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spinnanz
12th January 2012, 20:48
Is it a bike or is it a scooter? Just bought this to replace my Suzuki FX125 scooter (for sale, anyone?). I saw this on TM and had to have it! It's a 2005 Gilera DNA180 before anyone asks!

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Sable
13th January 2012, 20:52
It's a motorcycle with a CVT transmission. Scooter vs motorcycle is defined mainly by where your feet go.

spinnanz
13th January 2012, 21:33
so whats a honda c50 or suzuki fx125 then?

Sable
13th January 2012, 21:58
They are underbones which are somewhere in between the two. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underbone

Edbear
13th January 2012, 22:20
They got rave reviews in overseas tests. Is it a hoot to ride?

EJK
13th January 2012, 22:21
Nice pair of wheels you got there :-)

spinnanz
14th January 2012, 12:49
They got rave reviews in overseas tests. Is it a hoot to ride?

I actually bought the DNA180 to replace my Suzuki FX125 which was stolen, I got it back though, a month after I bought the DNA!

It's quite good to ride, nice and smooth etc and handles better than a traditional scooter, but not as good as a real bike. Also same as a real bike, a lot of weight is on your wrists so commuting slowly through town may not be too much fun.

Acceleration for a twist and go is good, far quicker of the mark than my twist and go Suzuki SJ125 and my workmates Suzuki AN125. Topped out I managed to hit 118kph@10,000rpm. I notice that the current model twist and go Gileara, Vespa and Piaggio use the same engines.

I think performance-wise it's close to the FX125 which is manual and 5 speed. Going for a ride next weekend with a mate with both the FX and the DNA so will get a good comparison then.

pros and cons so far,

The good

looks good
helmet storage in fake petrol tank
good brakes
easy to ride
good lights
lots of gauges, water temp/speed/rpm

The bad

engine is only single cam, sounds like a lawn mower
looks like it should go faster than it does
speed on the digital speedo hard to read
no kick start (elec only on the 4 stroke versions)
cant open helmet storage if the steering is locked (turned)

Basically I think its an awsome looking little twist and go run about, which is just as practical and a normal scooter with its storage in the fake fuel tank. One thing I am a little let down on is fuel consumption, it uses 4L per 100km on a mix of 1/3 open road, and 2/3 city riding, cant cpmplain though, my car uses 14.5L for the same distance :)

speedpro
14th January 2012, 20:49
It's a 4-stroke? That sucks. Though . . . the motor is probably the same in a whole pile of other scooters and there'll be a lot of good stuff for them available cheap from Taiwan.

I hate digital speedos. Analogue is far easier to read at a glance.

I do like the look of them though.

spinnanz
14th January 2012, 21:42
It's a 4-stroke? That sucks. Though . . . the motor is probably the same in a whole pile of other scooters and there'll be a lot of good stuff for them available cheap from Taiwan.

I hate digital speedos. Analogue is far easier to read at a glance.

I do like the look of them though.

Yeah 4 stroke on the 125 and 180cc DNA's. The 50cc version is 2 stroke and evidently good for 100kph. From what I can see, a 2 stoke 180cc engine from a Gilera Runner SP bolts in, they are good for 140kph and 0-100 in around 6 seconds.

What I'd really like, more than the DNA is an RG150 engine for my FX125, those engines are good for 180kph in the heavier RG150 frame!

Macontour
14th January 2012, 21:54
Really nice looking bike!! Only the small tires make it look small.

Tigadee
19th January 2012, 20:31
Very nice looking 'bike'!

KiwiDNA
24th January 2012, 21:00
I have one of these great bikes - owned for about 12 months and I've put 12000km's on it.

So far I've replaced the fork seals with enduro seals for a Marzocchi 888 MTB fork (the same 35mm stanctions) and the springs from a set of rock shox boxxers. Twin Air air filter and upped the jet one size. Great bike to ride - used to commute to work (50km per day). I can get 131 km/h on the motorway and average 3.6l per 100km's.

Brett

spinnanz
24th January 2012, 21:45
I have one of these great bikes - owned for about 12 months and I've put 12000km's on it.

So far I've replaced the fork seals with enduro seals for a Marzocchi 888 MTB fork (the same 35mm stanctions) and the springs from a set of rock shox boxxers. Twin Air air filter and upped the jet one size. Great bike to ride - used to commute to work (50km per day). I can get 131 km/h on the motorway and average 3.6l per 100km's.

Brett

hey, cheers for the info, I noticed when I got mine thet the fork seals would need doing in the near future. You have a place to contact for them?

Im hoping mines a little more reliable now, mine had a few probs when I got it, related to bad elec contacts on the coil (the rain didnt help there), a dodgle vacuum fuel tap and a few perished vacuum lines etc. I think the max i get is 120kph so its prob due a new drive belt too, just coming up 12,000km on the clock now

KiwiDNA
25th January 2012, 21:23
http://dougal.co.nz/shockcraft.co.nz/index.html for the fork seals - use 35mm ones for the 888 fork.

I also changed the fork oil to 7.5 wt instead of 10 to speed it up and reduce the ramping.

Another thing is I readjusted the valve clearance when I first got it as they were way out - this made a huge difference to power