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Monkfish

19th January 2012, 08:25

Hi guys and gals,

I'm looking to get into riding, I have always been a biker just with out the bike. :(

my dilemma is I'm currently 110kg and looking to commute from Auckland to the Glenbrook steel mill every day. (Around 40 min commute) also looking to build up my confidence with the ultimate goal of a Moto Morini 1200, Moto-Guzzi
Griso 1200 8V, or speed tripple

so what would you recommend for some one of my stature to learn on that will be comfortable on the open road???

any thoughts would be appreciated.

nodrog

19th January 2012, 09:46

A Suzuki GSXR 1000

Monkfish

19th January 2012, 09:51

A Suzuki GSXR 1000

Yeah I would love to but I think id probably kill myself learning on one of those. :scooter:

I have been recommended just to learn on a RVG 250 as it might have enough grunt to lugg my big ass around.. anyone else think so?

5150

19th January 2012, 10:11

A Suzuki GSXR 1000

With Mr Turbo kit..... (don't forget) :innocent:

Gremlin

19th January 2012, 10:21

A bike... definitely a bike.

We are of course, a motorcycle forum, so we'd naturally suggest one equipped with an engine. Hippie type people may suggest one of those pedal powered contraptions, but I doubt they'll ever catch on.

Don't bother with dogs or cats, they'll never handle that kind of distance, day after day. Horses are big bastards, and you need a stable to keep them, and they eat heaps.

Lelitu

19th January 2012, 10:26

I'm brand new to biking, and 6 foot 2 and about 105kg

I've been looking for bikes for a while, and found that most 250's are just a little too small to be comfortable
though I havn't been looking at cruisers (they're just not my thing)

and the only bikes I've found that fit me well and would be comfortable for more than 30 minutes are the Hyosung 250's
they've got the same size frame as a 650, which does make a big difference to comfort.

MSTRS

19th January 2012, 10:31

I'm looking to get into riding, I have always been a biker just with out the bike.

So. You like the idea of riding, but never taken it up? And you don't have a Class 6 on your licence?
Until LAMS comes in, you are stuck with 250cc, if you want to be legal.
Forget a 2 stroke - lots of fun, but only got any 'go' when you're caning them. Nor are they really designed for daily commute-type riding.
Comfort is up to the individual. Some like to 'spread out', some like to fold into the sprotbike crouch. You have to sit on a bike for a while to know what's right for you.
V twins make great starting-out bikes, and performance-wise will keep you happy for longer than a single.

Stirts

19th January 2012, 10:36

ultimate goal of a Moto Morini 1200, Moto-Guzzi
Griso 1200 8V, or speed tripple

Going by your "wish list" you like naked rides, so what about a GSF 250 Bandit?

....the only bikes I've found that fit me well and would be comfortable for more than 30 minutes are the Hyosung 250's
they've got the same size frame as a 650, which does make a big difference to comfort.

+1
I know of a rather "Chunky" man who rides a Hyobag GT250R and it seems to haul his arse around pretty well.

Tigadee

19th January 2012, 11:53

I'm 110kg and 6' 1" and I can tell you no worries, a lot of bikes at the 220-250cc range can carry lardy asses like ours around easily.

I've got a Yamaha Scorpio, not the largest of the 250s (it's actually a 223cc) and it still easily brings me from point A to B (about 30 mins commute to work each way) at 120kph cruising. But of course, if you're looking for a speed machine, then there are a select range of bikes which fit your needs better, and there are more knowledgeable and qualified people here who can point you at the right models...

For me, it's more a matter of comfort than engine power or speed. You've got to check legroom, for example, as even some big 250cc bikes like the Hyosung GT250 Comet (naked version) may be tall enough and large enough, but your legs can feel pretty crammed up - I didn't like it even though the seat was comfy and the bike felt solid and stable.

Monkfish

19th January 2012, 12:47

Cheers boys,

thanks alot for the advice,

I was thinking about the Hyosung, and I heard that the GT250R is really just a re badged ninja.

one bike that really caught my eye was the SYM on Trade me Link below.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/scooters/auction-439753406.htm

does anyone have an opinion or knowledge on these???

Lelitu

19th January 2012, 12:52

Cheers boys,

thanks alot for the advice,

I was thinking about the Hyosung, and I heard that the GT250R is really just a re badged ninja.

that is one thing the Hyosung GT250R is not.
the chassis is different, and significantly bigger,
completely different engine, Vtwin vs Parallel twin for the ninja.

so, definitely not a re-badged ninja

Stirts

19th January 2012, 12:55

one bike that really caught my eye was the SYM on Trade me Link below.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/scooters/auction-439753406.htm

does anyone have an opinion or knowledge on these???

Yup!!!

They are fugly!!

Monkfish

19th January 2012, 13:03

that is one thing the Hyosung GT250R is not.
the chassis is different, and significantly bigger,
completely different engine, Vtwin vs Parallel twin for the ninja.

so, definitely not a re-badged ninja

I shall not listen to the limited knowledge of my mates any longer. :bash:

cheers for clearing that up. will give me something to shut him up with in the future.

Monkfish

19th January 2012, 13:05

Yup!!!

They are fugly!!

lol,

cheers, I was referring to their quality and ride but anyhow ill be quiet and refer to your sig on that one.

nodrog

19th January 2012, 13:12

lol,

cheers, I was referring to their quality and ride but anyhow ill be quiet and refer to your sig on that one.

If you are going to spend that sort of money on a bike made in Kazakhstan or similar, you should get a Hyobag. They are more than capable of lugging your fat arse around, and have decent build quality and dealer network. Just dont expect to set any landspeed record on it.

Tigadee

19th January 2012, 13:26

Hyosung has or had a relationship with Suzuki, so their bikes are either re-badged Suzukis or based on Suzukis, not Kawasakis.

The Sym is a beaut and Sym is a reliable well-known brand in Europe and Taiwan (and Aus I think). I wouldn't mind having one but the price tag's a bit steep to me...

Monkfish

19th January 2012, 13:28

yeah, the Hyosung it is!

cheers for that, Yall:2thumbsup

Just got to get on with my license now and avoid the speed traps.:buggerd:

nodrog

19th January 2012, 13:49

...... and avoid the speed traps.:buggerd:

Dude its a Hyosung, dont panic.

Tigadee

19th January 2012, 13:54

Dude its a Hyosung, dont panic.

:lol: True, true...

Gremlin

19th January 2012, 14:00

Dude its a Hyosung, dont panic.
Mate got a speeding ticket on a GN250... yep... he's real talented.

nodrog

19th January 2012, 14:02

Mate got a speeding ticket on a GN250... yep... he's real talented.

Did you have him and the GN in your topbox?

Gremlin

19th January 2012, 14:08

Did you have him and the GN in your topbox?
haha, nope! He was all by himself. :facepalm:

Ok, when I followed him back to Auckland, he was doing 50kph up some hills... but that's another (very long) story.

hellokitty

20th January 2012, 06:46

Going by your "wish list" you like naked rides, so what about a GSF 250 Bandit?

My Dad had a 250 Bandit when he was getting back into biking, he is 6 foot 2 and about 100 kilos. When I wanted to learn to ride, we both jumped on the Bandit so i could hear the engine and gears etc and we still managed to go pretty fast with both of us on it.

Old Steve

20th January 2012, 19:05

I'm a walking Hyosung advert. Done 24,000 km in 20 months on my GV250, and just replaced her with a Suzuki Boulevard M50. The mechanicals of the GV250 (and GT250N and R) are very similar to the Suzuki intruder 250. If top speed is a problem, I believe you can change the rear sprocket for one a couple of cogs less - you'll get a higher top speed but lose a little on pick up.

Now, if you want a second hand Hyosung GV250, go to TradeMe and search for GV250 and Gloria. Come down to Tauranga to have a look at her, and I'll deliver her to Auckland for you.

Ollie.T

20th January 2012, 22:20

Mate got a speeding ticket on a GN250... yep... he's real talented.

also known as "speeding certificates" on GNs...

I could just imagine the Police pulling one over... "Congratulations! You win the prize! (Now pay me $230.)"

GrayWolf

22nd January 2012, 10:52

If you like the Ninja?
another bike I would reccomend sitting on is a ZZR250.. its basicaly the same engine. The little zizzers look identical to the big un's (1100). Im 5'10" and 105kg I can fit on the little Zed quite comfortably.

Monkfish

24th January 2012, 07:38

baffa

24th January 2012, 09:34

Hyosong for sure. I'm 6'2 and 100 odd kilo and I've managed on a VTR250. It has a smaller frame than a hyosong, but more hp and lower weight to make up for mine :sunny:

Also regularly pillioned the gf who is 5'10 (and she wont tell me her weight) and it handled that. (It wasnt impressed though)

Timmeh:P

24th January 2012, 16:14

Honda Hornet CB250... Wipe the floor with the hyobag and kawasucky. :laugh:

Edit: Just had a look on trademe... http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-439689555.htm (I do not work for Colemans nor have I ever bought a bike from em...) get your license and ask to try it out in a car park or something.