DIY panniers. What to use?

[jex_the_bug]

hi,
wont to make some Panniers for my bike as i cant aford a proper set but dont know what to use. been thinking of arm ammo boxes but cant find any in new zealand. any one knows what i could get somthing that may work? i can make the frames and any thing else i need to but just need a box to start with.

[Eddieb]

hi,
wont to make some Panniers for my bike as i cant aford a proper set but dont know what to use. been thinking of arm ammo boxes but cant find any in new zealand. any one knows what i could get somthing that may work? i can make the frames and any thing else i need to but just need a box to start with.

20 litre fuel containers. Google it.

[Motu]

They have some pretend Pelican boxes at Jaycar - not cheap at about $160 each, but much cheaper than a real Pelican.

[Sable]

Ammo crates. Oh yeah.

[Brainflex]

Ammo boxes? try www.Kiwidisposals.co.nz

[Ocean1]

Someone here posted pics of a very cute set made from toilet cisterns.

Perfect shape, cheap, first look just left you thinking something was a little wrong but you couldn't quite put your finger on it...

[Drew]

Someone here posted pics of a very cute set made from toilet cisterns.

Perfect shape, cheap, first look just left you thinking something was a little wrong but you couldn't quite put your finger on it...

Yip, I've seen a couple sets made from these.

Easily made water tight, light as, and free most the time if you know a plumber.

[Eddieb]

20 litre fuel containers. Google it.

I found a couple of links on these

http://www.advrider.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=201961&stc=1&d=1236901153

This one has a few how to make them pics.

http://onedaytech.blogspot.com/2011/03/outfitting-dr650se.html

[Waihou Thumper]

Nice, but he didn't explain how he sealed the tops of the containers? it doesn't look like he used the leftovers anyway.
I wonder if they were watertight?
I like the concept, but sometimes wonder if having things hanging over the side like that actually hinders travel rather than helps?
brackets, fastenings, vibration and knocks etc...
Barring, soft bag options me thinks...bungy, straps and the ability to load up or be lighter depending on bag size.
I still think travel light, have it on top and a waterproof roll bag that compresses is the way to go.
Yes, Wolfman bags etc look good - soft bags. plenty of storage and can compress like the roll bag idea.

Have to get to 2000 posts today :)

[jex_the_bug]

I found a couple of links on these

http://www.advrider.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=201961&stc=1&d=1236901153

This one has a few how to make them pics.

http://onedaytech.blogspot.com/2011/03/outfitting-dr650se.html


like the look of these. i was thinking of useing the metal fule cans as i can weld them but the plastic one would be lighter.

[vegeman]

Nice, but he didn't explain how he sealed the tops of the containers? it doesn't look like he used the leftovers anyway.
I wonder if they were watertight?
I like the concept, but sometimes wonder if having things hanging over the side like that actually hinders travel rather than helps?
brackets, fastenings, vibration and knocks etc...
Barring, soft bag options me thinks...bungy, straps and the ability to load up or be lighter depending on bag size.
I still think travel light, have it on top and a waterproof roll bag that compresses is the way to go.
Yes, Wolfman bags etc look good - soft bags. plenty of storage and can compress like the roll bag idea.

Have to get to 2000 posts today :)

I agree with the soft bag option with waterproof bags inside. Unless you really need the security of hard bags, then soft is great. lighter, simpy lift off and take inside like your classic cowboy. From the writer of Dreaming of Jupiter/Jupiters Travels, who was the original pioneers who travelled the world twice...decided that after a gozillion miles, soft bags where better.

here's how my old XR was setup255158

All I had to engineer was simple aluminum bars to go from the rear carry handles to the pillion pegs...easy and cheap.

Here is my 690 done as well255160

[Eddieb]

All I had to engineer was simple aluminum bars to go from the rear carry handles to the pillion pegs...easy and cheap.

