Bike V Cage Part.........................?

[Lou Girardin]

AMCN has just done a comparison at Wakelield park track in Goulburn NSW.
It was between a K5 Gixxer and a Porsche Turbo S.
The cage was driven by Warren Luff - V8 supercar driver, and AMCN editor Sam McLachlan rode the bike. Seems that he's a bit handy as a rider, but not up to Luffs level.
Track conditions were cold, which gave the cage an extra advantage in grip, but the bike still beat the car by a second. Luff said there was no more to be had from the car without suspension mods. The Porsche was faster through 6 of the ten corners and could brake way later thanks to the ceramic brake option that alone costs more than the Gixxer.
But there was no way the Porsche could live with the bike out of corners, even some 600's on the track were leaving it behind.
Acceleration figures were:
400 metres
Porsche 12.47 @ 186 km/h
Gixxer 10.48 @ 228 km/h

0 - 100 Km/h
Porsche 4.26 secs
Gixxer 3.26 secs.

[Sutage]

yeh fuck cars
i was in titirangi today and i saw a porsche go under this underground thing as i went in so i reved my SR shitless, made him smile
made me piss myself
but my SR is leaking oil:(

[Ixion]

yeh fuck cars
i was in titirangi today and i saw a porsche go under this underground thing as i went in so i reved my SR shitless, made him smile
made me piss myself
but my SR is leaking oil:(

Oh, that's not good, Where is it leaking from, can you tell ?

[justsomeguy]

Me and a couple of mates went down scenic drive yesterday in cages.... One of which was a 650Hp $100,000+ mad crazy Toyota MR2 - wonder how many bikes could waste that on "The Drive".....


WT?? Anyone??

[unhingedlizard]

they did a test in one of the british bike mags. car were:
BMW M3 CSL,
Lambo Merculiahhhhhhhgo thing,
and a Radical SR3(5?) busa powered thing.

Bike were a Stock-as-a-rock GSXR1000 and a rizla BSB GSXR1000

all on track, drivers were Colin Macrash, one of the bike mags journos and Niel Mackenzie.

Results were,

GSXR1000 Race
Radical,
GSXR1000 Road
Lambo
BMW.

So essientaily what they say is to bet a Italian supercar you need a $20k bike and an average joe blog owner.

[Sutage]

Oh, that's not good, Where is it leaking from, can you tell ?

Not sure its been doing it a lot lately:P Guess i bettr get my ass to the bike maitenance thing learn how to fix it
been riding it pretty hard last 2 weeks, and did a ride yesterday so she isnt happy obviously

[myvice]

Be a slight price difference between the pusher and the bike?
Not much, bike + gear about $25k. High end VW, $250k.
So the car is one 0 more...
Must get back to the budget now as Helen is getting inpatient!

[Sutage]

hey its maybe leaking from the head
or possibly from the chain? i dunno
any ideas? i dont know much about it:P

[Ixion]

hey its maybe leaking from the head
or possibly from the chain? i dunno
any ideas? i dont know much about it:P

Only way really is to clean it up really clean, then run it lfor a bit, and see where the oil is leaking. Then if necessary remove that cover, repeat etc.

Maybe someone who knows the model well may be able to suggest a likely candidate.

Danger is, those little 250's don't have much oil in them. So if you've got an oil leak it can run the level down quite quickly to the point where there isn't enough to lubricate things properly. That gets REAL expensive.

In the meantime , keep a very close eye on the level and top up freqeuntly

[Toast]

AMCN has just done a comparison at Wakelield park track in Goulburn NSW.
It was between a K5 Gixxer and a Porsche Turbo S.
The cage was driven by Warren Luff - V8 supercar driver, and AMCN editor Sam McLachlan rode the bike. Seems that he's a bit handy as a rider, but not up to Luffs level.
Track conditions were cold, which gave the cage an extra advantage in grip, but the bike still beat the car by a second. Luff said there was no more to be had from the car without suspension mods. The Porsche was faster through 6 of the ten corners and could brake way later thanks to the ceramic brake option that alone costs more than the Gixxer.
But there was no way the Porsche could live with the bike out of corners, even some 600's on the track were leaving it behind.
Acceleration figures were:
400 metres
Porsche 12.47 @ 186 km/h
Gixxer 10.48 @ 228 km/h

0 - 100 Km/h
Porsche 4.26 secs
Gixxer 3.26 secs.

