Are motorcycle dealers still having a tough time?

[bsasuper]

So If you really want a new bike, you can walk into a dealership and tick up a bike, as long as you meet the lending criteria, but the lending criteria, and APR are still pretty steep, which leads me to believe they arnt doing to bad.

I was in england 12 years ago, and suzuki dealerships had a ZERO APR on new bikes, what a deal.

[Gremlin]

Yes... very tough time.

[Crasherfromwayback]

We're having a tough time of a very different sort at the mo. We're quickly running out of bikes to sell!

Everyone is buying them without a trade.

We need bikes now!!!

[GrayWolf]

Obviously there will be reasons and decisions that wont be 'public domain' but if a dealer that was supposed to be Yamaha's No1 sales shop has closed it's doors (waikato yamaha), then there must be something going on in certain areas at least.
I guess it will be the small local dealers you'll see go first, just like many small local garages have gone in urban areas.

As much as we expect bike sales to be the 'bread and butter' I would guess a fair amount of turnover would have to come from ancilaries and clothing sales. The crop of online stores in tardme etc must be having an effect at some level. I know of one online store that refused to suppy an item trade to my local dealer, with the comment "we are out to close down dealers like you, if they want an item we can provide, they'll have to buy it from us"... Well thats an interesting attitude, they could supply wholesale to a shop and get greater turnover?? However more interestingly to me is the idea that they want to close dealers down... So when My bike needs a repair WOF, new tyre fitted? I e-mail them, and it gets fixed over the internet?
There will be dealers without a doubt, but it will be 'interesting' to see what will happen in the next year or two.

[Gremlin]

Actually, it's the workshop that generally keeps the doors open. Without one, or without it functioning well, there's little chance the shop will survive.

Often small margins in bike sales.

[insomnia01]

Pop in to BOYD'S any Saturday ( any day as a matter of fact ) & it's like a supermarket, people everywhere BUYING things, they have the formula :niceone:

[nzmikey]

We're having a tough time of a very different sort at the mo. We're quickly running out of bikes to sell!

Everyone is buying them without a trade.

We need bikes now!!!

I have a 96 Hornet 250 that will be leaving me in a few months ........ you got a nice R6 there for me :innocent:

[Crasherfromwayback]

I have a 96 Hornet 250 that will be leaving me in a few months ........ you got a nice R6 there for me :innocent:

I'd love it mate...but alas, I have no R6's. Cut you a mean deal on a new GSXR6 hundy though!

[nzmikey]

I'd love it mate...but alas, I have no R6's. Cut you a mean deal on a new GSXR6 hundy though!

I will be down in the 04 in mid Feb I may have to come have a look

[DMNTD]

I'd love it mate...but alas, I have no R6's. Cut you a mean deal on a new GSXR6 hundy though!

...better road bike anyway

[Crasherfromwayback]

I will be down in the 04 in mid Feb I may have to come have a look

Make sure you give me a shout when you do, I'll have a nice coffee waiting for ya. :innocent:

Pete

[nzspokes]

I have a 96 Hornet 250 that will be leaving me in a few months ........ you got a nice R6 there for me :innocent:

Are you getting another bike with pink handlebars?

[Sliver]

We're having a tough time of a very different sort at the mo. We're quickly running out of bikes to sell!

Everyone is buying them without a trade.

We need bikes now!!!


Same problem in the car industry at the moment...We are down from 75-85 used cars to 27, its almost impossable to buy good stock

[James Deuce]

What makes you think they EVER had it good?

[willytheekid]

.......I'll have a nice coffee waiting for ya. :innocent:
Pete

ITS A....TRAP??

http://cheezcomixed.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/129156868935063852.jpg


all jokes aside...Pete:love: will sort ya out with a good deal on a bike...but the coffee :sick: (its world famous in NZ...for all the wrong reasons lol)

...don't drink this mans coffee!:laugh:


Hope all is well up there in wellys mate & you had a great xmas/newyear :love:

[actungbaby]

Well i seen vfr 120 brand new for 14 grand and like 22 grand price
we did have laws here that u have 1/3 deposit on new bikes changed alot over the years not sure policy know

But think encommy i geneartl down so there hobby market almost so yeah bound to be tougher i think spares for bikes i been
Told year ago or so where doing well people doing up older bikes ? l know i have been with mixed results namly still no going bike
And i brought 3 of trademe so far

At this point am about to say hell with buy working cbr 125 3,300 but hay i have bike that working and cheap to run
great around town too . andt get side jobs doing pizza delivery on one and whouldint use up what get a pizza on fuel hehe:shit:


So If you really want a new bike, you can walk into a dealership and tick up a bike, as long as you meet the lending criteria, but the lending criteria, and APR are still pretty steep, which leads me to believe they arnt doing to bad.

I was in england 12 years ago, and suzuki dealerships had a ZERO APR on new bikes, what a deal.

[DMNTD]

Same problem in the car industry at the moment...We are down from 75-85 used cars to 27, its almost impossible to buy good stock

Interesting, we're having no issues with sales or gaining top quality stock.

[onearmedbandit]

Same problem in the car industry at the moment...We are down from 75-85 used cars to 27, its almost impossable to buy good stock


Interesting, we're having no issues with sales or gaining top quality stock.

Sales are a bit quiet here in ChCh as well. One factor in not being able to get top quality stock is the change in import laws. We've stocked up as much as possible (larger yard with 280+ cars on the books) but it's going to get tougher soon.

[DMNTD]

Sales are a bit quiet here in ChCh as well. One factor in not being able to get top quality stock is the change in import laws. We've stocked up as much as possible (larger yard with 280+ cars on the books) but it's going to get tougher soon.

Understood, our stock is made up of 90% new, 10% pre-loved so the new laws aren't affecting us.
It also helps that I can sell out of other yards too (Sime Darby)

[nzmikey]

ITS A....TRAP??

all jokes aside...Pete:love: will sort ya out with a good deal on a bike...but the coffee :sick: (its world famous in NZ...for all the wrong reasons lol)

...don't drink this mans coffee!:laugh:

Yeah I have heard this through the grape vine of gossip around here :laugh:

[nzmikey]

Does anyone know what happend to them ? I just drove past on the motorway & glanced out the window & WTF the bikes are gone the shop looks like it has closed down, signs are down merch is gone :shit: I was in there only the other week dribbling .

Sad to see another go :bye:

[nzmikey]

Are you getting another bike with pink handlebars?

THEY ARE RED ........ the a anodising has faded :finger:
lol

sheesh the nerve of some people

[willytheekid]

Yeah I have heard this through the grape vine of gossip around here :laugh:

Tis true!...had a mate go up to see pete (just to LOOK at bikes)...after two of petes "coffees"...he came back wearing a tasseled jacket and riding a new harley!! :blink::facepalm:

I don't know WHAT pete puts in his coffee...it may taste like shit but it sure does sell bikes :laugh:

Hope you find a good replacment bike mate....oh, and happy newyear and all that :niceone:

[White trash]

Well i seen vfr 120 brand new for 14 grand and like 22 grand price
we did have laws here that u have 1/3 deposit on new bikes changed alot over the years not sure policy know

But think encommy i geneartl down so there hobby market almost so yeah bound to be tougher i think spares for bikes i been
Told year ago or so where doing well people doing up older bikes ? l know i have been with mixed results namly still no going bike
And i brought 3 of trademe so far

At this point am about to say hell with buy working cbr 125 3,300 but hay i have bike that working and cheap to run
great around town too . andt get side jobs doing pizza delivery on one and whouldint use up what get a pizza on fuel hehe:shit:

Ahhhh, what?

[nzspokes]

Does anyone know what happend to them ? I just drove past on the motorway & glanced out the window & WTF the bikes are gone the shop looks like it has closed down, signs are down merch is gone :shit: I was in there only the other week dribbling .

Sad to see another go :bye:

I think they just moved to barrys point rd.

[nzmikey]

I think they just moved to barrys point rd.

..............:woohoo:

[DMNTD]

..............:woohoo:

25 Barrys Point Rd in fact...off to catch up with them today

[HenryDorsetCase]

Tis true!...had a mate go up to see pete (just to LOOK at bikes)...after two of petes "coffees"...he came back wearing a tasseled jacket and riding a new harley!! :blink::facepalm:

I don't know WHAT pete puts in his coffee...it may taste like shit but it sure does sell bikes :laugh:

Hope you find a good replacment bike mate....oh, and happy newyear and all that :niceone:

Buy a new bike or I will MAKE YOU DRINK MORE COFFEE.... easier to just buy the damn bike.....

[jafar]

Buy a new bike or I will MAKE YOU DRINK MORE COFFEE.... easier to just buy the damn bike.....

but tassles :sick:

[scott411]

So If you really want a new bike, you can walk into a dealership and tick up a bike, as long as you meet the lending criteria, but the lending criteria, and APR are still pretty steep, which leads me to believe they arnt doing to bad.

I was in england 12 years ago, and suzuki dealerships had a ZERO APR on new bikes, what a deal.

in the 1st question, yes it is still hard out there, very hard on the road bike dealers especially, but the good ones are still going alright, been another round of shop closures and receiverships as well, Euro and US bikes are doing better than most due to a good exchange rate for their importers, where the yen is still very strong hurting the jap bikes, (why the pricing between the two is much closer than it has ever been), the latest new rego figures which i saw (from november) shows the new rego's down to nearly a quarter of what they were for the same month in 08.

as for your question on teh finance, the dealers, or the distributors pay the finance rate for those 0% deals, and after the credit crunch it has been much harder to get the finance companies to do these deals,

[pritch]

and after the credit crunch it has been much harder to get the finance companies to do these deals,

And there's a lot less finance companies around. :whistle:

[FROSTY]

Same problem in the car industry at the moment...We are down from 75-85 used cars to 27, its almost impossable to buy good stock
What product are you selling? I'm having no problems with sales or with sourcing grade 4 or 4.5 product locally or ex Japan.
Slowish week this week with nicer weather and school hols but still up a couple or three on this time last year

[Sliver]

What product are you selling? I'm having no problems with sales or with sourcing grade 4 or 4.5 product locally or ex Japan.
Slowish week this week with nicer weather and school hols but still up a couple or three on this time last year

We are New mitsubishi and used, We try and stay away from imports and no longer use a importer as the prices for the japan imports got out of control.

We have had a great week, i sold 7 on saturday (which is a pb for me in keeping in mind im in Dunedin),

[Jezxa]

Same problem in the car industry at the moment...We are down from 75-85 used cars to 27, its almost impossable to buy good stock


We are New mitsubishi and used

I think I've found your problem :whistle:

[Edbear]

I think I've found your problem :whistle:

That's a bit cheeky...:laugh:

Latest downgrading of most Euro countries plus the US will keep our dollar high by the looks of it so great for importers!

[Sliver]

I think I've found your problem :whistle:

That coming from a guy that rides a 250 hyosung :nya:

[cave weta]

Well heres ya figures....

on road sales are taken from registration figures and split into catagories

Off road sales are taken by surveying importers and distributors

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don't know how accurate all this is though because last year FORZA sold 416 bikes in NZ and they are not even mentioned despite having been in the market for 6 years now...

If total off road 2 wheeler sales was 6536 and Forza sold 416 bikes what percentage is that?

[Jezxa]

That coming from a guy that rides a 250 hyosung :nya:

Yeah but I'm not trying to sell used Hyosungs :D :innocent:

[DMNTD]

Yeah but I'm not trying to sell used Hyosungs :D :innocent:

Easy as pie! Plenty of ... people around