Here is my 690 done as well255160


[THREAD HIJACK]

I've seen you go down the Hutt motorway the last few weekday mornings and stared in jealousy as I'm stuck in the car. Dammit I want to be riding again!

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[Monstaman]

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Same :weep:

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This is my innermost self ...

nek minnit

i gotta screw :eek:

So back to your queries, we are using Kincrome cases, 32 litre, slim, lite, watertight and lockable, some second hand cases from tardme may be worth looking at.

[Eddieb]

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Same :weep:

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This is my innermost self ...

nek minnit

i gotta screw :eek:

So back to your queries, we are using Kincrome cases, 32 litre, slim, lite, watertight and lockable, some second hand cases from tardme may be worth looking at.


How much were the Kincromes?

I was looking at them on the net a year or so ago but couldn't find anyone locally that stocked them or could give me a price.

[clint640]

I looked into plastic cases a while back for a top box (I like soft side bags too) IIRC genuine Pelicans could be landed ex USA for about the price of the Kincrome ones here. The NZ Pelican importers are totally taking the piss with their prices.

Cheers
Clint

[Waihou Thumper]

Jaycar has the Kincrome boxes and they aren't cheap. $149 and upwards for approx 350mm size....
I concur with Clint, Pelicans from USA.
It seems a lot of NZ distributors are taking the piss....
Dollar rises, prices stay high. They say it is 'hedging':)

[Monstaman]

How much were the Kincromes?

I was looking at them on the net a year or so ago but couldn't find anyone locally that stocked them or could give me a price.

Well Paul kindly sponsored us and donated our boxes so he sells them....guess we better give him a plug for them for his gift

http://www.delis.co.nz/safe-case-extra-large-xidp315291.html

His site lists them at 3.98 kg each but we weighed ours with accurate digital scales and they weight 3.40 kg each, they are sealed and they also have the advantage of one full length hinge where Pelican have two separate hinges.

Ours are the Extra large 32 L capacity, we are using one for a top box and one each side for panniers.

We have these as well, mount on the front guard under the headlight, use them for chain links, front sprocket, spare bearing etc

http://www.delis.co.nz/safe-case-small-xidp316786.html

Go here for a perve, will update more stuff tomorrow

http://www.twomotokiwis.com/search/label/rack?%E5%87%86%E5%A4%87?%0Amax-results=100

http://www.twomotokiwis.com/search/label/gear?%0Amax-results=100

[Night Falcon]

I prefer hard cases so used pelicans, pretty tough boxes plus they provide some protection from leg sqwishing.

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[Madness]

I looked into plastic cases a while back for a top box (I like soft side bags too) IIRC genuine Pelicans could be landed ex USA for about the price of the Kincrome ones here. The NZ Pelican importers are totally taking the piss with their prices.

Cheers
Clint

PM Edbear on here. He has ties to Pelican with their torches, etc.

[Monstaman]

I looked into plastic cases a while back for a top box (I like soft side bags too) IIRC genuine Pelicans could be landed ex USA for about the price of the Kincrome ones here. The NZ Pelican importers are totally taking the piss with their prices.

Cheers
Clint

We looked hard at Pelican, the only thing they had better was top loaders but at their prices it was still gonna cost a bomb to get them here from the US, Import taxes, duty and GST was the killer.

[cave weta]

My lovely gave me a massive bum bag for Christmas and that gave me an idea.....
Ill make a massive bumbag for my bike!

Below is how it looks. it is 30 litres uses no fittings and stays where its meant to even when jumping the bike and sliding

I can carry Tent, sleeping bag, wet weather gear, change of clothes, first aid kit, tools, stove and cooking gear. it has lacing to collapse it down when 1/2 full, its made of seam welded heavy duty pvc
and Ill make you one for $120.00

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[Padmei]

My lovely gave me a massive bum bag for Christmas and that gave me an idea.....
Ill make a massive bumbag for my bike!

Below is how it looks. it is 30 litres uses no fittings and stays where its meant to even when jumping the bike and sliding

I can carry Tent, sleeping bag, wet weather gear, change of clothes, first aid kit, tools, stove and cooking gear. it has lacing to collapse it down when 1/2 full, its made of seam welded heavy duty pvc
and Ill make you one for $120.00

255287

Looks good - Very much like the Giant Loop. They seem to be the biz in oz. Good value.

[pete376403]

I got a couple of Craftech (rebranded Kinchrome) cases a few years ago from Bunnings Porirua, $99 each IIRC. These are one size down from the largest.

Have proven pretty crash proof so far, dont leak. If I got the larger ones I'd just carry more crap.

[NordieBoy]

Looks good - Very much like the Giant Loop. They seem to be the biz in oz. Good value.

This is the Giant Horseshoe.

[pete376403]

Blackwoods Protector (industrial and safety suppliers) have Kincrome medium and large safecases in their latest catalogue, $99 and $149 respectively.

http://www.blackwoodsprotector.co.nz/index.php/specials#/12/

[offrd]

My lovely gave me a massive bum bag for Christmas and that gave me an idea.....
Ill make a massive bumbag for my bike!

Below is how it looks. it is 30 litres uses no fittings and stays where its meant to even when jumping the bike and sliding

I can carry Tent, sleeping bag, wet weather gear, change of clothes, first aid kit, tools, stove and cooking gear. it has lacing to collapse it down when 1/2 full, its made of seam welded heavy duty pvc
and Ill make you one for $120.00

255287

Now that is a good idea!

Does it clip to the bike or strap on?
Zip entry?
Im guessing will need frames to keep it off the exhaust?

Whats your lead time?

[cave weta]

Now that is a good idea!

Does it clip to the bike or strap on?
Zip entry?
Im guessing will need frames to keep it off the exhaust?

Whats your lead time?

Its attached with 3 straps with side release buckles it has a 650mm zipper that goes all around the back. the zip is under a rainproof flap. here it is on my other bike which is much fatter.
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I cant make one just yet as its a short week and I have 3 big shade sails to get done but early next week no probs. - pick a colour

[Padmei]

Its attached with 3 straps with side release buckles it has a 650mm zipper that goes all around the back. the zip is under a rainproof flap. here it is on my other bike which is much fatter.
256858
I cant make one just yet as its a short week and I have 3 big shade sails to get done but early next week no probs. - pick a colour

Shit they look good. If i wasn't deadset on making my interpretation of some panniers I'd definitely be interested. I reckon if you made them & advertised them on trademe...

[cave weta]

Shit they look good. If i wasn't deadset on making my interpretation of some panniers I'd definitely be interested. I reckon if you made them & advertised them on trademe...

Done! http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=446740561&ed=true


I ve just finished the orange one for OFFRD its in the photos in the trade me advert on three of my bikes to show how interchangeable they are

[dino3310]

mighty fine product Stu, bloody good price too.
will start saving my penny's

[offrd]

Looking forward to getting this!

I have tried quite a few ways of packing the bike over the years and this is the exact thing i was looking for!

:first:

[.chris]

I have been thinking of upgrading my bikes luggage carry capacity. Now that I have the pannier racks that Clint kindly donated I feel I can add a bit more to my load since the tank is not the only thing taking the weight.

I currently use a Bags-Connect Cargobag (50l) (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/260259/images/LK-cargo-bag.jpg) and normally carry a drybag (35l squished to about 25l).

But all of this ends up sitting quite high on the bike which I don't like so much. I was thinking of adding some soft panniers to the bike. I am not sure I will still be able to use the Cargobag, but I figured with the panners at the right height, it will provide a good platform to add another drybag and have them better secured than I currently do.
So I current have
50+25 = 75l of storage.

New system would be more like
28l Panniers (expandable to 35, or was thinking these (http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/products/460-panniers/5967-givi_t449_soft_saddle_bags.aspx) or these (http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/products/460-panniers/5950-givi_t474_soft_saddle_bags.aspx))
40l drybag (givi)
35l drybag (beyond)
Giving me over 100l of storage.

The other option would be to add a top-box to the mix, I figure a 36l/46l one would be able to sit at the back with a dry bag in front of it with the panniers below.

Any opinions/thoughts on this type of setup?
Sorry for the thread hi-jack, at least it is semi on topic.

[offrd]

I have been thinking of upgrading my bikes luggage carry capacity. Now that I have the pannier racks that Clint kindly donated I feel I can add a bit more to my load since the tank is not the only thing taking the weight.

I currently use a Bags-Connect Cargobag (50l) (http://www.motorcyclenews.com/upload/260259/images/LK-cargo-bag.jpg) and normally carry a drybag (35l squished to about 25l).

But all of this ends up sitting quite high on the bike which I don't like so much. I was thinking of adding some soft panniers to the bike. I am not sure I will still be able to use the Cargobag, but I figured with the panners at the right height, it will provide a good platform to add another drybag and have them better secured than I currently do.
So I current have
50+25 = 75l of storage.

New system would be more like
28l Panniers (expandable to 35, or was thinking these (http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/products/460-panniers/5967-givi_t449_soft_saddle_bags.aspx) or these (http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/products/460-panniers/5950-givi_t474_soft_saddle_bags.aspx))
40l drybag (givi)
35l drybag (beyond)
Giving me over 100l of storage.

The other option would be to add a top-box to the mix, I figure a 36l/46l one would be able to sit at the back with a dry bag in front of it with the panniers below.

Any opinions/thoughts on this type of setup?
Sorry for the thread hi-jack, at least it is semi on topic.

Sounds like a Ford transit high roof LWB van would be perfect for you!

80L does me for TWO people for 3 days/nights....

Ha ha ha ha!

[.chris]

Sounds like a Ford transit high roof LWB van would be perfect for you!

80L does me for TWO people for 3 days/nights....

Ha ha ha ha!

Yeah, I tend to carry more than I need, but I never want to be in-need of something.
Part of my problem is my sleeping bag, it is from the 90's and is pretty large even when compressed. I do plan to get a new bag for winter, if I got an ultralite new bag, I could get rid of the large bag/extra blanket I carry (for summer anyway).

But you may be onto something about me taking too much gear.
For my next trip away I shall photograph everything that I am going to pack, then you guys can pick through it and judge me accordingly :psst:

[NordieBoy]

For my next trip away I shall photograph everything that I am going to pack, then you guys can pick through it and judge me accordingly :psst:

Why wait?

We can judge you right now...

[cooneyr]

Why wait?

We can judge you right now...

I reckon.

I've a alpine climbing background and think that a 80l pack is big (got that much stuff then your carrying too much). 40-60 is enough even with 30l of rope, harness and other bling.

I've currently using Wolfman E10 (http://www.wolfmanluggage.com/Enduro/enduro_saddle_bags.html) bags at 18l total and will add tent/bivi bag and bed roll on top as necessary. I can get sleeping bag, jandals, clothes (for 2 days), spare oil, toilet bag in wolfman with a little spare space and carry all my bike spares, tools, layer of poly pro and wet weather gear in a 30l backpack.

The EXC subframe does drive you to be very frugal with gear though!

Point is - maybe have another think about what you really need!

Cheers R

P.S. the Wolfman E10 rocks. Stayed in place perfectly on the DB1k with some fairly aggressive riding. Bags even handled a couple of lie downs in the dirt and a sideways slide into a fence with no problems at all. Very impressed.

[.chris]

Why wait?

We can judge you right now...

Of course you have judged me already huh. :bleh:
please note the lack of Slippers, evening dress suit, Italian Espresso machine.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0RxoejWTBNc/TziJrLKiyNI/AAAAAAAAK4Y/LXCdMU3I-Lw/s640/IMG_7245.jpg (https://picasaweb.google.com/data/media/api/user/110463954319256360507/albumid/5708463843168406865/photoid/5708463902516496594)
Tank Bag: Knife, Torch, Professional soft camera holder (read: homemade), spare gloves, first aid kit.
Cargobag: Sweedish Field cooker (contains cuterly, fuel for cooking), ktm tool-kit, toiletries, rain layer, pump for air-bed, tent, clothes (teex2, socksx3,jeans, windfleece, polyprop, undiesx2, togs, jandals, mini towel(forgot to include in pic))
Drybag: sleeping bag, army/scout blanket, kathmandu blow up single bed

That is what I would take away for a 2+ night trip and pretty much covers at week+ trip gear (with a bit of washing along the way). On top of that lot I usually carry food (couple of cans/meusli bars)

Looking at this pile of gear, seeing the size of the sleepingbag/extra blanket, makes me think I really should just invest in a new decent sleeping bag, as it would probably be smaller than the current one and negate the need for the blanket.

And this is what it all looks like on the bike.


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gvKquB-adIA/TziJsu2BSCI/AAAAAAAAK4g/t_0CDW1aA3c/s640/IMG_7246.jpg (https://picasaweb.google.com/data/media/api/user/110463954319256360507/albumid/5708463843168406865/photoid/5708463929273960482)



https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3RW2qarPN8A/TziJt9V-YeI/AAAAAAAAK4o/CF18WitIp54/s640/IMG_7247.jpg (https://picasaweb.google.com/data/media/api/user/110463954319256360507/albumid/5708463843168406865/photoid/5708463950345953762)

[Night Falcon]

I like the flexibilty of soft panniers, you can jamb odd shaped items in them easier (shoes, containers, toasters) hard cases are bit more restrictive BUT softies dont take the knocks as well. I use my panniers where ever possible as the lower weight is better plus I don't like those bags that takeup half ya seat, especially if ya riding technical tracks fully loaded (plus they're a pain with the 690's rear tank)

I am always rethinking what to take on trips. My sleeping bag takes up too much room but I don't do tents so that saves some space. The great thing about NZ is ya never more than a few hours away form a bed/motel which is far more civilised than bush wacking it in a tent.

I think your pretty sorted though Chris, far more onto it than me anyway.

[dino3310]

Of course you have judged me already huh. :bleh:
please note the lack of Slippers, evening dress suit, Italian Espresso machine.



ya got ya flip flops mate thats the evening wear covered:msn-wink:

[NordieBoy]

Of course you have judged me already huh. :bleh:
please note the lack of Slippers, evening dress suit, Italian Espresso machine.
I've been known to head off to a 3 day ride with my tent etc and have to stop off at my sisters and borrow a sleeping bag as I'd forgotten mine :o

[BMWST?]

if you want a small sleeping bag it has to be down...they pack up ridiculously small,but the downside is they must not get wet..You need a proper sized bag or compression bag for them and you can stuff the sleeping bag in.I had a mac pac sleeping bag that was very warm and it packed into a bag not much bigger than a shoe!It has somehow gone missing tho....:wacko:

[Eddieb]

I've just picked up a Exped Downmat 9LW for my touring setup. I do camping, but I don't do sleeping on the ground or on some wafer thin piece of foam.

The Exped Downmat range comes in 7 and 9cm thicknesses and the 9LW is the Longest, Widest and thickest size Exped do at 197cm x 65cm x 9cm inflated, but it packs down to 27cm x 16cm so fits in my Wolfman expedition bags with room to spare, the 9LW weighs in at 1240 grams.

The Downmat range also has a goose down filler so the 9LW is rated down to -38 degrees and has a R insulation value of 8.
My biggest problem when camping is often the cold coming up through the floor so hopefully this will resolve, or at least heavily offset that. The coldest I usually camp is at the Cold Kiwi rally each year which over the past few years has got down to about -8c overnight.
The Downmat range also have a built in pump mechanism so no huffing and puffing after a hard days riding or having to carry a pump.

They are not cheap but quality never is. Retail for the 9LW is $299 but Bivouac have a 30% off sale on Exped products at the moment so I saved $90 on it buying it this week. The 7cm thick models start at about $220.

More info: http://www.bivouac.co.nz/gear/camping-and-tramping/sleeping-mats/exped-downmat-9-pump-with-wide-valves.html

[clint640]

Just spotted these DeWalt cases in the Toolshed brochure, they look like they could be a good option for someone wanting to make some DIY hard panniers or for a top box.

http://www.thetoolshed.co.nz/index2/tabloids/image/?bypass=true&id=284

Cheers
Clint

[Oscar]

I have a set of these MTB Panniers:

http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/images/products/TGBGPN0TP_zoom.jpg

http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/TGBGPN0TP/title/tioga-tarpaulin-rear-pannier

Waterproof, rugged, on special for $89.99 and they went straight on my Givi mounts.

[Andy67]

I have a set of these MTB Panniers:





Waterproof, rugged, on special for $89.99 and they went straight on my Givi mounts.

They look good mate, I called T7 and the lady couldn't really explain the mounting system.

Are the bags joined together ? Or seperated ? Can they be attached individually to the rack and if so how ? My rack is tube and about a foot wide.

[Oscar]

They look good mate, I called T7 and the lady couldn't really explain the mounting system.

Are the bags joined together ? Or seperated ? Can they be attached individually to the rack and if so how ? My rack is tube and about a foot wide.

They are separate, and have a three point clip system to mount to a bicycle carrier (it's pictured in the online T7 ad). They just happen to fit the Givi bag mounts – I tie them together and add extra bungy’s for security. I’ll take some pics when I get home (feel free to remind me if I forgot).

[Eddieb]

Just spotted these DeWalt cases in the Toolshed brochure, they look like they could be a good option for someone wanting to make some DIY hard panniers or for a top box.

http://www.thetoolshed.co.nz/index2/tabloids/image/?bypass=true&id=284

Cheers
Clint

Thanks Clint, they might work really work for a project I'm working on.

[Shewolf]

tease....give us piccies


Thanks Clint, they might work really work for a project I'm working on.

[ADVGD]

Thanks Clint, they might work really work for a project I'm working on.

Hi Eddie, project eh? This weekend should see the completion of the long task of creating fiberglass plugs/moulds for adventure bike boxes. They will be nice looking units at a reasonable price, I'll be doing a few sets cheap to quickly recoup money outlaid for the setup process. I'll keep you in the loop and post some images of the final product soon.

Cheers

Josh

[Andy67]

They are separate, and have a three point clip system to mount to a bicycle carrier (it's pictured in the online T7 ad). They just happen to fit the Givi bag mounts – I tie them together and add extra bungy’s for security. I’ll take some pics when I get home (feel free to remind me if I forgot).

Thanks mate that would be awesome

[pomgolian]

I found some some bicycle soft bags from Katmandu on sale $50 a pair $ 10 dollar clips from mitre 10 and some tow rope strapping from work, local cobler sewed the straps to clips for $10 which means you can clip them through the DR rear grap handles and remove them easily , the lid or cover strap wraps through the wolfman pannier frames to stop them flapping outwards, only downside is water tightness, but some plastic bags or drybags does the trick. ? Next step wolfman drybags but $ 250 US plus freight maybe later. Chris $ 235 on sale katmandu ($ 500 retail) small pack sleeping bag duckdown i think -7 more more money :no:

[Andy67]

They are separate, and have a three point clip system to mount to a bicycle carrier (it's pictured in the online T7 ad). They just happen to fit the Givi bag mounts – I tie them together and add extra bungy’s for security. I’ll take some pics when I get home (feel free to remind me if I forgot).

And still............a little boy waits ........:weep:

[pomgolian]

I found some some bicycle soft bags from Katmandu on sale $50 a pair $ 10 dollar clips from mitre 10 and some tow rope strapping from work, local cobler sewed the straps to clips for $10 which means you can clip them through the DR rear grap handles and remove them easily , the lid or cover strap wraps through the wolfman pannier frames to stop them flapping outwards, only downside is water tightness, but some plastic bags or drybags does the trick. ? Next step wolfman drybags but $ 250 US plus freight maybe later. Chris $ 235 on sale katmandu ($ 500 retail) small pack sleeping bag duckdown i think -7 more more money :no:

some pics of panniers

[ADVGD]

hi,
wont to make some Panniers for my bike as i cant aford a proper set but dont know what to use. been thinking of arm ammo boxes but cant find any in new zealand. any one knows what i could get somthing that may work? i can make the frames and any thing else i need to but just need a box to start with.

If you are just looking for a quick fix to get out there riding, before l became proficient at spending stupid amounts of money setting up bikes, this was my very first setup:

http://www.adventureguide.co.nz/articles/12/24/west-coast-chamois-hunt.php

Tank bags: 2 X 10 litre British Army day packs (http://www.kiwidisposals.co.nz/packs/40-british-single-day-pack?keyword=day+pack)with the straps sewn together, lots of straps already in place to secure nicely around the frame. 20 litres of waterproof stroage for the grand sum of $29 ($14.50 each for the bags) plus mowing the lawns for my saddlery sewing sister to sew them together for me (thanks sis:) ). These two bags held all my sleeping gear (less sleeping bag) including tent, extra 3mX3m rainfly, exped down mat, mosquito net and travel pillow

Side pannier bags: 2 X 12.5 litre German Combat Bags (http://www.kiwidisposals.co.nz/packs/63-german-combat-bag) giving 25 litres of reasonably waterproof storage for $30. Easily strapped to the seat with some webbing and the buckle/clips on the bags. They did not need any framing

Not the prettiest, but very strong/robust and waterproof, if you need a low priced solution so you can get out there and get into it, these are a good option

[jellywrestler]

hi,
wont to make some Panniers for my bike as i cant aford a proper set but dont know what to use. been thinking of arm ammo boxes but cant find any in new zealand. any one knows what i could get somthing that may work? i can make the frames and any thing else i need to but just need a box to start with.

there's Blue Boxes in most gas station toilets, they work a treat, double up as chilly bins after a ride too as they're very waterproof

[NiggleC]

Make your own aluminium. I got the sheet cut to size, the angle, pop rivets and 4 tubes bathroom sealant from bunnings. The most expensive part were purchasing the givi racks as I don't have the facilities to make my own. I just copied this guys work, http://rtw.xtz660.googlepages.com/alluboxes settling on a slightly different size after doing some mock ups in cardboard.



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[alane]

I found some some bicycle soft bags from Katmandu on sale $50 a pair $ 10 dollar clips from mitre 10 and some tow rope strapping from work, local cobler sewed the straps to clips for $10 which means you can clip them through the DR rear grap handles and remove them easily , the lid or cover strap wraps through the wolfman pannier frames to stop them flapping outwards, only downside is water tightness, but some plastic bags or drybags does the trick. ? Next step wolfman drybags but $ 250 US plus freight maybe later. Chris $ 235 on sale katmandu ($ 500 retail) small pack sleeping bag duckdown i think -7 more more money :no:

Used a pair of them on the Super Sherpa for the Dusty Butt in 2011.
I pop rivited some straps on them & also had them clipped to the passenger footpegs. Kept them well foward so as the ballance would be better.
Held my lunch & stuff --no worries. :yes:

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[Crim]

Used a pair of them on the Super Sherpa for the Dusty Butt in 2011.

As did I - all worked well, couple dry bags inside and you'd be sorted!

Although I did do a bit of research on different options