Cop mistakes chocolate for mobile

[superman]

Stolen with no mercy from stuff.co.nz

Police fine an 18 year old for 'driving while chocolate barring'

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A chocolate bar very nearly led to a blemish on a teenager's driving record.
Fortunately, Timaru Herald photographer Mytchall Bransgrove, 18, has been spared a fight to clear his name after police decided to cancel an $80 infringement fee issued when he was stopped for allegedly using his cellphone while driving.
The mixup happened in late December, when Mytchall – waiting at the turning bay on King St to head up Beaconsfield Rd – was about to take a bite from a Moro Gold chocolate bar.
As he turned, he saw the lights of a police car behind him – his first encounter with the law since gaining his restricted licence in August.
"He started talking to me," Mytchall said. "At first I couldn't understand him. I heard the word cellphone – my first thought was, "Is my cellphone on the roof?"
"[The officer] said, `I saw you using your cellphone while you were driving'."
Mytchall said he was confused for a few seconds until he realised the officer had mistaken his chocolate bar for a cellphone.
Despite trying to explain, including pointing out his cellphone was in a closed bag on the passenger side floor, the ticket was issued – and Mytchall lost his appetite.
Had he been talking on his cellphone, Mytchall said he would have paid the fine.
However, unwilling to let his copybook be blotted by a chocolate bar, he wrote to the police, offering his explanation.
Yesterday he received a letter back, saying the infringement had been cancelled "after careful consideration of your comments and the circumstances surrounding the issue of this notice".
He's not holding any grudges. The officer was just doing his job, he said.
"I believe it was a genuine mistake on the police officer's behalf," Mytchall said. "I'm quite glad that nothing's gone on my record."

[superman]

Mr. Mod could you put this into Rant & Rave, accidental Bike Raving post.

[Scuba_Steve]

Stolen with no mercy from stuff.co.nz


Ah no worries they most likely just stole it from someone else anyways

[Zedder]

At least the cops let the guy off in the end.

[Parlane]

This could easily be proved with a account statement from the cellular service provider.

[slofox]

Copper obviously hadn't been to spec-savers, eh?

[Taz]

Mr. Mod could you put this into Rant & Rave, accidental Bike Raving post.

They'll do that for you and give you an infraction also. Mods are traffic cops in training :)

[oneofsix]

At least the cops let the guy off in the end.

The phone was in the closed bag and the cop was shown it. It should never have gone that far FFS.

[Parlane]

"He's not holding any grudges."

Nek Minnit

Front of stuff.co.nz

[oneofsix]

"He's not holding any grudges."

Nek Minnit

Front of stuff.co.nz

:yes: he has his revenge so doesn't have to hold a grudge.

[Zedder]

The phone was in the closed bag and the cop was shown it. It should never have gone that far FFS.

But it did. Check out the cases where cops have taken other offences to full prosecution in court and have been found to be lying.

[oneofsix]

But it did. Check out the cases where cops have taken other offences to full prosecution in court and have been found to be lying.

Agreed and is why their level of respect is just above the bottom feeders. Too many think it is weak to back off when they make a mistake, this cop was seemingly one of those and it was up to someone else with less evidence (they couldn't see the closed bag with the phone in it) to let the guy off. And that's another annoying thing, they let the guy off like they did him a favour rather than say the cocked up by taking it that far.

[Zedder]

Agreed and is why their level of respect is just above the bottom feeders. Too many think it is weak to back off when they make a mistake, this cop was seemingly one of those and it was up to someone else with less evidence (they couldn't see the closed bag with the phone in it) to let the guy off. And that's another annoying thing, they let the guy off like they did him a favour rather than say the cocked up by taking it that far.

Agreed too.

[Parlane]

But it did. Check out the cases where cops have taken other offences to full prosecution in court and have been found to be lying.

And led to jailtime for the cop.

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/policeman-jailed-lying-teen-crash-3804930
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/4355159/Ex-police-officer-sentenced-for-perjury

It's really sad when the victim is someone who doesn't have the resources to defend themselves. Luckily he had a friend who believed in him and took it all the way.
"Mr Potter fought for five years to have the teenager's named cleared and after two witnesses came forward following Mr Cribb's conviction he was given a retrial and police offered no evidence. "
Five fucking years.

"He believed Mr Potter, of Alexandra, has spent up to $40,000 pursuing the matter to get his name cleared. "
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/4049104/Justice-finally-done-in-perjury-case

[Zedder]

And led to jailtime for the cop.

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/policeman-jailed-lying-teen-crash-3804930
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/4355159/Ex-police-officer-sentenced-for-perjury

It's really sad when the victim is someone who doesn't have the resources to defend themselves. Luckily he had a friend who believed in him and took it all the way.
"Mr Potter fought for five years to have the teenager's named cleared and after two witnesses came forward following Mr Cribb's conviction he was given a retrial and police offered no evidence. "
Five fucking years.

"He believed Mr Potter, of Alexandra, has spent up to $40,000 pursuing the matter to get his name cleared. "
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/4049104/Justice-finally-done-in-perjury-case

Yep, and the cops wonder why people aren't respecting them as much.

[red mermaid]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6407...n-police-soars

Then how has respect for the Police gone up in the last 5 years consistently?

And are all these other occupation classes bottom feeders?

[Jantar]

They'll do that for you and give you an infraction also. Mods are traffic cops in training :)
Not for a genuine mistake which the OP asks to be corrected. But it is tempting to infract you for trying to take the thread off topic. :shutup:

[mashman]

Yeah, but how many bars did he have on his phone?

[oneofsix]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/6407...n-police-soars

Then how has respect for the Police gone up in the last 5 years consistently?

And are all these other occupation classes bottom feeders?

Both answered in your thread. But to sum up for you it comes down to the recession, most of the others are viewed as the cause as we as those profiting from it, and you now has land lines.
As Police used to be the top of the respect pile it has been a long slide with some claw back thanks to the likes of the Chch earthquakes.

[Taz]

Not for a genuine mistake which the OP asks to be corrected. But it is tempting to infract you for trying to take the thread off topic. :shutup:

Just do it..... :lol:

[jasonu]

Not for a genuine mistake which the OP asks to be corrected. But it is tempting to infract you for trying to take the thread off topic. :shutup:

Fair enough.

BTW did anyone watch the Supercross last weekend?:Offtopic:

[FJRider]

There was an Aussie police program on a week or so ago ... pulled over a woman for the same offence. She claimed she diddn't have her phone with her. A quick search couldn't locate it. Was issued a ticket anyway. Due to an officer knowing her number ... after she had left, RANG her number ... and she answered it. Police identified themselves ... and she hung up.

She DID pay the fine.

[Zedder]

There was an Aussie police program on a week or so ago ... pulled over a woman for the same offence. She claimed she diddn't have her phone with her. A quick search couldn't locate it. Was issued a ticket anyway. Due to an officer knowing her number ... after she had left, RANG her number ... and she answered it. Police identified themselves ... and she hung up.

She DID pay the fine.

Not only was she a liar then, she was also stupid! Not the same sort of thing as the NZ one though ay?

[FJRider]

Not only was she a liar then, she was also stupid! Not the same sort of thing as the NZ one though ay?

Both had the "innocent" story ... who really knows ... or cares. This guy got let off ... lucky for him.

[slofox]

Similar bullshit ticket.

Several years ago I put a wagon into Turners' Auctions for sale.

Some dork took it out to road test it and got speed camera'd. Coppers sent ME a ticket.

I wrote back explaining that the car was at Turners' at the time, was being driven by a prospective buyer and provided documentary evidence to that effect. They still wanted me to pay the fine, despite the evidence.

Eventually I stated straight out that, should they pursue the matter, I would go to court over it and could pretty well guarantee them a loss since Turners' were prepared to support my contention.

The ultimate insult was that when they agreed to drop the matter they stated that they would "overlook my offence this time". Fuck me, how could they "overlook" something that hadn't happened? Pretty much saying that they had not got it wrong - or it seemed that way to me at the time.

I had to work hard not to go any further.

Wankers.

[Deano]

This could easily be proved with a account statement from the cellular service provider.

Apparently not. A mate of mine had a similar issue. The Police can requisition the documentation easily enough, but Joe Public is expected to pay for the phone provider to send someone along to court at their own cost to verify the account records, which in my mates case was going to cost hundreds of $$.

[FJRider]

Apparently not. A mate of mine had a similar issue. The Police can requisition the documentation easily enough, but Joe Public is expected to pay for the phone provider to send someone along to court at their own cost to verify the account records, which in my mates case was going to cost hundreds of $$.

Or the cop could have looked at the phone, and checked when the last text/call was made.

[Deano]

Or the cop could have looked at the phone, and checked when the last text/call was made.

The offer was made but the cop wasn't interested as he said it could have been quickly deleted.

[oneofsix]

The offer was made but the cop wasn't interested as he said it could have been quickly deleted.

:shit: busy little driver being able to complete his call/text and find and delete the log whilst driving with the mobile disco behind him. Remember he only pulled around the corner. Is it only me or does that seem just a tad unreasonable? It is quicker to make the text than to find and delete its record given that most aren't practised at deleting their individual logs.

Sounds more like the popo was making a dork of himself and mates by trying not to admit he made an honest mistake.

[Scuba_Steve]

Apparently not. A mate of mine had a similar issue. The Police can requisition the documentation easily enough, but Joe Public is expected to pay for the phone provider to send someone along to court at their own cost to verify the account records, which in my mates case was going to cost hundreds of $$.

innocent 'till proven guilty & all that right :rolleyes:

these sorts of things were exactly why that law was established, Govt profit is the reason why they let it be illegally ignored.

[FJRider]

:shit: busy little driver being able to complete his call/text and find and delete the log whilst driving with the mobile disco behind him. Remember he only pulled around the corner. Is it only me or does that seem just a tad unreasonable? It is quicker to make the text than to find and delete its record given that most aren't practised at deleting their individual logs.


My thoughts too ...

[Zedder]

Sounds a bit sus ay, like a ghost phone thing going on ay?

[oneofsix]

Sounds a bit sus ay, like a ghost phone thing going on ay?

does that come with ghost chips bro?

[Zedder]

does that come with ghost chips bro?

Yep, and a super size me helping of ghost weed too.

[red mermaid]

What was the date of the survey showing Police at the top of the pile?

Police have been consistently improving for the last 5 years, but the 1st big earthquake happened 17 months ago so your contention doesn't stack up.



Both answered in your thread. But to sum up for you it comes down to the recession, most of the others are viewed as the cause as we as those profiting from it, and you now has land lines.
As Police used to be the top of the respect pile it has been a long slide with some claw back thanks to the likes of the Chch earthquakes.

[Zedder]

Check this out then:Lack of respect: police
Home » News » Dunedin
By Debbie Porteous on Tue, 23 Feb 2010
http://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin | Police

Dave Campbell People are becoming less respectful of authority, the South's top policeman said yesterday in the wake of three violent assaults on police - including one in Oamaru - in three days.
"That has been the trend over many years. I think everyone would agree," Acting Superintendent Dave Campbell said.

The Government is considering harsher sentences for offenders who attack police officers, with Police Minister Judith Collins yesterday saying she will consider a law change to better protect police officers.

She said she would look at tougher penalties, but rebuilding respect for the law should be the first step.

"What I've asked to find out is whether or not the law is being properly applied. That's one side of it.

"But, actually, we'd rather stop the attacks in the first place, and I think it's extremely important that we start to rebuild the respect and fear for the law that we expect," she told Radio New Zealand.

A police report about increases in acts of violence against its staff is due to be received by Mrs Collins at the end of the week.

The report was called for after Senior Constable Jeremy Snow was shot when checking a suspicious vehicle in South Auckland in December.

Urgency was added to the matter after three police officers were attacked in separate incidents at the weekend.

Three men were charged and released on bail yesterday over an assault on a police officer at an Oamaru drink-driving checkpoint on Sunday night; off-duty officer John Connolly was left seriously injured with broken bones after trying to break up a fight south of Auckland and having bystanders turn on him; and, near Whangarei, a police officer had part of his lip bitten off when he tried to breath-test a suspected drink-driver.

Prime Minister John Key yesterday condemned the attacks and said the country would have been appalled.

"They were barbaric acts and quite frankly they were disgusting, and if anyone thinks the Government is going to sit back while police officers' lips are being bitten off and do nothing about it then they need to think again," Mr Key said.

He said penalties against those who assaulted police would be reassessed, including whether it should be mandatory that such attacks be an aggravating factor in sentencing.

The law gives judges discretion on whether that should be the case.

Acting Supt Campbell would not be drawn on whether he would like to see harsher penalties for people who assault police.

However, he said assaults on the police in the southern district were common, although the number of people charged with assaulting police in the Dunedin-Clutha police area declined last year compared with 2008.

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