How many Kiwi world champions are/were there?

[flyingcrocodile46]

I read recently that Aussie has turned out 28 world champion motorcyclists (all categories) and figured that NZ has probably had at least half that many.

Has anyone published (or have access to that sort of info)?

[blackdog]

Only 28? I reckon we could almost match that.

I'll kick you off with Ivan Mauger with 9 world championships, and Katherine Prumm with 2. Hugh Anderson had 4.

I think Ben Townley and Shayne King have 1 apiece?

[scott411]

add Barry Brigss and Ronnie Moore, (speedway
Shayne King MX
Tony Cooksley MX Vet

Greame Crosby RR
Hugh Anderson RR

Stefan Merriman (trails Jnr and i think World Enduro as well)

[flyingcrocodile46]

add Barry Brigss and Ronnie Moore, (speedway
Shayne King MX
Tony Cooksley MX Vet

Greame Crosby RR
Hugh Anderson RR

Stefan Merriman (trails Jnr and i think World Enduro as well)

I didn't have Tony Cooksley ?? will check him out.

Those that I have found are as follows

Hugh Anderson
GP wins 50cc in 63 & 64
and 125cc in 63 & 65
IOM 125cc in 63
IOM 50cc in 64


Bruce Anstey
8 IOM TT wins though not sure of years or classes


Barry Briggs
Speedway World Individual Champion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedway_World_Championship) 1957, 1958, 1964, 1966
Speedway World Team Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedway_World_Team_Cup) 1968, 1971


Rod Coleman
Isle of Man TT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man_TT) 1954 Junior TT


Graeme Crosby
Isle of Man Senior TT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senior_TT) 1980
Isle of Man TTF1 and Classic in 1981
Formula One (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Formula_TT) 1000cc World Champion 1980
500cc UK Champion 80 and '81


Robert Holden
Isle of Man TT (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_Man_TT) 1995 Singles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995_Isle_of_Man_TT)


Dennis Ireland
1982 Isle of Man TT feature even


Shayne King
F.I.M. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fédération_Internationale_de_Motocyclisme) world 500cc championship 1996


Ivan Mauger
World Speedway Champion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedway_World_Championship) 1968, 1969, 1970, 1972, 1977, 1979
Long Track World Champion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individual_Long_Track_World_Championship) 1971, 1972, 1976
World Pairs Champion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedway_World_Pairs_Championship) 1969, 1970
World Team Cup winner (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedway_World_Team_Cup) 1968, 1971, 1972, 1979


Ronnie Moore
World Champion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedway_World_Championship) 1954, 1959
World Pairs Champion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speedway_World_Pairs_Championship) 1970


Burt Munro (can we count him?)
Current World record for the fastest naturally aspirated twin less than 1000cc since 1967


Ben Townley
MX2 World Championship (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motocross_World_Championship_results) 2004


Stefan Merriman
World Enduro Champion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Enduro_Championship) 2000 (250cc), 2001 (400cc), 2003 (250cc) and 2004 (Enduro 1).



Katherine Prumm
2006 and 2007 Womens world Motocross Champion (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.dirtrider.com/news/141_0605_2006_womens_motocross_nationals_round_one _race_results/index.html&sa=U&ei=y0wuT4fzF--MmQX8s6iTBA&ved=0CA0QFjAE&client=internal-uds-cse&usg=AFQjCNGvaJHRx_PaZL61ezC2KMZIm-drRQ)

(edit) Now added
Tony Cooksley
World veterans' motocross champion in 2007

That makes 15.......... If IOM TT's and land speed records are counted???? I seem to recall that the IOM TT's were considered to be a stand alone World championship untill the 80's?? or am I just dreaming?

[xxcbr69xx]

Crosby never won a 500cc championship!

[blackdog]

Better count Shaun then if you are including IOM wins.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Crosby never won a 500cc championship!

Not the GP, but I believe that he did win two 500cc F1 world championships (as well as two or three British nationals)


Better count Shaun then if you are including IOM wins.

Sounds fair but to be honest I don't think the aussie count of 28 included IOM TT's or land speed records (though not sure as the book I read didn't list them all... knowing the way they operate it's likely some are kiws anyway). Am keen to hear what others opinions are on that side of things.

[blackdog]

Not the GP, but I believe that he did win two 500cc F1 world championships (as well as two or three British nationals)




TTF1 champion '80 and '81.

[tigertim20]

didnt Larry Ross win a few in Solos too?

[Rcktfsh]

didnt Larry Ross win a few in Solos too?

Larry Ross won a world teams championship, Croz won 2 TTF1 championships onlyrun over 3 rounds from memory with the TT being one rnd, the bike were 1000cc 4 stroke.

Great effort that Anstey has had at the TT his titles there can't really be compared to Anderson which were won back in the day when it was a kosher world championship round against the best riders in the world.

[nadroj]

Graeme Sutton won the World TQ title (which is motorcycle related).

[Deano]

9 riders winning 35 World Championships, according to Rhys Jones, Legends on 2 Wheels, 2009.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Larry Ross won a world teams championship, Croz won 2 TTF1 championships only run over 3 rounds from memory with the TT being one rnd, the bike were 1000cc 4 stroke.

Great effort that Anstey has had at the TT his titles there can't really be compared to Anderson which were won back in the day when it was a kosher world championship round against the best riders in the world.

I did a search on Larry ross and couldn't find any record of world championship wins. Do you have the info on his wins and are they recorded anywhere?

Yes Anstley is amazing but I'm starting to think that IOM wins shouldn't count as world championship wins.. Though if someone knows a bit about the IOM history in international standings (as a standalone world championship), I would be pleased to hear about it.

Other great riders who really should have/deserved to win a world championship.
Keith Tucker,
Ginger Malloy,
Kim Newcomb,
Aron slight,


9 riders winning 35 World Championships, according to Rhys Jones, Legends on 2 Wheels, 2009.

I started with that but he has missed some who have definitely won world championships. Katherine Prumm, Stefan Merriman and Tony Cooksley (equal to 33% of the number he acknowledged as world champs)... He may have missed others which is the reason for this thread.

Starting to think that team events probably shouldn't count either ?? difficult to know when the comparrison claim of 28 aussie winners isn't substansiated with any details.

[Katman]

Larry ross
Anstley
Keith Tucker,
Kim Newcomb,
Aron slight,


Fuck's sake, if you're going to throw names about at least spell them properly.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Fuck's sake, if you're going to throw names about at least spell them properly.

If (as usual) all you have to contribute is criticism, then fuck off you overgrown clitoris.

[Katman]

I mean, who the fuck is Keith Tucker?

[cs363]

I mean, who the fuck is Keith Tucker?

Isn't he Simon Tucker's father? :innocent:

[SPman]

Hugh Anderson
GP wins 50cc in 63 & 64
and 125cc in 63 & 65
World Champion, please, not just wins. That's four time World Champion!

[Maha]

Some old chap at the Classics today (pukekohe) said NZ had 22 world motorcycling champions.

[blackdog]

Some old chap at the Classics today (pukekohe) said NZ had 22 world motorcycling champions.

Thats gotta be right then.

[scott411]

good place to start if you want to have a look,

http://www.mnz.co.nz/rollofhonour.aspx

[Conquiztador]

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World 500cc GP Champions:

Mick Doohan (AUS) 1998-94; 54 GP wins
Wayne Gardner (AUS) 1987; 18 GP wins
World 350cc GP Champion:

Keith Campbell (AUS) 1957
World 250cc GP Champion:

Kel Carruthers (AUS) 1969
World 125 GP Champion:

Tom Phillis (AUS) 1961
World F750 Champion:

Jack Findlay (AUS) 1975


World Superbike Champion:

Troy Corser (AUS) 1996
Troy Bayliss (AUS) 2001
World Supersport Champion:

Chris Vermeulen (AUS) 2003
Andrew Pitt (AUS) 2001
World Endurance Champion:

Warwick Nowland (AUS) 2000
World Enduro Champion:

Stefan Merriman (AUS) 250cc - 2000, 2002, 2003
Shane Watts (AUS) 125cc - 1997, KTM


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Troy Bayliss (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/riders/Bayliss.asp)[/URL] - World Superbike Champion; British Superbike Champion



2003 MotoGP Ducati
2001 World Superbike Champion
1999 British Superbike Champion




Keith Campbell (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/riders/Bayliss.asp) - Australia's first World Champion: 350cc GP 1957; 3 GP wins



1957 wins World 350cc GP championship with Moto Guzzi




Kel Carruthers (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/riders/Campbell_K.asp) - World Champion: 250cc GP 1969; 7 250 GP wins



1969 wins World 250cc GP championship with Benelli




John Dodds - 4 GP wins (250cc, 350cc, 125cc)



1970 -1974




Mick Doohan (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/riders/Carruthers_K.asp)500cc GP (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/riders/Doohan.asp) - 5 times world champion



1998 wins world 500cc GP championship
1997 wins world 500cc GP championship
1996 wins world 500cc GP championship
1995 wins world 500cc GP championship
1994 wins world 500cc GP championship




Jack Findlay (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/riders/Findlay.asp)500cc GP (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/riders/Findlay.asp) ; 3 GP wins



wins 3 world 500cc GPs
1968: championship runner-up in to Agostini
1975: wins world F750 championship




Wayne Gardener (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/riders/Gardner.asp)500cc GP (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/riders/Gardner.asp) champion



twice winner Suzuka 8 Hour
1987 wins world 500cc GP championship




Gregg Hansford (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/riders/Hansford.asp) - 250cc, 350cc, 750cc GP; 10 GP wins



1978 250cc GP - runner-up with Kawasaki; 350cc GP - 3rd overall with Kawasaki
1979 250cc GP - runner-up with Kawasaki; 350cc GP - 3rd overall with Kawasaki
1980 runner-up Suzuka 8 Hour




Ken Kavanagh - 5 GP wins (350cc, 500cc)



1953 - first Australian to win GP; Ulster 500cc GP, Ireland




Jeff Leisk (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/riders/Hansford.asp) - Motocross championship (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/riders/Leisk.asp)



1979-84: 5 times Australian Motocross Champion
1989 - world 500cc motocross championship; 2 wins
1990 - world 500cc motocross championship; 1 win




Kevin Magee - 500cc GP (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/GP/default.htm)



1987 wins Suzuka 8 Hour
1988 500cc GP with factory Yamaha; 5th overall




Rob Phillis - World Superbike Championship (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/world_superbike/default.htm)



1992 finished 3rd with Kawasaki
1991 finished 3rd with Kawasaki
1990 finished 4th with Kawasaki
1989 finished 10th with Kawasaki




Tom Phillis (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/riders/Phillis_T.asp)[URL="http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/riders/Phillis_T.asp"] - World Champion 125cc GP 1961; 6 GP wins (125cc, 250cc)



1961 wins 125cc GP world championship (Honda)
1961 250cc GP, runner-up to M Hailwood




Barry Smith - 4 GP wins (50cc,125cc)



1968 - 1979




Shane Watts - Australian and World Enduro champion



6 times Australian Enduro Champion.
1997 World Enduro Champion (125)
1998 ISDE (International Six Day Enduro) overall champion. The only rider to win the ISDE overall on a 125cc.
2000 GNCC (Grand National Cross Country Championship) champion; the first non American to do so. The only one to win GNCC races on more than one engine capacity motorcycle, riding six capacities in one year


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[blackdog]

So they've got 14?

No MX'rs?

[blackdog]

Honorable mention for Levi too, although he doesn't have a championship he has certainly won world events.

Do we have any trials guys?

[Bender]

Good to see the Aussies can't spell their world champion's names either.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Not the GP, but I believe that he did win two 500cc F1 world championships (as well as two or three British nationals)



Sounds fair but to be honest I don't think the aussie count of 28 included IOM TT's or land speed records (though not sure as the book I read didn't list them all... knowing the way they operate it's likely some are kiws anyway). Am keen to hear what others opinions are on that side of things.

F1 was not 500cc: it was either 750 or 1000cc (or more: IIRC there were some 1025cc Kawasakis)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Stefan Merriman (trails Jnr and i think World Enduro as well)





Stefan Merriman
World Enduro Champion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Enduro_Championship) 2000 (250cc), 2001 (400cc), 2003 (250cc) and 2004 (Enduro 1).



Problem with Stefan, is even though we all know he's a Kiwi, he took out Australian citizenship before winning most (if not all) of his Enduro Championships. He won the World Youth Trials Championship as a Kiwi though. So those bloody Oztralians will be claiming him and his titles.

[scott411]

Problem with Stefan, is even though we all know he's a Kiwi, he took out Australian citizenship before winning most (if not all) of his Enduro Championships. He won the World Youth Trials Championship as a Kiwi though. So those bloody Oztralians will be claiming him and his titles.

you can not blame him for riding enduro for australia, as they send a full team every year to the ISDE, he has dual citizenship as far as i know so we can claim him as well,

[Crasherfromwayback]

you can not blame him for riding enduro for australia, as they send a full team every year to the ISDE, he has dual citizenship as far as i know so we can claim him as well,

I dunno that he has mate. He may've traded us in from memory!

[scott411]

I dunno that he has mate. He may've traded us in from memory!

fuck it, he was born here, we are adding him to the list

[Crasherfromwayback]

fuck it, he was born here, we are adding him to the list

Yeah. The fucking Aussies can keep that dork Russell Crowe instead.

[flyingcrocodile46]

F1 was not 500cc: it was either 750 or 1000cc (or more: IIRC there were some 1025cc Kawasakis)

My bad. Just checked and see you are right. I guess I had my rose tinted glasses on when reading the results in the back of Crosby's book and counted his UK 500 championship wins.


Yeah. The fucking Aussies can keep that dork Russell Crowe instead.
Lol. I think most Kiwis would pay extra tax to have all record of his time in NZ deleted. His unpopularity here says a lot considering our usual reluctance to allow Arsetrailer to take credit for things Kiwi:laugh:

[jellywrestler]

Crosby never won a 500cc championship!Nor even a race for that matter

[PeteJ]

I heard the other day that NZ had 27 world championships, but I can't get there from my (foggy) memory.

Ivan Mauger - 6

Hugh Anderson - 4

Barry Briggs - 4

Stefan Merriman (yes, he is a Kiwi, and I used to see him riding here as a kid with his dad Warwick) - 4

Graeme Crosby (F1) - 2

Katherine Prumm - 2

Shayne King - 1.

So only 7 world champions.

[nadroj]

I heard the other day that NZ had 27 world championships, but I can't get there from my (foggy) memory.

Ivan Mauger - 6

Hugh Anderson - 4

Barry Briggs - 4

Stefan Merriman (yes, he is a Kiwi, and I used to see him riding here as a kid with his dad Warwick) - 4

Graeme Crosby (F1) - 2

Katherine Prumm - 2

Shayne King - 1.

So only 7 world champions.


Ronnie Moore - 1

Ivan also had long track world championchips. A combined total of 15

[flyingcrocodile46]

Ronnie Moore - 1

Ivan also had long track world championchips. A combined total of 15

Not to forget
Ben Townley MX2 World champion 2004 and,
Tony CooksleyWorld veterans' motocross champion in 2007

Makes 10 then.

If Conquiztadors post (#22) is right and arsetrailer only has 13 then NZ has way more world champions per capita than them. Approx 3 times as many.

Anyone able to confirm our neighbour's stats?