View Full Version : We need a 7km straight road
Kickaha
22nd July 2005, 09:43
The Land Speed sidecar guys want to have a better bash at the world record to better the 272kmh they have already set and are looking for a nice straight billiard table smooth road 7km long, it also got to be flat with no uphill/downhill bits in it(they know it's not much of an ask)
the reason for the 7km is they want a 3km run up, they are timed over the next 1km and then they turn around and do it again the other direction
if anyone has anything they think may be suitable in their area then post it here or email them at flyingkiwi@snap.net.nz
MSTRS
22nd July 2005, 10:03
We jealously guard that info for fear that it will get into the wrong hands. :devil2: :whistle:
Mooch
22nd July 2005, 10:08
What's that long straight near Murupara where the cages set the NZ speed records (does anyone have a copy of NZ performance car with the 1300 hp Skyline doing an attemp about 3 years ago? )
skidz
22nd July 2005, 10:17
It would have to be north of Taupo as the lower North Island dosn't get the funding for long smooth billiard table roads.
clint640
22nd July 2005, 10:47
What's that long straight near Murupara where the cages set the NZ speed records (does anyone have a copy of NZ performance car with the 1300 hp Skyline doing an attemp about 3 years ago? )
That's Goudie Road. On the eastern side of the Reporoa valley between Rotorua & Taupo, comes off hwy 38. Let us know if they use it, I'll cruise over for a look.
Cheers
Clint
Beemer
22nd July 2005, 10:54
Shame they wouldn't let you use the Himitangi Straights!
Sparky Bills
22nd July 2005, 11:56
I will have to do some research to find some roads suitable. :devil2:
Sparky Bills
22nd July 2005, 11:58
Shame they wouldn't let you use the Himitangi Straights!
They would be perfect.
What bout the back road to Himatangi from Foxton??? (runs next to SH1)
Blackbird
22nd July 2005, 12:17
The Murapara straight is 7 km long. Really smooth too at Blackbird speeds if you get my drift :whistle:
Waylander
22nd July 2005, 12:21
There is a section of SH1 either desert road or near there that runs straight for quite a while. Took about 30 mins to cross it doin about 110-120 so should be long enough for ya. Wasn't smooth when I went through though cause of roadworks but that was a few months ago so who knows what it's like now.
Why 7kms? Does it accelerate that slow :spudwhat:
Beemer
22nd July 2005, 12:36
They would be perfect.
What bout the back road to Himatangi from Foxton??? (runs next to SH1)
I don't think you'd get a 7km flat bit - that road is pretty narrow and there are a lot of dips and bends on it. Motuiti Road would be good - but I'm not sure how long the straight is there. I know someone who got up to 300kph on a Blackbird along there... no names, mind!
marty
22nd July 2005, 14:15
It would have to be north of Taupo as the lower North Island dosn't get the funding for long smooth billiard table roads.
actually, they are logging roads, built and paid for by the logging companies. they don't have to pay ruc on them, but they are open to the public.
marty
22nd July 2005, 14:20
like this one that runs parallel to broadlands rd.
http://www.wises.co.nz/map/default.asp?svctype=16&zoom=4&mapwhich=19&mapsize=2&width=512&height=960&businesses=1&brad=25&color=-1&filled=0&routemethod=0&s_id=&radius=&a=0&e=2807000&n=6276000&move=true&zoomin=true
ManDownUnder
22nd July 2005, 14:25
We jealously guard that info for fear that it will get into the wrong hands. :devil2: :whistle:
please tell me mine aren't the wrong one - I'd LOVE that information (and a radar detector/deepfrier combo... dont care if I see the radar... I just want to be able to fry it instead of slowing down.
ManDownUnder
22nd July 2005, 14:27
I don't think you'd get a 7km flat bit - that road is pretty narrow and there are a lot of dips and bends on it. Motuiti Road would be good - but I'm not sure how long the straight is there. I know someone who got up to 300kph on a Blackbird along there... no names, mind!
They survived unharmed? That'd rule out Biff...
Beemer
22nd July 2005, 16:01
They survived unharmed? That'd rule out Biff...
If I told you who he was, I'd have to kill you before you told anyone else, or he'd kill me. He has a mate who is a cop, and the cop has done about the same speed down that road on his own bike!
ManDownUnder
22nd July 2005, 16:04
If I told you who he was, I'd have to kill you before you told anyone else, or he'd kill me. He has a mate who is a cop, and the cop has done about the same speed down that road on his own bike!
That's either a good call or just plain selfish.
In the spirit of being "community minded" let's call it a good call (dammit LOL)
MDU
Beemer
22nd July 2005, 16:37
I get the feeling it was one of those "I've got this bike for a test ride, let's see what it can do" rather than a "I know I can do 300kph down this road" instances.
He's not the kind of guy who goes like the clappers for the sake of it, he is what I would class a safe rider. This was many years ago and I doubt very much he'd be keen to repeat it - nowadays he saves this kind of speed (if he had a bike capable of it!) for the track. And after a young guy lost control of his car along Motuiti Road and killed himself when he collided with a tree (the car burst into flames - I won't go into detail but you get the picture), he has a lot more respect for that road.
Me, I was happy to see about 170 on the clock on the RG150 at Manfeild once - probably only about 140 in reality, knowing that speedo, but I felt like I was flying! No great desire to go much faster on a bike because I know my limitations. But good luck to the guys trying to break the record, they obviously have balls - I don't ('cos I'm a girl :weird: )!
Jonty
22nd July 2005, 17:38
The seven mile road just outside of Oamaru is a seven mile stretch of very flat road. I think there have been a number of speed attempts there and its not too far from ChCh.
ajturbo
22nd July 2005, 17:43
That's Goudie Road. On the eastern side of the Reporoa valley between Rotorua & Taupo, comes off hwy 38. Let us know if they use it, I'll cruise over for a look.
Cheers
Clint
THEY ARE DOING ROAD WORKS ON THAT STREACH AS WE TYPE!!!!!!!!:weird:
what for ... i dunno
i have been down that way 3 weekends in a row and they seam to making it worse each time:mad:
ajturbo
22nd July 2005, 17:45
They would be perfect.
What bout the back road to Himatangi from Foxton??? (runs next to SH1)
tooooo many hills i recon... my mate lives on that road.......:no:
Sensei
22nd July 2005, 17:48
Airport Straight here in the Naki Good for 295k both ways so I'v been told :whistle:
ajturbo
22nd July 2005, 17:49
The seven mile road just outside of Oamaru is a seven mile stretch of very flat road. I think there have been a number of speed attempts there and its not too far from ChCh.
i used to live on that road... isn't there a corner on it ???
mad pom
22nd July 2005, 19:53
Reading the thread on our search for another road in NZ that we can use to lift the WOrld Record that we set last week there are some other criteria that need to be considered and i would appreciate any help or advice that you can offer.
1- The road needs to be within 1% gradient for at least 4km
2- surface must be flat and with minimum camber, bumps can be repaired, camber can not.
3- Telegraph poles, trees, fences, pylons etc. must be as far as possible from the road, non existent if possible!
4- a suitable diversion must exist for regular users of the road.
5- The GOvt will not allow us to close State Highways so we are automatically down to B roads.
6- Permission will need to be gained from all landowners and residents, for the road in Chertsey i had to write to 28 people even though we actually went passed only 2 houses
Any suitable roads that you guys know of, please add these things into the mix and see if they stack up.
to answer the guy who has been as fast on his roadbike, did you hold the throttle pinned against the stop for 13 seconds? ...Twice
Hey, good job, congrats on the record :Punk:
So the Tram Road, South Eyre Road etc are out? Suppose too busy these days to close?
Firefight
22nd July 2005, 20:08
what about the "South Eyre Rd " in North canterbury, I think its NZ longest straightest bit of Road, used to work in the area,(Oxford) when i was about.... well a long time ago.. maybe some of the Christchurch riders could confirm.
F/F
mad pom
22nd July 2005, 20:20
I visited South Eyre Road, too much camber and to many trees!
cheers
RiderInBlack
22nd July 2005, 20:26
You might have to do Ninety Mile beach to get anything the long and flat up here:rofl: Shouldn't laugh really because land speed records have been done on flat sandy bits before.
RiderInBlack
22nd July 2005, 20:31
The Murapara straight is 7 km long. Really smooth too at Blackbird speeds if you get my drift :whistle:Have gone full throttle on the my previous bike (1991 VFR750) a long there:devil2::whistle: :nono:
dangerous
22nd July 2005, 20:33
Any suitable roads that you guys know of, please add these things into the mix and see if they stack up.
to answer the guy who has been as fast on his roadbike, did you hold the throttle pinned against the stop for 13 seconds? ...Twice
opps.... Hi Phill welcome to KB ummm, if you are refering to my comment bout doing 270k on the Busa then well fuk me never expected you to read that, dont worry that pilock Warwick chewed my ear over the comment I was just troling :whistle: any way no sir..... dident have the throttle pinned against anything, shit giving at that speed 270 was enough, I hate to think what its like with ya ass rubbing on the ground..... awesome effort men :first:
How about 90ml beach.... might be a silly answer but ya never know :drinkup:
TonyB
22nd July 2005, 21:28
I rode the road from Methen, past Highbank, through Barrhill and into Rakaia many years ago. It may have too much slope, dunno. But I remember that it was flat with very wide verges, almost no houses etc. I am told it is long enough that you can keep the throttle wide open for a looong time and experiment with the effect of sitting upright or lying flat on the tank. If that ones no good there may be some other good candiates in the area
Seven mile road is long enough, probably flat enough both ways, but from memory it has fences, ditches and power poles fairly close by.
mad pom
23rd July 2005, 00:00
THanks TonyB
I have ridden on the stretch you mention and did go back there when i was looking at roads, it is a truly good piece of road but not consistent in quality for long enough stretches, i had one stretch in the back of my mind as a back up if the Chertsey Kyle ROad fell through even though it was a bit shorter.
We learned a lot about roads and surfaces in the preparation for the record, even small undulations or changes in camber can have a marked effect on the handling of the bike at high speed,and as we are now looking at possibly lifting the bar over the 350kmh mark it has become much more important that the road is reallly flat!
One more thing that i thought of when looking for the perfect road - wind direction and strength at different times of year, find the nearest met office station ( often airports or council offices or try private weather forecasting types) and check out the records,
It sounds like a lot of work but this was how i did it, i would really laugh if somebody pointed me to website that would have told me in a flash!
anyway, thanks for the tip
Jantar
23rd July 2005, 00:12
I believe that the longest straight section of road in NZ is near Matamata. its the back road from Whaharoa to Te Aroha and has a 13km long straight section. However there are a number of side roads and I'm not sure that it would be smooth enough for the speeds you are suggesting.
Good luck with you efforts anyway. :yes:
dangerous
23rd July 2005, 05:40
It sounds like a lot of work but this was how i did it, i would really laugh if somebody pointed me to website that would have told me in a flash!
anyway, thanks for the tip
LOL... you were bloody lucky when Kickaha sent you to this web site that it wasent a porn site :wait:
How bout Chch international airport.... dont laough a mate took a 747 on in the 80's...... it got him a padded cell for 3 months tho.
Seriousley, are ex airforce air bases to short even with run up ex Woodbourn/Wigram?
RiderInBlack
23rd July 2005, 05:56
Or, shock, horror, You could try Oz:whistle: Lots of straight roads there, and it might not cost that much more to get the sidecar there. Would love for this to be done in NZ, but you are more likely to get what you want in Oz.
ducatijim
23rd July 2005, 16:44
Yep Goudie Rd in Reporoa is the site, thats where Owen Evans attempted/broke(?) the 4 wheel ls record, and broke the porsche + some of himself doing it. Such a quiet and little used road there should be no trouble getting a closure as it will not affect anyone much.I live 4km away if you want more info/pixs etc let me know...no trouble at all.
I know someone who got up to 300kph on a Blackbird along there... no names, mind!:banana:Was that speedo indicated or timed? and was the perp riding a real Black 'Bird?
Airport Straight here in the Naki Good for 295k both ways so I'v been told :whistle:You are a sinner Sensei! :oi-grr:
myvice
23rd July 2005, 20:34
Breakdown lane at 7am... :devil2:
FlyingDutchMan
24th July 2005, 11:07
The seven mile road just outside of Oamaru is a seven mile stretch of very flat road. I think there have been a number of speed attempts there and its not too far from ChCh.
I was thinking exactly the same thing. 7 miles ~ 11km. It is perfectly straight and very flat and level. Theres lots of alternative way for people to get around it too. It comes off SH1 right by Oamaru airport. Heres a map:
http://www.motosoc.org.nz/mystuff/7mile.jpg
Pixie
24th July 2005, 11:27
It would have to be north of Taupo as the lower North Island dosn't get the funding for long smooth billiard table roads.
Have you ever been north of Taihape?Where State Highway 1 becomes State Goat Track 1
mad pom
25th July 2005, 08:14
HI Jonty
Thanks for the map on the road in Oamaru, it looks really straight but what is it like on the ground, camber, gradient, road condition etc,
is it convenient for you to go and have a look and report back? i would be grateful if you could.
MAny thanks
Phil
hondacmx450
25th July 2005, 17:58
Reading the thread on our search for another road in NZ that we can use to lift the WOrld Record that we set last week there are some other criteria that need to be considered and i would appreciate any help or advice that you can offer.
1- The road needs to be within 1% gradient for at least 4km
2- surface must be flat and with minimum camber, bumps can be repaired, camber can not.
3- Telegraph poles, trees, fences, pylons etc. must be as far as possible from the road, non existent if possible!
4- a suitable diversion must exist for regular users of the road.
5- The GOvt will not allow us to close State Highways so we are automatically down to B roads.
6- Permission will need to be gained from all landowners and residents, for the road in Chertsey i had to write to 28 people even though we actually went passed only 2 houses
Any suitable roads that you guys know of, please add these things into the mix and see if they stack up.
to answer the guy who has been as fast on his roadbike, did you hold the throttle pinned against the stop for 13 seconds? ...Twice
you would think the govt would say hay lets help these crazy ass head down go fast bikers and put this country on the map as the fastest but oh sorry just woke up and the govt is still fighting over scraps
lets all meet some were and close the road by our selves and then you guys can do your vooooom thing and we happy to help and you get what you want ill help you close a road any thing to stop cars :motu:
Jonty
25th July 2005, 18:19
HI Jonty
Thanks for the map on the road in Oamaru, it looks really straight but what is it like on the ground, camber, gradient, road condition etc,
is it convenient for you to go and have a look and report back? i would be grateful if you could.
MAny thanks
Phil
No problem, flyindutchman posted the map for you. Unfortunatley I am now a Wellingtonian, however my uncle rides a CBR600 who still lives on that road. I will speak to him and get his thoughts on the quality of it for speed record purposes. From memory (about 10 years ago now) it is perfectly straight for 11kms but there are a few side roads some of which may have a bit of traffic (which may cause consent issues). Other than than, I don't remember any major problems other than it is not the widest road and yeah there may be camber issues but will check.
Ms Piggy
25th July 2005, 19:13
Sorry if this has already been suggested but I was thinking about it today and can't be arsed reading back through all the other posts.
Sorry if this has already been suggestedThat would fall too short, the worlds longest runway is a whopping 5km at Ulyanovsk-Vostochny International Airport in Russia!
And that was today's useless piece of information. :rolleyes:
Waylander
25th July 2005, 21:08
That would fall too short, the worlds longest runway is a whopping 5km at Ulyanovsk-Vostochny International Airport in Russia!
And that was today's useless piece of information. :rolleyes:
What about the Groom lake facility?
What about the Groom lake facility?Yes, that would do it at 8.2296 kilometers!! :Punk: Sorry, the Russian one is the longest 'commercial' airport. Pity neither of them are in NZ. :crazy:
Waylander
25th July 2005, 21:23
Yes, that would do it at 8.2296 kilometers!! :Punk: Sorry, the Russian one is the longest 'commercial' airport. Pity neither of them are in NZ. :crazy:
And one will get you shot for being caught out on it... lol this place needs it's own Death Vally or White Sands lol
Fugly
31st July 2005, 15:59
Hey Kickaha, I live on the road that Ray Williams tried to set the NZ land speed record on in 1996 in his Porsche 930 Turbo. All was going really well until a rear tire blew!!!. The road is Goudies Road in Reporoa (mid way between Rotorua & Taupo) and it has been used a number of times by various groups in an attempt to break various records. The Road is dead straight for just over 7 kilometres from memory.
humvee
31st July 2005, 21:37
Heres what I can tell you abouts its condition. (I use to live there and my parents still do. I was down there last weekend)
7 miles flat and strait road, reasonable wide marked 2 lane sealed road. ditches on both sides 2 -4 m back from road edge for most the length of the road. Where there are power poles they are usually on the far sides of the ditches.
some small sections of the road would prob need repaired/ cleaned where cattle have crossed.
camber is constant but may cause u problems I not certian. What could I look for/ tell to work out if this is likely to be an issue.
The road use to get closed for 1 day a year for the flying quarter mile so hopefully consent should not be an issue.
I could give more details about the people/land owners for consent but would rather not in a public foreum
WINJA
31st July 2005, 21:44
SOME ROAD NEAR PAEROA IS LIKE THAT , IT WHERE OWEN EVANS ROLLED HIS SHITTER PORCHE
Oakie
31st July 2005, 22:05
HI Jonty
Thanks for the map on the road in Oamaru, it looks really straight but what is it like on the ground, camber, gradient, road condition etc,
is it convenient for you to go and have a look and report back? i would be grateful if you could.
MAny thanks
Phil
Yeah, I was thinking of that seven mile road at Oamaru too. And it's actually called 'Seven Mile Road' in case anyone is wondering.
I'm not sure of the condition of the road now but I do recall years ago that the local car club organised 1/4 mile sprints along part of it. I don't think you'll have any worries with the gradient. Flat as.
humvee
31st July 2005, 22:33
absolutely no worry with gradient. it does have a reasonable camber to allow for good water drainage though
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