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White trash

23rd July 2005, 08:26

Well, after the first free practice session, it goes.
1: Edwards (Yay!)
2: Rossi (Yawn)
3: Hopkins (WTF?!)

See it here (http://www.motogp.com/en/motogp/results/results_2767.htm?event_id=2767&subevent_id=5032&result=35770)

Will it be Edwards first MotoGP win?

Zed

23rd July 2005, 08:32

White trash

23rd July 2005, 08:42

zadok

23rd July 2005, 09:54

Certainly possible, but the weather will no doubt make things awkward and Rossi is a master.

Matt Bleck

23rd July 2005, 11:05

Yeah I've been gunning for Edwards this year too.

Not that I don't think Rossi is the shit, but as ya say white trash, YAWN!!

Its good to see a WSBK champ doing well in the GP, lets hope he can stay consitant!!

FROSTY

23rd July 2005, 11:37

Thats exactly the problem with someone as good as rossi. It makes life friggin hard for the promoters dunnit--hard to keep people interested in watching

TwoSeven

23rd July 2005, 11:58

Valantino 'the poof' rossi will win on better tires. He will make the pass 5 laps from the end. :)

Bet rossi goes for the harder compound again.

sAsLEX

23rd July 2005, 13:27

Yeah, and I think after his magnificent pass on Rossi at Laguna, he'll be hungry for that first win. Donington has a habit of producing funny results though. Remember our own Simon Crafar giving the worlds best the learn 'round there to the tune of eleven seconds.

Yeah that pass took some rather large balls and a big scoop of skill! Kinda showed rossi out of his comfort zone Laguna.

Valantino 'the poof' rossi will win on better tires. He will make the pass 5 laps from the end.

Is it better tires, or tyres, or is it the fact that he rides around the fault. In races where everyones tyres are going off Rossi just seems to be able to ride with the back end, and front, stepping out in the corners.

I think it was assen where they showed him flying through a corner when the front followed by the back let go and he just caught it and carried on.

bugjuice

23rd July 2005, 14:01

rossirossirossirossirossi..
i think rossi.

sAsLEX

23rd July 2005, 14:07

rossirossirossirossirossi..
i think rossi.

I think the texan will be hard to beat, he has done well in the past here and his last race would of given him a bit of courage/knowledge that he can get past and stay infront of rossi.

bugjuice

23rd July 2005, 14:11

I think the texan will be hard to beat, he has done well in the past here and his last race would of given him a bit of courage/knowledge that he can get past and stay infront of rossi.
I'm sure he'll be a big threat, and I'm sure for the majority of the race, he'll be either up there, or leading. But 3 from the end, Rossi will pull out the big guns..

White trash

23rd July 2005, 14:15

I'm sure he'll be a big threat, and I'm sure for the majority of the race, he'll be either up there, or leading. But 3 from the end, Rossi will pull out the big guns..

What? Like he did in the USA?

Don't underestimate his teammate. Edwards has learned alot from Rossi in the first half of this season. Most notably that the young fellah always goes with a longer lasting tyre than his competitors. Edwards now has the bit between his teeth and is charging for his first race win. He played an amazingly mature race game at Laguna and it almost paid off.

I will also be interested as to how long the Suzuki of Hopper can stay with the leaders. Espeacially if it's wet.

As usual, it's gona be a fucken outstanding race.

sAsLEX

23rd July 2005, 14:16

I'm sure he'll be a big threat, and I'm sure for the majority of the race, he'll be either up there, or leading. But 3 from the end, Rossi will pull out the big guns..

and i note rossis bike was one of the faster in the pratice 275 or so only hayden was that quick as well, wonder why the others aren't faster than the Yam like they normally are?

TwoSeven

23rd July 2005, 15:09

Well I suspect the temp will be between 18-20C so I would expect rossi to put on a medium to medium hard rear and a medium or soft front. Edwards will most likely go for a medium front and a medium-soft to soft rear.

That means you'll see edwards up front for the first few laps (assuming a good start) and then fading at about lap 12. Rossi, if not already leading by then will move up at about lap 12, then if still not in the lead will push hard at the 3/4 distance mark.

Thats how I think they will go compared against each other. As to how the rest of the riders will go, I havn't looked at the latest standings.

Marknz

23rd July 2005, 18:45

Can Edwards win his first MotoGP race at Donington?

Yes he can, but I'm tipping he won't. Edwards will probably be top of the timesheets till about 3 minutes before the end of the qualifying session when Rossi will duck into the pits, have the lads put a super sticky qualifyer on, and then go out and grab the #1 slot on the grid. Then, as someone else mentioned, he'll probably trail the leaders in the race till about 5 laps from the end and then use the tyre he's been saving to win by about 2.5 seconds.

But of it rains... well fook me, even one of those Spewzukis might surprise the hell out of us.

gav

23rd July 2005, 20:50

I think Edwards has learned from his mistakes with tyres, his best bet is to use the same as Rossi, no excuses then...

riffer

23rd July 2005, 22:17

Damn. I'd like to see Hoppy win. Have Suzuki had a podium yet with the 990cc bikes?

But I fear the Rossi fans will be cheering again.

Marknz

24th July 2005, 08:13

from www.mcnews.com.au...

1. Rossi 1m27.89
2. Gibernau 1m28.18
3. Melandri 1m28.29
4. Barros 1m28.39
5. Hayden 1m28.41
6. Edwards 1m28.65
7. Bayliss 1m28.72
8. Biaggi 1m28.72
9. Tamada 1m28.97
10. Hopkins 1m29.23

White trash

24th July 2005, 08:59

Rain ya bastard! :devil2:

pritch

24th July 2005, 14:48

This from the MotoGP website:

"Rossi has an exceptional record at the Derbyshire track. With the exception of 2003, when he was given a time penalty after crossing the line first, Valentino Rossi has won on each of the six other occasions he has finished at Donington; the 125cc race in 1997, the 250cc race in 1999 and in the premier-class in 2000, 2001, 2002 and 2004. His victory at Donington in 2000 was his first ever win in the 500cc class."

Ok, I rate Edwards too but that record strongly suggests that if Rossi can finish he will win.

Marknz

24th July 2005, 21:05

www.motogp.com

The Derbyshire weather came to spice things up ahead of the warm-up at Donington, as the track was completely wet after early rain, which stopped about half an hour before the first 125 session.

In the minor class, Gabor Talmacsi was the quickest, with a fastest lap set in 1’51.039 – almost 15 seconds off the qualifying pace. The Hungarian finished ahead of Spanish rookie Jordi Carchano, who was 1’865 adrift. Aprilia’s Mattia Pasini was third ahead of Tom Lüthi and Julián Simón.

Many riders were caught by the tricky conditions : Bautista, Simoncelli, Poggiali and Faubel joined a list of eleven riders who crashed out in this last session before the race, all walking unhurt

gav

24th July 2005, 21:52

Damp in the warm up, KRJR fastest :rofl:

TwoSeven

24th July 2005, 22:52

Better dry out before the race. Donnington was never a good place in the wet.

I see gibbering wreck is in 2nd and melandri up there two. Hopefully melandri can do some good work - maybe he wont fade this time.

onearmedbandit

25th July 2005, 01:14

250cc race and its pouring down...

Riff Raff

25th July 2005, 02:03

250cc race and its pouring down...
Bloody good race - got pretty exciting towards the finish! Some good saves there.

White trash

25th July 2005, 09:18

Awesome stuff. Finaly, I get to see a Suzuki rider on the podium.

Rossi has got to be the smartest bastard out there. I was thinking after he ran off the track, the lay down a couple of 1:48 second laps to catch up, "Hang on, that's over a second down on what the 250s were doing. He's gotta have more speed."

Sure enough, 5 laps from the end, a 47, a 45, he's got a 4 second lead.

Maximum respect to Ant West on the KTM 250 in its debut race too. That man deserves a :drinkup:

bugjuice

25th July 2005, 09:24

I tried to watch, but me eyes wouldn't let me!! Saw all the 125s race, what a fukin race!!! Those guys are tallented in those conditions.. Looks like I'll have to catch the 250s and Motos highlights next week..

Warr

25th July 2005, 11:17

Darn, Set the video on for agers but running the 125's first I only got to lap 10 of the MotoGp.
Anyone got any links where you can d/load the whole race ?

erik

25th July 2005, 18:57

Normally I don't watch the 125's or 250's. I did this time though, I think it really made me appreciate how slippery it was and the skill of the motogp riders. Rossi is unreal...

Warr, I've captured the motogp, so if no one posts a link (gav?) I could put it on cd and post it to you.

sAsLEX

25th July 2005, 20:53

gav

25th July 2005, 21:08

Seems MotoGP have closed alot of the back door links now, they seem to be pretty scarce. You can always join the MotoGP site and pay a subscription to get full access.

erik

25th July 2005, 21:34

I did too but is 10.7 gig, and missed the end due to it being delayed poo
Have you got uni tomorrow? I could drop you off a copy on cd if you want? (of the main motogp race, didn't record the 125's or much of the 250's)

sAsLEX

25th July 2005, 22:40

I caught the majority of it, dont worry I will watch the 125s and 250s if i get some time, cheers for the offer though

gav

26th July 2005, 22:18

Valantino 'the poof' rossi will win on better tires. He will make the pass 5 laps from the end. :)

Bet rossi goes for the harder compound again.
:Oi: Mr Rossi has a message for you, sunshine.....
Nothing to do with the friggen tyres.....

pritch

26th July 2005, 22:52

:Oi: Mr Rossi has a message for you, sunshine.....

Ahhh that Nastro Azzura. I tried it in Sydney in April, nice beer but a Hell of a price!

Never mind, if it's good enough for Rossi I won't turn my nose up at it :-)

sAsLEX

27th July 2005, 09:07

http://www.denvercs.net/m0t0-gp/donington.wmv

untested

TwoSeven

27th July 2005, 12:58

:Oi: Mr Rossi has a message for you, sunshine.....
Nothing to do with the friggen tyres.....

Ha ha. :)

So he didnt use a medium and medium/soft then.

He used his standard strat, but what was good about the race is that it was a very clear example of race craft. How to create the three stages, how to control your attack - pace etc. Even making the couple of errors he did was a good demonstration on recovery.

Eddieb

27th July 2005, 15:01

http://www.denvercs.net/m0t0-gp/donington.wmv

untested

Legend. IF you take the file name off all this years races are there.

http://www.denvercs.net/m0t0-gp/

Brian d marge

28th July 2005, 01:35

[QUOTE=Eddieb]Legend. IF you take the file name off all this years races are there.

http://www.denvercs.net/m0t0-gp/[/QUOTE

Look to those who find these files on the internet ,,,I can only say thank you from the bottom of my heart ...The moto gp is broadcast at o dark hundred in the morning ,,on Chanal never seen ...

So the ONLY time i can see the racing ( just about to watch Laguna ) is when you lot post the web addresses ,,thank you ,,a BIG thank you

Donnington ,,,, How does the Rossi ( the poof) do it eh ,,,,the man is a Legend ...I mean he cleared of to a 2 second lead in just over 1 lap amazing just amazing ...

Stephen