asked about the engine he told me about the salt water and explained that it had been running, after an oil change etc with no problems. i would say he has been great to deal with, very unfair post - also not fair to link this to his trademe add.

[DMNTD]

i brought some parts off this bike - the seller was very helpful and honest - i brought the exhaust, and the fairings - when i asked about the engine he told me about the salt water and explained that it had been running, after an oil change etc with no problems. i would say he has been great to deal with, very unfair post - also not fair to link this to his trademe add.

Good on ya for posting this up mate :niceone:
I know who the bloke is, and he's not too bad for a Pom :wings:

[DrunkenMistake]

i brought some parts off this bike - the seller was very helpful and honest - i brought the exhaust, and the fairings - when i asked about the engine he told me about the salt water and explained that it had been running, after an oil change etc with no problems. i would say he has been great to deal with, very unfair post - also not fair to link this to his trademe add.

If you read the start of the thread and read the thread title, then the rest of the thread.
I wouldnt have just purchased an SV1000 Master cylinder off him otherwise :facepalm:

there is a weld on the front cowl from the owner before me, if you get them all repaired that one will need be re welded as it was starting to re crack when I had the bike, just encase you missed it.

[shadow sol]

yeah i saw that - cheers though.
i will be getting them repaired soon and then repainted in type 2 colours

[DrunkenMistake]

yeah i saw that - cheers though.
i will be getting them repaired soon and then repainted in type 2 colours

:niceone: the tail piece was welded up to become a one piece as It was going to be prepped for paint as I had a full set of fibreglass fairings for the front,
It looked like it had broken back to two parts when they recovered it other than the damaged caused by the rocks and the towie dragging it from the depths they shouldnt be too bad minus the r/h side rash.