Honda is a funny old company...

[Crasherfromwayback]

They sure have made some weird and wonderful race bikes over the years.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/archive/vegas12/honda/index.htm

[nodrog]

Looks like they tried to copy one of those harley thingeemebobs

[Crasherfromwayback]

Looks like they tried to copy one of those harley thingeemebobs

Turning the CX engine around in the frame was a goodin!

[Paul in NZ]

I've always liked Honda's efforts to move things forwards and inovative designs in much the same way I like Moto Guzzis efforts back in the classic period to try all sorts of engine configurations.

[nodrog]

Turning the CX engine around in the frame was a goodin!

its better than everybody elses idea of just using it for a mooring.

[Crasherfromwayback]

its better than everybody elses idea of just using it for a mooring.

Certainly all the 4 or 5 hundred was good for.

[DidJit]

Nice pipes. Inside thigh would get a bit toasty though, wouldn't it?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Nice pipes. Inside thigh would get a bit toasty though, wouldn't it?

Bit hot down the straight...nice fresh air when the leg is out though!

[Paul in NZ]

Certainly all the 4 or 5 hundred was good for.

Hundreds of motorcycle courier riders would disagree..... (mind you the alternator idea was a bit silly)

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hundreds of motorcycle courier riders would disagree..... (mind you the alternator idea was a bit silly)

Should've got a GS500 instead.

[merv]

Yep Honda always try stuff and its race history record is second to none in total. No other manufacturer has won at so many different classes of competition, especially when you add on the car stuff like F1 and Indy.

Honda uses innovative stuff to psych the opposition and does it first - remember "big bang", then "screamer" and more lately "seamless gearbox". A lot of it is just a name, but then if it works.

As for seamless gearbox, have you read this story from early last year? http://motomatters.com/analysis/2011/03/19/honda_s_magic_gearbox_worth_a_few_hundre.html
(http://motomatters.com/analysis/2011/03/19/honda_s_magic_gearbox_worth_a_few_hundre.html)
Basically it puts the Ducati in a different space than the Honda and also Yamaha.

You shouldn't laugh that hard about the CX either they weren't that slow given how old a vintage they are. I've seen a few punted along. They were just a weird design though and why?

[willytheekid]

Should've got a GS500 instead.

:eek:
I had the mighty GS550 when I was a kid(well...my big brother did, BUT I STOLE IT ALL THE TIME!:shifty:)...note...Do NOT wheel stand!!, they are damn heavy and drift to the left (towards the parked cars!:laugh:)...and yes...I tried MANY times..same result!:weird:

[Crasherfromwayback]

.

You shouldn't laugh that hard about the CX either they weren't that slow given how old a vintage they are. I've seen a few punted along. They were just a weird design though and why?

Yes they were Merv. The Boyle Bros made me use a CX400 Euro for a week as punishment once. Was the slowest week I can remember.

The 500 was slightly 'faster'. But a GS500 would waste one.

[merv]

The 500 was slightly 'faster'. But a GS500 would waste one.

You talking the GS500 4 cylinder from 1979 on, or the GS500 twin from 1989 on, or both lol?

CX dates from 1978 so not a young design, and as I said a weird one at that.

[Crasherfromwayback]

the GS500 twin from 1989 on,

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That one...

[HenryDorsetCase]

Turning the CX engine around in the frame was a goodin!

a very successful one too.

[Crasherfromwayback]

a very successful one too.

Don't think as successful as the RS750 though.

[oldrider]

Honda's problem is that they make bikes for you to ride rather than bikes you "want" to ride!

Blue Wing Honda exacerbate the issue by only importing the bikes that "they" want to sell rather than the bikes that "you" (the customer) want to own and ride!

Otherwise Honda are the best built most reliable bikes in the world! IMHO! :yes:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Don't think as successful as the RS750 though.

oh dear, were we not talking about the RS750?

[Crasherfromwayback]

oh dear, were we not talking about the RS750?

Nope. The CX turned around in the frame was a very different beast. It was the NS750.

The RS750 was a far more competitive beast right from the get go.

[Motu]

Crasher's been waiting for me - here is the first attempt with the CX flattracker. I guess they proved it could work and then got serious - turned it around in more ways than one.

On the RS750 - Word from the team was that they spotted the XLV750 in a walk around the Honda factory, and thought ''Hey, we could use that!'', and claim not to know how it came about. But I'm still suspicious about the un Honda 45 degree, aircooled dry sumped engine with identical bore and stroke to the XR750. Just too convenient to find in a corner.

257780

[Crasherfromwayback]

Crasher's been waiting for me - here is the first attempt with the CX flattracker. I guess they proved it could work and then got serious - turned it around in more ways than one.

On the RS750 - Word from the team was that they spotted the XLV750 in a walk around the Honda factory, and thought ''Hey, we could use that!'', and claim not to know how it came about. But I'm still suspicious about the un Honda 45 degree, aircooled dry sumped engine with identical bore and stroke to the XR750. Just too convenient to find in a corner.

257780

Thought you'd be lurking round a thread like this!

In case you're wondering where your CW's have got to...we clean forgot to renew our sub...but should be back into it shortly!

Pete

[Brian d marge]

loved my old cx, cr,and 360
they have booked until the end of March at reasonable rates
they are ok by me ......
but seriously , they are a world unto themselves. ..... mean they earn good money, they have a safe job with really good benefits...but for they are tight with money.....
going drinkin next month with the boys from the car design team.....last time we had a kitty ...I speak English five bucks in the kitty....
I could have made a young woman very happy that night without money I put in that jar...baskets

now back to bikes

the best bike ever is.....

the Royal Enfield....


stephen

[roadracingoldfart]

The Boyle Bros made me use a CX400 Euro for a week as punishment once. Was the slowest week I can remember.



Thats because Mark & J.B. knew you were too much of a pussy to ride anything with power. And i heard you never remembered a whole week anyway !!!:facepalm: :shit: :shutup:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Thats because Mark & J.B. knew you were too much of a pussy to ride anything with power. And i heard you never remembered a whole week anyway !!!:facepalm: :shit: :shutup:

Fuck off Knobjob. More like because I roosted in their faces with anything like what they were riding and needed an anchor to slow me down.:Punk:

[roadracingoldfart]

Fuck off Knobjob. More like because I roosted in their faces with anything like what they were riding and needed an anchor to slow me down.:Punk:

Who you callin :gob: Knobjob ?? Chrome head. Sit over there and comb ya hair like all the other cricket players.:brick::oi-grr:

[nudemetalz]

Someone else obviously saw potential in the "Maggot"....

[Brian d marge]

Someone else obviously saw potential in the "Maggot"....

Drugs should be banned in all sports

Stephen

would LOVE some of what that man smoked ......

[jellywrestler]

That one...

so you really need to be comparing it with the 89 honda v twin then, bros revere etc

[Crasherfromwayback]

so you really need to be comparing it with the 89 honda v twin then, bros revere etc

Not a 650 Bros, cause that's hardly fair. Mind you...they're not a powerhouse either.

[ducatilover]

Not a 650 Bros, cause that's hardly fair. Mind you...they're not a powerhouse either.
Mine went well. :innocent: not the most factory spec example though.
One problem it had was a loose nut between the seat and bars.



I do think the BrosS650 spanks the GS.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I do think the BrosS650 spanks the GS.

I should hope so. 150cc at that engine size is quite an advantage!

[ducatilover]

I should hope so. 150cc at that engine size is quite an advantage!

The 650 had a terrible set up front end though :weep:
Having ridden both, the Honda is nicer. But only due to being the size of a ciggy lighter and with more torque. I doubt there's a huge difference up top between two standard ones, but hey, who cares, they're a bit slow anyway.

[jellywrestler]

Not a 650 Bros, cause that's hardly fair. Mind you...they're not a powerhouse either.

never mentioned size but they're out there in 400, 600 and 650 versions so you can at least draw a fairish comparison

[Crasherfromwayback]

and 650 versions so you can at least draw a fairish comparison

Don't tell anyone, but I really like the 650's!

[ducatilover]

never mentioned size but they're out there in 400, 600 and 650 versions so you can at least draw a fairish comparison
The 600 was the NTV Revere, Bros was 400/647. The Revere had shaft drive and more weight and was somewhat boring...

[Brian d marge]

Don't tell anyone, but I really like the 650's!

me too except that rear tyre......

stephen

[nudemetalz]

Even Bros 650's can look cool.

THis one is rather neat (if a little Monsterish)..

[ducatilover]

Even Bros 650's can look cool.

THis one is rather neat (if a little Monsterish)..
I think the factory 18in rear looks hot on them (later model ones had 'em) and they need the factory low clip-ons and close ratio box.

I'm biased, 'cause mine had that stuff :yes: