Checked your skin lately?

[Edbear]

Our daughter was doing my wife's hair and found a couple of spots on her scalp. My wife has always had a fear of cancer as other family members have died from or dealt with one form or other. She has had a few small spots burnt off her hands and face over the years so is naturally sensitive and was immediately thinking the worst.

I had been discussing with her the suggestion we should both have a check up as it had been a few years since the last checks and we are children of the 60's and 70's when getting a tan was considered necessary and the darker the better.

We are privileged to have a local Dr. who is a skin cancer specialist and I booked us an appointment for this afternoon. Good news was we were both given a clean bill of health with nothing of concern so my dear wife was incredibly relieved!

Please everyone, do keep an eye on this issue, the Doc has seen too much tragedy and wishes all were proactive in getting themselves checked before something gets serious.

[Usarka]

Can you die from melanoma?

I've got a mole thats gone white/red/lumpy and occasionally sore on my leg but can't be arsed seeing about it.

[SMOKEU]

Can you die from melanoma?

I've got a mole thats gone white/red/lumpy and occasionally sore on my leg but can't be arsed seeing about it.

It might pay to get it checked out. http://dermatology.about.com/od/melanoma/ss/ABCD_SBS.htm

http://www.ehow.com/how_4918218_spot-cancerous-moles.html

[Zamiam]

Can you die from melanoma?

I've got a mole thats gone white/red/lumpy and occasionally sore on my leg but can't be arsed seeing about it.

You most certainly can. Get to a doctor and get a mole map done.

[SMOKEU]

Get to a doctor and get a mole map done.

Either that or cut it out with a knife. You'll be surprised at how much you can learn from watching surgery videos on Youtube and bestgore.

[Virago]

Can you die from melanoma?

I've got a mole thats gone white/red/lumpy and occasionally sore on my leg but can't be arsed seeing about it.

Jeez, are you the only person alive who hasn't seen this?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/_4jgUcxMezM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Edbear]

Can you die from melanoma?

I've got a mole thats gone white/red/lumpy and occasionally sore on my leg but can't be arsed seeing about it.


You most certainly can. Get to a doctor and get a mole map done.

Yup! Don't wait.

[Katman]

Can you die from melanoma?

I've got a mole thats gone white/red/lumpy and occasionally sore on my leg but can't be arsed seeing about it.

Nah, you just got a mosquito bite on your mole.

[TrentNz]

i got really sunburnt a few years back, got sun stroke and had blisters the size of 50c coins on my back.
cant be arsed getting a check up but got no moles.
should still probably go.. but when i can be fucked.

[nzspokes]

Dont muck around with it. I had 3 cut out of my back that were bad. Yes it will kill you.


From memory thats what got John Brittan.

[rickstv]

It's as simple as getting a friend, brother, sister, wife or husband, anyone, to have a quick look at your back. anything new or changing shape or colour should be looked at pronto.

If the doctor says it's ok, thats good. But get someone to take a good clear photo of your back so that you have a record of all the moles on your back. refer to it every month or two so that any changes will be picked up quickly.

Every visit to the doctor should include a mole check.

I've lost count of the number of bits I have had cut out, all because I wanted a tan when I was a teenager back in the late sixties.
Rick.

[hellokitty]

My friend's father died from Melanoma, he also had half his nose removed and had to wear a prosthetic nose. Truly horrific for everyone involved and possibly avoidable :crybaby:

[pete376403]

Melanoma killed John Britten, and it will kill you too, given half a chance.

[Edbear]

i got really sunburnt a few years back, got sun stroke and had blisters the size of 50c coins on my back.
cant be arsed getting a check up but got no moles.
should still probably go.. but when i can be fucked.

By the time you do you might be...

[ynot slow]

By the time you do you might be...

Sobering thought,and true,I met a lady in her 40's when having my very first round of chemo in Nov 2003,she was similar to all of us back then,no or very little sinscreen used in 70's and 80's,she had waited too long to check out melanoma and died within 3 months of having surgery and chemo.

[meteor]

After years of sun abuse and no hint of using sunscreen I went to molemap, told the lady of the long days under the Dunedin sun, the sunstroke, the sheets of peeling skin we used to have competitions getting of. When I dropped my daks her exact words were "That's impressive." I knew she was referring to the lack of moles or skin damage but keep telling my wife it was for something else. Anyone who doesn't get themselves checked is crazy. Their family and friends won't thank them for dying early!

[Edbear]

After years of sun abuse and no hint of using sunscreen I went to molemap, told the lady of the long days under the Dunedin sun, the sunstroke, the sheets of peeling skin we used to have competitions getting of. When I dropped my daks her exact words were "That's impressive." I knew she was referring to the lack of moles or skin damage but keep telling my wife it was for something else. Anyone who doesn't get themselves checked is crazy. Their family and friends won't thank them for dying early!


While a deadly cancer if left unchecked, early detection has great results so the sooner you can detect it the better!

[gsxr]

My first wife had a melanoma growth cut out of her leg.Unfortunately the surgeon missed a bit and once exposed travelled to her brain.She died 3 1/2 months later due to 5 brain tumours at the ripe old age of 38.

[Edbear]

My first wife had a melanoma growth cut out of her leg.Unfortunately the surgeon missed a bit and once exposed travelled to her brain.She died 3 1/2 months later due to 5 brain tumours at the ripe old age of 38.

Very sorry to hear that! A real tragedy!

[Mooch]

The family holidays used to be in the Coromandel when I was younger. My father used to spend plenty of time in the sun. But did use sunblock ocassionally but not consistantly. ( Kiwi male thing eh)

He liked his summer sports such as tennis and did lots of out door sports as a kid growing up

I remember one time on holiday, father got his legs badly sun brunt. We ended up staying a another 3-4 days on holiday before he could drive us home.

A few years later in his early fifties, he had a small brown mark on the back of his leg. It would bleed some times if he scatched or knocked it. One of his tennis collegues said he should have checked out. He went to the local doctor who put him onto a specialist. Turn's out he had Melenomia. Being about 14 at the time I didn't completely understand the implications but I new that some cancers where serious.

He had a small operation to have it cut out. They put him on drugs for a while and he was more careful in the sun.
Three years later , he's given the all clear much to the relief of the family.

A few years after he took some time of work , he started to get bad headaches and thinks it's stress related. After a couple of weeks off work the Doctor puts him back the the specalist. Turns out the Melenoma has come back and is now has spread to his brain.

He is given 1 year at the best. From here on it gets tough. The medical profession and technology meant that he wouldn't survive a brain op. A course of chemo thearpy was given. I was 21 at the time and living at home working night shits.

Watching him on Chemo wasn't a great experence. The drugs started messing with his mind so his reality was different to what you'd percive as normal. At times he was convinced that the mafia was after us. Also at times I had to keep a check on him as the his behaviour would become agressive. Physically it killed his appitiet and he started to loose weight quite quickly.

The Chemo in his case was like the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff. Such was the advancement of the melenoma. Next course was radiolgy. This is where they try and nuke the cancer cells using isotopes. Sometimes it works well. I would take him down to the hospital and give mother a break. For a while he seem to improve. He was quite positive and looked forward to the sessions.

The cancer however progressed and he continued to loose weight. Six months after being diagnosed for the second time he finaly lost the battle at the age of 57.

Melenomia caught early is very treatable. However, leave it too long and it's the prognosis is not good.

For me, 20 odd years later. I still feel ripped off that my father isn't still around , He'd be in his 70's if he was and would be cool company to have around. I can't comperend how hard it must of been / be for mother. He'd plained so much for his retirement

My advice to others having lost someone, if you've got something that you know should be checked , Get of your arse and get it checked. You owe to yourself , your family and your friends. See your doctor or these mole clinics that are around the place. Don't F&ck around because time could be agaisnt you.

If you have moles that your not sure about , Check out the website http://www.molecheck.co.nz/ It could save your life.

[Edbear]

The family holidays used to be in the Coromandel when I was younger. My father used to spend plenty of time in the sun. But did use sunblock ocassionally but not consistantly. ( Kiwi male thing eh)

He liked his summer sports such as tennis and did lots of out door sports as a kid growing up

...SNIP...

For me, 20 odd years later. I still feel ripped off that my father isn't still around , He'd be in his 70's if he was and would be cool company to have around. I can't comperend how hard it must of been / be for mother. He'd plained so much for his retirement

My advice to others having lost someone, if you've got something that you know should be checked , Get of your arse and get it checked. You owe to yourself , your family and your friends. See your doctor or these mole clinics that are around the place. Don't F&ck around because time could be agaisnt you.

If you have moles that your not sure about , Check out the website http://www.molecheck.co.nz/ It could save your life.

This is sadly too often the case and it seems so unfair that people die needlessly. Don't ever think you are too young, either to worry about your health. A checkup is not expensive and could literally save your life.

[BASS-TREBLE]

For those that have been checked up, is this $285 pricing the normal price? http://www.molemap.co.nz/Left+Menu/Pricing.html

[Edbear]

For those that have been checked up, is this $285 pricing the normal price? http://www.molemap.co.nz/Left+Menu/Pricing.html

$50.00 from Dr. Chris de Toit in Orewa, he's a skin cancer specialist.

[Maha]

$50.00 from Dr. Chris de Toit in Orewa, he's a skin cancer specialist.

I should go see him...
Periodically I have the freeze treatment on my head but it never really gets rid of it completely. (the spots, not the head)
Can I have the phone number Eddie?

[Edbear]

I should go see him...
Periodically I have the freeze treatment on my head but it never really gets rid of it completely. (the spots, not the head)
Can I have the phone number Eddie?

Hibiscus Coast Medical Centre, 09-426 4237, Cheers!

[Brett]

Melanoma can most certainly kill you. There are different types of melanoma, some can be less aggressive and some and EXCEEDINGLY aggressive. It doesn't just stay on the mole in your skin like some nasty pimple either, it spreads through your body, often attacking internal organs such as the liver and lungs. Once it has spread, treatment is hugely difficult and largely incurable. It becomes very much terminal.

It is SUCH an easy disease to watch and monitor and a simple skin check could be the difference between living to and old age and not making another year or two. Catching it early means that treatment (removal) is highly successful.
A lady in our town here, a doctor, recently died from Melanoma. She had virtually no moles and had no symptoms until it was very late stage. The melanoma could have been hiding somewhere she didn't realise, behind an ear, in her hair...it only takes one. Bob Marley reportedly died from a Melanoma underneath a toe nail. That is how easily it can happen.

Get it looked at. Those who don't have any moles or think they don't should still get checked, even if it is just to create a benchmark should anything develop later in life.

[oneofsix]

I'm all for the good old self check but in this case it has to be done with a partner, closely checking very mm of each others bodies :drool: Hard part is keeping your mind on the job at hand :msn-wink:

[Mooch]

I think my wife and I paid about $90 each for mole map in Wellington. They are also able to do the basic removal ops if anything should be removed. They were able to remove my wifes melenoma which was caught at a very early stage a number of years back.

[Ocean1]

I think my wife and I paid about $90 each for mole map in Wellington. They are also able to do the basic removal ops if anything should be removed. They were able to remove my wifes melenoma which was caught at a very early stage a number of years back.

Shit, that's come down a bit.

The charged me $250 for an initial survey, with subsequent annual visits supposed to cost just over a hundred iirc. I did go back once, they charge me $200. I can barely justify taking an afternoon off work let alone lose the mornings income doing so.

[Brett]

I haven't had a skin check in about 8 or 9 years...this thread has prompted me to get my arse into gear and get another. Will book one for February. Got too much life to live to die yet!

[Edbear]

I haven't had a skin check in about 8 or 9 years...this thread has prompted me to get my arse into gear and get another. Will book one for February. Got too much life to live to die yet!

It is now February... :niceone:

[Brett]

It is now February... :niceone:

Indeed it is...better get moving then aye...:D

[willytheekid]

Take it from a survivor*....DON'T FUCK AROUND WITH CANCER!!

If in dought, get checked out!


*Had Cancer of the spine...that was trying to reach my heart, lungs and main organs...fought for over a year to beat that evil disease.
...its a fight I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemys.:no:

[Edbear]

Take it from a survivor*....DON'T FUCK AROUND WITH CANCER!!

If in dought, get checked out!


*Had Cancer of the spine...that was trying to reach my heart, lungs and main organs...fought for over a year to beat that evil disease.
...its a fight I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemys.:no:

Have you been classed as in remission or cleared completely?

I'm going through tests at the moment for abnormal cells but could be from my 8mm kidney stone which is starting to play up. I really don't want that to move before they can do something about it... :no:

[willytheekid]

Have you been classed as in remission or cleared completely?

I'm going through tests at the moment for abnormal cells but could be from my 8mm kidney stone which is starting to play up. I really don't want that to move before they can do something about it... :no:

Hi Ed
I will always be classed as "in remission" (not allowed to donate blood, check ups etc etc) due to the location, type of cancer and the amount of effected areas I had.(it was very aggressive, and tried its best to reach my main organs & weasel its way out of a prolonged fight!)

Hope your ok mate (still wearing your helmet & bubble wrap I hope lol)
8mm...mate!...that aint gonna slow you! down :msn-wink:
Good on ya for getting the tests done Ed:niceone:, if you don't catch it early...:(

[Edbear]

Hi Ed
I will always be classed as "in remission" (not allowed to donate blood, check ups etc etc) due to the location, type of cancer and the amount of effected areas I had.(it was very aggressive, and tried its best to reach my main organs & weasel its way out of a prolonged fight!)

Hope your ok mate (still wearing your helmet & bubble wrap I hope lol)
8mm...mate!...that aint gonna slow you! down :msn-wink:
Good on ya for getting the tests done Ed:niceone:, if you don't catch it early...:(

8mm is too big to pass, so I'm waiting to hear what they will do about it.

I had to sell my bike, :crybaby: as with the Osteoporosis they said the risk of fracture was too great and as I've only got two vertebrae left now I have to be careful.

How long have you been in remission?

[willytheekid]

I had to sell my bike, :crybaby: as with the Osteoporosis they said the risk of fracture was too great and as I've only got two vertebrae left now I have to be careful.


SNAP!...Im in the same position now, After the 4x4 hit me & PhatGirl off the highway last year, the left shoulder has not recovered to well (It does still hold my arm on tho! :laugh:)
The problem being, is that the Guzzi is killing me!...I use her for everyday transport, and the shoulder just can't handle the violent lean forward and all the weight on the wrists that a 1100 sport induces :( (its why there nicknamed "torture racks"...painfull even WITH a good shoulder!)
So I may be forced to sell my baby due to medical reasons as well :weep:

...pritty pissed off and sad about the whole affair actually


Ohh...and Ive been cleared of cancer for about 10yrs now :)...I still get bugged for check ups tho :facepalm:

[Edbear]

SNAP!...Im in the same position now, After the 4x4 hit me & PhatGirl off the highway last year, the left shoulder has not recovered to well (It does still hold my arm on tho! :laugh:)
The problem being, is that the Guzzi is killing me!...I use her for everyday transport, and the shoulder just can't handle the violent lean forward and all the weight on the wrists that a 1100 sport induces :( (its why there nicknamed "torture racks"...painfull even WITH a good shoulder!)
So I may be forced to sell my baby due to medical reasons as well :weep:

...pritty pissed off and sad about the whole affair actually


Ohh...and Ive been cleared of cancer for about 10yrs now :)...I still get bugged for check ups tho :facepalm:

Life sucks at times... 10 years is great! Keep it up! :niceone:

You may need to swap for a standard or cruiser. I'd love a W800 as it is going to be a collectable. Better built and hand finished than the Bonnie's and I doubt it will have so long a production run.

[Maha]

Made an appointment for next Thursday. I could have gone on Monday but they said it was a holiday...:confused:
Something about 1840 and some land theft bullshit?

[Edbear]

Made an appointment for next Thursday. I could have gone on Monday but they said it was a holiday...:confused:
Something about 1840 and land some land theft bullshit?

Yeah but it'll be okay. Tariana Turia said she'll personally escort John onto the marae...

[beyond]

Got to watch the spots or an area that bleeds even if minor. I spotted a freckle that had been ok for years looking a little dodgy and had it checked. I was lucky I noticed it. Full on melanoma and a large section of chest chopped out under my left pectoral. Did a good job and the scar left looks like the line underneath the pectoral and they got it all.

Had a little bite on my nose thinking it was a mosquito bite but it kept bleeding everytime I towelled off and it it turned out it was a Basal Carcinoma if left would have eaten the nose away. Had that removed and a skin graft tossed in and also got the lot due to early diagnosis. Wasn't cheap, both ops went private as by the time the Public system gets to you they can get advanced and time makes a difference.

Trouble is as Ed points out we were the "throw on the cocunut oil and baste in the sun generation" but many of us are paying for it now. We didn't know any better than.

[Maha]

Our daughter was doing my wife's hair and found a couple of spots on her scalp. My wife has always had a fear of cancer as other family members have died from or dealt with one form or other. She has had a few small spots burnt off her hands and face over the years so is naturally sensitive and was immediately thinking the worst.

I had been discussing with her the suggestion we should both have a check up as it had been a few years since the last checks and we are children of the 60's and 70's when getting a tan was considered necessary and the darker the better.

We are privileged to have a local Dr. who is a skin cancer specialist and I booked us an appointment for this afternoon. Good news was we were both given a clean bill of health with nothing of concern so my dear wife was incredibly relieved!

Please everyone, do keep an eye on this issue, the Doc has seen too much tragedy and wishes all were proactive in getting themselves checked before something gets serious.

Does he call you Mr Ed?
He referred to me as Mr Mark...:confused:
Anyway, I got about 8-9 things zapped off my head a neck...need to make more regular visits.

[Zedder]

Take it from a survivor*....DON'T FUCK AROUND WITH CANCER!!

If in dought, get checked out!


*Had Cancer of the spine...that was trying to reach my heart, lungs and main organs...fought for over a year to beat that evil disease.
...its a fight I wouldn't wish upon my worst enemys.:no:

Damn right! A mate of mine thought he'd do the right thing and get a blood test for prostate cancer along with his usual checkup.

The results came back positive but luckily they got in early and he's been clear for the last 3 years. He was only 42 which apparently is really young for it to happen.

[Edbear]

Does he call you Mr Ed?
He referred to me as Mr Mark...:confused:
Anyway, I got about 8-9 things zapped off my head a neck...need to make more regular visits.

Ouch! Good thing you went! :eek:


Got to watch the spots or an area that bleeds even if minor. I spotted a freckle that had been ok for years looking a little dodgy and had it checked. I was lucky I noticed it. Full on melanoma and a large section of chest chopped out under my left pectoral. Did a good job and the scar left looks like the line underneath the pectoral and they got it all.

Had a little bite on my nose thinking it was a mosquito bite but it kept bleeding everytime I towelled off and it it turned out it was a Basal Carcinoma if left would have eaten the nose away. Had that removed and a skin graft tossed in and also got the lot due to early diagnosis. Wasn't cheap, both ops went private as by the time the Public system gets to you they can get advanced and time makes a difference.

Trouble is as Ed points out we were the "throw on the cocunut oil and baste in the sun generation" but many of us are paying for it now. We didn't know any better than.

Too many wish they did, eh?


Damn right! A mate of mine thought he'd do the right thing and get a blood test for prostate cancer along with his usual checkup.

The results came back positive but luckily they got in early and he's been clear for the last 3 years. He was only 42 which apparently is really young for it to happen.

You can't afford to generalise, eh? It can happen. I reckon anyone over 40 should get the checks done regardless. Your mate was lucky.

[Zedder]

Ouch! Good thing you went! :eek:



Too many wish they did, eh?



You can't afford to generalise, eh? It can happen. I reckon anyone over 40 should get the checks done regardless. Your mate was lucky.

Yep, he was lucky indeed. Interestingly enough, he celebrated by getting back into motorbikes.

His situation did however motivate me to get all the cancer checks done and thankfully all's well. It's so easy to do and when ya get the negative results ya feel bloody great!

[GingerMidget]

My dad was sitting on the deck smoking in the sun like he usually does, and i happened to be giving him grief about his bald spot, and noticed some weird marks. Instantly knew they were a form of cancer from my ex having had the exact same ones. He got the mother of all lectures after admitting to ignoring them.

He had them checked out today.

There are different degrees of skin cancer, and melanoma will kill you given half a chance. I had one removed from my right elbow nearly 4 years ago, and have yearly molemaps to make sure nothing else is changing. Its not worth fucking round with.

Watch someone you love fighting cancer, and tell me you don't have time to get yourself checked out.
Reminds me, must buy more sunblock today.

[Edbear]

My dad was sitting on the deck smoking in the sun like he usually does, and i happened to be giving him grief about his bald spot, and noticed some weird marks. Instantly knew they were a form of cancer from my ex having had the exact same ones. He got the mother of all lectures after admitting to ignoring them.

He had them checked out today.

There are different degrees of skin cancer, and melanoma will kill you given half a chance. I had one removed from my right elbow nearly 4 years ago, and have yearly molemaps to make sure nothing else is changing. Its not worth fucking round with.

Watch someone you love fighting cancer, and tell me you don't have time to get yourself checked out.
Reminds me, must buy more sunblock today.

How did he get on?

[MyGSXF]

My sister-in-laws brother died from a melanoma on the back of his leg.... think he was only 30.. with a young family :(

I had a mole map done a few months ago.. been wanting to get one done for ages (I have a lot of moles) but didn't have the spare $280 ish :no: then I scored a half price voucher off one of those the "grab a deal" or "one day" sites.. sweet! :Punk:

They have mapped 45 to be monitored! :eek:

& 1 on my back needs to come of asap!! :confused:

[Edbear]

My sister-in-laws brother died from a melanoma on the back of his leg.... think he was only 30.. with a young family :(

I had a mole map done a few months ago.. been wanting to get one done for ages (I have a lot of moles) but didn't have the spare $280 ish :no: then I scored a half price voucher off one of those the "grab a deal" or "one day" sites.. sweet! :Punk:

They have mapped 45 to be monitored! :eek:

& 1 on my back needs to come of asap!! :confused:

Good on you! Don't leave it! It's not only the moles that need checking either as Melanoma can appear in areas you don't notice it or expect it, like between the toes and fingers. Our local specialist examines all the skin including the soles of your feet. He said last visit that the backs of the hands and the forearms are the most resistant to cancer.

[GingerMidget]

Hey EdBear,
They are indeed a form of cancer, but not melanoma. Thank god for that! So at this stage, its watch, wait and when necessary remove.

He then yelled at me for getting sunburnt sitting outside yesterday reading a book. Apparently I should have been at work or something like that, to pay for his retirement. Dreams are free dad.

[dangerous]

Jeez, are you the only person alive who hasn't seen this?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/_4jgUcxMezM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>Iv not seen it and Id say milions havent... so your point?

Great promo vid, but why the ephasas on 16yr old?
My old man died from cancer initiated from a malanoma, which I will add was never found. Many tumers were tho all removed but alas once this shit is in the limp nodes ya well fucked, last thing I remember of him is nurses reaching up and clearing his bowel and him in a comer.

Thing is I have it aswell, a different skin cancer but with the same results, lucky for me so far im on to it and have had a couple of opps to remove, but it comes back just as fast. Well over due for another check up like most of us are.
Why do we delay, why do we put these checks off?
Farking money thats why, not cheap these checks and the ops even less than... what the shits do ya do aye?

[Edbear]

Iv not seen it and Id say milions havent... so your point?

Great promo vid, but why the ephasas on 16yr old?
My old man died from cancer initiated from a malanoma, which I will add was never found. Many tumers were tho all removed but alas once this shit is in the limp nodes ya well fucked, last thing I remember of him is nurses reaching up and clearing his bowel and him in a comer.

Thing is I have it aswell, a different skin cancer but with the same results, lucky for me so far im on to it and have had a couple of opps to remove, but it comes back just as fast. Well over due for another check up like most of us are.
Why do we delay, why do we put these checks off?
Farking money thats why, not cheap these checks and the ops even less than... what the shits do ya do aye?

Life sucks sometimes. This thread has been an eyeopener for us all. I have so far been cleared but have a couple of marks and moles I will be keeping an eye on. Meantime I am going through tests for kidney issues. Small matter of some red-coloured urine...

[GingerMidget]

Because 16 year olds are stupid. They don't wear sunblock, and think a tan is cool.

For me, cancer is not an option so I wear sunblock (most of the time) and get weird looking things looked at. I'm freckly cos I'm ginge, but even those can get a bit bent out of shape with enough sun damage.

[dangerous]

Life sucks sometimes. This thread has been an eyeopener for us all. I have so far been cleared but have a couple of marks and moles I will be keeping an eye on. Meantime I am going through tests for kidney issues. Small matter of some red-coloured urine...Its a bitch getting older, but with any luck it will happen... I know Ed if it aint one bloody thing its another, and what can we do bout it if not too late? diet, but shits sake its a hard one to follow.




Because 16 year olds are stupid. They don't wear sunblock, and think a tan is cool. but... so do 26,36 even some 46yr olds :mellow:

[Edbear]

Its a bitch getting older, but with any luck it will happen... I know Ed if it aint one bloody thing its another, and what can we do bout it if not too late? diet, but shits sake its a hard one to follow.

but... so do 26,36 even some 46yr olds :mellow:

Somehow despite life's best efforts most of us do get old. I've nealry died about five times so far and if anything serious is found this will be my sixth major challenge.

I think, though that the worst about this is that I will have to have an operation to remove a fairly large kidney stone before it causes too much mayhem.

The major issue I have with life is that it takes a lifetime to learn what it is all about and what to do about it... :mellow: