Ticket cost for riding with rego on hold?

[rossirep]

hi im just wondeing what is the cost if you get pulled over and you have put your bike reg on hold, is the ticket the same price as a no reg ticket.. somewhere around the $200 mark... cheers,

[FJRider]

hi im just wondeing what is the cost if you get pulled over and you have put your bike reg on hold, is the ticket the same price as a no reg ticket.. somewhere around the $200 mark... cheers,

$200 fines will be levied by parking wardens, but police can issue a reduced $150 fine plus 20 demerit points if the vehicle is unregistered or the licence is on hold. If caught again, you must surrender your plates.

[hayd3n]

$150 and 35 demerits now i believe

[hellokitty]

More important - your insurance won't be valid if the bike is not registered. Even if someone else hits you, you will be liable for damage as you are illegally on the road :pinch:

[Owl]

Even if someone else hits you, you will be liable for damage as you are illegally on the road :pinch:

Don't think so!:no:

[trustme]

More important - your insurance won't be valid if the bike is not registered. Even if someone else hits you, you will be liable for damage as you are illegally on the road :pinch:

I always understood that the insurance industry regarded rego as a govt tax issue, as long as the bike had a wof it was insured . Mind you it is hard to get a wof on an unregoed bike.

[oneofsix]

I always understood that the insurance industry regarded rego as a govt tax issue, as long as the bike had a wof it was insured . Mind you it is hard to get a wof on an unregoed bike.

:no: Other way round. It is hard to get a rego (impossible) on an unwarranted bike. Law is you must have current WOF before you can get Reg.

[shrub]

$200 fines will be levied by parking wardens, but police can issue a reduced $150 fine plus 20 demerit points if the vehicle is unregistered or the licence is on hold. If caught again, you must surrender your plates.

That's a good heads up. My rego is on hold but I ride every day, so if/when I get pinged I'll pay my $150 and stick some rego on. My original plan was to leave it unregistered indefinitely and treat tickets as discounted rego. So far I have had rego on hold since Sept, so in my calculations I have saved around $300.00 and even if I get pinged this morning I'm still ahead.

My experience is that cops have only ever pulled me up when I have been doing something they don't like, so if I play by the rules I'll be fine.

[oneofsix]

My experience is that cops have only ever pulled me up when I have been doing something they don't like, so if I play by the rules I'll be fine.

Until you get caught in one of their spot checks or by one of the new fancy smart camera thingees. Good luck.

[Swoop]

More important - your insurance won't be valid if the bike is not registered. Even if someone else hits you, you will be liable for damage as you are illegally on the road :pinch:
Unfortunately this is not true.

I phoned my insurer and spoke with the boss. His exact words were "DON'T pay it! You are covered as long as you have a current WoF".

It is merely a tax and does not contribute to the safety of the bike.

[Macontour]

My experience is that cops have only ever pulled me up when I have been doing something they don't like, so if I play by the rules I'll be fine.[/QUOTE]

You may play by the rules but you could also get pinged by a parking Nazi while parked at the side of the road!

[sleemanj]

More important - your insurance won't be valid if the bike is not registered. Even if someone else hits you, you will be liable for damage as you are illegally on the road :pinch:

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6dQmOoPVq1A/Tnycch38LcI/AAAAAAAAFvE/h1fRlQZtsVA/s1600/NotThisShitAgain.jpg

Insurance Law Reform Act 1977, Section 11

The absence or presence of a current vehicle licence (rego), or Warrant of Fitness, does NOT in general affect ones insurance. BY LAW. Doesn't matter what your contract says (and it won't say different anyway) because you can not contract out by law.

You can have a WOF and be denied insurance claim because you drove on bald tyres, you can not have a WOF and be granted insurance claim because somebody ran into the side you, in either case, the having or not having of a WOF makes no difference.

Same goes, even more so, for a current vehicle licence (rego) which has no bearing on the risk to the insurer in respect of the claim.

[sil3nt]

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Insurance Law Reform Act 1977, Section 11

The absence or presence of a current vehicle licence (rego), or Warrant of Fitness, does NOT in general affect ones insurance. BY LAW. Doesn't matter what your contract says (and it won't say different anyway) because you can not contract out by law.

You can have a WOF and be denied insurance claim because you drove on bald tyres, you can not have a WOF and be granted insurance claim because somebody ran into the side you, in either case, the having or not having of a WOF makes no difference.

Same goes, even more so, for a current vehicle licence (rego) which has no bearing on the risk to the insurer in respect of the claim.I don't see why this is so hard for people to understand. I swear it gets explained on here twice a week.

[shrub]

Until you get caught in one of their spot checks or by one of the new fancy smart camera thingees. Good luck.

Yeah, that and the parking nazis are a potential problem, but so far so good and at this stage I don't think they have the camera jobbies down here, and the last time I got pulled up at a spot check they were only interested in piss. My run will end, and when that happens I'll have to cough, but fingers crossed it will be a while yet.

Ironically I have slowed down a lot since I put my rego on hold, so in a roundabout way I am a more law abiding rider.

[pritch]

That's a good heads up. My rego is on hold but I ride every day,

I found this interesting.

Since the bike spent most of last winter in the shed unused, I thought I would put the rego on hold this winter.

Belatedly the thought occurred that I'm shortly switching to part time work, so every weekend will be a long weekend. Maybe on that basis I could get out a bit more this winter.

Then I saw your comment, another option. Not sure if I could do the law abiding riding thing well enough though.:whistle:

[jellywrestler]

Mind you it is hard to get a wof on an unregoed bike. what? that's the easy part you can't get rego till it's warranted

[shrub]

I found this interesting.

Since the bike spent most of last winter in the shed unused, I thought I would put the rego on hold this winter.

Belatedly the thought occurred that I'm shortly switching to part time work, so every weekend will be a long weekend. Maybe on that basis I could get out a bit more this winter.

Then I saw your comment, another option. Not sure if I could do the law abiding riding thing well enough though.:whistle:

It comes down to where you ride at speeds popo would find distressing - every speeding ticket I have ever had has either been on the outskirts of a country town just as you hit the 50 kmh part, or on a major highway, mostly on SH1. Most of the people popo tickets are citizens in cages, so he likes to lurk where it's easy for Mr Citizen to speed - straights, passing lanes, at the beginning of 50kmh stretches and at the bottom of hills.

[pritch]

Most of the people popo tickets are citizens in cages, so he likes to lurk where it's easy for Mr Citizen to speed - straights, passing lanes, at the beginning of 50kmh stretches and at the bottom of hills.

Even in the event that I was riding with no actual intention of speeding, and that does happen, it is the velocities that one attains while overtaking that are of concern.

[hellokitty]

Don't think so!:no:

Oh well, the cop that told me that was wrong then.....

[shrub]

Even in the event that I was riding with no actual intention of speeding, and that does happen, it is the velocities that one attains while overtaking that are of concern.

that's the ridiculous thing. Personally I reckon that being on the wrong side of the road is a hell of a lot more dangerous than doing 110 kmh, so I would rather get back in my lane as fast as possible. Which is illegal.

[Renegade]

. As for demerit points I thought they were issued for "Unsafe" behaviour not non safety issues.

and thats the rub, it used to be exactly that, issued for unsafe behaviour not tax issues but since the rego hike and lack of payment they realised they can punish for no rego by taking your licence via demerits, its just so wrong :brick:

[scumdog]

and thats the rub, it used to be exactly that, issued for unsafe behaviour not tax issues but since the rego hike and lack of payment they realised they can punish for no rego by taking your licence via demerits, its just so wrong :brick:

Probably 'cos so many abused the system....

[_Shrek_]

Demrits coppied off the net

Exceeding the speed limit fixed by not more than 10 km/h. 10

Exceeding the speed limit by more than 10 km/h but not more than 20 km/h 20

Exceeding the speed limit by more than 20 km/h but not more than 30 km/h 35

Exceeding the speed limit by more than 30 km/h but not more than 35 km/h 40

Exceeding the speed limit by more than 35 km/h 50

Using in a motor vehicle equipment that interferes with operation of speed measuring device 25

Possessing in a motor vehicle equipment that is designed to interfere with operation of speed measuring device 25

Exceed speed for stopping distance 20

Exceed speed for stopping distance on road not marked in lanes 20

Driver uses mobile phone while driving a vehicle 20

Drives motor vehicle contrary to the GDLS conditions of his or her driver licence (excluding the requirement to display L plates) 35

Failure to display L plate as required 25

Drives a motor vehicle contrary to the non-GDLS conditions of his or her driver licence 25

Operating unregistered motor vehicle by driving or using it on road in contravention of section 242(1) of the Land Transport Act 1998 20

Operating unlicensed motor vehicle by driving or using it on road in contravention of section 242(1) of the Land Transport Act 1998 15

Operating motor vehicle on road without plates affixed 20

Using trade plate when not eligible 20

Operating motor vehicle displaying plates or licence not authorised for that motor vehicle 25

Operating motor vehicle displaying object or design likely to be mistaken for plates or licence authorised for that motor vehicle 25

Operating motor vehicle with plates or licence that is wholly or partially obscured or not easily distinguishable 25

Operating motor vehicle with temporary exemption granted under regulation 20 of the Land Transport (Motor Vehicle Registration and Licensing) Regulations 2011 20

Failure to operate a motor vehicle with an exhaust system that complies with relevant noise output standards 25

Operate vehicle that creates excessive noise 25

Create excessive noise within or on vehicle 25

Failure or refusal to remain for evidential breath test or blood test 50

Person younger than 20 driving or attempting to drive with excessive breath alcohol or blood alcohol concentration 50

Failure or refusal to wait for the result of a breath screening test or an evidential breath test 50

Failure to stop on request or signal of an enforcement officer, or on being followed by motor vehicle displaying flashing blue, or blue and red, lights or sounding a siren 35

Failure to remain stopped for an enforcement officer 35

Driving or attempting to drive when forbidden by an enforcement officer 35

Failure or refusal to accompany an enforcement officer when so required 50

Person produces logbook with 1–5 omissions 10

Person produces logbook with 6–10 omissions 20

Person produces logbook with 11 or more omissions 30

Person fails to produce logbook 35

Requirement to produce approved alternative record to an enforcement officer on demand 35

Vehicle recovery service vehicles (requirement to complete and retain tow authorities) 35

Requirement on driver or contractor working within an alternative fatigue management scheme to keep records 35

Taxi driver must not accept hire in specified area unless taxi is fitted with an in-vehicle security camera system that is operating 20

Taxi driver must not accept hire in specified area unless taxi is fitted with an in-vehicle security camera system that has an unobscured view of the interior 20

Drive or ride all terrain vehicle, motorcycle, or moped without securely fastened approved helmet 25

Drive or ride all terrain vehicle, motorcycle, or moped with damaged, etc, safety helmet 25

Driver fails to give way at pedestrian crossing 35

Driver enters pedestrian crossing when passage blocked 35

Driver of vehicle fails to give way to pedestrian on shared zone 35

Fail to comply with school patrol sign 20

Passing at school crossing point or pedestrian crossing 20

Driver fails to give way to rail vehicle approaching level crossing 20

Drive etc, cycle, vehicle, or animal across level crossing when risk of collision with rail vehicle 20

Fail to comply with stop sign at level crossing 20

Fail to remain stationary at stop sign until level crossing clear 20

Driver enters controlled area of level crossing when red signal displayed 20

Driver enters controlled area of level crossing when barrier arm lowered 20

Fail to drive as near as practicable to the left of the roadway 20

Fail to allow impeded traffic to pass 20

Unsafe passing 35

Impeding vehicle when passing 35

Passing to right of no-passing line 35

Drive in emergency stopping lane 10

Fail to comply with handheld stop sign 20

Driver fails to stop at stop sign 20

Driver fails to give way at stop sign 20

Driver fails to give way at give-way sign 20

Driver fails to give way at give-way sign controlling a one-way section of road 25

Driver of vehicle changing lanes or turning fails to give way to vehicle not changing lanes or turning 20

Driver of left-turning vehicle fails to give way to an approaching right-turning vehicle 20

Driver at intersection fails to give way to vehicle approaching from right 20

Driver fails to give way to road user on footpath when entering/exiting driveway 20

Driver entering roundabout fails to give way 20

Drive too close to vehicle in front 20

Driver permits riding dangerously 20

Careless or inconsiderate use of motor vehicle 35

[YellowDog]

I got stopped by a cop car, whilst riding rural roads, at 05:30am on a Saturday morning.

Not sure the risks are worth it, 'cos once they know you're a dodger :no:

[scumdog]

I got stopped by a cop car, whilst riding rural roads, at 05:30am on a Saturday morning.

Not sure the risks are worth it, 'cos once they know you're a dodger :no:

Oh no, who would have thought it?????

[hellokitty]

Just register the bike.....
A guy I know, rides a motorbike with no bike license, his car license has been suspended for DIC and he has no rego, he speeds and runs from the cops - one of life's winners.
And he wonders why I won't ride with him....:facepalm:

[oneofsix]

Demrits coppied off the net

Using in a motor vehicle equipment that interferes with operation of speed measuring device 25

Possessing in a motor vehicle equipment that is designed to interfere with operation of speed measuring device 25


To be a smart arse does "in a motor vehicle" mean that motorcyclist can't be done for those 25 demerits? I guess if it was mounted under the fairing you would still be liable. Bet you if they reworded it they would make it even more complicated instead of just deleting the "in a", you can see I have much faith in politicians. :shutup:

So 50 demerits if you have something that actively interferes with the revenue collecting road hazard, the same as "Exceeding the speed limit by more than 35 km/h", the highest one listed. interesting revenue protection racket.
:jerry:

[davereid]

and thats the rub, it used to be exactly that, issued for unsafe behaviour not tax issues but since the rego hike and lack of payment they realised they can punish for no rego by taking your licence via demerits, its just so wrong :brick:

The aussies take your licence if you don't pay fines as well.

And everything the aussies do our lads have to follow.

http://nz.finance.yahoo.com/news/New-crackdown-fine-dodgers-businessdeskwp-1638790383.html?x=0

[sinfull]

Just register the bike.....
A guy I know, rides a motorbike with no bike license, his car license has been suspended for DIC and he has no rego, he speeds and runs from the cops - one of life's winners.
And he wonders why I won't ride with him....:facepalm:
He runs because he is a disqualified rider/driver !
A DIC takes all driving/riding privileges off a person ! So he would be facing another 6 month disqual on top of what he has or jail if he's a recidivist offender !

[hellokitty]

He runs because he is a disqualified rider/driver !
A DIC takes all driving/riding privileges off a person ! So he would be facing another 6 month disqual on top of what he has or jail if he's a recidivist offender !

He is a repeat offender.... perhaps he should just do the time with no license and then stop drinking and driving? I bet that hasn't occured to him...
There is no excuse for drinking and driving/riding.

[oneofsix]

He is a repeat offender.... perhaps he should just do the time with no license and then stop drinking and driving? I bet that hasn't occured to him...
There is no excuse for drinking and driving/riding.

But, sadly, he goes to show there is a hard core of idiots that even disqualification will not stop. There will also be some of his mates that, at least passively, encourage him. :brick:
At least hellokitty doesn't so good on you :2thumbsup

[sinfull]

He is a repeat offender.... perhaps he should just do the time with no license and then stop drinking and driving? I bet that hasn't occured to him...
There is no excuse for drinking and driving/riding.
You're right there aint ! And i don't make any lol but then again i'm pretty good ant not doing it !

But the way the laws have been changed in the demerit system, it looks to me that they have given police the ability to take someones licenc with one ticket, as one of six described !

Gets to the point where boy racer laws are nailing old farts too ! How long before we see runners because the driver/rider, while being legal and licenced, knows that if they stop they're gonna be walkling for 3 months !

[Swoop]

Fail to allow impeded traffic to pass 20.


So, the police are able to have a campaign focussing on "failure to keep left unless passing".
Imagine what chaos that would cause among the populus.

[_Shrek_]

Fail to allow impeded traffic to pass 20.


So, the police are able to have a campaign focussing on "failure to keep left unless passing".
Imagine what chaos that would cause among the populus.

have had this happen, & in my best engrish pointed out that in the road code it says where the :ride: should be!!! & that maybe he should read said road code before pulling :innocent: people like me over :rolleyes:

[YellowDog]

Oh no, who would have thought it?????

Well actually, Mr Cop Car man was a jolly fine fellow indeed. If my bike had been stolen overnight and the CUUNT who took it was stopped by said Mr Cop Car man - I'd be a happy bunny :yes: