Oops the police are so busted....

[crashe]

Tonight on the news (21/6/05) the police have been busted good and proper.

Police Cars, speed camera vehicles, undercover cars, police m/bikes, dog handler vehicles all around New Zealand have been driven around on our roads and not been up to WOF standard.

Nope, its not all the police vehicles, but about 100 odd of them.
Some were being driven around for 2 months without a WOF.

The police are rushing around and checking up on all their vehicles...

Now will they the drivers of said vehicles get ticketed for not having a vehicle up to WOF standard? After all it is up to the person driving the vehicle to make sure when they get in the vehice that it is up to WOF standard.

Now I wonder how many of these cars were used in police chases, or when the police stopped and handed out tickets for no WOF to people....

Oh dear, the shame of it all for the police....

(Not taking the piss out of the KB bikers who are in the police force.)

[sels1]

Isnt it ironic...dont you think?

[marty]

no surprises here - there's still a couple of VP commodores mooching about - i remember driving one that had 250000ks on the clock, and was still a primary front-line car. with a 6 month WOF (instead of 12 like the newer cars) and service garages being contracted out instead of based in the station basement, it is no wonder some cars miss their WOF date. i have seen 1/2 dozen patrol cars get pink stickered in an audit once. - fraying seat belts, crash damage, fucked brakes, ball joints, suspension.

still though, when there's 1/2 the station's front line fleet in the basement crashed/rammed/pink stickered and no money to pay for repairs, something has got to be used to get cops out on the street

[hXc]

Serves them right bloody pigs!(No offence to any KB policemen/women out there)

[crashe]

Isnt it ironic...dont you think?

Yeah, I couldnt believe that there is so many police vehicles not up to WOF standard...

Now I wonder if they are now checking all the police cars that have crashed in chases.... as over the years many police cars have crashed.

[SuperDave]

HA HA. I will remember to check that the WOF and Rego are up to date on the next cop that decides to pull me over.

[Riff Raff]

It is our responsibility and part of our DAILY checks and Standard Operating Procedures to ensure our vehicles are all current.
(must check the bike in the morning)
I got to work one day to find we had a pool vehicle with expired registration. We refused to drive it until they had it sorted (unless there was an emergency), and spent a lovely hour and a half with our feet up waiting for it to be done. With the daily checks that we do, very few trucks slip through the nets now - unless someone has been lazy and not done them properly - then they get their asses kicked.

[placidfemme]

Thats just dodgy... cops of all people should be driving 100% safe (and legal) vehicles... Cops do high speeds and evasive (Sp) driving if anything they need to be protected, because as stated before they have accidents too...

Very disapointing... I think the cops do an ok job, but latley they've only been getting bad news and a bad image...

[Lou Girardin]

Well the good thing is that the cops can fill their quota without leaving their carpark.
But really, what's next? No sooner than they try to bury one scandal, another one pops up. Apart from all the drivers being ticketed, I hope they sack the fleet managers (if any), maintenance and legality are the first priorities in running a fleet.
I've always thought that patrol cars should be subject to a COF not a WOF due to their use in high speed situations.
BTW How many nails are needed in Robinsons coffin before he cries enough?

[SPman]

Very disapointing... I think the cops do an ok job, but latley they've only been getting bad news and a bad image...

Well....the majority at the coal face, do!

[placidfemme]

What do you mean by COF?

[Motu]

There have always been exemptions from various WoF and CoF regulations for vehicles on ''Her Magisties Sevice'',mainly for Armed Services vehicles.

CoF is a Certificate of Fitness,used for comercial vehicles and those carrying passengers,also rental cars,and motorcycles.Often said to be tougher than a WoF,but that's a misconception,they are looking at things a WoF inspector isn't allowd to check,some things specific to the use of the vehicle.When I looked after a rental fleet the CoF inspector was hot on what he called ''presentation'' - so he would make me repaint a car because the paint on the boot lid was faded.

Is this election year or something?????

[Sniper]

Everyone makes a mistake once in a while. Its just a pity that these guys are law enforcement officers that the flak really hits the fan

[bugjuice]

I haven't been done for anything on my car (I'm a good boy, and keep my toys up to scratch), but for those who have been done, think they could call a bluff and say if they have to pay the fine, then so does the cop, cos their car wasn't WOF'd either..??

Must say tho, very slack of the cops. Of all the people to set an example and standards, and they can't achieve it themselves..?? tut tut..

[placidfemme]

Must say tho, very slack of the cops. Of all the people to set an example and standards, and they can't achieve it themselves..?? tut tut..

I don't think it's 100% the actually police officers fault... they're told what to do and have to do it... but then again they could refuse to get into an illegal vehicle... but what would the reprocussions (sp) be?

Maybe one of the cops on here could clarify this... if they refused to get into a non road legal police car (or bike) what would happen?

[skidz]

It's up to the driver at the start of his shift to check the car over and should notice if the warrant or rego is about to run out. We as truck drivers have to check everything including road users or we get a fine as well as the company.

[MSTRS]

My calculations lead me to believe the Helen could be in line for a $33400 windfall.

[ManDownUnder]

Serves them right bloody pigs!(No offence to any KB policemen/women out there)

Not being a pig myself (or being in the police force) - I'd prefer to to see the Police sufficiently equipped to do a good job, with good gear.

If some prat plows into me and they're at fault, I don't want the idiot to be able to give the cop a hard time for not being legal etc. I'd like to see them saying yes sir no sir three bags full sir.

Give 'em more money - lets take it from the DPB budget... from those nice ladies unable/unwilling to name the daddy....

edit Please note I believe the DPB is only one of the budgets that ought to be targetted... and note my clarifications in the next post I made below in response to Crashe's.

[crashe]

Give 'em more money - lets take it from the DPB budget... from those nice ladies unable/unwilling to name the daddy....

Think about this one a tad better MDU.
Some of these nice ladies may have been raped etc and so therefore cant name the 'daddy'.

Some of these 'Daddies' give the nice ladies the wrong name.

Sure there maybe a few who refuse to name the 'daddy', and because of that they actually get less in the hand than those who name the 'daddy'.

So the nice ladies are penerlised (sp) right at the start.

and now back to the topic in hand.

[Flyingpony]

They must not be reading their mail. The system sends you reminders in the mail that your rego or WOF are about the expire.

[placidfemme]

They must not be reading their mail. The system sends you reminders in the mail that your rego or WOF are about the expire.

Thats a good point... maybe they're just keeping costs down and thought they wouldn't get caught

[Lou Girardin]

I don't think it's 100% the actually police officers fault... they're told what to do and have to do it... but then again they could refuse to get into an illegal vehicle... but what would the reprocussions (sp) be?

Maybe one of the cops on here could clarify this... if they refused to get into a non road legal police car (or bike) what would happen?

Absolutely nothing. No one can be required to perform an illegal act as part of their employment.

[ManDownUnder]

Think about this one a tad better MDU.
Some of these nice ladies may have been raped etc and so therefore cant name the 'daddy'.
Agreed.. and when the little critter (Daddy) get's tracked down part of the punishment can be the sale of assets to support his child.


Some of these 'Daddies' give the nice ladies the wrong name. Yup - get the (better equipped) Police onto them. They get found, they have to pay we all win


Sure there maybe a few who refuse to name the 'daddy', and because of that they actually get less in the hand than those who name the 'daddy'. As it should be - I understand that's a choice they make and if so - it's fine with me - ok


So the nice ladies are penerlised (sp) right at the start. I guess this is the last group you're referring to - and if so, you're right - but it's at their choice.


and now back to the topic in hand.
okie dokes.

The problem I can see is where the daddy is named and skips off to another country, or the rapist is never found - there will be exceptional circumstances (as with anything) and I don't expect women or children to be penalised in their very time of need. That's lunacy. But that would be easily "tested' through her participation in trying to name and/or find the guy in question.

anyway - as you say - back to the topic at hand
MDU

[marty]

lou's right. that's why i've 'seen' pink stickered police vehicles

[Lou Girardin]

lou's right. that's why i've 'seen' pink stickered police vehicles

That's the second time you've said I'm right. If you're not careful you'll be agreeing with other things I say. Just like the old salesmans trick. :devil2:

[ManDownUnder]

I haven't been done for anything on my car (I'm a good boy, and keep my toys up to scratch), but for those who have been done, think they could call a bluff and say if they have to pay the fine, then so does the cop, cos their car wasn't WOF'd either..??

Must say tho, very slack of the cops. Of all the people to set an example and standards, and they can't achieve it themselves..?? tut tut..

Yeah but IF the cops aren't rego'd or Wof (or whatever) they should never have been on the road, therefore they were never entitled to ask you to pull over therefore you dont GET that ticket...

I understand that's the way it works (which is BS in my mind anyway - you're both in the wrong... BOTH of you get pinged..)

Anyhoo - rant over

[ManDownUnder]

That's the second time you've said I'm right. If you're not careful you'll be agreeing with other things I say. Just like the old salesmans trick. :devil2:

:rofl: "I'd say $14,599 is a bloody good price for that thing - especially if I throw in an oil change and tank of gas - whaddy'a reckon?"

:ride: "...errr yes..."

[WINJA]

MAYBE THE POLICE SHOULD GIVE TICKETS TO ALL THE DRIVERS OF THE OFFENDING VEHICLES , LAWS THE LAW AND THE ONUS IS ON THE DRIVER IF THE INDIVIDUAL COPS REFUSED TO DRIVE AN UNREGISTERED OR UNWARRENTED
VEHICLE NO ACTION CAN BE TAKEN AGAINST THEM , FUCKEN PIGS THIS REALLY IS A DOUBLE STANDARD AND MAKES A MOCKERY OF ALL THE SAFETY BULLSHIT WE GO THRU

[Sensei]

What about my mate that got a Ticket coming home . If the car had no Warrant he shouldn't have to pay it right !!! as the car should not have been on the road so would not have been there to write out the ticket .
Would this be right ?? He is asking the Police to prove that the car was road legal . hope he gets off :Punk:

[ManDownUnder]

What about my mate that got a Ticket coming home . If the car had no Warrant he shouldn't have to pay it right !!! as the car should not have been on the road so would not have been there to write out the ticket .
Would this be right ?? He is asking the Police to prove that the car was road legal . hope he gets off :Punk:

That's the way I understand it... but I'm open to correction on that!
MDU