Yeah...reprazent!! Nothing like some good ol' car bashing to make a bike nut smile smugly :yes:

[Toast]

Me and a couple of mates went down scenic drive yesterday in cages.... One of which was a 650Hp $100,000+ mad crazy Toyota MR2 - wonder how many bikes could waste that on "The Drive".....


WT?? Anyone??

I raced some dudes in a mean as red MR2 back from Piha. I've no idea what it was packing, but it was honestly the best sounding car bar none that I've ever heard (including Porsches and Ferraris getting thrashed big time). Two sets of jaws dropped when I rolled up beside them on my CBR250R with barely and brakes and the exhaust nearly falling off. Little bike on some of them tight corners holds its own well, thank you :yes:

[Toast]

they did a test in one of the british bike mags. car were:
BMW M3 CSL,
Lambo Merculiahhhhhhhgo thing,
and a Radical SR3(5?) busa powered thing.

Bike were a Stock-as-a-rock GSXR1000 and a rizla BSB GSXR1000

all on track, drivers were Colin Macrash, one of the bike mags journos and Niel Mackenzie.

Results were,

GSXR1000 Race
Radical,
GSXR1000 Road
Lambo
BMW.

So essientaily what they say is to bet a Italian supercar you need a $20k bike and an average joe blog owner.

Actually I don't think that Niall Mackenzie is your average Joe Bloggs. Still, a decisive victory, go the bikes :clap:

[justsomeguy]

......High end VW, $250k.
So the car is one 0 more...
Must get back to the budget now as Helen is getting inpatient!

Uh - those beautiful Italian cars made by germans and owned by germans are actually sumthin laike 600k-700k

[justsomeguy]

I raced some dudes in a mean as red MR2 back from Piha. I've no idea what it was packing, but it was honestly the best sounding car bar none that I've ever heard (including Porsches and Ferraris getting thrashed big time). Two sets of jaws dropped when I rolled up beside them on my CBR250R with barely and brakes and the exhaust nearly falling off. Little bike on some of them tight corners holds its own well, thank you :yes:

This was a black MR2 with a widebody kit.....

[scumdog]

Me and a couple of mates went down scenic drive yesterday in cages.... One of which was a 650Hp $100,000+ mad crazy Toyota MR2 - wonder how many bikes could waste that on "The Drive".....


WT?? Anyone??

Yeah but could they do it without losing their can out of the drink holder???

I wonder if cage sites have similar pointless threads? "Hell he was fast but couldn't take more than one mate with him and he would have got wet-as with this rain and I bet his CD stacker wouldn't like all the bumping and jarring.." :whistle: :wait:

[bugjuice]

Me and a couple of mates went down scenic drive yesterday in cages.... One of which was a 650Hp $100,000+ mad crazy Toyota MR2 - wonder how many bikes could waste that on "The Drive".....


WT?? Anyone??
is it that MR2 that's got the wide body kit and black paint job, or the one where the engine is so ott that it's going into the boot?
I'd be happy to play with it on a nice day.. give me something to do for a little bit

[unhingedlizard]

Actually I don't think that Niall Mackenzie is your average Joe Bloggs. Still, a decisive victory, go the bikes :clap:


Sorry, should have made that clearer, was in a hurry.
Mackenzie was riding the race bike. The journo was on the GSXR1000 stock bike which was a mag longtermer.

[onearmedbandit]

Uh - those beautiful Italian cars made by germans and owned by germans are actually sumthin laike 600k-700k

JSG - he was taking the piss out of Porsche's being 'top-end VW's'. And since when has VW been Italian??

[myvice]

yeh fuck cars
i was in titirangi today and i saw a porsche go under this underground thing as i went in so i reved my SR shitless, made him smile
made me piss myself
but my SR is leaking oil:(
Oil leak? Don’t worry, the Porsche will have one or two as well!
911 oil leak fix,
Step 1, Remove and disassemble motor.
Step 2, Fully re-build motor making sure to replace EVERY seal, washer and gasket.
Step 3, Replace motor and pray.
Step 4, Give owner huge bill, repeat every 3 years.
SR oil leak fix.
Replace the $2.50 leaking seal with an after market one, repeat every 10 years.

[HDTboy]

car were:
BMW M3 CSL
CSLs aren't as fast as people assume them to be

[unhingedlizard]

not the tool..

[White trash]

Me and a couple of mates went down scenic drive yesterday in cages.... One of which was a 650Hp $100,000+ mad crazy Toyota MR2 - wonder how many bikes could waste that on "The Drive".....


WT?? Anyone??

Bring it to Puke' next week.

Nah, nah, better still. I'll give you a chance.

Bring it to Taupo. Loser has to groom the winners vehicle. Unless you wanna race for "slips", I'm keen for that too.

[SixPackBack]

Bring it to Puke' next week.

Nah, nah, better still. I'll give you a chance.

Bring it to Taupo. Loser has to groom the winners vehicle. Unless you wanna race for "slips", I'm keen for that too.

Let the betting begin.......fucken ay......WT gets the pink slip, only right us lot get something

[justsomeguy]

is it that MR2 that's got the wide body kit and black paint job, or the one where the engine is so ott that it's going into the boot?
I'd be happy to play with it on a nice day.. give me something to do for a little bit

Yup thats it - black with the widebody kit and the engine goes right to the back - no boot, with all kinds of pipes and gauges inside the engine bay and every bloody thing's chrome plated.....and got 18" multispoke alloys..you know the chap??

The fella is part of my cage club met him yesterday for the first time.....

Will be interesting to see how he performs against one of you fellows.....

My money would be on the garbageman...
Still remember the day you wasted that M3 down SH16:devil2:

[justsomeguy]

JSG - he was taking the piss out of Porsche's being 'top-end VW's'. And since when has VW been Italian??

I was talking about Lmao-borghini's..

[bugjuice]

Yup thats it - black with the widebody kit and the engine goes right to the back - no boot, with all kinds of pipes and gauges inside the engine bay and every bloody thing's chrome plated.....and got 18" multispoke alloys..you know the chap??

The fella is part of my cage club met him yesterday for the first time.....

Will be interesting to see how he performs against one of you fellows.....

My money would be on the garbageman...
Still remember the day you wasted that M3 down SH16:devil2:
no, don't know him persay, I saw his ride in a mag once, and a couple of times at 'toy' shows (I'm really there for the chicks and bikes tho ;))

As for that M3, I wasn't even trying (didn't even know he tried!), I just saw him come on and gas it a little, so i just thought I'd just nip in front..

[Zed]

wonder how many bikes could waste that on "The Drive".....Racing on The Drive equals a deathwish, unless you mean just along the few straights? They should call it "The Slip"! :nono:

[Zed]

AMCN has just done a comparison at Wakelield park track in Goulburn NSW.
It was between a K5 Gixxer and a Porsche Turbo S.So glad the bike won, even without a professional racer riding it!

The K5 is hot to trot for sure! :shit:

[justsomeguy]

Racing on The Drive equals a deathwish, unless you mean just along the few straights? They should call it "The Slip"! :nono:

What makes you say that?? If you know the corners it's not too bad..... and at midnight there's no one there.....

By the way I'm talking about Scenic Drive in Titrangi not Tamaki Drive in the city

[justsomeguy]

The K5 is hot to trot for sure! :shit:

And so bloody tiny - how'd they do it:clap: :clap:

[raster]

What makes you say that?? If you know the corners it's not too bad..... and at midnight there's no one there.....

By the way I'm talking about Scenic Drive in Titrangi not Tamaki Drive in the city
I love that road, there was an Austin wreckers yard there I used to frequent.

[motobob]

The K5 is hot to trot for sure! :shit:[/QUOTE]

Hey Zed it looks like Gixxer Thou is starting to pop up in your vocab a lot since Saturday :whistle: I see Loosebruce has to have next weekend off, he may let U use the thou for the day if you ask him nicely. Then take the wife out on Saturday nite and she should let you get one. That way you can shake my CBR b4 I start to show you the tailpipe view :whistle: and when I can get used to the speed you guys travel between corners. It was damn hard trying to judge when to slow down with you maniacs :Punk:

[Zed]

Hey Zed it looks like Gixxer Thou is starting to pop up in your vocab a lot since Saturday :whistle: Probably just a phase I'm going thru? :blink:


...It was damn hard trying to judge when to slow down with you maniacs :Punk:Practise makes perfect (nearly)!

Hope you guys have a great trip down to Taupo on the morrow, keep the rubber side down & shiney side up!!

[Toast]

CSLs aren't as fast as people assume them to be

I think Motor mag put one up against the GT3RS, and it beat it by a second around the track (Willow-something, I think). Pretty impressive in my books.

[Toast]

Yeah but could they do it without losing their can out of the drink holder???

I wonder if cage sites have similar pointless threads? "Hell he was fast but couldn't take more than one mate with him and he would have got wet-as with this rain and I bet his CD stacker wouldn't like all the bumping and jarring.." :whistle: :wait:

Good point, I wonder if they do...

I get sick of the bike vs. car thing sometimes...but then others, my small mind just needs to be fed :)

[SPman]

Probably just a phase I'm going thru? :blink:

Or a phrase!

[mikey]

persoanlly i would rather have the porsche, you lot can go fuck yourselves, sick of the

"oh an this cage pulled out in front of me at band camp an said, i didnt see you "" an ""ill never drive a cage"" an ""fucking cage"" an "cage" ffs save yourself arthritis for a few more years when your older and refer to an automobillle as a car see ythree key hits rather than 4, i am betting that over half of you lot drive cars to work / for work an so on.

get over it.

[SimJen]

Originally Posted by onearmedbandit
JSG - he was taking the piss out of Porsche's being 'top-end VW's'. And since when has VW been Italian??

Lambo is now owned by Audi :(

[White trash]

persoanlly i would rather have the porsche, you lot can go fuck yourselves, sick of the

"oh an this cage pulled out in front of me at band camp an said, i didnt see you "" an ""ill never drive a cage"" an ""fucking cage"" an "cage" ffs save yourself arthritis for a few more years when your older and refer to an automobillle as a car see ythree key hits rather than 4, i am betting that over half of you lot drive cars to work / for work an so on.

get over it.

Ohhhh, tough guy eh?

And what, exactly, do you drive Mr Bong?........ :whistle:

[mikey]

Ohhhh, tough guy eh?

And what, exactly, do you drive Mr Bong?........ :whistle:


as deano said "not quite as tough as a brick wall"

i am one of the few that actually dont drive, not due to financial circumstances or anything :whistle: i love riding in rain an wind an so on, an the huge storage space.

bnut do you hear me prattliong on about,

cage this fuckign cage that, ill never drive a cage, an this fucking cage pulled out in front of me, an fucking cage drivers.

fair enough to go on about police but cages are fucking cool, an you all know it, its just none of you can afford the million dollar cars or real expensive type (porsche turbo as mentioned in this thread) so go on about my bikes faster an costs 10 times less,

well my bike costs ten times less than your bike an ..........

[White trash]

Ten times less?! I woulda put it at thirty times less.......

[HDTboy]

I think Motor mag put one up against the GT3RS, and it beat it by a second around the track (Willow-something, I think). Pretty impressive in my books.
Don't get me wrong, they're not slow. They're just not as fast as people think they are

Bugjuice: An M3 wouldn't keep up to you in a straight drag, throw some corners in and it'll be more interesting, I think the person with the biggest balls would take the prize then

[White trash]

Don't get me wrong, they're not slow. They're just not as fast as people think they are

Bugjuice: An M3 wouldn't keep up to you in a straight drag, throw some corners in and it'll be more interesting, I think the person with the biggest balls would take the prize then

Depends on what sort of corners too. I've ridden with Buggy a couple of times and he's definitely no slouch. I gave a mate a hiding 'round Manfeild back in the day on my RGV when he was driving his M3. I dear say B/Juice could do the same with even more time to spare.

[HDTboy]

I've not been on a fast ride with Mr BJ, but I've driven E46 M3s and CSLs. I'll have to go for a fast ride with him before I can comment, but I know that I'm closer to finding the cornering limits of my bike than of an M3 (possibly less to lose financially if I crash my bike)

[mstriumph]

on another level, isn't this a bit like comparing apples and oranges? - i mean, they are both fruit but ......... horses for courses, surely?

*shaking head in sad disbelief at the wanton mixing of metaphors she's just indulged in*

[mikey]

Ten times less?! I woulda put it at thirty times less.......

oh fUCKFUUFUF off cunt

10 times was an exageration, if your bike was brand new. ie 22000 mark

seeing as yours is a transgendered bashed to death by the tarmac, choking away on its death bed no longer worth 22k maybe 12k after the trash treatment(fair call i say) that makes around 5 times more expensive.

an your supposed to be a once was a bike salesman.......

[Brett]

I love my bike a lot...it is a 1994 zxr250c. But I have to admit, my car will blow it off the road. The bike is faster...till the cars turbo spools up...then byebye bikey.
I don't think i could ever like just one, they are both so much fun for totally different reasons.
There is nothing like opeining the bikes throttle and winding through the gears, or being low as anything in a corner. Equally, there is nothing like find a windy road in the middle of nowhere and taking the car through its paces with a bit of oversteer here and there.
Both take different skills. I am still pretty green on a bike, i only got rid of my chicken strips a couple of months ago, and my wheelies etc. leave lots to be desired. I can definitely hold my own in a car against most guys.
Enjoy them both for their different characteristics.
Fun can be had in or on anything fast...jetski, plane, boat, car, bike..whatever.

[unhingedlizard]

amen to that.

[mstriumph]

is there an echo in here? :whistle:

[inlinefour]

J Clarkson at Top Gear. He'd find some sort of crap excuse for why they car did not win... :weird:

[mikey]

[QUOTE=Brett]I love my bike a lot... I can definitely hold my own in a car against most guys.
[QUOTE]


thing is so can most youn(ish) males in cars. bikes different story. bikes take more skill. not that i have any.

[rc_36_rider]

id have to agree almost anyone can hop in a cage and put there foot down but theres a lot more to riding then just twisting your wrist

[rc_36_rider]

did any one see the episode of top gear where they had a 600 poss a cbr
take on the atom and lose by the smallest of margins

[rc_36_rider]

then i found a mag where they did a gsxr 1000 one standard and one bsb champ v the atom the standard gsxr just lost with a jurno riding it and a pro in the car and then the race bike came out and dicked all over the atom
the also put the standard gsxr against lambos and the like and they didnt come close even with profeshional drivers v a amiture

[rc_36_rider]

the closest thing to the the standard gsxr was the lambo at 200 times the value and the atom my have been faster but still cost twice the price of the bsb bike haha and they were on a tight track giving the atom full advantage

[rc_36_rider]

and there was one of those gay up the buttocks porches in the comparo and it sucked the fat one

[Lou Girardin]

I'd have Porch too, if someone gave me one. Run it for a week till I got pissed off in the gridlock, then buy a cheaper car and a couple of nice bikes. Or three................hang on, 4 is a nice number. Stuff it, 7 nice bikes.
Then I could spend half my riding time trying to decide which to ride.

[WRT]

The thing is, if any of us had the money, then there is no doubt we would not only have our dream bikes, but also the odd car or two stashed away in the warehouse at the foot of our multi million dollar mansion (that has its own private racetrack).

We are all allowed to dream . . . and to want a lambo, or a ferrari, or an atom, is only human. As Brett said, anything fast is fun. For most of us, the most fun you can get for your buck is on two wheels. By all means enjoy it, but dont bag the fun you can have on four wheels too - no one can deny caning the crap out of a fast car is fun . . .