Nissan gonna be a V8 Supercar in 2013

[ckai]

Nissan is gonna play with the boffheads in 2013. Apparently they're gonna announce it today but they don't know what model they're gonna use. I reckon it's gonna be the Navara.

The Kelly racing are the team that's gonna be the Guinea Pigs.

So there ya go. It's finally happened. Didn't think it would be Nissan though. I supposed they played before buy then the v8's cried.

[Gremlin]

I reckon it's gonna be the Navara.
Probably all that will be allowed, if anyone remembers what happened the last time the Japs got to play :laugh:

[Scuba_Steve]

Yea Toyota were supposed to be in a few years back with their Aurion, but for some reason only ever went V6 with their car, probably found it too much hassle to conform to Holdens (Holden advantage) rules. If Nissan do enter & win, expect more rule changes <_<

[yachtie10]

Dont they run restriction rules now to keep the brands even?

[nudemetalz]

Probably all that will be allowed, if anyone remembers what happened the last time the Japs got to play :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBusULuWCoY

Yup,..the Ozzies booing ....:rolleyes:

[Edbear]

Dont they run restriction rules now to keep the brands even?

Maybe they could use the old Nissan President then..?

[Edbear]

Dont they run restriction rules now to keep the brands even?

Maybe they could use the old Nissan President then..?

[scott411]

with teh car of the future coming and the comman platform it will be an interesting series, following nascar very much, be interesting to see what motor the NIssan uses, I doubt they will be able to use one of their alloy V8's,

[cs363]

with teh car of the future coming and the comman platform it will be an interesting series, following nascar very much, be interesting to see what motor the NIssan uses, I doubt they will be able to use one of their alloy V8's,

They should be able to use their own V8 alloy or not under the rules as I understand them, they have a parity system to allow for just such an instance.

Edit: I heard a rumour that Nissan were going to introduce their Infinity brand to Australia so this may well be part of the marketing for that,

[ckai]

Edit: I heard a rumour that Nissan were going to introduce their Infinity brand to Australia so this may well be part of the marketing for that,

This would make sense. I know Chrysler is looking at joining the Super Tourers in 2013. I believe the "car of the future" for the supercars is a similar concept to the super tourers here although probably not as hard core (body is the only thing different between cars). There's been a bit of worldwide interest in the super tourers since you can have a car on the track for $200k that can go as fast as the Super V8's. Make's for better value when you compare the $1mill +.

It will make an interesting series in 2013. As long as they don't make it a procession with the car changes adding another manufacturer can only increase interest.

[scott411]

This would make sense. I know Chrysler is looking at joining the Super Tourers in 2013. I believe the "car of the future" for the supercars is a similar concept to the super tourers here although probably not as hard core (body is the only thing different between cars). There's been a bit of worldwide interest in the super tourers since you can have a car on the track for $200k that can go as fast as the Super V8's. Make's for better value when you compare the $1mill +.

It will make an interesting series in 2013. As long as they don't make it a procession with the car changes adding another manufacturer can only increase interest.

with the current split amoung hte super tourers and the NZv8's not doing any good for NZ motorsport, we are barely big enough for one series, and def not 2, having chev motors in ford bodied cars is still not that great imo

[ckai]

with the current split amoung hte super tourers and the NZv8's not doing any good for NZ motorsport, we are barely big enough for one series, and def not 2, having chev motors in ford bodied cars is still not that great imo

Yeah the engines is something I'm in two minds about. The big thing is they shouldn't sound the same even if they are the same engine.

Something needed to be done with the current series. The NZv8's are fossils. They didn't get off their asses to do something about them until the Tourers did something. I'm not a fan of reactive action. Even with the NZV8's sorting their shit out now, I think the series will die and they'll have to suck it up and join the Tourers. The tourers have some good plans and looks like they'll run a professional series. I guess we'll see after 2 years.

I think whatever series has the best commentators and TV coverage will get the sponsor $$ which is the main thing.

[cs363]

with the current split amoung hte super tourers and the NZv8's not doing any good for NZ motorsport, we are barely big enough for one series, and def not 2, having chev motors in ford bodied cars is still not that great imo

The only thing not doing any good for NZ motorsport is the dickheads at Motorsport NZ!
The Supertourers are a bloody trick piece of kit compared to the old taxis that are NZV8's; those pieces of shit have done their dash as have the self serving wankers that are the Motorsport Company.
It's no wonder that all the decent drivers and teams have left NZV8's in droves for the Supertourers and the class is getting huge interest from overseas as these are proper race cars.

I know the engine thing will grate with some of the die-hards, but the reality is that the Chev engine is a bloody reliable motor that will quite likely do a whole season compared to the expensive boat anchors that NZV8's are forced to use.

It's looking like even Angus Fogg is going to swap camps (both to Holden and Supertourers) though from what I heard through the grapevine the only reason he didn't change sooner was money related (lack of it). I can't see the NZV8's continuing for much longer particularly in light of the popularity of the V8 Challenge Cup which uses the old NZV8 style cars as a feeder class for the Supertourers.

There is also by and large a great team of people behind the Supertourers who are actually interested in racing and making the series successful rather than lining their and their mates pockets...

Personally I can't wait to see them race and I think it will be a bloody awesome series, something that top level motorsport in this country has been crying out for for years.

Right, my rant over...as you were...

[Brett]

Holden and Ford should be frightened about opening the door to the Jappa's again, or the Euro's for that matter. Audi would build a fucking diesel family saloon that will out perform their tanks. If Nissan were to be able to run the R35 GTR I think it would be an absolute SLAUGHTER.
If Audi and BMW were able to run V8's they could put BMW m3 and Audi RS5 derived race cars into the mix. I would put $100 on them for the win every year.

[98tls]

Holden and Ford should be frightened about opening the door to the Jappa's again, or the Euro's for that matter. Audi would build a fucking diesel family saloon that will out perform their tanks. If Nissan were to be able to run the R35 GTR I think it would be an absolute SLAUGHTER.
If Audi and BMW were able to run V8's they could put BMW m3 and Audi RS5 derived race cars into the mix. I would put $100 on them for the win every year.

Of course they would but so what,Its not about Ford or Holden its about money.Personally i would love it to stay the way it is but theres no way thats happening,bigger audience means bigger $ its that simple.

[schrodingers cat]

As a responsible adult who can cope with the idea of more than 2 options, I like the idea of having more brands involved.
THe Ford/Holden binary is lowest common denominator IMHO

The New Zealand NZST concept is fasinating. A lot of performance for a very reasonable cost. http://www.v8st.co.nz/
And it gives control back to the stakeholders (competitors) who invest and turn up year after year.

[Brett]

Of course they would but so what,Its not about Ford or Holden its about money.Personally i would love it to stay the way it is but theres no way thats happening,bigger audience means bigger $ its that simple.

Fair enough. Me personally, i have gotten a little tired of the same old holden vs ford routine, when in fact they are not really holdens or fords underneath. Still enjoy Bathurst though.

[Brett]

What would be cool would be an 'open' series with a lot of different tracks around the world, some fast and sweeping for the big power cars and some tight and winding for the pocket rockets (dreaming here...I know the logistical issues). Limited regulation in terms of how the cars can be modded or set up. Would make for some great racing IMO.

[Timber020]

Wahoo, nissan is throwing its hand in the great taxi race.

[ckai]

Holden and Ford should be frightened about opening the door to the Jappa's again, or the Euro's for that matter. Audi would build a fucking diesel family saloon that will out perform their tanks. If Nissan were to be able to run the R35 GTR I think it would be an absolute SLAUGHTER.
If Audi and BMW were able to run V8's they could put BMW m3 and Audi RS5 derived race cars into the mix. I would put $100 on them for the win every year.

The amount of money and engineering power behind german manufacturers is staggering compared to what Holden Oz and Ford Oz have access too. They are big tubs of lard compared to the germans but they're bloody entertaining and it's actually quite amazing what the Ozzies can do for a mere pittance of the budget the other car companies have.

Pretty much, the conditions for joining the SuperV8's is rear drive v8 non-turboed and a certain size. Obviously 4wd ain't gonna fly as that's just ridiculous when racing RWD.


What would be cool would be an 'open' series with a lot of different tracks around the world, some fast and sweeping for the big power cars and some tight and winding for the pocket rockets (dreaming here...I know the logistical issues). Limited regulation in terms of how the cars can be modded or set up. Would make for some great racing IMO.

It's actually looking like the SuperV8's are trying to become a world series. In 2013 they have a race in the states which should be interesting.

Open series racing never actually works. The GT series in NZ is pretty much completely open with the GT1's being anything goes. There are several $1mill cars sitting on the grid. These cars race with unlimited 4wd pocket rockets and get smashed in anything apart from wet tracks. The variation in speed is huge and it starts coming down to money which, in my mind, racing should be about racing. Other series around the world (World Touring Cars tried it) introduced 4wd cars with FWD & RWD but they had a weight penalty. It still didn't work.

My dream would be an world series with RWD with limited output engines. Personally they'd have to be v8's being I like the sound of a racing v8. All going well the superV8's can pull it off.

[ducatilover]

Bring back production class racing. :niceone:
Regulated cars that are all the same are bloody beige.

[onearmedbandit]

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Will never be the same.

[ckai]

hahaha I didn't know that had to go through a 'gate' to get onto the wharf! Brilliant. It's like rallying for the road.

[pete376403]

hahaha I didn't know that had to go through a 'gate' to get onto the wharf! Brilliant. It's like rallying for the road.

And divers standing by in case they missed the bridge and fell into the harbour. It was great, very unpredicable racing.

[ckai]

And divers standing by in case they missed the bridge and fell into the harbour. It was great, very unpredicable racing.

haha that's right, I remember being told about the divers.

[avgas]

What would be cool would be an 'open' series with a lot of different tracks around the world, some fast and sweeping for the big power cars and some tight and winding for the pocket rockets (dreaming here...I know the logistical issues). Limited regulation in terms of how the cars can be modded or set up. Would make for some great racing IMO.

Open GT class. (Europe)
GT350 class. (Japan)
GT500 class. (Japan)
Lemons Racing. (USA)
Le Mans Racing.
International D1 (Japan/USA)

None of which hit NZ TV's because we love out precious Ford and Holden V8 Racing. Hell we are lucky if we get speedway on the TV, and we are world champs at the stuff.

[cs363]

The New Zealand NZST concept is fasinating. A lot of performance for a very reasonable cost. http://www.v8st.co.nz/
And it gives control back to the stakeholders (competitors) who invest and turn up year after year.

Not only fascinating, but now a reality and a resounding success.
That would have to be one of the best motorsports events in NZ that I've attended for a long time (well worth foregoing the Paeroa Street Race for). Besides the great racing and almost continuous entertainment on the day, by far the biggest thing for me was the overwhelming positivity from motorsports people and the public alike - a far cry from the constant niggling that goes on behind the scenes at the NZV8's/Summer Series, from both competitors and officials at each other all the time and the public's often negative reaction to shortened races, delays and bad calls from the officials.

I think this series will only get better, with 4 more cars currently being built for the endurance series and more rumoured plus the promise of a bigger field for the V8 Challenge (old NZV8 cars). Apparently other classes involved with the Motorsport Company's Summer Series are also keen to be involved, not to mention the current Championship leader in NZV8 trying to put a deal together to race V8ST....this is going to get interesting.
It'll also be interesting to see how the legal action brought by the current NZV8 directors against the former NZV8 directors (such as mark Petch etc) now involved with NZST goes.... Exciting times indeed.