Why do some "idiots" bash on Honda riders?

[numbersixteen16]

I dont understand it, no bike Ive ever owned has been better than the Hondas Ive had.
Yet there is about 30% of motorsport enthusiasts hating them, when I ask why, their reply is "cos they're gay"? Or they look at me blankly for a few seconds trying to spit something out.

While I was looking for my road bike, I mentioned to one seller that I really was looking for a cbr (got an fzr instead because of cheaper price), his reply - Dont get a Honda, theyre pieces of shit. I laughed at him (in my head) and decided that theres no point buying a bike off someone who doesnt know motorcycles.

Both Honda bikes and cars prove to have amazing build quality, and are extremely reliable, as well as being some of the quickest things out there.

I may have missed a joke or something a few years back? Someone care to explain..

[Jantar]

There is nothing wrong with Hondas. They are perfect for taking your boyfriend for rides.

[FJRider]

You meet the nicest people on a honda. Apparently.

[hellokitty]

People will always bash other brands of bikes - i have no idea why, but it gets really boring really quickly.
I have owned Kawasaki, Yamaha, Suzuki, Honda, BMW and Harley Davidson motorbikes.... all different and all were cool bikes (except the Kawasaki because it was in pieces and never went)

[sil3nt]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/03/honda_logo_gay_opt.jpg

I don't talk to anyone who owns a Honda.

[Usarka]

Why do some "idiots" bash on Honda riders?

Possibly for the amusing reaction. :nya:

[Drew]

Because Honda's are for fags!

Why do some people not understand this well publicised fact?

[FJRider]

People will always bash other brands of bikes - i have no idea why, but it gets really boring really quickly.
I have owned Kawasaki, Yamaha, Suzuki, Honda, BMW and Harley Davidson motorbikes.... all different and all were cool bikes (except the Kawasaki because it was in pieces and never went)

As she says ... It' human (ok ... biker ... jurys still out on the human bit) nature to highlight the percieved deficiencies of makes of motorcycles that you dont own. And their riders/owners habits and abilities. :yes:

Things like ... Harley riders never wave ... is total bullshit. I know of one that did ... once. :innocent:

[FJRider]

I don't talk to anyone who owns a Honda.

A good reason to buy a honda then ... ;)

[bogan]

Things like ... Harley riders never wave ... is total bullshit. I know of one that did ... once. :innocent:

We've been over this before, his hand simply came off the bar due to vibration, common issue on those shitboxes.

As for the honda thing, pure jealousy, they just want to be fags too, but lack the courage.

[gatch]

I had a suzuki once.

Since then I've only had hondas.

And I'm way more awesome than all of you cunts.

[mossy1200]

I heard a rumor about how honda lube is made.

[Tigadee]

I dont understand it, no bike Ive ever owned has been better than the Hondas Ive had.
Yet there is about 30% of motorsport enthusiasts hating them, when I ask why, their reply is "cos they're gay"? Or they look at me blankly for a few seconds trying to spit something out.

One word: JEALOUSY.

[haydes55]

I don't talk to anyone who owns a Honda.

Your name is Sil3nt.... Do you talk to anyone who rides any bike? haha

My first 2 bikes were Honda XR125 and XR200 powered. Bullet proof engines.

Have a slight urge to get a CBR600 and practice a shitload til I beat all of you guys on any track :nya:

(Yes we all know that isn't going to happen unless I win lotto but still. I heard it's the thought that counts).

[F5 Dave]

Sorry we spell it 'ghey' around here, but words to the same effect.

I hate them because they are the evil empire & have done their best to pressurise racing bodies to give 4 strokes unfair capacity advantages against real GP bikes. 500cc vs 990, well duh. fuck em.

I only own one presently but yesterday it's Yamaha piston made a break for freedom. Should have known, happened to the last Honda I fitted a Yam piston to.

[mossy1200]

This Thread is going to last a long time its the Mother Load of all cans of worms.

[FJRider]

This Thread is going to last a long time its the Mother Load of all cans of worms.

KB only deals in facts ... unsubstaniated facts though ... in my opinion.

[Maha]

when I ask why, their reply is "cos they're gay"? ..only to the uneducated



Or they look at me blankly for a few seconds trying to spit something out....probably cum.

[mossy1200]

when I ask why, their reply is "cos they're gay"? ..only to the uneducated



Or they look at me blankly for a few seconds trying to spit something out....probably cum.

Are you Learned in the way of gay?

[Usarka]

KB only deals in facts ... unsubstaniated facts though ... in my opinion.

Got a link for that?

[Maha]

Are you Learned in the way of gay?

I've done my research....:blink:

[FJRider]

Got a link for that?

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/147015-Why-do-some-quot-idiots-quot-bash-on-Honda-riders?p=1130263338#post1130263338

[FJRider]

I've done my research....:blink:

honda riders club member ???

[ducatilover]

Because race car. :yes:

[Big Dave]

Because it's an 'in' joke for internet nerds.

Pay it the attention it deserves.

Eventually they'll go back to Dungeons and Dragons and Clearasil.

[Maha]

honda riders club member ???

Southlands Lady's United Tourettes Society

[FJRider]

Southlands Lady's United Tourettes Society

I should have known ... :pinch:

[dogsnbikes]

Bit like the plonka around town here that wont ride with any jap bikes,doesn't have any tools too work on his own bike,


and yet drives around town in a Mazda Atenza :brick:



Insecurity amongst the biking community I reakon,its not the bike that counts its the smile that you get from riding that matters

[flyingcrocodile46]

Why do some "idiots" bash on Honda riders? (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/147015-Why-do-some-quot-idiots-quot-bash-on-Honda-riders)


Cause they are small minded bigots who don't understand how easily Aids is spread? What do I win?

[misterO]

It may be because Honda's army of engineers develop their sportbikes so well that they don't need to add traction control or launch control or wheelie control or quick shifters or ride by wire or electronic suspension adjustment or multiple engine map modes or any of the other AIDS that other brands need just to keep their riders upright. ;)

[FJRider]

It may be because Honda's army of engineers develop their sportbikes so well that they don't need to add traction control or launch control or wheelie control or quick shifters or ride by wire or electronic suspension adjustment or multiple engine map modes or any of the other AIDS that other brands need just to keep their riders upright. ;)

True ... they keep them simple to suit their riders ...

[speights_bud]

This might have something to do with it.... Sorry can't find the original video that went with the song


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1HaCGZYrMI

[FJRider]

An old ad ...

http://www.honda50run.com/images/stories/honda%2050%20brochure%2012.jpg

[ducatilover]

He's not very sexy.
It's a scam.

[cheshirecat]

Before coming out here (not sure if coming out is the right phrase) I'd never come (oh dear) across associating gay with Honda. Is it a NZ thing?

[Virago]

Why do some "idiots" bash on Honda riders?...

Homophobia.

[gatch]

Does the dude or the rifle come with the bike ?

Preferably the dude.

[DEATH_INC.]

"Hondas, they're gay"
Yes it's a fact of life, get used to it.

[Swoop]

What was the winner of the last Moto GP riding, again?:scratch:

[Geeen]

I don't talk to anyone who owns a Honda.

Don't YOU own a Honda?? The VFR400 in your sig pic???

[DEATH_INC.]

What was the winner of the last Moto GP riding, again?:scratch:
The supposed best rider in the world is a fag, so what does this prove?

[Swoop]

The supposed best rider in the world is a fag, so what does this prove?
That he's riding a ducati and cannot get it to perform?:scratch:

[DEATH_INC.]

That he's riding a ducati and cannot get it to perform?:scratch:
True, tho I suspect he's ridden a Honda or 2 in his time... :dodge:

[scumdog]

An old ad ...



Weatherby.

Now THERE'S a rifle for rich people!

[jaffaonajappa]

Hondaaas = boring dull pieces of shyte.

With perhaps 4 exceptions.....but even owning one of them (which I don't), I still doubt Id appreciate the Honda brand.

Anyone have a reel cheap one of these for sale?
RC30
NS400R
early '60's 250/4(or more).

All the rest, boring ugly boring and usually fucken Boooring pieces of crap made for volve drivers having a mid ice crisis. Or kids from Malaysia.

[sil3nt]

Don't YOU own a Honda?? The VFR400 in your sig pic???I am way to lazy to put a captain obvious pic in here right now.

[scumdog]

I dont understand it, no bike Ive ever owned has been better than the Hondas Ive had.
Yet there is about 30% of motorsport enthusiasts hating them.

So where is the poll ya got THAT figure from??:crazy:

And try owning a Harley and wearing tassles, a better combo for baiting drongos and twats ya couldn't find...

[Stylo]

Sorry we spell it 'ghey' around here, but words to the same effect.

I hate them because they are the evil empire & have done their best to pressurise racing bodies to give 4 strokes unfair capacity advantages against real GP bikes. 500cc vs 990, well duh. fuck em.

I only own one presently but yesterday it's Yamaha piston made a break for freedom. Should have known, happened to the last Honda I fitted a Yam piston to.

Take a deep breath mate ...Honda make some good Bikes too,

Or they used to ......


.258113258114

[bogan]

All the rest, boring ugly boring and usually fucken Boooring pieces of crap made for volve drivers having a mid ice crisis. Or kids from Malaysia.

which is nothing like an AX100 :nya:

I reckon it's just cos honda make notable bikes (tall poppy syndrome etc). With the exception of the KR1 and RGV, I'd be struggling to name something from another jappa manufacturer worth remembering, fucking beige IL4 crap, or other shite stamped out by the asses of a thousand slant eyes.

[numbersixteen16]

So where is the poll ya got THAT figure from??:crazy:


Thats about the number of people that Ive spoken to at track days/other events that hate them

[flyingcrocodile46]

And try owning a Harley and wearing tassles, a better combo for baiting drongos and twats ya couldn't find...

Exactly. After all, what's owning a herdley all about if it ain't to justify the buying of gay pirate merchandise with which to enitice each other and grow the herd. ;)

[DEATH_INC.]

OOOhhhh look, it's a honda/harley bashing thread, all in one!!!! :shutup:

[steve_t]

Is it time yet? :corn:

http://cdn03.cdnwp.celebuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/29/royal-wedding-beatrice-hat-poll-400x300.jpg

[FJRider]

And try owning a Harley and wearing tassles, a better combo for baiting drongos and twats ya couldn't find...

The success of a product ... is all about how it is marketed ...

http://bmpr.com/chip_martin/blogs/images/chip_martin/bogusharleyad.jpg

[sugilite]

You must of missed the memo explaining the acronym
Horny
Onerous
Nobs
Doing
Arse

[GrayWolf]

which is nothing like an AX100 :nya:

I reckon it's just cos honda make notable bikes (tall poppy syndrome etc). With the exception of the KR1 and RGV, I'd be struggling to name something from another jappa manufacturer worth remembering, fucking beige IL4 crap, or other shite stamped out by the asses of a thousand slant eyes.

Geeezus Man, get back in the padded closet you've been living in. lets see not notable bikes, not worth remembering shite....

Hmmmm
Kawasaki,
Z1-900, H1-500, H2-750, GPz900 (LC), GPz 1100 air cooled, Z650, 250 Samuri, 350 Avenger, S1,S2 250/350. ZL-900/1000 Eliminator. ZZR1100

Suzuki,
750/1000/1100 Katana, GSX750/850/1100, 250 Hustler, X-7, GT750 (kettle), RE-5, M109, GSX1100EF, GT500 (2T), RG500, RGV250, GS500, GSXR750/1100/1200

Yamaha,
RD-250/350/400. XS1100, FJ-1100/1200, FJR-1300, XS-650, FZ1000 exup, V max, R1, FZR750, Thunderace, LC250/350(rz),
and thats just the older stuff that I have taken note of over the years...

[bogan]

Geeezus Man, get back in the padded closet you've been living in. lets see not notable bikes, not worth remembering shite....

Hmmmm
Kawasaki,
Z1-900, H1-500, H2-750, GPz900 (LC), GPz 1100 air cooled, Z650, 250 Samuri, 350 Avenger, S1,S2 250/350. ZL-900/1000 Eliminator. ZZR1100

Suzuki,
750/1000/1100 Katana, GSX750/850/1100, 250 Hustler, X-7, GT750 (kettle), RE-5, M109, GSX1100EF, GT500 (2T), RG500, RGV250, GS500, GSXR750/1100/1200

Yamaha,
RD-250/350/400. XS1100, FJ-1100/1200, FJR-1300, XS-650, FZ1000 exup, V max, R1, FZR750, Thunderace, LC250/350(rz),
and thats just the older stuff that I have taken note of over the years...

Ok I'll give you that, I did forget about the RGs, the rest are just beige :yawn:

[Gremlin]

For goodness sake... how many of these threads do we have to have? How many have to be educated?

If you own a Honda, you're a flaming fucken homo.

Are you giving or receiving?

[FJRider]

For goodness sake... how many of these threads do we have to have? How many have to be educated?

If you own a Honda, you're a flaming fucken homo.

Are you giving or receiving?

Dam these "You must spread ..." notifications ... :angry:

[ducatilover]

For goodness sake... how many of these threads do we have to have? How many have to be educated?

If you own a Honda, you're a flaming fucken homo.

Are you giving or receiving?
For you? I'll take. I hear you're a rabid lover :love:

[Berries]

Because it's an 'in' joke for internet nerds.

Pay it the attention it deserves.

Eventually they'll go back to Dungeons and Dragons and Clearasil.
Big Dave obviously has one.

Get it?

Big Dave?

Nah, carry on then.

[cowboyz]

Things like ... Harley riders never wave ... is total bullshit. I know of one that did ... once. :innocent:

he wasnt waving.. he was flagging down a ride... I read somewhere (on the internet) that 95% of Harleys are still on the road... the other 5% made it home...


Its amazing the steriotypes that some have... I mean,.. I have 2 kawasakis and often people think that Im extremely good looking with a great personality and an awesome lover.. Funny how steriotypes can be so accurate.

[Brian d marge]

Hmmm .....hello sailor ...

Dont knock it till you tried it luvie

Stephen

[James Deuce]

It's because Honda riders wave enthusiastically. Makes other people feel insecure about their sexuality. Get a Honda rider to show you the KB wave.

[Drew]

It may be because Honda's army of engineers develop their sportbikes so well that they don't need to add traction control or launch control or wheelie control or quick shifters or ride by wire or electronic suspension adjustment or multiple engine map modes or any of the other AIDS that other brands need just to keep their riders upright. ;)


True ... they keep them simple to suit their riders ...

Ever ridden the Honda thou back to back with the other three manufacturers flagship bike?

They don't need the flash stuff, because they don't go as well.

[nzvlogger]

Ever ridden the Honda thou back to back with the other three manufacturers flagship bike?

They don't need the flash stuff, because they don't go as well.

Ive had a quite a few bikes and i gota say Honda definitely some of the best i had, especially the VFR and BROS

[nodrog]

Ive had a quite a few boyfriends and i gota say Honda definitely some of the best bumsex i had, especially with my BROS

well there you go then

[jonbuoy]

No idea, NZ thing. Sometimes heard them called old mans bikes but not gay.

[The Pastor]

because im gay, i ride a honda. And i love it.

[bogan]

well there you go then

:lol: Took me a while to get that, must be cos I'm used to the correct pronunciation of Bros (ends like Ross, not like Hose).

[huff3r]

Well I know why the cars are gay, thats an easy one...

NISMO = Nissan Motorsport

Honda Motorsport = HOMO (Isn't it obvious?) ;)

[Parlane]

Well I know why the cars are gay, thats an easy one...

NISMO = Nissan Motorsport

Honda Motorsport = HOMO (Isn't it obvious?) ;)

Either is has to be HONMO, or NISMO should be NIMO

http://win7wallpapers.com/thumbs/nimo-t2.jpg

[SPP]

Ever ridden the Honda thou back to back with the other three manufacturers flagship bike? ...

A journo once summed up a Honda vs Kawasaki supersport comparison saying "Honda is the girlfriend, Kawasaki is the booty call!"

[arkeo]

I may have missed a joke or something a few years back? Someone care to explain..

LOL, the same happens about 20.000 km far from your wonderful country. The world is a village, maybe.

cheers!

A.

[G4L4XY]

I've been thinking about what bike I should upgrade to when I get my full license...I think i'd rather a bike that was reliable over something I have to fork money out for all the time. But then after owning a hyosung I think anyone would be over spending money on bikes.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hondaaas = boring dull pieces of shyte.

With perhaps 4 exceptions.....but even owning one of them (which I don't), I still doubt Id appreciate the Honda brand.

Anyone have a reel cheap one of these for sale?
RC30
NS400R
early '60's 250/4(or more).

All the rest, boring ugly boring and usually fucken Boooring pieces of crap made for volve drivers having a mid ice crisis. Or kids from Malaysia.

Ever ridden a CR500 etc? Or and RS250 GP bike?

I have owned and raced both, and both would make you poo your pants.

[ducatilover]

Ever ridden the Honda thou back to back with the other three manufacturers flagship bike?

They don't need the flash stuff, because they don't go as well.
But people keep saying the Honda is the better road bike...
;)

[Maha]

I have 2 kawasakis and often people think that Im extremely good looking with a great personality and an awesome lover.. Funny how steriotypes can be so accurate.

I can vouch for that, he does have two Kawasakis...:cool:

[bogan]

I can vouch for that, he does have two Kawasakis...:cool:

You vouching on the other parts too? Might cast some doubt on the whole topic if so :shifty:

[Maha]

You vouching on the other parts too? Might cast some doubt on the whole topic if so :shifty:

....both heresy and conjecture.

[numbersixteen16]

Well I know why the cars are gay, thats an easy one...

NISMO = Nissan Motorsport

Honda Motorsport = HOMO (Isn't it obvious?) ;)

Haha, I actually chuckled

[jasonu]

I had a suzuki once.

Since then I've only had hondas.

And I'm way more awesome than all of you cunts.

About the same time you came out???

[Big Dave]

Big Dave obviously has one.

Get it?

Big Dave?

Nah, carry on then.


Ah owns a Kawasaki.

[SimJen]

Haters gonna hate no matter what.
Girl I work with laughs at every car other than Sooby's as her fella owns an old fucked WRX Wagon! I tell her that half of them will beat his car, including a few high powered NA Honda's but she never believes me!
I've owned virtually all the jap brands and in my mind there is not much difference.
You buy what you want to buy and if others don't like it its their problem.
I don't get these personal tirades against individual brands, its as petty as the age old Holden vs Ford debate!

[placidfemme]

I love this thread. Who gives a shit really? If being called gay/ghey is an issue, don't buy a fucking Honda, simple.

Honda vs. Kawasaki/Suz etc same as my bike shop is better than yours, my cock is bigger than yours and your mum has slept with more people.

The bike is a minor part (literally... only an extention of an even more minor part for most guys). In the end someone can have a 2012 thou in whatever brand suits his PJ's and any half talented asswipe on a 250 will kick his ass, the bikes ability is only as good as the riders, and normally that is not so great. Brand is wank factor, based on your masty club you pick a brand.

Back to it. Your all gay

[yod]

Brand is wank factor, based on your masty club you pick a brand.

That is fucking mint. :killingme

[Maha]

I love this thread. Who gives a shit really? If being called gay/ghey is an issue, don't buy a fucking Honda, simple.

Honda vs. Kawasaki/Suz etc same as my bike shop is better than yours, my cock is bigger than yours and your mum has slept with more people.

The bike is a minor part (literally... only an extention of an even more minor part for most guys). In the end someone can have a 2012 thou in whatever brand suits his PJ's and any half talented asswipe on a 250 will kick his ass, the bikes ability is only as good as the riders, and normally that is not so great. Brand is wank factor, based on your masty club you pick a brand.

Back to it. Your all gay

When I bought a Honda in 08' I had to shorten my screen name for fear of being hugged by any man for longer than 7.5 seconds.:sweatdrop

[scumdog]

Back to it. Your all gay

'You're all gay'

Remember, good grammar is of paramount importance.

Especially on KB....;)

[bogan]

Brand is wank factor, based on your masty club you pick a brand.

Your masty club must be into some serious S&M :eek5:

http://www.solobizcoach.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/cattle-branding.jpg

[bogan]

'You're all gay'

Remember, good grammar is of paramount importance.

Especially on KB....;)

Not necessarily, 'your all gay' might just mean you don't have a heterosexual bone in your body.








Hilariously accurate double entendre that was I reckon.

[scumdog]

Not necessarily, 'your all gay' might just mean you don't have a heterosexual bone in your body.

Wouldn't that be 'you are (you're?) all gay?:shifty::whistle:






Or were you just trying to troll a grammar nazi?????:eek5:

[bogan]

Or were you just trying to troll a grammar nazi?????:eek5:

Slander :crazy: I wouldn't never :shifty:

[Deano]

Ever ridden the Honda thou back to back with the other three manufacturers flagship bike?

They don't need the flash stuff, because they don't go as well.

Have you ? (talking 08+) Na didn't think so ! Bwahaha

It's all just a larf really - probably cause Honda were the first (Jappas) to upset the Euros by beating them. Don't mention the war LOL

[baffa]

Not too fussed on Honda Cars, some great models, just not my thing.

The biggest actual complaint I have seen about Honda bikes is that they dont have any character. I'm yet to ride these characterless bikes, but all of the Hondas I have ridden have all been fantastic in different ways. Fav so far is the older Fireblades they act like they want to kill you, and yet the ride as nice as you like. Lucky me, I get to ride one every day.





I find it quicker to get to my man dates that way :sunny:

[steve_t]

Slander :crazy: I wouldn't never :shifty:

Libel :corn::corn:

[placidfemme]

Or were you just trying to troll a grammar nazi?????:eek5:

I'm trolling for anyone, don't care, my prejudice and general distaste is unbounded by bike, race, grammar and gender.

Besides, the proof of "gay" in reference to motorcycles must seriously be Yamaha. Have you seen some of them Virago riders? I believe it is an initiation stage, you ain't no dyke till you've owned a Virago... now try harder

[Berries]

Shouldn't the title be pash not bash?

[Drew]

But people keep saying the Honda is the better road bike...
;)No one should buy a thou as, just a road bike.


Have you ? (talking 08+) Na didn't think so ! BwahahaNa, I've just watched them get beaten a lot.


It's all just a larf really - probably cause Honda were the first (Jappas) to upset the Euros by beating them. Don't mention the war LOLWhich Honda and in what class are you referring to here bro?

[gatch]

About the same time you came out???

About the same time I pulled out and came on your arse and back.


I'm trolling for anyone, don't care, my prejudice and general distaste is unbounded by bike, race, grammar and gender.

Besides, the proof of "gay" in reference to motorcycles must seriously be Yamaha. Have you seen some of them Virago riders? I believe it is an initiation stage, you ain't no dyke till you've owned a Virago... now try harder

Now that is fuckin funny.

Damned dykes.

Put your finger in one, stop a leak.

[Eddieb]

Cause Mr Honda makes his motorbikes so good they are almost bland as all the character has been designed out of them.

And any good joke has to have a fall guy, so well, why not Honda?

[pritch]

I love this thread. Who gives a shit really? If being called gay/ghey is an issue, don't buy a fucking Honda, simple.

Honda vs. Kawasaki/Suz etc same as my bike shop is better than yours, my cock is bigger than yours and your mum has slept with more people.

The bike is a minor part (literally... only an extention of an even more minor part for most guys). In the end someone can have a 2012 thou in whatever brand suits his PJ's and any half talented asswipe on a 250 will kick his ass, the bikes ability is only as good as the riders, and normally that is not so great. Brand is wank factor, based on your masty club you pick a brand.

Back to it. Your all gay

It's a sad commentary in a way, but that is the most coherent post in the entire thread :whistle:

[jrandom]

Your all gay

u r

[ducatilover]

No one should buy a thou as, just a road bike.
Yes they do.

But then they're gay.

[jrandom]

No one should buy a thou as just a road bike.

Inconceivable.

[Henk]

It's because Honda owners are the most brand loyal of all the jap makes, and because they are all gay. I guess once you have come out of the closet it's hard to climb back in.

[bsasuper]

I think its just the other make brands having a go because Honda make a quality product.

Other brands I've owned:

Kawasaki----ZXR750 blown piston rings(thats gay) at 20,000kms,ZX6 worn out camshafts at 11,000kms (gay)

Yamaha-- fzr600 droped valve at only 200kms (really gay)

Suzuki---gsxr750 blown motor at 6000kms due to wrong head gaskets being fitted at factory (super gay)

[jaffaonajappa]

I think its just the other make brands having a go because KING DONG BUTTPLUGS make a quality product.



I take you you ride a Honda too? or ahem an HD?

Sorry bout that....

[jaffaonajappa]

I think its just the other make brands having a go because Honda make a quality product.

Other brands I've owned:

Kawasaki----ZXR750 blown piston rings(thats gay) at 20,000kms,ZX6 worn out camshafts at 11,000kms (gay)

Yamaha-- fzr600 droped valve at only 200kms (really gay)

Suzuki---gsxr750 blown motor at 6000kms due to wrong head gaskets being fitted at factory (super gay)


So.
Morale of the story is?
Hondas are self lubricating?
Other makes require engine oil before running?

[Flip]

I have been heard saying honda riders are gay from time to time, honda make a quality product and I have a admit its certanly no GAYER than any other gay jap bike. Honda riders on the other hand...... well "I dont see no horns on them".

[sugilite]

I think its just the other make brands having a go because Honda make a quality product.

Other brands I've owned:

Kawasaki----ZXR750 blown piston rings(thats gay) at 20,000kms,)

WTF, that is weird, those motors are legendary strong, I won a championship on one of mine with waaay over 100k on the motor, still on original piston and rings!

[Crasherfromwayback]

I think its just the other make brands having a go because Honda make a quality product.

Other brands I've owned:

Kawasaki----ZXR750 blown piston rings(thats gay) at 20,000kms,ZX6 worn out camshafts at 11,000kms (gay)

Yamaha-- fzr600 droped valve at only 200kms (really gay)

Suzuki---gsxr750 blown motor at 6000kms due to wrong head gaskets being fitted at factory (super gay)

For any one person to have had such 'issues' screams out "Fucking BULLSHIT"

[bsasuper]

So.
Morale of the story is?
Hondas are self lubricating?
Other makes require engine oil before running?

?????????, Here's a tip for someone special like you, when the sign on the door says "push", that means the door opens inwards

[bsasuper]

For any one person to have had such 'issues' screams out "Fucking BULLSHIT"

Hey thats what I said at the time to

[Gremlin]

For any one person to have had such 'issues' screams out "Fucking BULLSHIT"
I dunno... some of us have a natural talent to push a bike where no-one else can. Don't ask me how (coz I don't fucken know) but I've broken stuff on bikes most people haven't (or at least not so quickly by half).

Oh, we're still in this thread. Has OP been given some Honda loving yet?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Hey thats what I said at the time to


I dunno... some of us have a natural talent to push a bike where no-one else can. Don't ask me how (coz I don't fucken know) but I've broken stuff on bikes most people haven't (or at least not so quickly by half).

Oh, we're still in this thread. Has OP been given some Honda loving yet?

Maybe have a look at the way you're riding/maintaining them then. I've raced all sorts of bikes for a long time now...and owned over 50 bikes. But I've fucked very few of them.

[nzspokes]

I think its just the other make brands having a go because Honda make a quality product.

Other brands I've owned:

Kawasaki----ZXR750 blown piston rings(thats gay) at 20,000kms,ZX6 worn out camshafts at 11,000kms (gay)

Yamaha-- fzr600 droped valve at only 200kms (really gay)

Suzuki---gsxr750 blown motor at 6000kms due to wrong head gaskets being fitted at factory (super gay)

Wow, never lend you bike to this guy. :crazy:

[Gremlin]

Maybe have a look at the way you're riding/maintaining them then. I've raced all sorts of bikes for a long time now...and owned over 50 bikes. But I've fucked very few of them.
Just look at my bill for servicing... I pay more to maintain my bike (all dealer done) than some do for multiple bikes.

In the last year on my GSA, it's been a headlamp, a couple of final drive seals, a plastic retainer on the rubber boot on the shaft, sheared a bolt off the hugger (and bracket went bye bye) and probably a couple of other things. On the KTM before that it was two rear subframes, some sheared bolts (including ones on the oil sump) and I dented the front rim twice (spoked wheels now thanks).

Yes... I'm talented. :weep: and I don't ride anything like some of the vids show... I just ride around the country... :ride:

[FJRider]

... I just ride around the country... :ride:

Yes ... but you ride around the WHOLE country ... :facepalm:

[nzspokes]

I just ride around the country... :ride:

But not everybody else does it once a week. :p

[Drew]

I think its just the other make brands having a go because Honda make a quality product.

Other brands I've owned:

Kawasaki----ZXR750 blown piston rings(thats gay) at 20,000kms,ZX6 worn out camshafts at 11,000kms (gay)

Yamaha-- fzr600 droped valve at only 200kms (really gay)

Suzuki---gsxr750 blown motor at 6000kms due to wrong head gaskets being fitted at factory (super gay)That's incredibly bad luck. The ZXR and GSXRs are renowned for being bullet proof.

You should seel your services to bike buyers. If you say "buy it", then it's a lemon and shouldn't be touched with barge poles.

[mossy1200]

I think its just the other make brands having a go because Honda make a quality product.

Other brands I've owned:

Kawasaki----ZXR750 blown piston rings(thats gay) at 20,000kms,ZX6 worn out camshafts at 11,000kms (gay)

Yamaha-- fzr600 droped valve at only 200kms (really gay)

Suzuki---gsxr750 blown motor at 6000kms due to wrong head gaskets being fitted at factory (super gay)

Hondas rev limiter is so ghey it cant be removed.

[Deano]

No one should buy a thou as, just a road bike.

Na, I've just watched them get beaten a lot.

Which Honda and in what class are you referring to here bro?

Honda have mixed it up well in a lot of classes.

But I'm pretty sure they were the first to beat the Euros at IOMTT.

[5150]

I owned over 50 bikes. But I've fucked very few of them.

Were all of them Hondas? ;)

[nzspokes]

Hondas rev limiter is so ghey it cant be removed.

Neither of my Hondas have limiters. :oi-grr:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Were all of them Hondas? ;)

Only about five or six of them. Mostly Kawasakis and Suzukis.

[Dadpole]

Honda have mixed it up well in a lot of classes.

But I'm pretty sure they were the first to beat the Euros at IOMTT.

I hate to tell you this, but... http://thevintagent.blogspot.co.nz/2011/04/1911-indians-sweep-isle-of-man-tt.html

[carbonhed]

Well... gay or not I think I'm going to get me one of these. Probably without ABS this time because I'd rather it was 10Kg lighter TBH. And definitely without variable throttle mapping because there's absolutely nothing gayer than fucking variable throttle maps.

A thing of beauty.

http://ashonbikes.com/sites/default/files/ash_images/articles/111126/Honda_Fireblade12_22.jpg

[5150]

Well... gay or not I think I'm going to get me one of these. Probably without ABS this time because I'd rather it was 10Kg lighter TBH. And definitely without variable throttle mapping because there's absolutely nothing gayer than fucking variable throttle maps.

A thing of beauty.

http://ashonbikes.com/sites/default/files/ash_images/articles/111126/Honda_Fireblade12_22.jpg

I have heard from reliable source that Julian Cleary just orderd one of these...... :psst:

[jasonu]

I have heard from reliable source that Julian Cleary just orderd one of these...... :psst:

Is that Sticky Moments poof still alive??? Hugh Jelly???

[Deano]

I hate to tell you this, but... http://thevintagent.blogspot.co.nz/2011/04/1911-indians-sweep-isle-of-man-tt.html

Maybe I should have said the first of the Jappas to win then. Same difference. LOL

[crystalball]

In shock that bikers wil put another biker down for what they ride. :mad: I have never been put down by another rider, also most bikers wave even had gang members wave ( I always wave 1st) this thread should be deleted.

[steve_t]

In shock that bikers wil put another biker down for what they ride. :mad: I have never been put down by another rider, also most bikers wave even had gang members wave ( I always wave 1st) this thread should be deleted.

You gotta approach this place with an open sense of humour. If you come here thinking everyone is being serious about everything, you're gonna get really pissed off and want every second thread deleted. I'm not sure I've read a single serious post in this thread! It's a nice distraction from having to be serious at work. Actually, the fact that you mention waving makes me wonder if you're the one that's taking the piss :cool:

[mossy1200]

You gotta approach this place with an open sense of humour. If you come here thinking everyone is being serious about everything, you're gonna get really pissed off and want every second thread deleted. I'm not sure I've read a single serious post in this thread! It's a nice distraction from having to be serious at work. Actually, the fact that you mention waving makes me wonder if you're the one that's taking the piss :cool:

Yeah I met some guys that ride hondas and they didnt ask me out.Wait does that meen they wernt ghey or im just not a great catch?

[steve_t]

Yeah I met some guys that ride hondas and they didnt ask me out.Wait does that meen they wernt ghey or im just not a great catch?

How do you know they weren't in a monotonous/monogamous relationship? Oh..... ummmm....
Maybe their gheydar was broken? :dodge:

I'm sure you'd be a great catch for any girl, guy, or animal :killingme

[James Deuce]

In shock that bikers wil put another biker down for what they ride. :mad: I have never been put down by another rider, also most bikers wave even had gang members wave ( I always wave 1st) this thread should be deleted.

Haahahahahahahahaha. OMG, this is the best one EVER!

[mossy1200]

I'm sure you'd be a great catch for any girl, guy, or animal :killingme

How can you be sure?Are You familar in the way of Honda?

[steve_t]

How can you be sure?Are You familar in the way of Honda?

Nah, I can't. I was just trying to be nice. But now that you've called me on it, I have to admit that I have no idea. You could be an awful catch for a guy, girl, or animal. This thread just got awkward :whistle:

[mossy1200]

You delete your posts ill delete mine and nobody talks about Honda Club

[GingerMidget]

I guess once you have come out of the closet it's hard to climb back in.

Pffft nah its easy as!

I've got a couple of people looking for a VTR 250 for me now instead of the dreamed of Monster. Why? because I want something thats gonna be reliable. I want to learn to ride my bike, not fix it. Thats a boys job. Note to self, find one who doesn't annoy me.

[scumdog]

Pffft nah its easy as!

I've got a couple of people looking for a VTR 250 for me now instead of the dreamed of Monster. Why? because I want something thats gonna be reliable. I want to learn to ride my bike, not fix it. Thats a boys job. Note to self, find one who doesn't annoy me.

Are you drunk??

'Boys job' - pfft, wot a fuck-in-dreamer....

[GrayWolf]

Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
which is nothing like an AX100

I reckon it's just cos honda make notable bikes (tall poppy syndrome etc). With the exception of the KR1 and RGV, I'd be struggling to name something from another jappa manufacturer worth remembering, fucking beige IL4 crap, or other shite stamped out by the asses of a thousand slant eyes.


Geeezus Man, get back in the padded closet you've been living in. lets see not notable bikes, not worth remembering shite....

Hmmmm
Kawasaki,
Z1-900, H1-500, H2-750, GPz900 (LC), GPz 1100 air cooled, Z650, 250 Samuri, 350 Avenger, S1,S2 250/350. ZL-900/1000 Eliminator. ZZR1100

Suzuki,
750/1000/1100 Katana, GSX750/850/1100, 250 Hustler, X-7, GT750 (kettle), RE-5, M109, GSX1100EF, GT500 (2T), RG500, RGV250, GS500, GSXR750/1100/1200

Yamaha,
RD-250/350/400. XS1100, FJ-1100/1200, FJR-1300, XS-650, FZ1000 exup, V max, R1, FZR750, Thunderace, LC250/350(rz),
and thats just the older stuff that I have taken note of over the years...


Ok I'll give you that, I did forget about the RGs, the rest are just beige :yawn:

an H1 'beige'? FFS man go ride one, then come back and call it beige!!! The only bikes of 'note' Honda produced then was the original 750-4 sohc, CBX 1000 and CB900. The Gold Wing 1000, wasnt exactly a rip snorter was it? The blackbird may have 'just' edged the ZZR for top speed, but it was at the expense of a soft mid range. And there's another interesting 'point' a ZZR1100 is beige? Honda make good bikes i certainly would'nt dispute that, but mate you seriously need to reconsider what is 'beige' and what isnt....

[ducatilover]

Yeah I met some guys that ride hondas and they didnt ask me out.Wait does that meen they wernt ghey or im just not a great catch?
I've had a few Hondas and I don't think I'd ask you out, unless you pay and cuddle.







an H1 'beige'? FFS man go ride one, then come back and call it beige!!! The only bikes of 'note' Honda produced then was the original 750-4 sohc, CBX 1000 and CB900. The Gold Wing 1000, wasnt exactly a rip snorter was it? The blackbird may have 'just' edged the ZZR for top speed, but it was at the expense of a soft mid range. And there's another interesting 'point' a ZZR1100 is beige? Honda make good bikes i certainly would'nt dispute that, but mate you seriously need to reconsider what is 'beige' and what isnt....
Horses and courses mate, he doesn't like what they make, there it is. You like it, there we go. I like lots of things, and there we are. We all like different things and think different things are beige.
Mind you, I'm not known for my taste :belh:

I could do with a ZZR11.

[_Shrek_]

I have never been put down by another rider, .

:kick: you ride a honda, now you have & wont feel left out :baby:

[GrayWolf]

I've had a few Hondas and I don't think I'd ask you out, unless you pay and cuddle.




I could do with a ZZR11.

I'm selling mine, PM me if you're serious about buying one....

[GrayWolf]

I've had a few Hondas and I don't think I'd ask you out, unless you pay and cuddle.


Horses and courses mate, he doesn't like what they make, there it is. You like it, there we go. I like lots of things, and there we are. We all like different things and think different things are beige.
Mind you, I'm not known for my taste :belh:
.

Agreed but then he quotes the KR and RGV as not beige, so going on the premise they were the 'dogs bollox' for performance in their class at the time? I was quoting bikes that were the same in their time... not that I would have a preference for some of them. I owned an H1, nice memories, they can stay that way!!! RZ350? beige???
Now if you want REAL beige,,, a nice CD250U, the plastic maggot (CX500), the 350-4, cb750 dohc...... As I admitted honda have made some great bikes, but they for many years built good bikes that just didnt 'stand out'.

[ellipsis]

. The Gold Wing 1000, wasnt exactly a rip snorter was it?

...it was at the time...

[5150]

I would say seccond generation CB900F is not exactly a dog. But also a very underated commuter/tourer that can still achieve WARP speed when needed. Bland looking, hmmm yes, maybe. But it is a wheelie monster and gives grin factor 11 when ridden fast on twisty roads

[GrayWolf]

. The Gold Wing 1000, wasnt exactly a rip snorter was it?

...it was at the time...
H2 was quicker, Z1, Z1000 were faster, the XSessive 750 wasnt far behind it, my H1 was errrrrr hehehehe!!!!! The Wing was/is the undisputed king of distances, noone can find any valid reason to dispute that fact.


I would say seccond generation CB900F is not exactly a dog. But also a very understated commuter/tourer that can still achieve WARP speed when needed. Bland looking, hmmm yes, maybe. But it is a wheelie monster and gives grin factor 11 when ridden fast on twisty roads

I did quote the CB900 as a notable bike, remember the buggers well. Would even agree it handled better than the Exessive 1100, but the Yam has to win on the engine alone. The CBX was a tour de force, but remember Benelli also produced a 6 cyl at the time, just not a 1000cc and wasn't a notable bike, except for typical Italian behavior of the period. However the little Benelli 250 quattro?? now that was one PRETTY and out there bike for styling.

[ducatilover]

I'm selling mine, PM me if you're serious about buying one....
I'm broke mate, otherwise I'd be all over that like Sheen on coke.
I have a mate who has been making noises about buying a new bike though, can mention it to him?



the plastic maggot (CX500)
I have to admit, I am a sick man and want a CX :wacko:

[Coldrider]

When I was a schoolboy I had a tee shirt, HONDA, UP UP and AWAY. Wasn't till later I knew what it meant. :eek5:

[Stylo]

I've got a CR500 and I don't get much Jip about that ...in fact quite the opposite :drool:

[DMNTD]

For you? I'll take. I hear you're a rabid lover :love:

He love rabbits...longtime

[puddytat]

I ride a honda at the mo....and i dont like to come out of my closet cause its got all my toys in it....as well as a fake back wall that leads to even more closets:drool:

[Mooch]

No one has mentioned RC30 yet . This is one Honda has always had my respect. Other than that , The brand also makes Jazz's and Civics . These do nothing for the image regardless of the Sir's

[jaffaonajappa]

No one has mentioned RC30 yet . This is one Honda has always had my respect. Other than that , The brand also makes Jazz's and Civics . These do nothing for the image regardless of the Sir's

Agreed. RC30 is primo. And yes it has been mentioned already...

[Big Dave]

Actually, Honda makes some excellent motorcycles.
But WTF do I know - I've only ridden them. :banana:

[steve_t]

Actually, Honda makes some excellent motorcycles.
But WTF do I know - I've only ridden them. :banana:

Please stay on topic :Pokey:

[Big Dave]

Oh I larfed.

[numbersixteen16]

No one has mentioned RC30 yet . This is one Honda has always had my respect. Other than that , The brand also makes Jazz's and Civics . These do nothing for the image regardless of the Sir's

Dont know about a Jazz, but a type r civic is an awesome car (in my opinion). They can handle shit loads more power than they were designed for, and make an excellent track car. They are sort of like the Skylines and Supras in that aspect - built to be any car that you want to build

[Gremlin]

In shock that bikers wil put another biker down for what they ride. :mad:
And what did I say?? Here's another poof riding a honda... :no:

[jaffaonajappa]

And what did I say?? Here's another poof riding a honda... :no:

Hey, thats not nice. Go easy on the Honda riders.....some of them are in Shock.

[Gremlin]

Hey, thats not nice. Go easy on the Honda riders.....some of them are in Shock.
What sort of shock? :shifty:

http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e184/Cob450/SurpriseButtsecks.jpg

[5150]

What sort of shock? :shifty:



Hopefully Ohlins :love:

[bsasuper]

Heres a good point, most of the other brands top sports bikes have traction control, different maps etc, all in an effort to get power to the ground, which would make one wonder whats the problem with the peaky motors they are making?, Yet honda have none of these silly things, except ABS(optional), whats the point of having a motor with XXXHP if you cant use it?.My next bike will be a 2012 CBR1000rr

[Crasherfromwayback]

Heres a good point, most of the other brands top sports bikes have traction control, different maps etc, all in an effort to get power to the ground, which would make one wonder whats the problem with the peaky motors they are making?, Yet honda have none of these silly things, except ABS(optional), whats the point of having a motor with XXXHP if you cant use it?.My next bike will be a 2012 CBR1000rr

You obviously live under a mushroom. Honda have one of the worst ever rider 'aids' on most of their big road bikes.

Linked braking. And it IS fucking GAY.

[cheshirecat]

RE CBX1000 and GL1000. I had (pardon the word) both of those bikes once and the GL was not to be underestimated. Bought it second hand from two gay Scotish dentists, Ben Doon and Phil McCavity. Used the Wing London commuting and it was pretty good for prising open cracks in traffic (oops). It was great cross country and could keep a pretty good average up. (up what I dont know)

[5150]

You obviously live under a mushroom. Honda have one of the worst ever rider 'aids' on most of their big road bikes.

Linked braking. And it IS fucking GAY.

Isin't that only on big cruiser/tourer models?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Isin't that only on big cruiser/tourer models?

CBR1100 Blackbird and VFR800 for starters.

[cheshirecat]

Actually this motorcycle/car hybrid (http://litmotors.com/c1/human-centered-design/) has some interesting sexual possibilities - check out the interior seating graphics re "even enough room in this device for a friend to ride in the back for short city excursions"

[AllanB]

Heres a good point, most of the other brands top sports bikes have traction control, different maps etc, all in an effort to get power to the ground, which would make one wonder whats the problem with the peaky motors they are making?, Yet honda have none of these silly things, except ABS(optional), whats the point of having a motor with XXXHP if you cant use it?.My next bike will be a 2012 CBR1000rr

I'd have to say I'm agreeing with their 012 CBR philosophy - improve and refine the bike so it is the best riders bike out there instead of just governing everything with electronics. The 2010 model I took for a spin was awsome.

Maybe that's the guts of the ghey thing by other riders - they are bitterly aware that Honda riders have superior abilities and have to slag it off!

[bsasuper]

You obviously live under a mushroom. Honda have one of the worst ever rider 'aids' on most of their big road bikes.

Linked braking. And it IS fucking GAY.

I dont think the cbr1000rr(2012) has this?, No I dont live under a mushroom, I live in a big shed full of motorcycles, some of them start with RCXX, which are just awsome race breed bikes, I also have the race bikes from other brands, but they are worth nothing compaired to the RC's.Sounds like you have not ridden the touring range with the linked braking, It works:yes:.If you ride these bikes like a race bikes , NO it is a pain, but it works for what it is designed to do.Sounds like you are need more riding experience, and not just reading magazine's.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I dont think the cbr1000rr(2012) has this?, No I dont live under a mushroom, I live in a big shed full of motorcycles, some of them start with RCXX, which are just awsome race breed bikes, I also have the race bikes from other brands, but they are worth nothing compaired to the RC's.Sounds like you have not ridden the touring range with the linked braking, It works:yes:.If you ride these bikes like a race bikes like a sports bike, NO it is a pain, but it works for what it is designed to do.

No. But they are avail with ABS no? Any RC30/45 is horn. I've owned and raced an RS250...that too was horn.

I've ridden plenty of bikes with linked brakes, and they all sucked arse.

[steve_t]

No. But they are avail with ABS no? Any RC30/45 is horn. I've owned and raced an RS250...that too was horn.

I've ridden plenty of bikes with linked brakes, and they all sucked arse.

I wonder if you'll think the 1199 Panigale will suck arse. Besides 'Race' mode, it has linked brakes. :corn:

[bsasuper]

No. But they are avail with ABS no? Any RC30/45 is horn. I've owned and raced an RS250...that too was horn.

I've ridden plenty of bikes with linked brakes, and they all sucked arse.

Yes if you read again, ABS is an option as I said, but I wont be getting this option when I order a CBR1000rr 2012.

[Crasherfromwayback]

I wonder if you'll think the 1199 Panigale will suck arse. Besides 'Race' mode, it has linked brakes. :corn:

Any bike that puts a front caliper on when you dab the rear brake at low speed (like riding a bike through traffic or a showroom) sucks arse.


Yes if you read again, ABS is an option as I said, but I wont be getting this option when I order a CBR1000rr 2012.

I'm with you on ABS too. Not on my bikes thanks.

[ducatilover]

CBR1100 Blackbird and VFR800 for starters.
I'm keen to try it out, I really like the VFR800 and I'm not a fast rider, so maybe it won't piss me off so much?

[steve_t]

Any bike that puts a front caliper on when you dab the rear brake at low speed (like riding a bike through traffic or a showroom) sucks arse.



Oh, is that how it works? I thought it was just that the rear brake was linked to the front brake lever. I didn't know the rear brake pedal engaged the front brake - that really is retarded :blink:

[Drew]

I wonder if you'll think the 1199 Panigale will suck arse. Besides 'Race' mode, it has linked brakes. :corn:

Fuck sakes, Ducati finally get something right and put a wet clutch on their bike. But fuck it up and use a frame system proven to be shithouse by Stoner and Rossi both, and then they link the brakes!

I really can't understand the following Ducati have at all. They don't make a superior machine for the road anymore (someone please argue that the Desmocidici was superior, I'll direct you to guy who rode on e on a track, and said it's a slow steering, underwhelming experience), and charge twice as much in some cases for it.

I'm amending my perception of gay, Honda and Ducati meet the requirements.

[Kickaha]

Fuck sakes, Ducati finally get something right and put a wet clutch on their bike. But fuck it up and use a frame system proven to be shithouse by Stoner and Rossi both, and then they link the brakes!
Only bike I have ridden with linked brakes was a MotoGuzzi, once you get your head around then they work very well and I'd imagine with another 20+ years of technology they could work even better


I'm amending my perception of gay, Honda and Ducati meet the requirements. So do you

[steve_t]

Fuck sakes, Ducati finally get something right and put a wet clutch on their bike. But fuck it up and use a frame system proven to be shithouse by Stoner and Rossi both, and then they link the brakes!

I really can't understand the following Ducati have at all. They don't make a superior machine for the road anymore (someone please argue that the Desmocidici was superior, I'll direct you to guy who rode on e on a track, and said it's a slow steering, underwhelming experience), and charge twice as much in some cases for it.

I'm amending my perception of gay, Honda and Ducati meet the requirements.

Yeah, as I said, when you put it in Race mode, the brakes aren't linked. I guess it's to cater to the masses riding on the street with the option of turning it off for track racing. Options are good

[Drew]

Yeah, as I said, when you put it in Race mode, the brakes aren't linked. I guess it's to cater to the masses riding on the street with the option of turning it off for track racing. Options are goodI wonder how it's controlled. Has the potential to fuck out if it turns itself on and off, and lets face it, electrickery is not the strongest suit Ducati has to play.

[avgas]

No one should buy a thou as, just a road bike.
I used mine as a penis extension. It worked great except during intercourse.

[AllanB]

Some of the F800 BMW's had issues with the anti-lock brakes - sometimes it worked, some times not! No doubt a computer issue!

[Robert Taylor]

I dont understand it, no bike Ive ever owned has been better than the Hondas Ive had.
Yet there is about 30% of motorsport enthusiasts hating them, when I ask why, their reply is "cos they're gay"? Or they look at me blankly for a few seconds trying to spit something out.

While I was looking for my road bike, I mentioned to one seller that I really was looking for a cbr (got an fzr instead because of cheaper price), his reply - Dont get a Honda, theyre pieces of shit. I laughed at him (in my head) and decided that theres no point buying a bike off someone who doesnt know motorcycles.

Both Honda bikes and cars prove to have amazing build quality, and are extremely reliable, as well as being some of the quickest things out there.

I may have missed a joke or something a few years back? Someone care to explain..

There is no doubt that Honda has had over the years some pretty clever engineering and they are a pretty solid company. But I think their often self propagated reputation for being the most reliable bike on the planet can at times be a little over-justified. ''Hondas are very reliable'', just go and ask your nearest Honda dealer!
They have indeed over the years made some very reliable bikes but at times they have had their share of lemons, as does every brand.
In the first half of the 80s I worked for a large multi franchise dealer in London. During that period we had hundreds of CX500s to contend with ( premature cam chain and follower failure plus a modicum of other stupid things ) and also every VF750FD returned to their dealers for camshafts, followers, tensioner and cam chains almost as often as they needed oil filters.
Contrary to that I owned in succession 2 Honda CB250RSA's to commute across London to work and had a flawless run from them, as did many London despatch riders who purchased these as a preferred tool of trade.
In the automotive world arguably the two most reliable cars are Honda and Toyota ( who have many of their engine components made by Yamaha Motor Co )

[R1madness]

I think its because back in the 80s honda ran an advertising campein that was all about "you meet the nicest people on a HONDA". That was actually their campeign slogan and it has stuck but in the wrong way... back then biking was seen as antisocial and honda was trying to make it more mainstream, but in stead they alianated themselves from a large segment of the biking community... kind of like when the queenstown rally ran a TV ad saying "put your kids in the car and come along for a real family weekend..." some things just backfire...

[James Deuce]

I think its because back in the 80s honda ran an advertising campein that was all about "you meet the nicest people on a HONDA". That was actually their campeign slogan and it has stuck but in the wrong way... back then biking was seen as antisocial and honda was trying to make it more mainstream, but in stead they alianated themselves from a large segment of the biking community... kind of like when the queenstown rally ran a TV ad saying "put your kids in the car and come along for a real family weekend..." some things just backfire...

It was in the '60s that they ran that campaign. The short lived '80s reboot blew a reg/rec twice in 10,000kms and then the cam chain tensioner sheared off and lunched the big-end, while the cams, devoid of oil, grew more pits than Angelina Jolie.

[SMOKEU]

I'd like to see if any of you ABS haters can outbrake a CBR1000RR ABS on a non ABS bike. Try it on a slippery surface as well.

[FJRider]

I'd like to see if any of you ABS haters can outbrake a CBR1000RR ABS on a non ABS bike. Try it on a slippery surface as well.

I may be wrong ... (often am) The Superbike racers don't have ABS. They stop pretty quickly At consistantly higher speeds and in the wet too). I think it's more to do with rider skill/ability ... not the equipment aids the bike is fitted with.

[SMOKEU]

I may be wrong ... (often am) The Superbike racers don't have ABS. They stop pretty quickly At consistantly higher speeds and in the wet too). I think it's more to do with rider skill/ability ... not the equipment aids the bike is fitted with.

True, but how many road riders have that level of skill?

Braking hard on a race track is a lot different than panic braking at 100kmh on a bad surface when a cager cuts you off.

[FJRider]

True, but how many road riders have that level of skill?

Braking hard on a race track is a lot different than panic braking at 100kmh on a bad surface when a cager cuts you off.

For ANY motorcyclist ... emergency braking is the most important thing to learn. Few take the time to learn it on their bike .... At the speeds and conditions they travel at/in .... Whatever speeds that may be. If it's a bad road surface ... perhaps 100 kms/hr is too fast for the conditions, and is asking for trouble anyway.

If you KNOW you haven't the ability to stop fast ... why go fast.

[pritch]

The ABS haters are just going to be shit outa luck, because it will shortly be compulsory. The Euroo legislators are beavering away on that very thing as we speak. (So to speak.) :whistle:
For a one-off "panic" stop ABS can't be beat. Some riders can stop faster after a couple of warm-ups, but in real life you don't get warm-ups.

I've never had it on a bike because it wasn't available on anything I've owned. I certainly wouldn't be upset if my next bike had it.

[SMOKEU]

For ANY motorcyclist ... emergency braking is the most important thing to learn. Few take the time to learn it on their bike .... At the speeds and conditions they travel at/in .... Whatever speeds that may be. If it's a bad road surface ... perhaps 100 kms/hr is too fast for the conditions, and is asking for trouble anyway.

If you KNOW you haven't the ability to stop fast ... why go fast.

I can't stop fast. Hard braking is something I've never been confident at, and I have managed to lock the front wheel twice on my old CBR250 so that has sort of put me off. I'm going for a rider training day at Ruapuna at the end of this month so it's something I'll have to learn. I've got good tires and powerful brakes on the gixxer so I've been told it's more likely to do a stoppie than lock the front on a good surface unless I snatch the front brake too quickly.

[steve_t]

I've never had it on a bike because it wasn't available on anything I've owned. I certainly wouldn't be upset if my next bike had it.

+1 to that :yes:

[FJRider]

I can't stop fast. Hard braking is something I've never been confident at, and I have managed to lock the front wheel twice on my old CBR250 so that has sort of put me off. I'm going for a rider training day at Ruapuna at the end of this month so it's something I'll have to learn. I've got good tires and powerful brakes on the gixxer so I've been told it's more likely to do a stoppie than lock the front on a good surface unless I snatch the front brake too quickly.

On a free day ... find a deserted long level (straight is good) road. And repeated practice, with slightly, ever increasing "vigour" .... on each stop. Pre-marked "stop points" with dazzle will help judge stopping distances (after you've practiced a bit) Try a measured stop at 50 and 100 kms first ... to check inprovement later. You may supprise yourself.

Warning ... don't try the higher speeds (above 50 kms) untill you can stop well under control at lower speeds. Enthusiasm to try may be your (down)fall

A full afternoon is not "wasted" ... nor out of the question. Practice on bad tyres will help when you really DO need to stop ...

Time spent will be repaid ... with an extended life. (yours)

[Drew]

I'd like to see if any of you ABS haters can outbrake a CBR1000RR ABS on a non ABS bike. Try it on a slippery surface as well.A brake applied with constant force, stops faster than one that releases and grabs repeatedly. ABS is an idiot proofing, and I'll take your challenge in any conditions.


The ABS haters are just going to be shit outa luck, because it will shortly be compulsory. The Euroo legislators are beavering away on that very thing as we speak. (So to speak.) :whistle:
For a one-off "panic" stop ABS can't be beat. Some riders can stop faster after a couple of warm-ups, but in real life you don't get warm-ups.

I've never had it on a bike because it wasn't available on anything I've owned. I certainly wouldn't be upset if my next bike had it.They can make it compulsory if they like. I'll find a way to disconnect it. In fact, I bet there will be factory kits available to disable it for racing anyway.

It's really quite simple to stop quickly, Douglas Adams titled a good book, "DON'T PANIC".

ABS is not full proof, it has it's draw backs, and the more people that come to rely on such aids to their vehicle control, the less safe we will all be if they find themselves without for whatever reason.

[Kickaha]

Douglas Adams titled a good book, "DON'T PANIC".
None of his books had that title

My money with average riders on both bikes is on the ABS equipped bike

[Voltaire]

None of his books had that title

My money with average riders on both bikes is on the ABS equipped bike


What are you doing wasting time on the internet...that bloody BSA ain't going to fix itself...:bash:...(.suppose its better than looking at BSA porn sites...)

[Fast Eddie]

What are you doing wasting time on the internet...that bloody BSA ain't going to fix itself...:bash:...(.suppose its better than looking at BSA porn sites...)


haha I recon, back to the shed kickaha. get that mint old bsa out for some hard braking

[Gremlin]

A brake applied with constant force, stops faster than one that releases and grabs repeatedly. ABS is an idiot proofing, and I'll take your challenge in any conditions.
Talking average riders, average conditions, they have done the tests already, ABS vs non-ABS. Even used racers as the riders as well. What you're saying, re ABS not braking at certain points is correct, however, the tests have shown ABS wins in almost all tests, except for very good conditions. You MAY differ, but you'd be the exception, not the norm.

The GS Adventure comes equipped with linked braking and ABS, I like having them. I've never used them for panic stops, I've had both ends of the ABS activated (normally on gravel), but the rear does activate reasonably easily when unloading it and then braking. Linked braking was very handy when I came off snapping off the front brake lever and I rode the bike back to Auckland from Oamaru with only the rear brake pedal.

As pritch said, it looks like ABS is going to become mandatory and non-switchable (I can turn it off on the BMW if I wish). Once it's mandatory somewhere, we'll end up with it as part of global manufacturing... I don't agree with having it permanently on... but they think we're safer for it...