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HenryDorsetCase
3rd January 2012, 16:11
When I bought my Street Triple, the guy before me had had a Scott Oiler on it. Removed when I got it. When I first cleaned the bike, it was noticeable that there was black shit ALL OVER the back of the bike. It was a mission to get off. And in fact I still notice bits of it whenever I clean the bike. I gave it a bath yesterday, and cleaned and oiled the chain, and I got to wondering what was lurking under the sprocket cover.........

Answer: thick, goopy, gritty chain spooge. Really, REALLY gross chain spooge. Two hours to clean the sprocket cover, gear linkage, remove the rearset and chain slider to clean under and around it chain spooge. Absolutely foul.

Much, much worse than any other bike Ive ever had or bought second hand. My theory is that the Scott oiler continuously produces oil with gets trapped in behind the sprocket with all the road grit (of which there is a LOT in chur chur lately) and it formed this greasy, shitty awful mess.

So, yeah: Scott oiler, not for me. I figure a decent quality modern O or X ring chain, and a decent cleaning and (oooh errr) lubing regime will see more riding and less swearing from me.

I used the last of my Maxim chain lube today. its a sprayon wax one. Anyone want to recommend me a chain lube?

Katman
3rd January 2012, 16:13
I used the last of my Maxim chain lube today. its a sprayon wax one. Anyone want to recommend me a chain lube?

The Maxim chain wax.

HenryDorsetCase
3rd January 2012, 16:15
The Maxim chain wax.

It is the best I've used to be fair. I was just wondering if there was a better one. Clearly not.

mattian
3rd January 2012, 16:15
in my limited experience the wax based ones are the best for not flinging off. Even when alot of the others say "non-Fling" I still find it does to a certain extent... so umm yeah. Currently using Silkolene titanium chain gel.

HenryDorsetCase
3rd January 2012, 16:21
ooooh, titanium! I'd buy it because of that pretty much.

Flip
3rd January 2012, 16:43
I had a scott oiler on my last bike a triumph trophy 1200.

I fitted the oiler after I replaced the first chain at 13,000 km. I sold the bike at 86,000 still with the second chain and in 73,000 I only had to adjust the chain once. During this time it used two and a half bottles of their chain lube.

I had it set a one drip every 2-3 minutes, it did leave a little chain oil on the inside of the luggage and around the chain area, I guess it saved me about six $400 chains, and I don't mind cleaning bikes at the worst of times. It did take me ages and acouple of strip downs to get the flow right.

Each to their own I guess. My bikes are shaft and belt drive at the moment. If I was to go back to a chain and I could not fit a oiler I would use HD90 or HD140 if I had some around.

HenryDorsetCase
3rd January 2012, 16:46
I had a scott oiler on my last bike a triumph trophy 1200.

I fitted the oiler after I replaced the first chain at 13,000 km. I sold the bike at 86,000 still with the second chain and in 73,000 I only had to adjust the chain once. During this time it used two and a half bottles of their chain lube.

I had it set a one drip every 2-3 minutes, it did leave a little chain oil on the inside of the luggage and around the chain area, I guess it saved me about six $400 chains, and I don't mind cleaning bikes at the worst of times. It did take me ages and acouple of strip downs to get the flow right.

Each to their own I guess.

I wonder whether the thing was set up right because I took about half a cup of shit out from behind the sprocket cover on a bike that has done 15000k total....

Flip
3rd January 2012, 17:05
Sounds more like the bike was being driven on dirty canterbury roads.

After a trip away a couple of spots of chain lube used to run out fron the front sprocket area and onto the garage floor. I think I once cleaned the front sprocket cover and it was just caked with dirt and oil, but my chain and sprockets were always clean.

FruitLooPs
3rd January 2012, 18:10
http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-chain-lube/dupont-teflon-chain-lube.htm

Got me some of this stuff after reading a few reviews around on the net, new chain and sprockets so I cant really say how good it is/isn't yet. Pitty its much more $$ here than in USA but its pretty neat. :)

jonbuoy
3rd January 2012, 19:47
I wonder whether the thing was set up right because I took about half a cup of shit out from behind the sprocket cover on a bike that has done 15000k total....

Sounds like it was giving way too much oil. No mess with mine, I set mine up the opposite way scottoiler recommend - start at minimum and turn it up gradually until you can maintain a very light coating on the chain.

pritch
3rd January 2012, 19:53
ooooh, titanium! I'd buy it because of that pretty much.


Supercheap usually stock the Silkolene range. I have used it and found it OK but have a Scott oiler again now.
I've never had the splooge problem with the Scott. Castrol is the messiest I've used, I threw it away.

The Motul is sticky and seems to capture fine particles which eventually have a strong resemblance to grinding paste.

caspernz
3rd January 2012, 20:02
ScottOiler, set up correctly, can't be beaten. Chain and sprockets last two to three times as long, the savings from this more than pay for a bit of kero to help with cleanup at washing time :niceone:

orangeback
3rd January 2012, 20:04
It is the best I've used to be fair. I was just wondering if there was a better one. Clearly not.
Ive chopped and changed lots of chain lubes , spreys , waxes , pastes and this is the best ive used , much like OME grease 254391

davebullet
3rd January 2012, 23:47
Penrite chainsaw bar oil. All that canned crap is 10x the price for the convenience of a spray.

Get yourself a paddock stand
Get a dis-used palmolive dishwash bottle
fill it up with the penrite chain oil (supercheap have it)
spin your wheel and squeeze the bottle until a thin stream comes out, lightly lubing the inside.
Repeat on the other side of the x / o ring

You only get splatter if you overoil the bastard. It takes literally 2 minutes and can be done lightly regularly.

Sable
4th January 2012, 03:49
I endorse Spectro SX Chain Wax.

brp
4th January 2012, 09:18
Have used spectro gold - dries that clear that after a run think "Should put more on"

Castrol chain lube - good for coating your tyre.

Use valvoline 80/90 gear oil - helps take up the thumper chain slap nicely - got the tip to use gear oil straight out of the honda manual "Fancy that - people that make the bike actually know what to use" - and by far the cheapest. A little often ! :msn-wink: