Flawed logic, only bikers speed?

[tigertim20]

found this video. interesting watch.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFvRegBt-4U&feature=g-vrec&context=G2881bdfRVAAAAAAAACA

Notice how, when he clocks the bikes that are moving really fast, he is concealed behind a car, and radars the riders from behind, after they have passed, then comments on how fast they are going.
When he radars the cars, to point out that the cars are 'all travelling at, or below the speed limit' that the first shot shows a car over the limit (which is 45mph) and that when radaring the cars, he is standing on the roadside, upright, easily visible, pointing the radar directly at oncoming traffic which can see him, and of course slow down for fear it's a cop.

Fucking journalists.

[Katman]

Notice how, when he clocks the bikes that are moving really fast, he is concealed behind a car, and radars the riders from behind, after they have passed, then comments on how fast they are going.
When he radars the cars, to point out that the cars are 'all travelling at, or below the speed limit' that the first shot shows a car over the limit (which is 45mph) and that when radaring the cars, he is standing on the roadside, upright, easily visible, pointing the radar directly at oncoming traffic which can see him, and of course slow down for fear it's a cop.

Fucking journalists.

Who gives a fuck how they go about putting the information across.

They're not making anything up.

[GingerMidget]

when radaring the cars, he is standing on the roadside, upright, easily visible, pointing the radar directly at oncoming traffic which can see him, and of course slow down for fear it's a cop.

Fucking journalists.

Kick him in the girly bits :bleh:

[TrentNz]

Anyone who overtakes into a blind corner deserves to die.

[Madness]

Meh, I saw none of them getting a knee down on those curvy, curvy roads.

[SMOKEU]

It's always interesting to see a cagers perspective on sports bike riders. The speeds may seem crazy to them, but cagers just don't realise how fast bikes can accelerate. Even on a decent 600cc bike 200kmh isn't that fast.

[Katman]

Even on a decent 600cc bike 200kmh isn't that fast.

It is when something unexpected appears in front of you.

[FJRider]

Bikers do not speed ..

They exceed an illogical and politically biased limit, arbitralily set, and enforced with a monetary based penalty system, publicised by the creation of a media enhanced ... public admonition - ad nauseam. :innocent:

Cage pilot however ... have criminal intent in their every action ... lock the bastards up ... :doh:

[Scuba_Steve]

in 3 years they've had 13 deaths in 5 Georgia counties & 2 of these came from the cop chase they mentioned, given the amount of traffic I'm seeing, they're making this a bigger problem than it is.

[bikaholic]

in 3 years they've had 13 deaths in 5 Georgia counties & 2 of these came from the cop chase they mentioned, given the amount of traffic I'm seeing, they're making this a bigger problem than it is.they did mention more than 300 accidents...

[Conquiztador]

in 3 years they've had 13 deaths in 5 Georgia counties & 2 of these came from the cop chase they mentioned, given the amount of traffic I'm seeing, they're making this a bigger problem than it is.

Nothing new.:zzzz:

[tigertim20]

They're not making anything up.

since you seem to have problems with basic comprehension I'll make it easy for you.
Im not saying they are making anything up, Im saying that most bikers would have also slowed somewhat if they had placed themselves in a position where the bikers could see them pointing a radar gun, like they did for the cars. thats all.

p.s.
suck my cock.:Punk:

[bikaholic]

since you seem to have problems with basic comprehension I'll make it easy for you.
Im not saying they are making anything up, Im saying that most bikers would have also slowed somewhat if they had placed themselves in a position where the bikers could see them pointing a radar gun, like they did for the cars. thats all.

p.s.
suck my cock.:Punk:doesn't matter, they only set out to find what sportsbikes could do, now every nanny doing their knitting while watching southpark knows, but they still won't comprehend 200mph as a speed, only a number.

[Katman]

since you seem to have problems with basic comprehension I'll make it easy for you.
Im not saying they are making anything up, Im saying that most bikers would have also slowed somewhat if they had placed themselves in a position where the bikers could see them pointing a radar gun, like they did for the cars. thats all.

p.s.
suck my cock.:Punk:

I've got no problem with comprehension.

Like I said - they're not making anything up.

[sil3nt]

Im saying that most bikers would have also slowed somewhat if they had placed themselves in a position where the bikers could see them pointing a radar gun, like they did for the cars. thats all.:laugh: you can't be serious?

[Scuba_Steve]

they did mention more than 300 accidents...

306 accidents from at-least 10.7million vehicles, still not seeing a massive deal. It's only a 0.003% accident rate & a 0.0001% death toll.
But hey gotta justify the scam right, those donuts won't pay for themselves :Police:

[Scuba_Steve]

Im not saying they are making anything up, Im saying that most bikers would have also slowed somewhat if they had placed themselves in a position where the bikers could see them pointing a radar gun, like they did for the cars. thats all.


Well apart from a couple, the bikes did slow when :Police: was visible proving your theory.

[Katman]

306 accidents from at-least 10.7million vehicles, still not seeing a massive deal. It's only a 0.003% accident rate & a 0.0001% death toll.
But hey gotta justify the scam right, those donuts won't pay for themselves :Police:

See that's the problem.

Numbers mean jack-shit. Perception is everything.

You retarded fucks just don't get it yet.

[bikaholic]

306 accidents from at-least 10.7million vehicles, still not seeing a massive deal. It's only a 0.003% accident rate & a 0.0001% death toll.
But hey gotta justify the scam right, those donuts won't pay for themselves :Police:I don't think it is 'all about the sportsbikers' though, there are several other million road users (sharers) who have a right to be safe in sue them all USA.

[hayd3n]

so if somones speeding and isint caught its safe?
or if theres radars everywhere it safer?
i to would slow down if i saw a radar pointing my way

[DrunkenMistake]

See that's the problem.

Numbers mean jack-shit. Perception is everything.

You retarded fucks just don't get it yet.

When they do 200km into a blind corner on the wrong side of the road, they still probably wouldnt get it.
Regardless to how they tested to speed and regardless the number of accidents and deaths,
The point of the video was to show that the common speeder and wreckless behaviour from any motor vehicle using that stretch of road was the sportsbike riders, not the cruisers or the tourers or the cars or SUV's,
In either case they set out to make sportsbike riders look like brain dead suicide jockeys, even if they had tested the speed of all the cars and bikes the same, they still showed footage of bikes over taking cars on retarded corners and at retarded speeds.

Which brings what Kitty Kat said, "Perception is everything", There are car enthusiasts here in New Zealand who own souped up cars and belong to customs clubs, they respect their cars and alot of them do the speed limit, they dont attend street racers so on so on, but because some bogan ass knuckle dragging muppet has lowered his sick as honda civic and thinks its hot shit, he has created the perception that all modified cars are owned by irresponsible pot smoking young adults.

Hows did I do? :eek:

[SMOKEU]

People tend to forget that for every crazy sports bike rider there's at least another 50 cagers who txt while driving, don't look properly at intersections, cut corners and do other behaviour that is far more dangerous to innocent members of the public than a nutter on a Japanese crotch rocket. It's just easier to catch and blame the biker than the 40 year old accountant who drives a late model luxury German SUV.

[mashman]

It is when something unexpected appears in front of you.

Than it becomes an unfortunate accident.

[bikaholic]

Than it becomes an unfortunate accident.oopps, there's that word again.

[DrunkenMistake]

oopps, there's that word again.

http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/038/2/4/and_zordons_gonna_zord_by_kuroikii-d4oylw1.gif


There we go

[SILVER SUZI]

So what was the point of the article? Do they think that will slow down the squids........................... or did they just tell every other squid that did'nt know about them curvy curves, where they can go scare cagers shitless and not get a ticket?:devil2:

[HenryDorsetCase]

found this video. interesting watch.

Notice how, when he clocks the bikes that are moving really fast, he is concealed behind a car, and radars the riders from behind, after they have passed, then comments on how fast they are going.
When he radars the cars, to point out that the cars are 'all travelling at, or below the speed limit' that the first shot shows a car over the limit (which is 45mph) and that when radaring the cars, he is standing on the roadside, upright, easily visible, pointing the radar directly at oncoming traffic which can see him, and of course slow down for fear it's a cop.

Fucking journalists.

Its on Fox news, what the hell were you expecting?

[george formby]

Its on Fox news, what the hell were you expecting?

Dang it, beat me to it. Fox News must be an oxymoron, shirley?

[RDJ]

See that's the problem.

Numbers mean jack-shit. Perception is everything.

You retarded fucks just don't get it yet.

Under your sophisticated instruction, couched so winningly, perhaps results may yet improve....

[Scuba_Steve]

Its on Fox news, what the hell were you expecting?

all the "speeders" to be wearing turbans shouting Allah! as they went past shooting off their AK47's

[HenryDorsetCase]

all the "speeders" to be wearing turbans shouting Allah! as they went past shooting off their AK47's

AIYIYIYIYIYIYIYIYI ALLAH AKHBAR!!!!

They are wearing explosvie vests too.

[rossirep]

awesome video, looks just like a Akaroa GP if you ask me..lol,

the only way you will slow sport bike riders down is to fill the road they like to blast around on with cops..
and once ya do that, we will just find the next best road and blast around that knowing that all the cops are busy somewhere else..

[Flip]

A couple of hidden speed cameras will soon sort that lot out and a the Akaroa GP. QED really.

Put them in the right place and turn the squids into slithers.

[cowboyz]

the idea that dont worry about the speeding because car drivers do this or that is just plain stupid. Obviously its a sportsbike favoured road and obivously there are some up there who ride it often as fast as they can. 153 is pretty impresive for that stretch of road. Its illegal. they are showcasing its a problem. Its not surprising its happening. And there is not a defence to it. The guys (or girlls ahem pc world) know they are breaking the law. They know the law cant do anything about it. looks like a fun bit of road!

[Maha]

It's always interesting to see a cagers perspective on sports bike riders. The speeds may seem crazy to them, but cagers just don't realise how fast bikes can accelerate. Even on a decent 600cc bike 200kmh isn't that fast.

In the Video shown, one was clocked at 200MPH ...thats 320KPH...thats fast in anyones language.

[p.dath]

Everyone has different risk profiles. And as a result their are going to be people travelling at all different speeds as they perceive those risks differently. Fortunately thanks to the bell curve there is only a small number that travel drastically over the speed limit on the public road network (or for me, in the really high risk zone). And funnily enough, those risk profiles are often shaped by age and experience, and by the number of times you've badly hurt yourself and/or had someone you know badly hurt (that's the hard way to get experience).

I guess with bikes the difference is you don't need anywhere as much money to be able to get a vehicle that can take you to that point, so you see more extreme examples. If you could buy cars for $5k that could easily and rapidly get to 200km/h you'd see more of them doing it.


For those extreme ends of the scale I agree with the enforcement officers - you wont be able to penalise the behaviour out of existence. If your risk profile is such that travelling drastically over the is acceptable then I doubt any kind of punishment is really going to measure up as "high risk" by comparison.

The trick, IMHO, is to try and educate and install patterns of behaviour through knowledge and leadership in ourselves, and inspire those around us (like mentoring), and to try and get people to understand the consequences of their actions on the people around them (like on their Mums, Dads, partners, etc) and acknowledging that our actions do affect those people. It's not all about "me":

It's one of the reasons I like to help out at NASS (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/wiki/North_Auckland_Street_Skills) - because one day I hope it will keep one more biker around to live one more year of their life. Sure, we all die eventually - but why start early huh?

[SMOKEU]

A couple of hidden speed cameras will soon sort that lot out and a the Akaroa GP. .

Don't give the fun police any ideas.

[rossirep]

A couple of hidden speed cameras will soon sort that lot out and a the Akaroa GP. QED really.

Put them in the right place and turn the squids into slithers.

speed cameras wont fix the problem, il just move my number plate so ya cant see it.. or take it off altogether and if i got stopped by the coppers il just say it must have fallen off.. ;-)

but for anyone who has riden to Akaroa on a bike you must know what the thrill is and why so many bikers do it every weekend during the summer months.

[Old Steve]

in 3 years they've had 13 deaths in 5 Georgia counties & 2 of these came from the cop chase they mentioned, given the amount of traffic I'm seeing, they're making this a bigger problem than it is.

It's a hell of a problem for those 13 people and their families!

[tigertim20]

I've got no problem with comprehension.

.
uh-huh...
p.s. lovely rep comment, I call your mother the same word when im spunking in her ass.
once again - suck my cock!:bleh:

:laugh: you can't be serious?
riding along a road, you see a person blatantly pointing a radar thingymawhoowhatsit at you. makes sense theres another cop up the road waiting to pull you over. Unless you are a complete fucktard who thinks he can guarantee his ability to outrun the cops without killing himself, you'd slow down to be either legal, or minimize the cost of the impending ticket

so if somones speeding and isint caught its safe?
or if theres radars everywhere it safer?
i to would slow down if i saw a radar pointing my way
most people would


Hows did I do? :eek:
you said a lot without telling us anything.

In the Video shown, one was clocked at 200MPH ...thats 320KPH...thats fast in anyones language.

no, in the video, it was alleged that one was clocked at 200mph - they never showed the radar reading of it. they didnt show the radar reading of the guy they said was doing 153mph either, you just chose to take his word for it.

[rastuscat]

People tend to forget that for every crazy sports bike rider there's at least another 50 cagers who txt while driving, don't look properly at intersections, cut corners and do other behaviour that is far more dangerous to innocent members of the public than a nutter on a Japanese crotch rocket.

Yeah, wot 'e said.

See, that's why us bikers should be allowed to go really fast, coz everyone else is such a good driver they won't pull out in front of us, cut across our line, won't use their phone hen cutting us off.

Um, ain't dat wot 'e sed?

[swbarnett]

I don't think it is 'all about the sportsbikers' though, there are several other million road users (sharers) who have a right to be safe in sue them all USA.
Noone has a "right" to be safe. It must be earned.

[St_Gabriel]

In the Video shown, one was clocked at 200MPH ...thats 320KPH...thats fast in anyones language.

No, sorry, In the clip shown they have substituted a clip from another source (the Atlanta State Police) to show a Hyabusas' (I think) speed run on a perfectly straight road, not on the windy curvy roads they are discussing.

[Brett]

Well...that many sportsbikes heading down a straight piece of road between corners and the only wheelie I saw was that well worn 'Busa clip. That video needs more wheelies. Sensationalist reporting at best.

[bikaholic]

Noone has a "right" to be safe. It must be earned.I'm sorry I am at a total loss on that one, why does no one have a right to be safe, and how is it earned?

[Brett]

I'm sorry I am at a total loss on that one, why does no one have a right to be safe, and how is it earned?

I have to agree with you...kind of an odd statement swbarnet....kind of like saying "a person doesn't have the rights to not be assaulted, that right should be earned". A bit of an odd thing to say.

[pc220]

uh-huh...
p.s. lovely rep comment, I call your mother the same word when im spunking in her ass.
once again - suck my cock!:bleh:

riding along a road, you see a person blatantly pointing a radar thingymawhoowhatsit at you. makes sense theres another cop up the road waiting to pull you over. Unless you are a complete fucktard who thinks he can guarantee his ability to outrun the cops without killing himself, you'd slow down to be either legal, or minimize the cost of the impending ticket

most people would

you said a lot without telling us anything.


no, in the video, it was alleged that one was clocked at 200mph - they never showed the radar reading of it. they didnt show the radar reading of the guy they said was doing 153mph either, you just chose to take his word for it.

Hey Katman, it seems tim really is quite fond of you. Twice in one thread he has asked for sexual favours from you. You should be a sport and just do it, im sure he doesnt expect you to swallow. He just needs a bit of man love.:rolleyes:

[tigertim20]

Hey Katman, it seems tim really is quite fond of you. Twice in one thread he has asked for sexual favours from you. You should be a sport and just do it, im sure he doesnt expect you to swallow. He just needs a bit of man love.:rolleyes:

ahh, 'ol katman loves the cock, look through all of his posts, youll see how fond he is of blow jobs!!!:laugh:

[James Deuce]

It's the logic of the title premise that's a bit dodgy.

It should have been "All bikers speed".

[caspernz]

That video may have been made to look worse by editing out all the riders who weren't behaving like squids?

[RDJ]

I have to agree with you...kind of an odd statement swbarnet....kind of like saying "a person doesn't have the rights to not be assaulted, that right should be earned". A bit of an odd thing to say.

The difficulty with defining something as a right is that it often means another person has to give up a right... E.g, one man's 'right' to be safe in a well lit, heavily policed street / neighborhood will necessarily come at the cost of another's 'right' to take home more of the pay she earned to spend on her family...

Take health care for example. Is there a human right to free healthcare? I can summarise the argument (made by some very smart people) as follows: If there is a right to health care, someone has the duty to provide it. This means the Government must take as much money from you and me under threat of coercion as the Govt decides it needs - and even if you are OK with that, the concept also means if the Government decided not to pay health care workers a "fair wage" then if human health care is a right, the Government should be able to make health care workers work for a pittance - otherwise other people may not have "the right to affordable health care".

This does not mean that we should not collect taxes to pay for health care - just as it does not mean we should not collect taxes to pay for police; but it does mean that neither (access to) health care) not (a guarantee of) safety, is a "basic human right".

That IMO is why the Founders of the US were v smart when they said everyone should have the right to pursue happiness - not the right to be happy... We have a right to professional response and good service from doctors, nurses, providers, police, teachers etc paid with tax money; but we don't have a right to be safe, healthy and secure a well paying job.

That's my take on it; of course, YMMV...

[Coldrider]

ahh, 'ol katman loves the cock, look through all of his posts, youll see how fond he is of blow jobs!!!:laugh:yep, he's definately got staying power (or stay hard cream).

[Blackflagged]

Looks like a Nice place for a Ride!

[Edbear]

For a while there I thought p Dath was advocating teaching personal responsibility and consequences to the young ones as they grow up, but surely no one would think that's a hood idea, would they..? :confused:

[JMemonic]

but for anyone who has riden to Akaroa on a bike you must know what the thrill is and why so many bikers do it every weekend during the summer months.

Yeap done it and once was enough, all those weekend warriors who stick their bikes on rego hold for 9 months of the year and thus have suspect skills at best is a dam good reason to stay off that stretch of road in the weekends.

[JMemonic]

No, sorry, In the clip shown they have substituted a clip from another source (the Atlanta State Police) to show a Hyabusas' (I think) speed run on a perfectly straight road, not on the windy curvy roads they are discussing.

Um yes but did you notice which side of the road the Hayabusa was on? And did that look like an American road?

[rossirep]

Yeap done it and once was enough, all those weekend warriors who stick their bikes on rego hold for 9 months of the year and thus have suspect skills at best is a dam good reason to stay off that stretch of road in the weekends.

what you on about, i put my rego on hold over winter an only use my bike as a summer toy. they cost to much to rego all year round if ya dont plan on using them in winter, funny thou that you have only been over there once and you seem to know it all..

[Kickaha]

Hey Katman, it seems tim really is quite fond of you. Twice in one thread he has asked for sexual favours from you. You should be a sport and just do it, im sure he doesnt expect you to swallow. He just needs a bit of man love.:rolleyes:
He's in Dunedin, man love is probably the only kind he can get down there (and maybe some small animals)


what you on about, i put my rego on hold over winter an only use my bike as a summer toy. they cost to much to rego all year round if ya dont plan on using them in winter, funny thou that you have only been over there once and you seem to know it all..
I've ridden it plenty though and I dont bother any more because of the increased weekend traffic and wannabee motorcycle riding wankers pretending they're racers carving people up

[JMemonic]

what you on about, i put my rego on hold over winter an only use my bike as a summer toy. they cost to much to rego all year round if ya dont plan on using them in winter, funny thou that you have only been over there once and you seem to know it all..

Actually I am fortunate bastard in that I don't have to limit my riding to just the weekends so if I want to head to Akaroa in the middle of the week, when all the weekend warriors aren't around pretending to be Rossi I can :bleh:, oddly I don't want to often as there is little there to excite me.

If you want to have a decent day out why the hell don't you go around the block, oh I know you don't get to sit and have a latte with all the other weekend warriors and brag about how you took that last corner just coming into Barrys Bay cranked right over, plus 600 odd Kms in a day is far to far to ride.

Also there are plenty of nice days to ride in the winter.

[SMOKEU]

plus 600 odd Kms in a day is far to far to ride.



It is if you're tall and on a gixxer, unless you want to feel like you just got out of an African jail.

[James Deuce]

Simple. Don't buy a Gixxer.

[pritch]

oh I know you don't get to sit and have a latte with all the other weekend warriors and brag about how you took that last corner just coming into Barrys Bay cranked right over

I originally posted this a longish time ago but it seems to fit...
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59914&d=1177903107

Considering that the FOX mantra "fair and balanced" has joke status, I thought the clip was not too bad at all. A lot of the riders were behaving themselves, but as always, the focus was on the minority.

There has been a claim (presumably by a competing channel) that research shows that people who watch FOX News are less well informed than people who don't watch the news at all. So perhaps we shouldn't expect too much?

[JMemonic]

It is if you're tall and on a gixxer, unless you want to feel like you just got out of an African jail.


Simple. Don't buy a Gixxer.

Not quite how I would put it James, more buy a bike that fits. A gixxer is a great machine, as is an R1 or any of that variant for the purpose it was designed for, so long as you are certain height, body length etc and want to get and off the shelf bike you can take to the track, which is where some of the riders of the Akaroa gp should be taking the bike.

Nice to see you are think smokeu, growing up a little and using the brain.

[Kickaha]

which is where some of the riders of the Akaroa gp should be taking the bike.

They don't like to do that because they find out they're a lot slower than they thought

[JMemonic]

I originally posted this a longish time ago but it seems to fit...
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=59914&d=1177903107

Considering that the FOX mantra "fair and balanced" has joke status, I thought the clip was not too bad at all. A lot of the riders were behaving themselves, but as always, the focus was on the minority.

There has been a claim (presumably by a competing channel) that research shows that people who watch FOX News are less well informed than people who don't watch the news at all. So perhaps we shouldn't expect too much?

I had heard that about FOX as well, nice link thanks for that.

[avgas]

It's always interesting to see a cagers perspective on sports bike riders. The speeds may seem crazy to them, but cagers just don't realise how fast bikes can accelerate. Even on a decent 600cc bike 200kmh isn't that fast.
nor is it in any modern sportscar. doesn't make it right.

the best thing i like about it is people who make mistakes at 200+ never do it again.

[SMOKEU]

nor is it in any modern sportscar. doesn't make it right.

the best thing i like about it is people who make mistakes at 200+ never do it again.

Not many modern cars are capable of reaching that same speed as quickly though. A 6 cylinder Falcodore will do at least 230kmh but it will take a lot longer to get there than a fast-ish bike.

Those who live to tell the tale will probably end up doing it again.

[tigertim20]

It is if you're tall and on a gixxer, unless you want to feel like you just got out of an African jail.

bullshit. Im 6'1" without shoes on, I'll do 1000km + in a day on an R1 with aftermarket rearsets that lift me feet higher than stock - and I actually find that my body feels better afterwards than it did doing the same ride on a 91 cbr 600 with a fairly upright riding position.

Do you find you get sore in the wrists and arms smoke?

[Ender EnZed]

It is if you're tall and on a gixxer, unless you want to feel like you just got out of an African jail.

HTFU.

10char

[Bassmatt]

Do you find you get sore in the wrists and arms smoke?

probably.... I hear that there is a lot of heavy lifting in African jails? :rolleyes:

[rossirep]

Actually I am fortunate bastard in that I don't have to limit my riding to just the weekends so if I want to head to Akaroa in the middle of the week, when all the weekend warriors aren't around pretending to be Rossi I can :bleh:, oddly I don't want to often as there is little there to excite me.

If you want to have a decent day out why the hell don't you go around the block, oh I know you don't get to sit and have a latte with all the other weekend warriors and brag about how you took that last corner just coming into Barrys Bay cranked right over, plus 600 odd Kms in a day is far to far to ride.

Also there are plenty of nice days to ride in the winter.

i to have plenty of time to ride during the week or also on the weekends, but i dont have time to ride 600ks round "the block" just for the hell of it, a blast to akaroa and back and over the hills thru lyttleton is enough for me to get my fix.. and i drink a flat white not a latte,

and if a ride to akaroa doesnt excite you then you got problems buddy or maybe you should try riding a new bike.. ;-) but hey each to their own. ;-)

[Kickaha]

and if a ride to akaroa doesnt excite you then you got problems buddy or maybe you should try riding a new bike.. ;-) but hey each to their own. ;-)

Compared to a ride to Kaikoura and the Hundalees or inland road :yawn:

[rossirep]

They don't like to do that because they find out they're a lot slower than they thought

why would they be slower than they thought.? iv been out the track a few times over the years and yes it is fun, but i wouldnt wanna ride my "road" bike out there anymore, cause chances are thats where id drop it cause you end up pushing it harder and harder than you normally do cause of the no cop, no car, thing that ya have out there.
if i had plenty of money a race bike would be the go, but sadly no everyone can afford that, but thinking just cause someone doesnt ride out the track makes thenm slow is stupid.. and just cause someone rides out the track doesnt make them fast..

[rossirep]

bullshit. Im 6'1" without shoes on, I'll do 1000km + in a day on an R1 with aftermarket rearsets that lift me feet higher than stock - and I actually find that my body feels better afterwards than it did doing the same ride on a 91 cbr 600 with a fairly upright riding position.

Do you find you get sore in the wrists and arms smoke?


1000ks in a day..???? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha on a R1....... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahaha hah.........................

[DrunkenMistake]

1000ks in a day..???? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha on a R1....... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahaha hah.........................

Did I miss the joke?
I think I done 700 in a day on a cbr250 haha

[tigertim20]

Compared to a ride to Kaikoura and the Hundalees or inland road :yawn:
amen to that! My favourite piece of road is the cheviot to Kaikoura section!

why would they be slower than they thought.? iv been out the track a few times over the years and yes it is fun, but i wouldnt wanna ride my "road" bike out there anymore, cause chances are thats where id drop it cause you end up pushing it harder and harder than you normally do cause of the no cop, no car, thing that ya have out there.
if i had plenty of money a race bike would be the go, but sadly no everyone can afford that, but thinking just cause someone doesnt ride out the track makes thenm slow is stupid.. and just cause someone rides out the track doesnt make them fast..
heroes of the road usually do find they arent the riding gods they thought they were when they hit the track.
you dont need plenty of money to go to the track, and frankly, its safer than being on the road, you are on the same short circuit over and over again, you know what the condition of the surface will be on the next corner because you went around it less than 2 minutes ago, you have poeple who run around with flags if there is an obstruction, you can use the entire width of the track instead on one lane providing you with wider margins of error, the surfaces tend to be far superior to the road, should I go on?

1000ks in a day..???? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha on a R1....... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahaha hah.........................
No problem, done several times. Not all of us are limp wristed coffee drinkers who barely make it through the door of the cafe because our heads have swelled with so much self pride at how awesomely we think we took that last corner on the ONLY road we ever ride because we dont have the skills, or the openness of mind to go and try out new, further afield roads.
But you enjoy your boring, repetitive rides on your boring, normal scheduled life, - why not buy a minivan and have 5 kids while you're at it? - In the meantime, I will continue destroying tyres from sheer volume of kilometers travelled until I have done every road in NZ. Then I will repeat it!

[James Deuce]

Compared to a ride to Kaikoura and the Hundalees or inland road :yawn:

What he said.

[tigertim20]

Did I miss the joke?
I think I done 700 in a day on a cbr250 haha

that was a smidge over 700 km, with the few detours you took by the time you got home to where you used to live in the middle of bumblefuck!

[ducatilover]

Flat whites and lattes? Bundle of faggots!

[bikaholic]

1000ks in a day..???? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha on a R1....... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahaha hah.........................yep 1,000ks a day no problemo, i go to the brass and burt from picton to destination, and sometimes the return as well, don't take mates that have to stop at every gas station or who have to stop and have a ciggi, there is no time. I used to do the brass on a cbr600 years ago 1,000ks easy, i'm 6 2 and 98kg, get sore behind my knees though.

[DrunkenMistake]

Flat whites and lattes? Bundle of Sticks

Fixed that for you, wouldnt make sense otherwise.

[ducatilover]

Fixed that for you, wouldnt make sense otherwise.
Come here big boy, I'll show you how to bundle your faggots. Then we can go for a short ride on my flashed up R1.

[Ender EnZed]

1000ks in a day..???? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha on a R1....... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahaha hah.........................

You like riding to Akaroa and back for a flat white and you are incredulous of the idea of doing 1000km in a day.

:rofl:

[rossirep]

No problem, done several times. Not all of us are limp wristed coffee drinkers who barely make it through the door of the cafe because our heads have swelled with so much self pride at how awesomely we think we took that last corner on the ONLY road we ever ride because we dont have the skills, or the openness of mind to go and try out new, further afield roads.
But you enjoy your boring, repetitive rides on your boring, normal scheduled life, - why not buy a minivan and have 5 kids while you're at it? - In the meantime, I will continue destroying tyres from sheer volume of kilometers travelled until I have done every road in NZ. Then I will repeat it!

hahahaha, i do already have a mini van, and "repetitive" riding would be going out the track wouldnt it.??
but hey there is a bike rally coming up next month tigertim "the march hare" il be there with some of my limp wristed friends, maybe you could turn up on your mighty R1 and we could go for a ride and you can show us how awesome you are and how shit we are ;-). and il make sure noone stops for coffee

[rossirep]

You like riding to Akaroa and back for a flat white and you are incredulous of the idea of doing 1000km in a day.

:rofl:

sometimes we get fish and chip and a coke and dont even have a coffee.. and im not saying i couldnt do 1000ks in a day, im saying i wouldnt want to, ;-)

[DrunkenMistake]

hahahaha, i do already have a mini van, and "repetitive" riding would be going out the track wouldnt it.??
but hey there is a bike rally coming up next month tigertim "the march hare" il be there with some of my limp wristed friends, maybe you could turn up on your mighty R1 and we could go for a ride and you can show us how awesome you are and how shit we are ;-). and il make sure noone stops for coffee

God anything you say sounds like gargling Chance Bmx Sounds,
Didnt you go on a limp dick rampage about how awesome your 250 was?.. I cant tell if your some kind of Hybrid Troll,
Or a muppet..

[ducatilover]

Fuck yes, let's race across some road, because we're great, fast and competent riders.
He's cooler than Chance, he has Rossi in his title on KB :niceone:

[tigertim20]

hahahaha, i do already have a mini van, and "repetitive" riding would be going out the track wouldnt it.??
but hey there is a bike rally coming up next month tigertim "the march hare" il be there with some of my limp wristed friends, maybe you could turn up on your mighty R1 and we could go for a ride and you can show us how awesome you are and how shit we are ;-). and il make sure noone stops for coffee
theres only one route on a trackday - different story in the real world.
heh, Id be happy to show you how limp wristed you are, but youd pull off at the first coffee shop for a daisy chain in the back room, so not much point really

p.s. - fuck off, you dont have any friends!!:laugh:

God anything you say sounds like gargling Chance Bmx Sounds,
Didnt you go on a limp dick rampage about how awesome your 250 was?.. I cant tell if your some kind of Hybrid Troll,
Or a muppet..

He's a Trompet?:confused:

[rossirep]

God anything you say sounds like gargling Chance Bmx Sounds,
Didnt you go on a limp dick rampage about how awesome your 250 was?.. I cant tell if your some kind of Hybrid Troll,
Or a muppet..

i sold my 250 a few months back after i got my full licence, so now i ride a slightly bigger bike and im even faster on that than what i was on my VT250. but at the end of the day this site is always good for a laugh and i love the way how you guys all stick together.. its sooo cute.. xxxx

[DrunkenMistake]

He's a Trompet?:confused:

I dont know, but if he keeps blowing his Trumpet he is just going to make himself look less credible haha

[ducatilover]

i sold my 250 a few months back after i got my full licence, so now i ride a slightly bigger bike and im even faster on that than what i was on my VT250. but at the end of the day this site is always good for a laugh and i love the way how you guys all stick together.. its sooo cute.. xxxx

Woah, I thought you had an R1...:facepalm:

[rossirep]

Woah, I thought you had an R1...:facepalm:

nah man, i had a vt250 and got a slightly bigger bike.. one of these days id love to have a r1, like one of those motogp bikes the big bang 1000cc racers. then id be fully unstoppable on the road cause that bike would make anyone super fast

[DrunkenMistake]

nah man, i had a vt250 and got a slightly bigger bike.. one of these days id love to have a r1


OH NO! YOU PUT YOUR FOOT IN IT!!!!!


AHHH JESUS!!!!

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/139214-Yamaha-R1-(Fiat-Yamaha)

Youuuu Rooookkkkiiieeeeeee!

[bikaholic]

nah man, i had a vt250 and got a slightly bigger bike.. one of these days id love to have a r1, like one of those motogp bikes the big bang 1000cc racers. then id be fully unstoppable on the road cause that bike would make anyone super fastdam that's you off the list, i need someone to retreive my blade from dalefield and bring it up to the sounds, a mere pootle of 900ks, i guess I'll have to cage down myself.:bleh:

[ducatilover]

nah man, i had a vt250 and got a slightly bigger bike.. one of these days id love to have a r1, like one of those motogp bikes the big bang 1000cc racers. then id be fully unstoppable on the road cause that bike would make anyone super fast Yeah, hard Gee.


OH NO! YOU PUT YOUR FOOT IN IT!!!!!


AHHH JESUS!!!!

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/139214-Yamaha-R1-(Fiat-Yamaha)

Youuuu Rooookkkkiiieeeeeee!


Ah, I see. Traded the wrecked R1 for a VT250?

[rossirep]

OH NO! YOU PUT YOUR FOOT IN IT!!!!!


AHHH JESUS!!!!

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/139214-Yamaha-R1-(Fiat-Yamaha)

Youuuu Rooookkkkiiieeeeeee!

oh you mean that old r1.. yeah its been so long i almost forgot about that one, lucky your such a kiwibiker slut that you remembered.. lol, goes to show how much time you spend on here.. ;-( poor you.

[Ender EnZed]

oh you mean that old r1.. yeah its been so long i almost forgot about that one, lucky your such a kiwibiker slut that you remembered.. lol, goes to show how much time you spend on here.. ;-( poor you.

You (apparently) crashed it end of 2010. You're suggesting that it's been less than 18 months since you crashed a flash looking R1, then went to a VT250 and you "almost forgot" that this happened.

You're either making shit up or you seriously need to lay off the crack.

[rossirep]

You (apparently) crashed it end of 2010. You're suggesting that it's been less than 18 months since you crashed a flash looking R1, then went to a VT250 and you "almost forgot" that this happened.

You're either making shit up or you seriously need to lay off the crack.

or... i think this site has 95% dick heads on it and 5%of good cunts and i get my kicks by taking the piss out of the fucktards on here who think just cause they post 9000 times on here it makes them experts at all things bikes..
its the internet mother fuckers... its what i do on sundays cause my harley is in the shop and goldwing is out of gas, gotta get my laughs somehow.

[SMOKEU]

Do you find you get sore in the wrists and arms smoke?

I sure do.

[tigertim20]

dam that's you off the list, i need someone to retreive my blade from dalefield and bring it up to the sounds, a mere pootle of 900ks, i guess I'll have to cage down myself.:bleh:
marlborough sounds eh? I happen to be travelling from Dunedin to Blenheim on Thursday and will be in the cage unless . . . . . . . . .

I sure do.

then you might be riding it a tad wrong.
you wanna grip the tank with your thighs (firmly, like your missus does when you're balls deep in her missionary style and she's about to explode) and use your core (tummy) to support your upper body. This takes a lot of weight off your wrists, and makes your grip on the bars a bit looser and will help with the steering a tad.

[SMOKEU]

then you might be riding it a tad wrong.
you wanna grip the tank with your thighs (firmly, like your missus does when you're balls deep in her missionary style and she's about to explode) and use your core (tummy) to support your upper body. This takes a lot of weight off your wrists, and makes your grip on the bars a bit looser and will help with the steering a tad.

Cheers, I'll give that a go.

[Kickaha]

don't take mates that have to stop at every gas station or who have to stop and have a ciggi,

Hate riding with cunts like that, I can do over 300km to a tank so I dont want to stop until it's just about empty


or... i think this site has 95% dick heads on it and 5%of good cunts
You sound like part of the 95%

[tigertim20]

Cheers, I'll give that a go.

youll know its working when your wrists dont really hurt but your tummy is a tad sore after a longer ride

[pc220]

oh you mean that old r1.. yeah its been so long i almost forgot about that one, lucky your such a kiwibiker slut that you remembered.. lol, goes to show how much time you spend on here.. ;-( poor you.

Mate you need to change you login to 'numbertwos'. Cause you are fucken full of it.

[onearmedbandit]

<img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-2As9bUvaWos/TpJtcImBBCI/AAAAAAAACWs/7qxaSYlhOgg/s1600/babe+ruth+drinking.jpg"/>

Honestly. :facepalm:

[ducatilover]

or... i think this site has 95% dick heads on it and 5%of good cunts and i get my kicks by taking the piss out of the fucktards on here who think just cause they post 9000 times on here it makes them experts at all things bikes..
its the internet mother fuckers... its what i do on sundays cause my harley is in the shop and goldwing is out of gas, gotta get my laughs somehow.

You talk more shit than I do.

[Kickaha]

You talk more shit than I do.

Are you sure? because that would take some doing :whistle:

[DrunkenMistake]

Are you sure? because that would take some doing :whistle:

Ahaha, DL is milder than I am.. :laugh:

[tigertim20]

Mate you need to change you login to 'numbertwos'. Cause you are fucken full of it.
bwa hahahahahahahahaha

You talk more shit than I do.

heh, true, and you're more full of shit than a dunny at a curry-house!

[ducatilover]

Are you sure? because that would take some doing :whistle:
Hmm, fair point :laugh:




heh, true, and you're more full of shit than a dunny at a curry-house!
Why thank you!

[JMemonic]

i to have plenty of time to ride during the week or also on the weekends, but i dont have time to ride 600ks round "the block" just for the hell of it, a blast to akaroa and back and over the hills thru lyttleton is enough for me to get my fix.. and i drink a flat white not a latte,

and if a ride to akaroa doesnt excite you then you got problems buddy or maybe you should try riding a new bike.. ;-) but hey each to their own. ;-)

Akaroa and back sitting around bragging about how much lean angle you had while sipping you flat white does not impress or rock my world, and if you have time to spend a day doing that you can spend a day going around the block.


1000ks in a day..???? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha on a R1....... hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahaha hah.........................

Could be, has been and will be done again I am sure.


hahahaha, i do already have a mini van, and "repetitive" riding would be going out the track wouldnt it.??
but hey there is a bike rally coming up next month tigertim "the march hare" il be there with some of my limp wristed friends, maybe you could turn up on your mighty R1 and we could go for a ride and you can show us how awesome you are and how shit we are ;-). and il make sure noone stops for coffee


sometimes we get fish and chip and a coke and dont even have a coffee.. and im not saying i couldnt do 1000ks in a day, im saying i wouldnt want to, ;-)

Cool you blast down highway one and keep the police busy, some of use will take the longer way have a nice cruise and a pleasant day trip.

[Conquiztador]

I clicked on this thread again thinking we were talking about the speeding bikers. And I had a read of the posts still discussing that.

Then it all changed to SI riding of one type or another. And I got scared! To think that I rode Picton - Dunedin - Greymouth - Picton (and all the places inbetween) in November in rain, sun, wind and the dark. And I did not get passed, did not get hurt and drank no flat whites! One thing is for sure, I will now stay away from that island! There is no way I would measure up!! :no: I soo look forward to the day when I will grow up and be like you guys, my heroes! :not:

[JMemonic]

I clicked on this thread again thinking we were talking about the speeding bikers. And I had a read of the posts still discussing that.

Then it all changed to SI riding of one type or another. And I got scared! To think that I rode Picton - Dunedin - Greymouth - Picton (and all the places inbetween) in November in rain, sun, wind and the dark. And I did not get passed, did not get hurt and drank no flat whites! One thing is for sure, I will now stay away from that island! There is no way I would measure up!! :no: I soo look forward to the day when I will grow up and be like you guys, my heroes! :not:

Nah your welcome back, at least you rode more than one road repetitively, and in weather conditions where there may or may not have been a cloud visible.

[onearmedbandit]

I clicked on this thread again thinking we were talking about the speeding bikers. And I had a read of the posts still discussing that.

Then it all changed to SI riding of one type or another. And I got scared! To think that I rode Picton - Dunedin - Greymouth - Picton (and all the places inbetween) in November in rain, sun, wind and the dark. And I did not get passed, did not get hurt and drank no flat whites! One thing is for sure, I will now stay away from that island! There is no way I would measure up!! :no: I soo look forward to the day when I will grow up and be like you guys, my heroes! :not:

You've got a long way to go my son.

[Conquiztador]

You've got a long way to go my son.

Daddiiii!!!!!:eek:

[tigertim20]

I clicked on this thread again thinking we were talking about the speeding bikers. And I had a read of the posts still discussing that.

Then it all changed to SI riding of one type or another. And I got scared! To think that I rode Picton - Dunedin - Greymouth - Picton (and all the places inbetween) in November in rain, sun, wind and the dark. And I did not get passed, did not get hurt and drank no flat whites! One thing is for sure, I will now stay away from that island! There is no way I would measure up!! :no: I soo look forward to the day when I will grow up and be like you guys, my heroes! :not:

If youve been for a ride down here once, You'll be back for another go no doubt, now you know what youve been missing out on!!!!

[pritch]

If youve been for a ride down here once, You'll be back for another go no doubt, now you know what youve been missing out on!!!!

Don't get too carried away, not all the good roads are in the South Island you know. Check out that list on Stuff:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/motoring/great-nz-roads/6392236/Top-10-NZ-roads-Number-1

[tigertim20]

Don't get too carried away, not all the good roads are in the South Island you know. Check out that list on Stuff:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/motoring/great-nz-roads/6392236/Top-10-NZ-roads-Number-1

It dont matter whats in your kitchen mate, the slut across the road always look a little tastier . . .:bleh: