Training opportunities In Christchurch

[rastuscat]

ACC has opened up cheap motorcycle training opportunities in Christchurch. What used to cost quite a lot now only costs $50. ACC is paying the rest !!

You can approach any of these three providers:

Duncan Seed
http://www.2drivesafe.com/

Mike Flowers
http://www.motorcycleschool.co.nz/

Dan Ornsby
http://www.motorcycletraining.co.nz/

Book a course through them, and pay only $50. These courses can include whole day instruction with a low ratio of riders to trainers.

If you pay ACC levies by registering your bike, there is no better way of getting your money back than benefiting from heavily subsidized training, which might actually save your skin.

Limited opportunities exist, as there is only so much ACC funding, so get in touch with one of the schools and book your training.

Of course, if you already are orsum you won't need training. This is KB, after all.

Rastus

[Brian407]

Go with Dan. Top bloke, and a decent F3 racer as well.

[rastuscat]

Go with Dan. Top bloke, and a decent F3 racer as well.

Yeah, happy with Dan. Thing is, Mike and Duncan deliver great training too.

I hope somebody makes the most of this. It's really easy to sit and bitch about how the gubbermint does nothing about rider training. But quite often, training is available, but nobody goes and does it, coz they're already good riders.

As I see it, folk always think that others should go and get training, but don't do it themselves.

Harumph.

[riffer]

Harumph indeed. You know what would help rastuscat, is if there were obvious incentives for training. Y'see at the moment, the only incentives I've had to further train myself have been knowing that I'm doing something to avoid ending up under the wheels of another vehicle or off the road dead and not noticed for a couple of days.

I'd love to see extra training showing up as endorsements on my licence which I could use to offset insurance costs. Or ACC fees. Can't see it happening, but damn it would really get peoples' attention.

[SMOKEU]

I like the look of that advanced level course with Mainland driving school. It has 2 hours of road riding + a full day at Ruapuna. Win.

[Gremlin]

Jealous as hell.

Auckland (Tricia at Roadcraft School of Motoring) has a once off $100 subsidy, her normal course is $250 for 3 hours, so you buggers are getting a real good deal!

[Brian407]

I like the look of that advanced level course with Mainland driving school. It has 2 hours of road riding + a full day at Ruapuna. Win.

Just for you, DONT go with Dan. He can spot an idiot a mile off, so you wouldnt even get throught the gate at Ruapuna until you grew a brain. All of them can actually so you'd be fucked if you were only doing it to get on the track.

[rastuscat]

Harumph indeed. You know what would help rastuscat, is if there were obvious incentives for training. Y'see at the moment, the only incentives I've had to further train myself have been knowing that I'm doing something to avoid ending up under the wheels of another vehicle or off the road dead and not noticed for a couple of days.

Can't believe you see that as a minor incentive. To me I think the price of 12 cups of coffee is a small price to pay for some potentially skin saving training.

Thing with training, is that those who seek it have already shown a willingness to learn. They are inherently safer, due to their 'I don't know it all' attitude.

Still, like I said, folk generally think training is needed for everyone else. :Police:

[rastuscat]

Just for you, DONT go with Dan. He can spot an idiot a mile off, so you wouldnt even get throught the gate at Ruapuna.:bleh:

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[onearmedbandit]

Harumph indeed. You know what would help rastuscat, is if there were obvious incentives for training. Y'see at the moment, the only incentives I've had to further train myself have been knowing that I'm doing something to avoid ending up under the wheels of another vehicle or off the road dead and not noticed for a couple of days.

I'd love to see extra training showing up as endorsements on my licence which I could use to offset insurance costs. Or ACC fees. Can't see it happening, but damn it would really get peoples' attention.

With all due respest, go talk to your MP about this, not a front line officer who is only trying to help reduce the number of injuries and fatalities out there, something he no doubt sees more of than most of us.

I know I'd like to take advantage of it but most probably won't be able to.

[edit] I just re-read your post. You'd actually prefer saving a few dollars rather than improving your chances of survival?? You sir, need a better paying job. Or I've just been trolled.

[rastuscat]

Jealous as hell.

Auckland (Tricia at Roadcraft School of Motoring) has a once off $100 subsidy, her normal course is $250 for 3 hours, so you buggers are getting a real good deal!

I had a meeting with the local ACC injury prevention guy down here today. Nice bloke.

They have a budget for delivering training which they are keen to spend. They do a subsidy, have done all year. So few people have taken the training up that the budget is largely unspent. That's why they are hammering to empty the budget down here by the end of June, or the dosh will disappear back into a black hole.

It's hard to see the gubbermint taking money away from the ACC training delivery budgets tho, as it's a major feature in the Safer Journeys project.

Yo Gremlin, come down, do some training. I'll give you a bed, and you can fit some LEDs for me while you're here !!

[onearmedbandit]

I just had a quick look at the sites, wow this is a fantastic opportunity.

[onearmedbandit]

Just for you, DONT go with Dan. He can spot an idiot a mile off, so you wouldnt even get throught the gate at Ruapuna until you grew a brain. All of them can actually so you'd be fucked if you were only doing it to get on the track.

I shouldn't blow his cover, but he's actually a really down to earth guy, no ego to speak of regarding riding, and also likes to spend his time trolling.

If you met him you wouldn't know it was him.

[Brian407]

I shouldn't blow his cover, but he's actually a really down to earth guy, no ego to speak of regarding riding, and also likes to spend his time trolling.

If you met him you wouldn't know it was him.

If you're talking about Dan Ornsby, then I totally agree. One of the nicest and unassuming people I know, and his fathers a top bloke as well, but if you're talking about Smokeu then I'm not convinced. Avatars like his, and the general nature of most of his posts tell a different story.

[Gremlin]

Thing with training, is that those who seek it have already shown a willingness to learn. They are inherently safer, due to their 'I don't know it all' attitude.
See... there's the problem. A generalisation I know, but it's likely that those that need the training the most, are the ones least likely to seek it. As you say, those that admit they don't know it all spend more time assessing their riding (or having their riding assessed etc). So... the big question is, how do you get through to those that need it most? Some kind of "caught you in a way you'd receive a fine, however, attend the course and this (small fine, not dangerous driving etc) will be waived? Would they attend the course with a receptive mind to take in the helpful advice?


Yo Gremlin, come down, do some training. I'll give you a bed, and you can fit some LEDs for me while you're here !!
Oh dear... you don't read my blogs... I'm a gremlin... electrickery and I don't mix. I go to my mates, and we have an agreement I leave their bikes alone, and they'll help me out :lol:

Still, happy to help if you really want it, 24th Feb I'll be in Chch on a rest day before some riding on the weekend...

[onearmedbandit]

If you're talking about Dan Ornsby, then I totally agree. One of the nicest and unassuming people I know, and his fathers a top bloke as well, but if you're talking about Smokeu then I'm not convinced. Avatars like his, and the general nature of most of his posts tell a different story.

Well I'm sure you'll find that any instructor he chooses to go to will only be more than happy to help someone who for his age is so level headed about his riding. At his age I had only just got out of hospital with a paralysed arm because I thought I was the fastest thing out there on two wheels.

[SMOKEU]

Just for you, DONT go with Dan. He can spot an idiot a mile off, so you wouldnt even get throught the gate at Ruapuna until you grew a brain. All of them can actually so you'd be fucked if you were only doing it to get on the track.

I have ridden with a few KB members and those people will all say that I'm a fairly calm rider who doesn't push myself on the roads. I will admit that I do want to go on a track again, but the reason for that is because a race track is the safest place to learn new skills and improve my overall riding ability. Or would you prefer me to push my limits on the roads instead?

[helenoftroy]

I shouldn't blow his cover, but he's actually a really down to earth guy, no ego to speak of regarding riding, and also likes to spend his time trolling.

If you met him you wouldn't know it was him.

Haahaa !! totally agree with you....

SMOKEU is just a pussycat in trolls clothing !:msn-wink:

[riffer]

Can't believe you see that as a minor incentive.


You'd actually prefer saving a few dollars rather than improving your chances of survival?? You sir, need a better paying job. Or I've just been trolled.

Hmm. Appears I really didn't think too well when I posted this one. I'm a great fan of training; done a bit myself. I'ts not about the money. I'd actually like to see recognition of extra training on people's licences, and backed up with insurance incentives.

Kind of like a no-claims bonus thing. I think it would attract more people to training. I was just in a really cynical mood when I posted my previous remarks.

I also like the idea of a further gradation on motorcycle and driver licenses - i.e Learner, Restricted, Full, Advanced. And the Advanced licence dealt with kw/tonne and/or gross kerb weight limits. It concerns me that people can spend 20 years away from motorcycling and jump straight back on a big cruiser or even a Bandit 1250 like mine, when they haven't ridden in 20 years and the last bike they had was a GSX400 or CB350.

The money wasn't more important to me than the learning. I'm sorry I gave that impression.

[Flip]

SMOKEU is such a sweet young man.