What is the most fun 250?

[haydes55]

What is the most fun 250 you have ridden? (on the road).

I want to hear from people who have ridden bikes such as:
Road legal motorcross styles bikes like a klx250
2cyl bikes like the Ninja
4cyl bikes like a Hornet or Bandit
V-twins like a VTR250 (I really liked the Hyosungs V-twin engine, very fun bike for long rides and tight corners)
Any thing else you have ridden on the road and had alot of fun with :clap:

I've never ridden a cruiser (they don't look fun) but if you reckon they are then suggest that aswell.

[sil3nt]

250 2 stroke.

[DMNTD]

rs250........

[george formby]

250 2 stroke.

+1 RGV 2 fiddy. Addictive

[sugilite]

RGV250 :love:, in comparison, a 4 stroke is like a wet fart :yawn:

[george formby]

If you can, read Richard Hammonds write up in the latest Top Gear magazine on his KR1-S. Says it all really.

[cave weta]

YZ 250 with a lighting kit!

[tigertim20]

What is the most fun 250 you have ridden? (on the road).

I want to hear from people who have ridden bikes such as:
Road legal motorcross styles bikes like a klx250
2cyl bikes like the Ninja
4cyl bikes like a Hornet or Bandit
V-twins like a VTR250 (I really liked the Hyosungs V-twin engine, very fun bike for long rides and tight corners)
Any thing else you have ridden on the road and had alot of fun with :clap:

I've never ridden a cruiser (they don't look fun) but if you reckon they are then suggest that aswell.

Ive ridden all of the above, and many more, and my pick would be any of the 2 stroke 250's.
that also depends on taste too though, some like the dual purpose 250's cos they can slide them a bit more and go offraod as well.

IMO cruisers dont get fun untill at least 800cc - then they can provide you with lots of fun on the right roads.. But thats just my opinion.

[cave weta]

IMO cruisers dont get fun untill at least 800cc - then they can provide you with lots of fun on the right roads.. But thats just my opinion.

Yeah long straight roads with pubs every 5 kilometers or so....:scooter:

[george formby]

YZ 250 with a lighting kit!

My KDX still has the wiring loom on it....... You can check that out for me when you come up hint hint.

[Mental Trousers]

<there you go>Hammond babbles (http://www.topgear.com/uk/richard-hammond/richard-hammond-top-gear-magazine-column-2012-01-13)

[george formby]

<there you go>Hammond babbles (http://www.topgear.com/uk/richard-hammond/richard-hammond-top-gear-magazine-column-2012-01-13)

"Kermit shagged Miss Piggy in a skip....." He gets paid a fortune to write this stuff. I forgive him.

[Madness]

I've owned an RG250 and it was great. I also had (later on) a Honda CRM250 road legal 2-smoker Enduro style bike. The latter was, without any doubt at all, the most fun of the two.

[cave weta]

YZ 250 with a lighting kit!

Proof that you get a nicer class of people on dirt bikes.....


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[tigertim20]

Yeah long straight roads with pubs every 5 kilometers or so....:scooter:

sounds like you should get some bum on seat time on a nice windy road on a big cruiser, more fun than you might think!

[cave weta]

I also had (later on) a Honda CRM250 road legal 2-smoker Enduro style bike. The latter was, without any doubt at all, the most fun of the two.


Meeeeeeee toooooo! that was the bomb- and mine was a Jap import detuned one - still awesome fun on the road

[cave weta]

sounds like you should get some bum on seat time on a nice windy road on a big cruiser, more fun than you might think!

I live on the Coro loop and I do relocations and passenger tours occasionally for these guys


http://www.motorbikesnz.co.nz/

heritage wofttails and roadbarges mainly....... but they do have a Buell....

[Madness]

Meeeeeeee toooooo! that was the bomb- and mine was a Jap import detuned one - still awesome fun on the road

Mine was identcal to this one (http://www.4wdparts.co.nz/images/bikes/5885%20Honda%20CRM250.jpg) and I'd own another in a heartbeat (as a second bike to the 12, of course).

I owned the CRM in Welly and I used to visit mates in Upper Hutt all the time. I'd ride through Lower Hutt then at Silverstream I'd jump on the gravel road that runs parallel to SH2 (River Road). 110K's on the gravel, passing the cars on the motorway then jump (literally) back on the tar again at the other end. Choice :niceone:

[george formby]

Mine was identcal to this one (http://www.4wdparts.co.nz/images/bikes/5885%20Honda%20CRM250.jpg) and I'd own another in a heartbeat (as a second bike to the 12, of course).

I owned the CRM in Welly and I used to visit mates in Upper Hutt all the time. I'd ride through Lower Hutt then at Silverstream I'd jump on the gravel road that runs parallel to SH2 (River Road). 110K's on the gravel, passing the cars on the motorway then jump (literally) back on the tar again at the other end. Choice :niceone:

I have one sat in a garage in the UK. My dad has gifted it to me but I don't have the pingers to get it out here. Oh well.

[haydes55]

Mine was identcal to this one (http://www.4wdparts.co.nz/images/bikes/5885%20Honda%20CRM250.jpg) and I'd own another in a heartbeat (as a second bike to the 12, of course).

I owned the CRM in Welly and I used to visit mates in Upper Hutt all the time. I'd ride through Lower Hutt then at Silverstream I'd jump on the gravel road that runs parallel to SH2 (River Road). 110K's on the gravel, passing the cars on the motorway then jump (literally) back on the tar again at the other end. Choice :niceone:

That's what I'm planning on for my next bike something similar, 2-stroke 250 watercooled dual purpose bike on road tires :woohoo: Just need to find a decent one on trademe or a cheap enough one to do up. Surprised at the number of you all raving about the 2-strokes, gotta try one now :yes:

[Zamiam]

Yeah long straight roads with pubs every 5 kilometers or so....:scooter:

That's called long distance touring. A normal ride has pie stops in between.

[Mooch]

If you can, read Richard Hammonds write up in the latest Top Gear magazine on his KR1-S. Says it all really.

Had the SA version of the Kr1 (Had S pipes and a few of the bits) so made 57 - 60 hp. Got 24534 KMs of ridding before it metled down. About $4k later it was as good as new and ready for another 24534km's

Having said that it was some of the best km's I've ridden on a bike. Super light at under 130kg's . Loved revs and had a manic top end with real useful power delivery and 1 finger stoppies (these had ZZR1100 front calipers). I rode it to every end of NZ. Was great for giving large CC bikes the hurry up on the twisty stuff and surposidly could pull 210 kmh on the race track striaght.

Worst part was trying to get good rubber for 18 inch rear.

I'd wished I'd kept it rather than trading it on the 748R.

[haydes55]

I'd wished I'd kept it rather than trading it on the 748R.

I've been dreaming about an 848 since I started perving at road bikes (and from the hot chick that rides one in "I am number 4").

The 748 isn't as much fun? would imagine a KR1 wouldn't be able to get as low as a Ducati with good rubber? (my old FZR250 couldn't get as low as the Hyosung with a full size frame). The road based 2-strokes are getting rare and older. Enduro/dual purpose 250 2 strokes look like a good idea with some road rubber :yes:

[Sable]

Damn near any 2 stroke, X7 and RD onwards

[Tigadee]

Proof that you get a nicer class of people on dirt bikes.....
http://www.youtube.com/embed/Qq4BvWs11Hw

1:48 - LOL, my days of playing Road Rash flashed before my eyes!

[avgas]

They get really exciting up until about 185, then they get as boring as hell until about 340cc.

186-339cc bikes are like rent-a-clown. Not really funny, and a little dodgy.

Buy an RG150! You know you want too!

[ducatilover]

Most fun would be NSR250 (of the bikes I have thrashed)
Four stroke, tie between ZXR250C and CBR250RR MC22, both need to be doing a million RPM and handle brilliantly.
Twin = VT250 Spada. The Hyo is gutless and fucking heavy, the EX250/Ninjas are gutless.
Others, Yam SRV250 with epic loud pipes, sounded like I doing 190 when in reality it was doing 80. Sounded hot.

Sadly, all the four stroke 250's are sloooooow. :shifty:

[nodrog]

A GSXR 1000 with 3 Sparkplug leads taken off.

[BMWST?]

i have always had big 4 strokes but i had a lot of fun on a mates rg250....the thing would cruise along quite happily at 140 in top which was just in the power band.If you want to go 100 ks you have to drop it back a couple of gears...it was insane on a twisty road,hard to ride to keep it on the power but very rewarding when you did.very tight and hilly roads are difficult some clutch work may be required.

[haydes55]

i have always had big 4 strokes but i had a lot of fun on a mates rg250....the thing would cruise along quite happily at 140 in top which was just in the power band.If you want to go 100 ks you have to drop it back a couple of gears...it was insane on a twisty road,hard to ride to keep it on the power but very rewarding when you did.very tight and hilly roads are difficult some clutch work may be required.

See that doesn't sound fun, I like twisty roads more than straight speed. A good handling bike over a fast straight line bike any day :yes:

[ducatilover]

Well, depends what you call fast, a late model 600 will out handle your Hyo in its sleep :yes:

[BMWST?]

See that doesn't sound fun, I like twisty roads more than straight speed. A good handling bike over a fast straight line bike any day :yes:

eh...the thing was a fantastic handler light and good brakes,but you had to ensure you were always in the right gear,challenging but FUN

[haydes55]

eh...the thing was a fantastic handler light and good brakes,but you had to ensure you were always in the right gear,challenging but FUN

Nothing wrong with a bit of a challenge =)

[tigertim20]

See that doesn't sound fun, I like twisty roads more than straight speed. A good handling bike over a fast straight line bike any day :yes:

you should probably wait till youve actually ridden a 600 or a thou (and have gained the skill to do so) then review this comment!

[haydes55]

you should probably wait till youve actually ridden a 600 or a thou (and have gained the skill to do so) then review this comment!

True, But for 250's corners are more fun, even on the bigger bikes. Would you rather ride around coromandel or ride from invercargil to chch?

[EJK]

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[ducatilover]

True, But for 250's corners are more fun, even on the bigger bikes. Would you rather ride around coromandel or ride from invercargil to chch?

I'd rather ride my 600 everywhere except a gymkhana course...
Late model 600s will handle better than you and near enough to as well as an RS250 on the road, they also have that power stuff. Which, is kind of nice.

[Seraph]

I've had a GN250, MC19 Cbr250, A Zr250 (naked zxr250 more or less..) and a Vj22 Rgv250..And i'd pick the rgv anyday...Even with a fucked second gear it was faster than all the rest..

[haydes55]

I've had a GN250, MC19 Cbr250, A Zr250 (naked zxr250 more or less..) and a Vj22 Rgv250..And i'd pick the rgv anyday...Even with a fucked second gear it was faster than all the rest..

Quite a collection! Just found out from the bike shop my bike's been written off (they told my insurer a week ago, they haven't told me yet) Following everyones suggestions I'm looking for a 2smoker in my price range.

[Madness]

Following everyones suggestions I'm looking for a 2smoker in my price range.

Good luck finding one that's not fucked for less than a squillion dollars. 2,000th post (not that I'm counting)

[haydes55]

Good luck finding one that's not fucked for less than a squillion dollars. 2,000th post (not that I'm counting)

That's alot of posts! (88th post :laugh:) This one looks in good condition. (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=437183773) not too badly priced either

[ducatilover]

Repainted and only one poo photo.
Get someone to look over it, if it's mech sound, it's great bang for buck :Punk:

[haydes55]

Repainted and only one poo photo.
Get someone to look over it, if it's mech sound, it's great bang for buck :Punk:

Luckily I know heaps of motorcyclists in chch. Then I could fly down and have a fun ride back to Hamilton. 10-12 hours worth of riding will take up a weekend.

[ducatilover]

You're going to be a worn out and sore mofo lol
Hopefully it works out.

[Madness]

I see you're looking at the one with thr Power Band fitted. Be sure it's not a blue one :facepalm:

[Ender EnZed]

This one looks in good condition. (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=437183773)

Also fitted with a power band? The seller has already provided KB with lulz (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/145532-2-stroke-engine-also-fitted-with-a-power-band?highlight=power+band). He obviously hasn't clued on yet as the ad hasn't changed at all.

[roadkillnz]

My RMX-250S (250 2-stroke) is a bucket load of fun on the road.
I like the upright riding position of it, along with the 2t power rush :)

Though it'll be going soon, I can't afford to run two road bikes, a trail-bike, and a car.

[Mooch]

I've been dreaming about an 848 since I started perving at road bikes (and from the hot chick that rides one in "I am number 4").

The 748 isn't as much fun? would imagine a KR1 wouldn't be able to get as low as a Ducati with good rubber? (my old FZR250 couldn't get as low as the Hyosung with a full size frame). The road based 2-strokes are getting rare and older. Enduro/dual purpose 250 2 strokes look like a good idea with some road rubber :yes:

The 748R is a different ride. The Kr1 pegs would touch sometimes on twisty corners but you can imagine the effect of carrying 80 kg less into a series of tight corners over larger bikes. You also don't have to worry about putting all of it's power down as it won't spin the rear tyre unless it very wet. It's harder to achieve the same level of corner speeds on a heavier bike.
The 748r is probably at it's best on mid radus corners and and the torque spead is very usable. But you need to be going quite a bit quicker for it to be as rewarding as a 2 stroke 250cc.

[Rehab]

Just adding my vote for the 2 strokes. Had an NS and 2 RGVs and they were all mad fun.

[ducatilover]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-427343099.htm


Heaps of potential here :Punk:

[george formby]

eh...the thing was a fantastic handler light and good brakes,but you had to ensure you were always in the right gear,challenging but FUN

Totally involving, consuming & addictive. On a good road with bugger all traffic they are about as much fun as you can have with your clothes on. Keeping them on the pipe for 20 minutes or more through the twisties is heart attack material. Ahhhh, thems was the days.:sweatdrop

I am adding a ride over the Mangamukas on a TZRKR1RGVNSR or such to my bucket list.

[haydes55]

Totally involving, consuming & addictive. On a good road with bugger all traffic they are about as much fun as you can have with your clothes on. Keeping them on the pipe for 20 minutes or more through the twisties is heart attack material. Ahhhh, thems was the days.:sweatdrop

I am adding a ride over the Mangamukas on a TZRKR1RGVNSR or such to my bucket list.

Hope that isn't the final thing ticked off the bucket list!

[tigertim20]

True, But for 250's corners are more fun, even on the bigger bikes. Would you rather ride around coromandel or ride from invercargil to chch?

i could probably count on the fingers of one hand the amount of corners that are more fun on a 250 around here.
wait till you have some more kays under your belt, and take a good 600 for a ride through the twisty stuff and you start coming outta a corner with the front skyward, or the bike a little sideways etc etc, and youll see that the 250s are more fun in the corners nonsense is a fallacy.
they have their place, but are often overrated by overzealous 2fiddy lovers. each to their own.

[george formby]

i could probably count on the fingers of one hand the amount of corners that are more fun on a 250 around here.
wait till you have some more kays under your belt, and take a good 600 for a ride through the twisty stuff and you start coming outta a corner with the front skyward, or the bike a little sideways etc etc, and youll see that the 250s are more fun in the corners nonsense is a fallacy.
they have their place, but are often overrated by overzealous 2fiddy lovers. each to their own.

Piffle & balderdash. The 600's maybe the modern equivalent but they are still dumplings in comparison.

[haydes55]

i could probably count on the fingers of one hand the amount of corners that are more fun on a 250 around here.
wait till you have some more kays under your belt, and take a good 600 for a ride through the twisty stuff and you start coming outta a corner with the front skyward, or the bike a little sideways etc etc, and youll see that the 250s are more fun in the corners nonsense is a fallacy.
they have their place, but are often overrated by overzealous 2fiddy lovers. each to their own.

Think you misinterpreted what I said (or I didn't say it well enough). When restricted to a 250cc bike, a good handling 250 is more fun for going around corners than a 250 with more straight line speed. I agree 99% of 600's will be more fun that a 250

[george formby]

Think you misinterpreted what I said (or I didn't say it well enough). When restricted to a 250cc bike, a good handling 250 is more fun for going around corners than a 250 with more straight line speed. I agree 99% of 600's will be more fun that a 250

I was just pulling your twizzle:laugh:

The old 2 t's were relatively light, excellent power to weight, state of the art suspension for the time etc. They honked, more than enough power to get the wheel up out of corners & leave skids in your under cracks. Bikes like the CBR 250 & 400 are really good fun to ride because of the wee dimensions & handling but you have to absolutely cane them everywhere & maintain high corner speeds or tap dance on the gear lever, they don't bite much either. I've lost count of how many RD's, RGV's etc that I have seen looped & bouncing down the road.
Oh well, all good fun in the end. 2 fiddy, 6 hundy they're all a larf.

[haydes55]

I was just pulling your twizzle:laugh:


Leave my twizzle alone! :laugh: Will see what's for sale when insurance finally sends me my money as to what bike I end up with.

[george formby]

Leave my twizzle alone! :laugh: Will see what's for sale when insurance finally sends me my money as to what bike I end up with.

Let your head rule your heart. No point in getting a screaming banshee bike which spends most of it's time in bits.

[ducatilover]

Think you misinterpreted what I said (or I didn't say it well enough). When restricted to a 250cc bike, a good handling 250 is more fun for going around corners than a 250 with more straight line speed. I agree 99% of 600's will be more fun that a 250
Well young hrassgropper....the best handling 250 is also the fastest. :Punk:

[haydes55]

Well young hrassgropper....the best handling 250 is also the fastest. :Punk:

What about a 2-stroke dual purpose bike with stiffened suspension and decent road tires on it? Not going to be the fastest but definitely a corner raper.

[ducatilover]

What about a 2-stroke dual purpose bike with stiffened suspension and decent road tires on it? Not going to be the fastest but definitely a corner raper.
Low speed corners yes.
I doubt you'll be as fast as yourself on an RS250 though, the RS has better brakes, great suspension and a brilliant chassis, not to forget a shitload of grunt.

[george formby]

One of these (http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/yamaha_tdr250%2090.htm)?:yes:

[george formby]

One of these (http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/yamaha_tdr250%2090.htm)?:yes:

This is what they sound like.....:woohoo:

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[Dodgy]

My NSR250 of course!

[Ender EnZed]

One of these (http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/model/yamaha/yamaha_tdr250%2090.htm)?:yes:

There happens to be one on Trademe at the moment.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-439923194.htm

[george formby]

There happens to be one on Trademe at the moment.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-439923194.htm

Now why did you have to go & post that? :facepalm: I shan't sleep tonight figuring out how to raise the pingas.

[Ender EnZed]

Now why did you have to go & post that? :facepalm: I shan't sleep tonight figuring out how to raise the pingas.

That's the first one I've ever seen on Trademe. You know there won't be another for years and years. :innocent:

[george formby]

That's the first one I've ever seen on Trademe. You know there won't be another for years and years. :innocent:

Second one I have seen for sale in the last couple of years. Both in the Waitakeres..... That bike looks in better nick than the one for sale awhile ago. A restoration or TDR hoarder perhaps.

Damn, must stop looking:pinch:

[tigertim20]

Low speed corners yes.
I doubt you'll be as fast as yourself on an RS250 though, the RS has better brakes, great suspension and a brilliant chassis, not to forget a shitload of grunt.

true, but it wasnt his point.
RS 250 = round the corner fast with a knee on the deck
other option = ass end out fuckin sideways, shit seeping into your dacks, while simultaneously spurting a load in excitement while screaming 'fuck yeah cunts!!!!!'.

both fun, horses for courses eh?

[haydes55]

true, but it wasnt his point.
RS 250 = round the corner fast with a knee on the deck
other option = ass end out fuckin sideways, shit seeping into your dacks, while simultaneously spurting a load in excitement while screaming 'fuck yeah cunts!!!!!'.

both fun, horses for courses eh?

I learnt how to ride a bike sideways, My first bike was an xr125 speedway junior, then a few xr200's and now a 500cc jawa. I find sideways very fun :Punk: and I don't mind spending a bit on tires haha

[george formby]

I learnt how to ride a bike sideways, My first bike was an xr125 speedway junior, then a few xr200's and now a 500cc jawa. I find sideways very fun :Punk: and I don't mind spending a bit on tires haha

Get that TDR & put cheap knobblies on it. Perfick!