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Billy
7th January 2012, 15:53
Excellent ride by Sam to drawfirst blood in the NZSBK Prolite 250 championship race today at Ruapuna.

neil_cb125t
7th January 2012, 17:19
goos stuff sammy!

Rcktfsh
7th January 2012, 17:40
Was an exciting race and definitely go hectic on the last lap, great to see the field size in this and the developement class looking so healthy definitley the best racing of the day. That young fella Jock Woodley who won the developement class could develope into something espicially if he got some leathers from this millenium.

discodan
7th January 2012, 18:55
Impressive race especially considering he was under pressure the whole time and didn't make any mistakes.

CHOPPA
7th January 2012, 19:40
Missed the race but heard about it... Congrats Sam! Thats a bloody good start for the title

gav24
7th January 2012, 20:02
Well done Sam, sounds like your skills continue to improve.
Go Hard, from Mr Coleman, your ex-teacher at KC!

RideLife
8th January 2012, 06:18
:first: Well done Sam!

And Well done Andrew Croft. 4th after being off a bike for so long, and only recently jumping on a Prolite.

Good Stuff Boys.
Even your Mother must be Happy! :niceone:

(I remember the days when I used to be faster than the Croft Family. :facepalm::violin:)

wharfy
8th January 2012, 12:32
Sam did it again today - good work !

lukemillar
8th January 2012, 12:36
Sam did it again today - good work !

Yep - another awesome race! Well done

Billy
8th January 2012, 16:46
Yip,Two more wins today and the GP title,Rode 3 very heady races this weekend and if he can do the same at Timaru next weekend He'll be very hard to beat from there on.

quickbuck
8th January 2012, 17:05
Yes, Well done Sam.
Good to see you are doing well on new tracks to you too.

Matchless-G80
9th January 2012, 05:07
Go Sam I knew you could do it.

Matchless-G80
9th January 2012, 05:27
I think the current champion must now be under pressure with this challenge from Sam. To my knowledge he has come off four times racing against Sam at manfield and again at ruapuna in two meetings only, reflecting Sams ability and his own frustration. Andy hasn't raced for 2 years was able to come back picking up 4th and 5th placings with another 4th in the bag before the spill on the last lap at Ruapuna which also shows great skill. Neither boys have raced in the south but are fast learners, both are actually mainlanders. Looking forward to Timaru and seeing the brothers do v well again.

Billy
9th January 2012, 07:43
I think the current champion must now be under pressure with this challenge from Sam. To my knowledge he has come off four times racing against Sam at manfield and again at ruapuna in two meetings only, reflecting Sams ability and his own frustration. Andy hasn't raced for 2 years was able to come back picking up 4th and 5th placings with another 4th in the bag before the spill on the last lap at Ruapuna which also shows great skill. Neither boys have raced in the south but are fast learners, both are actually mainlanders. Looking forward to Timaru and seeing the brothers do v well again.

Stop talking to yourself Sam,Haha,

Yes I was very impressed with the way Sam handled the pressure and stuck to his game plan,Likewise with Andy,Had a brief conversation with Andy just before the GP yesterday regarding the illegal modifications the Hyosung riders were allowed to run with,Unfortunately as I wasn't there,I couldnt do much to help them,I did advise him to just finish the race and then lodge an official protest,Not sure whether he did or not.

Very disappointing to see the complete arrogance of the Hyosung competitors,Knowing well before they left Auckland that their machines were illegal and then arguing the point with the officials and pretending they didnt know and even more disgusting when their so called junior mentor waded into the argument and tried to condone what amounts to little more than blatant cheating.

Paul in NZ
9th January 2012, 09:13
Well done the Crofts.....

sil3nt
9th January 2012, 09:17
Stop talking to yourself Sam,Haha,

Yes I was very impressed with the way Sam handled the pressure and stuck to his game plan,Likewise with Andy,Had a brief conversation with Andy just before the GP yesterday regarding the illegal modifications the Hyosung riders were allowed to run with,Unfortunately as I wasn't there,I couldnt do much to help them,I did advise him to just finish the race and then lodge an official protest,Not sure whether he did or not.

Very disappointing to see the complete arrogance of the Hyosung competitors,Knowing well before they left Auckland that their machines were illegal and then arguing the point with the officials and pretending they didnt know and even more disgusting when their so called junior mentor waded into the argument and tried to condone what amounts to little more than blatant cheating.Can i be nosy and ask what they are doing?

Billy
9th January 2012, 09:33
Can i be nosy and ask what they are doing?

Yip,You sure can,They have removed the sidestand bracket,Some completely,Some just parts thereof to give them more ground clearance.

quickbuck
9th January 2012, 09:52
Yip,You sure can,They have removed the sidestand bracket,Some completely,Some just parts thereof to give them more ground clearance. Tisk tisk. The rules are pretty clear on that. I'm sure there will be no issues with a protest standing up... Then again if it doesn't then the class will be tainted and I will always be disadvantaged due to the choice that I make to keep the bike road legal. And after all that is the intent of the rule for those that are unsure why it is there.

Str8 Jacket
9th January 2012, 09:57
Tisk tisk. The rules are pretty clear on that. I'm sure there will be no issues with a protest standing up... Then again if it doesn't then the class will be tainted and I will always be disadvantaged due to the choice that I make to keep the bike road legal. And after all that is the intent of the rule for those that are unsure why it is there.

Really no different from SS150's yet people were flaunting the rules (mostly to no avail) back when I was racing in that class and nothing would usually be done. It was frustrating to say the least so I am glad that a stand has been made this time. Blatant cheating is blatant!

Anyway, this thread is to congratulate Sam on his achievements, well done Sam, go hard!!

Billy
9th January 2012, 12:09
Really no different from SS150's yet people were flaunting the rules (mostly to no avail) back when I was racing in that class and nothing would usually be done. It was frustrating to say the least so I am glad that a stand has been made this time. Blatant cheating is blatant!

Anyway, this thread is to congratulate Sam on his achievements, well done Sam, go hard!!

Absolutely right Hels,The streestock class is very hard to police as there are no homologated models required,Which means we dont get supplied the specs required with homologation,That is why we made the Prolite class,Homologated models only.

RobGassit
9th January 2012, 15:53
Sam rode with the maturity of a seasoned veteran. Very impressive. Andrew was quick too and I hope he can afford to keep racing the Nats. Sam won without using a carbon fibre muffler too, a real poke in the eye for the cheque book cheats.:first:

Billy
9th January 2012, 15:56
Sam rode with the maturity of a seasoned veteran. Very impressive. Andrew was quick too and I hope he can afford to keep racing the Nats. Sam won without using a carbon fibre muffler too, a real poke in the eye for the cheque book cheats.:first:

FFS! Who is using a carbonfibre muffler????

Disco_Stu
9th January 2012, 18:10
FFS! Who is using a carbonfibre muffler????

Nobody that I saw. Seems that to a number of competitors an aluminium silencer skin with a cheap carbon look vinyl sticker is a carbon skinned silencer.
Maybe a bit more homework is required before people start throwing accusations.

gav
9th January 2012, 18:47
Yip,You sure can,They have removed the sidestand bracket,Some completely,Some just parts thereof to give them more ground clearance.

Well as far as 250 Proddy racing "mods" go thats probably not too bad :yes: but is there scrutineering at the National Rounds? How do they pass with these mods?

Billy
9th January 2012, 19:00
Nobody that I saw. Seems that to a number of competitors an aluminium silencer skin with a cheap carbon look vinyl sticker is a carbon skinned silencer.
Maybe a bit more homework is required before people start throwing accusations.

Yerr,Think you might need to ring me big fella,There was one that I saw at Manfeild and I approached them and told them it was illegal and was told they wouldnt change it as it cost over $400,Assuming they are still running it,You might want to look a little harder.

RobGassit
9th January 2012, 19:02
Nobody that I saw. Seems that to a number of competitors an aluminium silencer skin with a cheap carbon look vinyl sticker is a carbon skinned silencer.
Maybe a bit more homework is required before people start throwing accusations.

Do your own homework first buddy.

Billy
9th January 2012, 19:03
Well as far as 250 Proddy racing "mods" go thats probably not too bad :yes: but is there scrutineering at the National Rounds? How do they pass with these mods?

Yea and that attitude is exactly what we're trying to stop,Anything outside of the rules is unacceptable,

Dont know what MCI had in place re scrurineering,But even if they had scrutineering its for safety only and doesnt mean your machine is legal,I alerted them to the offending machines on Friday night by phone when I got wind they were planning to do the Nationals.

Mental Trousers
9th January 2012, 20:58
Yea and that attitude is exactly what we're trying to stop

Good luck. This is Un Zud mate :pinch:

SWERVE
9th January 2012, 21:28
OK........ i was gonna keep quiet but as someone brought up the subject.
When i purchased our muffler from the US, i emailed and asked if the "carbon" version of their can was indeed carbon or alu with a carbon sleeve. They duly mailed me back to say it was a carbon cover over aluminium. So it was bought........ as i interpreted the ruling to me NO carbon in/as the constuction of can.
At manfield i was told by Billy that it had been noted / discussed about said can... and was told that the "carbon" would have to be removed.
Not agreeing with such descision....... but did as was asked. Removed outer carbon protective sleeve - and replaced with carbon "look a like" sticker .
This was checked by stewards at the weekend and they noted that there was nothing to say it couldnt be wrapped in a carbon sticker (the alu can was visable as Seths boot has worn some sticker away.
So be warned........... Mr 400 buck end can (NO CARBON) My can wasnt 400 bucks and it was the cheapest variant of all the other brushed alu/stainless cans.

So fight amoungst yourselves about who is right or wrong about carbon as a construction material or as a protective cover! Dont care......... we have a legit can that now weighs a few grams lighter (thanks to the rules).

PS......... the rearsets have been checked against a standard bike and are EXACTLY the same position to centre of peg. Vortex rearsets (Race Supplies) are one of only rearsets that allow you to position peg in original position.... they even have a help page on website to tell you which position it is.
I AM ALL FOR RULES BEING ENFORCED FOR ALL.

i voiced my questions to the relevent authorities earlier in the year about some of the wording/rulings for prolite rules. They acknowledged my thoughts and said that any changes take time........ so in the mean time bike is built to rules as they stand.

So Disco-Stu was correct about this "carbon" can.............. prehaps he should inspect the OTHER one next weekend.

CHOPPA
9th January 2012, 21:40
OK........ i was gonna keep quiet but as someone brought up the subject.
When i purchased our muffler from the US, i emailed and asked if the "carbon" version of their can was indeed carbon or alu with a carbon sleeve. They duly mailed me back to say it was a carbon cover over aluminium. So it was bought........ as i interpreted the ruling to me NO carbon in/as the constuction of can.
At manfield i was told by Billy that it had been noted / discussed about said can... and was told that the "carbon" would have to be removed.
Not agreeing with such descision....... but did as was asked. Removed outer carbon protective sleeve - and replaced with carbon "look a like" sticker .
This was checked by stewards at the weekend and they noted that there was nothing to say it couldnt be wrapped in a carbon sticker (the alu can was visable as Seths boot has worn some sticker away.
So be warned........... Mr 400 buck end can (NO CARBON) My can wasnt 400 bucks and it was the cheapest variant of all the other brushed alu/stainless cans.

So fight amoungst yourselves about who is right or wrong about carbon as a construction material or as a protective cover! Dont care......... we have a legit can that now weighs a few grams lighter (thanks to the rules).

PS......... the rearsets have been checked against a standard bike and are EXACTLY the same position to centre of peg. Vortex rearsets (Race Supplies) are one of only rearsets that allow you to position peg in original position.... they even have a help page on website to tell you which position it is.
I AM ALL FOR RULES BEING ENFORCED FOR ALL.

i voiced my questions to the relevent authorities earlier in the year about some of the wording/rulings for prolite rules. They acknowledged my thoughts and said that any changes take time........ so in the mean time bike is built to rules as they stand.

So Disco-Stu was correct about this "carbon" can.............. prehaps he should inspect the OTHER one next weekend.

What happened to Seth in all the races?

RobGassit
9th January 2012, 21:44
What happened to Seth in all the races?

His muffler was too heavy apparently.;)

SWERVE
9th January 2012, 22:11
What happened to Seth in all the races?

He was busy trying to reduce weight on the ninja by throwing it down the track.... thus relieving it of any bits that stick out......... mmmmmmmmm

Seriously... got too close to Sam Croft on last lap of Race one in the dipper and planted himself face first into the tarmac - forgot about turining ignition off/on to reset tip switch (hence the oopps award) could have maybe still finished 2nd or 3rd!
Got pipped by Sam on race 2 by 0.011 so a 2nd.
Race 3 saw him attempt more weight losing tactics at infield sweeper while leading on lap one. Got back to 4th.

To make me feel better........he crashed HIS bike too in the 125 races.

Guess we had a similar run of luck at the weekend eh Choppa.

discodan
11th January 2012, 10:02
On a positive note, Ants rode brilliantly in Pro Twins using his head and taking initiative when it counted.

Do you know if Bryan Hill is doing all then rounds?

SWERVE
11th January 2012, 19:43
On a positive note, Ants rode brilliantly in Pro Twins using his head and taking initiative when it counted.

Do you know if Bryan Hill is doing all then rounds?

Cheers Dan.
Yes he used his head and got valuable points in the bag. As far as i know bryan is doing the whole series.......... i dont think he will run away with it.. could be a 4/5 way scrap at the end.

wayne
11th January 2012, 21:05
bryan got my bet ............

gav
12th January 2012, 18:32
I heard that the Hyosungs have been protested, any word on the outcome of that protest?

Billy
12th January 2012, 18:38
I heard that the Hyosungs have been protested, any word on the outcome of that protest?

Not quite correct Gav,They were found by officials to be in breach of the rules and have been given til this weekend at Levels to rectify the situation or lose any points gained at Ruapuna,As I understand Daniel Mettam has done what was asked of him,Not sure about the others,Only time will tell.

wharfy
15th January 2012, 20:22
Excellent work Sam handy 34 point lead :)
Your old man will be grinning his head off !

quickbuck
15th January 2012, 20:53
Excellent work Sam handy 34 point lead :)
Your old man will be grinning his head off !

I can see Dave's Grin from here!

Yes, Well done Sam..... Was a great day for Kawasaki ProLites (and Vic Club Members who ride them) I must say ;)

Duke girl
16th January 2012, 16:46
Not only is your Father proud of your Fantastic efforts so far in the Nationals but so am l. You are keeping a level head on you and are riding extremely well and very professional. All the hard work is now paying off and here's wishing you all the very best for the remaining Rounds of the Nationals.
Awesome job Sam. :)

RDjase
16th January 2012, 17:59
The racing has been great, was pitted with Croft Racing over thew weekend. Sam is doing a good job and Andy is going well and having some great battles. Was fairly busy doing crash repairs on Tyler's KR and Andy's EX yesterday, I'm sure they didn't need to both have bent bikes at the same time. Both bikes all go for the last race :msn-wink: