Coolant that doubles the boiling temp?

[Bassmatt]

Anybody know or have an opinion on if this stuff is any good to use
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/performance/auction-443234001.htm

[Spuds1234]

Ask the seller what exactly the liquid is (the chemical name) and then google it. There is a wealth of info online for just about every chemical known to man.

[Flip]

Just sounds like a strong solution of Ethelyene (toxic) or Propylene (non toxic) Glycol and water to me.

It would be impossible to confirm the BP claim because you dont know what assumptions they have made about the cooling system pressure.

Sounds like snake oil to me because they compare this product against water at atmospheric pressure, at 10 bar water boils at 180 deg C.

[neels]

The coolant I run (because I get it free from work) has a boiling point of 197°C. So nothing new really.

[Mental Trousers]

Looks like it might be this stuff (not sure though)

http://liquidintelligence115.com.au/

[bikaholic]

Looks like it might be this stuff (not sure though)

http://liquidintelligence115.com.au/Wow, liquidintelligence, it must fly off the shelf.

[neels]

Looks like it might be this stuff (not sure though)

http://liquidintelligence115.com.au/
That webpage is like an internet version of an infomercial

Have asked a question on the auction for the MSDS...might find out what it actually is.

[bikaholic]

Anybody know or have an opinion on if this stuff is any good to use
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/performance/auction-443234001.htmWhy would you be wanting to double the boiling point of your coolant?

[cs363]

Looks like it might be this stuff (not sure though)

http://liquidintelligence115.com.au/

Yep, that's the stuff.

[FJRider]

I have the opinion ... it's not the temperatures the coolant can stand ... but the temperatures the alloy engine parts can stand ...

Something is badly wrong if engine temp's are getting higher than (water) boiling level ...

[bikaholic]

I have the opinion ... it's not the temperatures the coolant can stand ... but the temperatures the alloy engine parts can stand ...

Something is badly wrong if engine temp's are getting higher than (water) boiling level ...I've heard oil boiling in a crankcase, more than once, it makes a crackling sound.

[FJRider]

I've heard oil boiling in a crankcase, more than once, it makes a crackling sound.

As a child ... staying with Granparents here in Alexandra ... fuel stations in the area, were supplied PETROL from railway tank wagons, which were left sitting in the sun in the railway yard. All the wagons were painted BLACK. It was possible to walk past those wagons ... and hear the petrol boiling on hotter days ...

[cs363]

That webpage is like an internet version of an infomercial

Yeah I agree, even if the product was good the cheesey website puts me off!


Have asked a question on the auction for the MSDS...might find out what it actually is.

It'll be interesting to see if they'll give out any real information..... :corn:

[Bassmatt]

Thanks everyone. Keep up the good work.

[bikaholic]

Thanks everyone. Keep up the good work.no worries.

. LET THE ENGINE GO ABOVE 100 DEG C, THE ENGINE CAN TAKE IT AIR COOLED ENGINES AEROPLANES/MOTORBIKES RUN AT 250 DEG C ALL THE TIME - IT'S THE WATER IN THE COOLING SYSTEM THAT IS THE WEAKNESS. ONCE A WATER BASED COOLING SYSTEM REACHES JUST OVER 100 DEG C AND BOILS THE WATER STOPS TRANSFERING HEAT TO THE RADIATOR.

Why not just drain the coolant, remove the radiator and run the with air cooled.

[FJRider]

Why not just drain the coolant, remove the radiator and run the with air cooled.

As a general rule ... liquid cooled engines don't have engine fins to aid cooling ... and any they did have, was literally for decoration ...

[pete376403]

no worries.

. LET THE ENGINE GO ABOVE 100 DEG C, THE ENGINE CAN TAKE IT AIR COOLED ENGINES AEROPLANES/MOTORBIKES RUN AT 250 DEG C ALL THE TIME - IT'S THE WATER IN THE COOLING SYSTEM THAT IS THE WEAKNESS. ONCE A WATER BASED COOLING SYSTEM REACHES JUST OVER 100 DEG C AND BOILS THE WATER STOPS TRANSFERING HEAT TO THE RADIATOR.

Where does this load of crap come from? All cooling systems are pressurised which raises the boing point.



http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/boiling-point-water-d_926.html

[scumdog]

Where does this load of crap come from? All cooling systems are pressurised which raises the boing point.



http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/boiling-point-water-d_926.html

'boing':blink:

[pete-blen]

the other point about running a cooling system under preasure..
the preasure aids heat transfur due to surface contact force...

a interesting fact...
I worked at Dominion salt..
in the VP plant we boiled water at 42c
by running the plant under 4 hegs of vacume..
( boiled..infact it turned it to steam at 42c)

So just a thought that came to mined..

Imagine what a unpreasureised system would /could / might
do at a 1000 or 2000 feet above sea level...

[bikaholic]

It is interseting that the OP started this thread and a few days later he started a thread about the price of a replacement burnt out radiator cooling fan.

[FJRider]

Imagine what a unpreasureised system would /could / might
do at a 1000 or 2000 feet above sea level...

It is known by climbers ... how hard it is to "boil" water on Everest ... 28,000 ft

[bikaholic]

It is known by climbers ... how hard it is to "boil" water on Everest ... 28,000 ftjust take up some anhydrous ammonia, you wont even need a match.

[quickbuck]

It is known by climbers ... how hard it is to "boil" water on Everest ... 28,000 ft

Well, i think hte boiling is the easy bit, it is actually getting the food hot that is tricky, is it not?
Could be wrong, often am.

[bikaholic]

Well, i think hte boiling is the easy bit, it is actually getting the food hot that is tricky, is it not?
Could be wrong, often am.yep, that would be the reason that there is no Maccas up there.

[quickbuck]

yep, that would be the reason that there is no Maccas up there.

Since when has Maccas been hot??

Back to topic (so we don't get PD'd):
Pressure has a lot to do with boiling points, hence the reason to run the correct cap on your bike.... it is as important as running a coolant additive in the system.

The Motul stuff I picked up the other day (for race use) actually runs at a 5% concerntration in the water, so the $40 500ml bottle actually works out to be good value in my opinion.

[bikaholic]

Since when has Maccas been hot??

Back to topic (so we don't get PD'd):
Pressure has a lot to do with boiling points, hence the reason to run the correct cap on your bike.... it is as important as running a coolant additive in the system.

The Motul stuff I picked up the other day (for race use) actually runs at a 5% concerntration in the water, so the $40 500ml bottle actually works out to be good value in my opinion.correct, additives raise the boiling point, lowers the freezing point, and adds corrision inhibitors, however not every additive provides all three.

[FJRider]

correct, additives raise the boiling point, lowers the freezing point, and adds corrision inhibitors, however not every additive provides all three.

Which is why a regular flush and replacement of the coolant is usually reccomended ...