Tt2000

[Jdogg]

Title: Tasman Police will actively target dangerous behaviour by motorcycle
racers

Tasman District Police have condemned the organisers of the TT2000 South
Island motorcycle rally being held this weekend saying the event promotes
dangerous riding.

Tasman District Road Policing Manager Inspector Jenni Richardson said the
rally challenged riders to visit 150 locations across the entire South Island
in just 48 hours. In doing so they were expected to cover at least 2000 kms.

Inspector Richardson said, while the event's organisers had covered their own
liability by insisting on licensed riders and legal bikes, and by giving
advice on speed and fatigue, there was no hiding the fact that the event was
essentially a race.

"This event promotes everything we're against in Road Policing. Riders are
encouraged to cover extreme distances on winding and remote roads over one
weekend. I have no doubt that there will be extremely fatigued riders
travelling at excessive speeds all over the South Island."

Inspector Richardson said a rider taking part in the event two years ago was
killed in Golden Downs, near Nelson.

"It's really disappointing to me that there are people actively promoting
extremely unsafe behaviour on public roads.

"My message to all those taking part is when they enter Tasman District,
which covers all of Marlborough, Nelson Bays and the West Coast, they are
highly likely to meet my staff."

Inspector Richardson said she had mobilised all available staff to patrol the
roads over the weekend.

"Make no mistake, we will be targeting riders taking part in this race. The
underlying motivation behind this event is in my view a recipe for disaster."

end


Please view the full news release online at:

http://www.police.govt.nz/news/release/30897.html

[phill-k]

An open message to Inspector Richardson

On NZ roads it has been shown that police cars doing "U" turns is far more hazardous to the health of Motorcyclists than the TT2000 - perhaps consider banning this practice first.

[puddytat]

So Motorcyclists plan your corners ....
& Policemen plan your U-turns......

[george formby]

An open message to Inspector Richardson

On NZ roads it has been shown that police cars doing "U" turns is far more hazardous to the health of Motorcyclists than the TT2000 - perhaps consider banning this practice first.

That happened in front of me twice at the weekend. Glad I was traveling at the 90 kmh safer speed stupid limit.
Shame that good, experienced riders who devote a huge amount of time to preparing themselves & their bikes for an event like this are being targeted. Picked the wrong market me thinks.
I hope next week people who sit in the outside lane of the motorway at 80kmh are put on the dart board.
I wonder what Inspector Richardson's hobbies are? Answers on a post card please.

[Jantar]

My bike is serviced: new chain and sprockets even though the old ones still had some life left; new rear brake pads, they were over half worn, but would probably have finished this event and then some; tyres are good for at at least 6000kms on the rear and 9000 on the front. During the service I asked for anything that looked like it would need replacing at the next service to be done now. So right now I would consider my bike to be in a more roadworthy condition than most bikes on the road.

My route is planned with decision times, so that if I'm not at point A by time A then I skip the next flyer and accept a lower level of achievement. (My basic route gives me 22000 points so I can afford to miss 3000 points and still get gold). My body is prepared for long distances and long hours at a single go, I'm a shift worker so know what maintaing concentration at unusual times of the day is like.

Overall I would say that I'll be safer on the roads this weekend than most of Inspector Richardson's staff. However if Inspector Richardson wishes to place a popo car with radar on the Elaine Bay road at midight staurday night, he might find I'm a tad over the speed limit at times. Meanwhile, how many burglar complaints and domestics are not being responded to?

[JustNick]

She would have kittens if she knew about the Rusty Nuts Grand Challenge.

[Jantar]

She would have kittens if she knew about the Rusty Nuts Grand Challenge.

The Grand challenge is only 1600 km, most riders on the TT2000 are aiming form 3000+ km. My basic route is 3000 km, a friend from Roxburgh has planned 3250 km.

[LBD]

Not many cops on the road between Picton and Chch today....resting up for a busy weekend I guess

And with an over time bill to pay justify, you can bet they will be out to book one an all.


See you all on the road this weekend

[Jantar]

A heads up. I have just been advised that the TT2000 website www.tt2000.org has been taken down. The police are showing a lot of interest, and according to media there is a contingent of cops coming south from as far away as Auckland purely to target the TT ride. This information is 2nd hand so may not be accurate, but indications are that there is some sort of operation going on against us.

[Shadowjack]

Speechless...:gob:

[whatastoner]

Oh my oh my. How many blank endorsment forms do officers usually carry? Maybe by Sunday they'll have run out.
Please everyone, this isn't a race, just an efficiently paced, well prepared weekend adventure for intelligent riders. As the sergeant on Hill Street Blues used to say "be safe out there". Now I'm really showing my age.

[gatch]

So essentially if you are on a bike and on the road in the sth this weekend, you are probably going to get pulled up a bunch of times.

Awesome.

[Damantis]

A heads up. I have just been advised that the TT2000 website www.tt2000.org has been taken down. The police are showing a lot of interest, and according to media there is a contingent of cops coming south from as far away as Auckland purely to target the TT ride. This information is 2nd hand so may not be accurate, but indications are that there is some sort of operation going on against us.

I better go out for a spot of speeding on the weekend if there's less highway patrol on duty up here! :clap:

[SMOKEU]

this isn't a race, just an efficiently paced, well prepared weekend adventure for intelligent riders.

Bullshit. :brick:

[Swoop]

...in just 48 hours. In doing so they were expected to cover at least 2000 kms.

So:
2000 divided by 48 = 41.6

How many will be ticketed for holding up traffic?


:oi-grr:

[Meanie]

My wife and i did this a couple of years ago and had no problem completing it without having to do any excessive speeds
This inspector obviously doesnt ride a motor cycle
Have a safe one to all those doing it this year

[banditrider]

So:
2000 divided by 48 = 41.6

How many will be ticketed for holding up traffic?


:oi-grr:

Exactly. I'm only doing just over 2,000. I can easily do 1,000km in 12hrs without speeding - I budget on an average of 80km/h for these rides and that's easily achieved.

I will have the GoPro recording if harrassed...

[NinjaNanna]

The Grand challenge is only 1600 km, most riders on the TT2000 are aiming form 3000+ km. My basic route is 3000 km, a friend from Roxburgh has planned 3250 km.

hmmm, and i wonder why the cops are showing interest.

[Coldrider]

My wife and i did this a couple of years ago and had no problem completing it without having to do any excessive speeds
This inspector obviously doesnt ride a motor cycle
Have a safe one to all those doing it this yearhere she is http://www.police.govt.nz/news/release/27035.html she is out to save ya's all

[Jantar]

hmmm, and i wonder why the cops are showing interest.
No idea. Last year I had a moving average below the speed limit and we only had 40 hours. 8 hours extra this year. I'm planning on 36 hours riding and 2 six hour sleep periods. So that's a moving average of 83 km/h.

[Coldrider]

another women popo grooming for paula rose's posy, you'll just have to move the goalposts so there is epic fail.

[Kickaha]

Bullshit. :brick:

Do the math Dumbarse, you can do it easy without breaking the speed limit

[FJRider]

Bullshit. :brick:

Nothing raced but the clock. Each with a plan and time to keep to. Things change ... and so do the plans.

As with ALL long distance events such as this ... from the thousand km days up ... if an efficient pace isn't set, if both bike AND rider is not prepared, a they are not riding with some degree of intelligence and self control. They're dead.

If from the start ... they are not familar with their limits ... by at least half way into their plan ... they WILL be.

Thes rides are not just climbing on a bike and riding. With only the need to top up with gas when needed.

The bravest riders pull out when it gets too tough. The skilled finish and come back next year.

Idiots do finish ... but most DNF ... through lack of time, or just THEIR time.

[SMOKEU]

Do the math Dumbarse, you can do it easy without breaking the speed limit


Nothing raced but the clock. Each with a plan and time to keep to. Things change ... and so do the plans.

As with ALL long distance events such as this ... from the thousand km days up ... if an efficient pace isn't set, if both bike AND rider is not prepared, a they are not riding with some degree of intelligence and self control. They're dead.

If from the start ... they are not familar with their limits ... by at least half way into their plan ... they WILL be.

Thes rides are not just climbing on a bike and riding. With only the need to top up with gas when needed.

The bravest riders pull out when it gets too tough. The skilled finish and come back next year.

Idiots do finish ... but most DNF ... through lack of time, or just THEIR time.

Good in theory, but do you really think it will work in practice? It's nothing but a poorly disguised race. I have been known to exceed speed limits on the odd occasion so I'm not trying to be the fun police, but I'm just telling it like it is.

[Jantar]

Good in theory, but do you really think it will work in practice? It's nothing but a poorly disguised race. I have been known to exceed speed limits on the odd occasion so I'm not trying to be the fun police, but I'm just telling it like it is.

There is no need for it to be a race at all. I also organise the annual Chatto Creek 1000, which like the Grand Challenge is 1000 miles or 1609 km in 24 hours. When setting the route I always pre-ride it to check for unuasual hazards, and I ride it at the legal speed limit. That is as close to 100 km/h as possible, and always within the range of 90 - 109 km/h except where road conditions or lower speed limits dictate otherwise. If it takes me more than 20 hours at the legal speed limit then I deem the route too difficult and choose an easier one. I am also more than willing to submit my GPS tracks to the police for verification that the route can be done successfully within the speed limit and time available. I always keep these tracks untill after the completion of each event, just in case there is an incident and proof is required.

So travelling these distances in the available time at legal speeds is possible.

I will add that I find it both more difficult and more dangerous to ride for such long periods of time concentrating on the speedo rather than the road. I am always more comfortable and safer when I can focus more on the road.

[Kickaha]

Good in theory, but do you really think it will work in practice? It's nothing but a poorly disguised race. I have been known to exceed speed limits on the odd occasion so I'm not trying to be the fun police, but I'm just telling it like it is.


You're speaking from a position of ignorance and what you've posted shows you know nothing about this type of ride or the people who do them

[Shadowjack]

Good in theory, but do you really think it will work in practice? It's nothing but a poorly disguised race. I have been known to exceed speed limits on the odd occasion so I'm not trying to be the fun police, but I'm just telling it like it is.

No, you're not. Why do you try to limit others with your expectations?

[FJRider]

Good in theory, but do you really think it will work in practice? It's nothing but a poorly disguised race. I have been known to exceed speed limits on the odd occasion so I'm not trying to be the fun police, but I'm just telling it like it is.

You can't tell it "Like it is" untill you've done one.

Not all the entrants of the tt2000 will do anywhere near the 3000 kms the cops think the ALL will be doing.

[chanceyy]

Thanks Jantar for sending the cops south.. I will be sure to get the bike out for a ride this weekend now in the police free north !!!:)

have a great weekend and yup I actually laughed when I read the police notification ..

[_Shrek_]

i had forgotten this was on, but as bike is not up to speed will not bother :weep: but next year with a mate or two :whistle:

[_Shrek_]

Good in theory, but do you really think it will work in practice? It's nothing but a poorly disguised race. I have been known to exceed speed limits on the odd occasion so I'm not trying to be the fun police, but I'm just telling it like it is.

ok what about two CHCH riders who go around the big block in one day (1700ks) in less than 20hrs with an av speed of 85ks

so what you need to do is go out & ride some of these distance's before you run off at the mouth ;)

[cooneyr]

Well this is a bit bloody rough. Lets come down hard on the coast to coast and any other endurance event (race or otherwise) that uses public road! Pretty much all these events result in people travelling along public space in a tired state.

I do wonder if people making such strong statements really actually know what an endurance event is about - regardless of the mode of transport. Endurance events are all about mind control/preparedness and maturity i.e. knowing when to pull the plug. Its a bit ridiculous when its publicly deemed that this is too bigger ask. Soon it will be decreed that driving from Chch to Nelson (400km ish) in one day is too long. Entrants in events like this obviously need to put extra effort into being prepared so a perception of what distance/time is appropriate based on every day travelling is just wrong.

Just because some people couldn't do it safely doesn't mean we all can't do it so it must be shut down. The ride is able to be completed within speed limits and safely if you are prepared and look after yourself. Lowest common denominator bringing us down.

[NinjaNanna]

No idea. Last year I had a moving average below the speed limit and we only had 40 hours. 8 hours extra this year. I'm planning on 36 hours riding and 2 six hour sleep periods. So that's a moving average of 83 km/h.

Well either these roads are basically straight or you are being disingenuous around what is required to maintain an 83 km/h moving average on NZ roads.

The cops don't give a shit about moving averages, they're interested in amount of time spent above the speed limit in order to maintain such high averages. Not to mention the level of fatigue that is inevitably involved.

[SMOKEU]

so what you need to do is go out & ride some of these distance's before you run off at the mouth ;)

I'm not even going to attempt it on a Japanese crotch rocket. Maybe a good touring bike would do the trick.

[Zedder]

A heads up. I have just been advised that the TT2000 website www.tt2000.org has been taken down. The police are showing a lot of interest, and according to media there is a contingent of cops coming south from as far away as Auckland purely to target the TT ride. This information is 2nd hand so may not be accurate, but indications are that there is some sort of operation going on against us.

It's a bit over the top from Inspector Richardson but those involved in the event should deploy an operation against the cops.

Operation: "Be safe, be lawful be really really nice to cops".

[pritch]

Was going to respond to this yesterday but the post was shaping up to be an angry rant so I canned it.

Once upon a time I might have wanted to enter a Grand Challenge, Southern Cross, TT2000 or similar, but those days are long gone.

I expect we have to forgive the Inspector her ignorance when there are motorcyclists on here who don't seem to be any better informed?

Ride safe people & good luck. Don't give her any ammunition.

[JMemonic]

Bullshit. :brick:

There you go showing your ignorance, just when you appeared to getting a little wiser.

[JMemonic]

Has anyone got these run sheets?

Buller Gorge
Cape Foulwind
Pupu springs
Red Post corner
Strongman mine
St Arnaud
Tuamarina
Waihopi

I had them but didn't back them up and the laptop hdd corrupted.

[_Shrek_]

Has anyone got these run sheets?

Buller Gorge
Cape Foulwind
Pupu springs
Red Post corner
Strongman mine
St Arnaud
Tuamarina
Waihopi

I had them but didn't back them up and the laptop hdd corrupted.

give Jantar a call JM he'll have them

[Kickaha]

I'm not even going to attempt it on a Japanese crotch rocket. .

Pussy, I've seen a guy do a 1600km event on an NSR80 of course he couldn't walk the day after

[Transalper]

I hope the event is another raging success and at the same time no tickets are able to be issued.
That would show them.

I've seen the prep some riders have put in to their plans for this and am a little envious of their weekend ahead but ~1000km in a day is about all I'm good for (1000 miles would be a stretch) and not two days in a row, so here I am watching from the sidelines living through you.
Good luck and be safe.
:corn:

BTW very cool how there is no set route this year, just a lot of places worth various points scattered all over from which you pick n choose aside from a select few which you have to visit.

[1billyboy]

Did it a couple of years ago. 12 hours 20 minutes both days to do the 1000 km.
On the way back from the Bert Munro. Wellington to Auckland 7 hours.

[puddytat]

I wonder if the police interest in this event is more to do with them not liking the concept of an organised group of males dressed in black with padding & helmets.....
258293They might not like it as they might feel that they have the rights to that look?

[Coldrider]

I wonder if the police interest in this event is more to do with them not liking the concept of an organised group of males dressed in black with padding & helmets.....
258293They might not like it as they might feel that they have the rights to that look?Whanganui isn't a destination ?

[Jantar]

Has anyone got these run sheets?

Buller Gorge
Cape Foulwind
Pupu springs
Red Post corner
Strongman mine
St Arnaud
Tuamarina
Waihopi

I had them but didn't back them up and the laptop hdd corrupted.

I didn't print off the run sheets, but I did load the waypoints onto my GPS and noted on my route planner just what the photo has to be. I'm in Ch'ch right now, and I'll be at the start quite early if you want to get that data.

[_Shrek_]

I didn't print off the run sheets, but I did load the waypoints onto my GPS and noted on my route planner just what the photo has to be. I'm in Ch'ch right now, and I'll be at the start quite early if you want to get that data.

take care M & have a great ride :2thumbsup

[pritch]

I wonder if the police interest in this event is more to do with them not liking the concept of an organised group of males dressed in black with padding & helmets.....
258293They might not like it as they might feel that they have the rights to that look?

That wouldn't be very logical. They only borrowed that look from the SAS. I believe the appropriate term is "wannabe"?

[Jantar]

Well either these roads are basically straight or you are being disingenuous around what is required to maintain an 83 km/h moving average on NZ roads.

The cops don't give a shit about moving averages, they're interested in amount of time spent above the speed limit in order to maintain such high averages. Not to mention the level of fatigue that is inevitably involved.

I read this post this morning before leaving home, but didn't have time to reply. So I checked my moving average over various sections of the trip. I rode at 105 kmh where I could unless held up by traffic, towns or road works. The section from home to Omarama over the Lindis Pass (no straight roads there) had a moving average of 95.2 km/h. Through to Rakaia moving average was 96.1 km/h with a mix of straight and winding roads. Rakaia to Templeton, all straight roads, gave a moving average of 85.3 km/h.

So based on this I now do understand your comment. Its only on the long straight roads with lots of traffic that I can keep a moving average below 90 km/h. On the winding roads it is likely to be much higher.

[Gremlin]

I'll sort Jmemonic in a couple of min, I'm in Christchurch now, with a rest day tomorrow in prep for the TT... Got copies of everything handy dandy on the laptop.

SmokeU and others seem to have no clue. It is not a race. There are no prizes for 1st, 2nd and so on. It's entirely personal, and a reminder that there is still the 2000km course over 2 days. If you achieve a level, you can buy a trophy - yes, it's extra and you pay for it. Like the Grand Challenge, Capital Cruise, Chatto Creek etc, 1000km a day is actually not hard. Perhaps for someone that does 200km a day, 50km a stretch, with a long stop in between legs, yes, absolutely, and I tell them not to bother.

For some of us, we can do upwards of 400km in a stretch, and enjoy it. I don't go to rallies and get all boozed up, my enjoyment comes from riding. Maintaining 100kph in good weather on good roads is actually very easy - if you know how to ride (and I'm not crossing the centre line, taking risks etc). If it gets tighter, yes, the speed drops, but on rolling roads like the South Island passes you could sit above 100kph no problem (but you wouldn't, coz it's speeding).

It's like a cop going onto a mining site and trying to tell everyone what is and isn't dangerous. You'd be laughed off the site. Now, some of us will probably do the Buller Gorge at some point. Please mr officer stay off the fucken road, so you don't U-turn in front of me. :corn:

edit: Additionally, only an idiot would think you'd do all 150 checkpoints in a weekend!

[nzspokes]

A heads up. I have just been advised that the TT2000 website www.tt2000.org has been taken down. The police are showing a lot of interest, and according to media there is a contingent of cops coming south from as far away as Auckland purely to target the TT ride. This information is 2nd hand so may not be accurate, but indications are that there is some sort of operation going on against us.

Sweet, so we can go nuts up here then. :cool:

[NinjaNanna]

I read this post this morning before leaving home, but didn't have time to reply. So I checked my moving average over various sections of the trip. I rode at 105 kmh where I could unless held up by traffic, towns or road works. The section from home to Omarama over the Lindis Pass (no straight roads there) had a moving average of 95.2 km/h. Through to Rakaia moving average was 96.1 km/h with a mix of straight and winding roads. Rakaia to Templeton, all straight roads, gave a moving average of 85.3 km/h.

So based on this I now do understand your comment. Its only on the long straight roads with lots of traffic that I can keep a moving average below 90 km/h. On the winding roads it is likely to be much higher.

very well then .... have a safe and memorable ride everybody.

[Silage]

Can someone tell me when and where the start is (if it hasn't already happened). Bit hard to see with the TT2000 website down. Could come by and see you off.
:wavey:

[Gixxer peter]

very well then .... have a safe and memorable ride everybody.

Start time is 18:00 today

[Shadowjack]

Start time is 18:00 today

1800 - 2200 Friday
0500 - 0700 Saturday morning
Start and finish point: Hampton Honda, Carmen Road.

[george formby]

I find it bizarre that the police, well, a police officer has made such a big & public deal about the TT2000. I have no idea how many riders will be doing it but I bet it is hundreds if not thousands less than the number of riders who turned up for Paeroa, baked in the sun all day watching the racing, topping up the adrenalin, then going home on mass at 4pm buzzing & knackered. I saw 3 maybe 4 officers in town on shanks pony, 2 unmarked cars & 1 patrol car. Oh, and 2 officers on bikes enjoying the racing & doing very tight turns. Hardly heavy handed or judgemental.

[Jdogg]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/news/6466007/TT2000-recipe-for-disaster

[ellipsis]

....it's fairly concerning when she (policewoman) said that 'all bikes would be pulled and checked, whether they are involved in the TT2000 or not'....would they follow all Chinese people and stop them, just in case they were involved in a Triad, all europeans just in case they were Russian and could be involved in a russo-mafia style organisation, all middle eastern people in case they were involved in a terrorist organisation...they would be shot to pieces in nano seconds, by the laws of this land...if this isn't some kind of wank way of the police hassling motorcyclists and spreading disinformation to non motorcycling Joe Public, I dont know what is...

...I shudder to think what would happen if they followed our cuzzies about the place, just in case....

[FJRider]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/news/6466007/TT2000-recipe-for-disaster

More drivers have been killed in police chases ... than during the running of the tt2000. Perhaps they should stop chasing vehicles ... ???

[wanpo]

I'll sort Jmemonic in a couple of min, I'm in Christchurch now, with a rest day tomorrow in prep for the TT... Got copies of everything handy dandy on the laptop.!

So you've decided it's a good idea to get some rest the day before, eh?
Maybe you can teach an old dog new tricks.

[danchop]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/news/6466007/TT2000-recipe-for-disaster
its bullshit how they use the death of a rider as ammunition against the event,when no one to this day knows what caused it,its just unfortunate the accident happened while they were participating in the event.being a close relative to both riders involved,i know one would be looking down spewing that his death was being used as ammo to stop any motorcycle event fullstop

[Shadowjack]

Until I read these two articles, I had no idea, absolutely none, that I was so bad-ass.
No wonder the folks in the office were looking at me with so much more respect, nay, fear, even. My cover is blown...

edit:
I'm all set to go, for a 0500 start tomorrow, and had some time (too much) on my hands:
http://www.police.govt.nz/news/release/27035.html

[george formby]

Until I read these two articles, I had no idea, absolutely none, that I was so bad-ass.
No wonder the folks in the office were looking at me with so much more respect, nay, fear, even. My cover is blown...

Take plenty of chocolate fish with you. I'm sure the sterling officers patrolling night & day this weekend to check your cross country rampaging & marauding will be tired & appreciate the sugary fortitude you can offer. Have you got horns for your hemlet?
Have fun & enjoy your new pew.

[Shadowjack]

Take plenty of chocolate fish with you. I'm sure the sterling officers patrolling night & day this weekend to check your cross country rampaging & marauding will be tired & appreciate the sugary fortitude you can offer. Have you got horns for your hemlet?
Have fun & enjoy your new pew.

No, but whilst getting some new tyres (Continental Road Attack 2 (R)/Continental (F)) this afternoon, I saw some pink Mohicans...

[insomnia01]

the Rustys had better watch out then !!! ( GC + Sthrn Cross ) I should I say SHE had better watch out for Lee Rusty :angry2::angry2:

[Mr Triple]

I'm alsorted looking forward to it... even the Tasman :bash:

[Shadowjack]

I'm alsorted looking forward to it... even the Tasman :bash:

Especially the Tasman :mellow:
Possibly see you around, Mr T.

[Vgygrwr]

Can't quite see me making a 5am start but before 6pm. Suspect our Linwood man may have remodelled a couple of TDM seats. Don't think I will abandon the Airhawk yet though. All set to go, looking forward to some Tasman sunshine.

[gunnyrob]

Ride well & safe boys & girls!

[Tony W]

..........

[Tony W]

Have a good ride you reckless law-breakers.

Hope to see yiz on the news.

Wave out to the cameras.



...and please remember to place feedback, on Monday !

[scumdog]

An O.T.T. top to a virtually non-existant 'problem', I showed the Nelson Police reaction to the TT2000 to a crusty old full-on Highway Patrol guy at work today and he just groaned and rolled his eyes and "what next...":rolleyes:

[Woodman]

Quotes from the front page of tonights Nelson Mail from Jenni Richardson

"Vowing to target tt2000 riders"
"essentially a race"
"Highly likely to meet my staff"
"I have no doubt that there will be extremely fatigued riders travelling at excessive speeds"

Enjoy the ride guys.

[_Shrek_]

Quotes from the front page of tonights Nelson Mail from Jenni Richardson

"Vowing to target tt2000 riders"
"essentially a race"
"Highly likely to meet my staff"
"I have no doubt that there will be extremely fatigued riders travelling at excessive speeds"

Enjoy the ride guys.

she's just doing this coz she can't ride that fast :blink:

apart from that the rest of ya have a shit load of fun & remember to :D when pulled ova & yes sir no sir three bags full sir

[Coldrider]

If it don't get televised coverage on tomorrow nights news I know it is a fizzer.:shit:

[FJRider]

If it don't get televised coverage on tomorrow nights news I know it is a fizzer.:shit:

Two minutes on Police 10-7 ... Do you recognise this rider ... ??? :facepalm:

[tigertim20]

ridiculous, blatant targeting of bikers. The actually said outright that they will deliberately target motorcycles all weekend - if youre so focussed on targetting bikers, how are you going to see the drunk driver or the guy over the white line or or or?
Targeting one group makes those in other groups much more likely to get away with balatantly illegal, and highly dangerous activities like drunk driving - all because them big bad meanie leather clad scourges of society MIGHT get clipped at 107km/hr on a long straight road.

It is a shame that they focussed on the one death that caused during the TT, and not the MANY that participate without incident, interesting also that they attribute the cause of the accident to the actual TT - it could have been caused by many other external factors. I could point out on the fatality front, that more bikers have been killed in the tasman area by fuckwits cops doing illegal U turns, than there have been fatalities that could in ANY way be attributed to the TT. More people have died as a result of shark attacks in NZ waters than have died in the TT.

It is a shame that the police decision makers chose to go with a negatively focussed approach, with fact twisting and outright lies about the event.
Given that the policewoman in charge in the tasman area is a biker, I am a bit surprised that they didnt try a different approach if the had concerns.

Heres a thought, what about them picking a spot most likely to be frequented by the most riders, and put up a table with some coffee and sammiches, I feel that a "Due to the high number of riders in the area doing long days of travelling, we have taken an interest in their safety and will be providing coffee and sandwiches as revivers so that NZers can enjoy their weekends in safety" the police are after all, supposed to be there to provide protection and safety, instead they are being utilised as basically an armed offence squad (tickets instead of guns) acting menacingly by threatening to harass all on two wheels.

Im left a bit lot for words at the brainlessness of the cunts in charge of the police, and Id like nothing more than to drag them into the gutter and kick them in the fucking teeth

[gatch]

This even made 3 news tonight. Hilarious.

Just remember if you get pulled up, it's YOUR LIFE they are saving, you lot should be thankful..

[caspernz]

Mmmm, all the best guys n gals.

On the news tonight was a clip about all mentioned before, made even my non-biking wifey respond to the Police opinion: Bollocks!!!!

Clocking 2000 kms in 48 hrs is easy enough with enough preparation. No I've not partaken in previous TTs nor am I likely to in the near future, just doesn't hold any appeal nor challenge for me, it's too much like my job anyhow.

The whole idea of needing to do excessive speeds to achieve the averages required to cover the distance....smacks of inexperience of the subject. The best way to put this to bed is for nobody to fall off and no tickets, so that's my wish for the event. :woohoo::woohoo:

[Tony W]

ridiculous, blatant targeting of bikers. The actually said outright that they will deliberately target motorcycles all weekend - if youre so focussed on targetting bikers, how are you going to see the drunk driver or the guy over the white line or or or?
Targeting one group makes those in other groups much more likely to get away with balatantly illegal, and highly dangerous activities like drunk driving - all because them big bad meanie leather clad scourges of society MIGHT get clipped at 107km/hr on a long straight road.

It is a shame that they focussed on the one death that caused during the TT, and not the MANY that participate without incident, interesting also that they attribute the cause of the accident to the actual TT - it could have been caused by many other external factors. I could point out on the fatality front, that more bikers have been killed in the tasman area by fuckwits cops doing illegal U turns, than there have been fatalities that could in ANY way be attributed to the TT. More people have died as a result of shark attacks in NZ waters than have died in the TT.

It is a shame that the police decision makers chose to go with a negatively focussed approach, with fact twisting and outright lies about the event.
Given that the policewoman in charge in the tasman area is a biker, I am a bit surprised that they didnt try a different approach if the had concerns.

Heres a thought, what about them picking a spot most likely to be frequented by the most riders, and put up a table with some coffee and sammiches, I feel that a "Due to the high number of riders in the area doing long days of travelling, we have taken an interest in their safety and will be providing coffee and sandwiches as revivers so that NZers can enjoy their weekends in safety" the police are after all, supposed to be there to provide protection and safety, instead they are being utilised as basically an armed offence squad (tickets instead of guns) acting menacingly by threatening to harass all on two wheels.

Im left a bit lot for words at the brainlessness of the cunts in charge of the police, and Id like nothing more than to drag them into the gutter and kick them in the fucking teeth



WOW ! you are passionate ! :)

Enjoy the:yes: TV coverage

[Coldrider]

Two minutes on Police 10-7 ... Do you recognise this rider ... ??? :facepalm:meh, if a HP patrol parks up on the west coast his count may increase to two bikers per hour.....from 1 per morning/afternoon.:yawn:

[tigertim20]

WOW ! you are passionate ! :)

Enjoy the:yes: TV coverage

nah, Im just an angry tourrettes cunt!:crazy:

[FJRider]

meh, if a HP patrol parks up on the west coast his count may increase to two bikers per hour.....from 1 per morning/afternoon.:yawn:

or anywhere around here ...

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[Tony W]

OMG !...that IS a dangerous stretch of road.....:sweatdrop

[Tony W]

nah, Im just an angry tourrettes cunt!:crazy:



Nice gun btw...

[Coldrider]

or anywhere around here ...
That road is tooooo straight, but i'm shitty i wanna ride some south island roads now, can't wait till the brass, can't even relate a frost to the outside temperature here.

[FJRider]

That road is tooooo straight, but i'm shitty i wanna ride some south island roads now, can't wait till the brass, can't even relate a frost to the outside temperature here.

That road is (often) directly into the teeth of a Canterbury nor-wester ... which can bring a fully laden motorcycle to a crawl very quickly. On a good day.
On a better day however ... the straight isn't that long, and more fun bits can be found just down the road. (in either direction).

But that spot ... although it affords great views of the mountains .... has hidden dangers that can lurk in the shadows. Sheep (sheltering from the wind) on the road are a bigger threat than cops.

[Kickaha]

or anywhere around here ...
So quite some time ago I may (or may not)have been doing around 200kmh down that road and others were pulling out and passing me

The GC boys up North must be next in line for this shit, that cop on Tv was a fuckwit

[Madness]

or anywhere around here ...

There's a hottie in the back of the bus :innocent:

[FJRider]

So quite some time ago I may (or may not)have been doing around 200kmh down that road and others were pulling out and passing me



One of the few times I've had the FJ over 8000 RPM ... was on that piece of road. In the opposite direction to shown there ... around 2 am, on a Chatto creek 1000 miler. (boosted the moving average up a bit for that leg) It was pitch dark and no moon.

[FJRider]

There's a hottie in the back of the bus :innocent:

There often is ... :love:

[Coldrider]

... Do you recognise this rider ... ??? :facepalm:could be Tame Iti, if his facial moko couldn't be clearly visible.:innocent:

[FJRider]

could be Tame Iti, if his facial moko couldn't be clearly visible.:innocent:

That's him ... 3 1/2 million of us wouldn't lie ...

[pete376403]

She can't comprehend that TT2000 riders are going to do more kms in a weekend than she might possibly do in an entire year so therefore they must be breaking the law.

Looks like a worthy successor to Paula Rose.

[Berries]

Heres a thought, what about them picking a spot most likely to be frequented by the most riders, and put up a table with some coffee and sammiches, I feel that a "Due to the high number of riders in the area doing long days of travelling, we have taken an interest in their safety and will be providing coffee and sandwiches as revivers so that NZers can enjoy their weekends in safety"
A fantastic idea that would have done much to improve the image of the Police and may have even given them some positive publicity for once. Oh well, maybe next year.



Not.

[ellipsis]

...the bunch of cunts that you/we all fronted regards acc/rego and fucked with their latte time are now going about their business of proving they are right, we are wrong, and we are now being forced to do penance for our sins...those fuckwits that got voted back into public purse ain't gonna let some group of motorcyclists converging on them, make them look stupid... they probably felt threatened...is this the cops or robbers initiative...or a ploy for someone else's step up the rung...every little bit that we give, we will never see again...wide fwee bwuvas and blisters...

[FJRider]

Heres a thought, what about them picking a spot most likely to be frequented by the most riders, and put up a table with some coffee and sammiches, I feel that a "Due to the high number of riders in the area doing long days of travelling, we have taken an interest in their safety and will be providing coffee and sandwiches as revivers so that NZers can enjoy their weekends in safety" the police are after all, supposed to be there to provide protection and safety, instead they are being utilised as basically an armed offence squad (tickets instead of guns) acting menacingly by threatening to harass all on two wheels.



Yep ... and while you're stopped chaps ... :shifty:

[_Shrek_]

Heres a thought, what about them picking a spot most likely to be frequented by the most riders, and put up a table with some coffee and sammiches, I feel that a "Due to the high number of riders in the area doing long days of travelling, we have taken an interest in their safety and will be providing coffee and sandwiches as revivers so that NZers can enjoy their weekends in safety" the police are after all, supposed to be there to provide protection and safety, instead they are being utilised as basically an armed offence squad (tickets instead of guns) acting menacingly by threatening to harass all on two wheels.

they do this every year in nth Canty weigh bridge, (Waiprara) you have to come in for a coffee & sausage & they tell you they are promoting safe driving etc..
so good idea for the TT if she ( :Police: tart on HD ) want to promot safe :ride:

[kiwi cowboy]

One of the few times I've had the FJ over 8000 RPM ... was on that piece of road. In the opposite direction to shown there ... around 2 am, on a Chatto creek 1000 miler. (boosted the moving average up a bit for that leg) It was pitch dark and no moon.


So you were speeding or you forgot were the gearbox was and were stuck in first gear????????????????????.

[george formby]

One of the few times I've had the FJ over 8000 RPM ... was on that piece of road. In the opposite direction to shown there ... around 2 am, on a Chatto creek 1000 miler. (boosted the moving average up a bit for that leg) It was pitch dark and no moon.


Shhhhh, :shutup: that's justification unless you were on a portable dyno in the back of a hi ace.


Ride well everybody. No doubt part deux of the plan is to have a live flogging of any riders caught mis-demeaning on Mondays news then a closing shot of them being hauled off to the salt mines for the publics safety.

[red mermaid]

As if the riders on the TT would stop for a rest break! :eek5:


they do this every year in nth Canty weigh bridge, (Waiprara) you have to come in for a coffee & sausage & they tell you they are promoting safe driving etc..
so good idea for the TT if she ( :Police: tart on HD ) want to promot safe :ride:

[george formby]

As if the riders on the TT would stop for a rest break! :eek5:

Fair call. An OEM chemical toilet is available in the Honda Goldwing accessory catalogue, comes with free Honda branded chaps. Same page as the 5 setting buttock & lower back massaging seat.

[_Shrek_]

As if the riders on the TT would stop for a rest break! :eek5:

if there was a free coffee & sossy on a streatch of road in the middle of no where I would coz it would be a great time to stop for a piss, :blip: mind you if you're not over 50 you might have not understand why :whistle:

[Mrs Shrek]

if there was a free coffee & sossy on a streatch of road in the middle of no where I would coz it would be a great time to stop for a piss, :blip: :whistle:


:eek5: too much information :gob:
I always thought that the men were admiring the good health of the local farms when I saw them lined up along the fence line :innocent:

[FJRider]

So you were speeding or you forgot were the gearbox was and were stuck in first gear????????????????????.

I believe it was a closed road ... I am firm in my belief's ... :innocent:

[george formby]

:eek5: too much information :gob:
I always thought that the men were admiring the good health of the local farms when I saw them lined up along the fence line :innocent:

Oh no! Something else worthy of being hunted down for. I hope all the riders are carrying appropriately sized receptacles so they don't hurt the hedges & can show their care & consideration for outer roa when asked by any interested constabulary about their road side ablutions.

I think it may be the toilet stops that started this campaign in the first place.... Perhaps the venerable inspector has found herself caught short on occasion & is passing her guilt of "hurrying up" onto others. Maybe she can't hover?

[miSTa]

ok what about two CHCH riders who go around the big block in one day (1700ks) in less than 20hrs with an av speed of 85ks
Slight correction sunshine...there was three of us and closer to 1400kms for the day. Time away from home >19hours, time on bike moving >16 hours IIRC. :sunny:


It would seem to me that this policewoman is using her experiences on a 1200 Sportster as a basis for what everyone else can do. :facepalm:



Damn, I wish I was out there now.

[_Shrek_]

Slight correction sunshine...there was three of us and closer to 1400kms for the day. Time away from home >19hours, time on bike moving >16 hours IIRC. :sunny:


It would seem to me that this policewoman is using her experiences on a 1200 Sportster as a basis for what everyone else can do. :facepalm:



Damn, I wish I was out there now.

:Oops: old people :facepalm: was thinking the same thing when it all started, :shifty: what say we join the race next year & go for gold :Punk:

[Captain_Salty]

what is the big block, arthur's - haast - lindis ?

[FJRider]

Slight correction sunshine...there was three of us and closer to 1400kms for the day. Time away from home >19hours, time on bike moving >16 hours IIRC. :sunny:


I know of ONE member on site here (there may be more) that is KNOWN to have done 1635 km's in the elapsed time of just under 14 hours. (same roads) So by comparison ... your time is a tad slower ...

[puddytat]

hey you lot, according to TV3 you're all keeping a low profile:shit:
nice bit of Buller gorge footage(3secs)& some footage of some real dodgey looking bikers at Cable Bay:yes:

[SVboy]

So, the safety "initiatives"are in full swing.We got stopped in Tai tapu, Licences,wof and reg checked, then another 3 HP between there and the hilltop! Of course, one went to pull a U turn on a blind crest near the Hilltop {I kid you not!} Some filthy looks and pointed fingers-and he looked sheepish-he knew exactly what we were on about! On the way home one HP and a Mufti. Hmmmm Message sent! Bikers are a soft target for publicity seeking careerist shiny bum officers.

[Ghost_Bullet]

what is the big block, arthur's - haast - lindis ?

Big block is Chch, Lewis, Coast, Hoki, Haast, Hawea, Tarras, Omarama, Fairlie, Geraldine, Thompsons track and home.

http://g.co/maps/jvu73t

It was an awesome days ride, the bugger was the stop in Franz for a feed that took ages to receive, valuable time lost, but nice in the tummy though.

The TT would be a great run though.... Longs days int he saddle are sure challenging though.

Ok ok miSTa edited the map to include the bit I had forgotten... lol wanker.

[BigOne]

So, the safety "initiatives"are in full swing.We got stopped in Tai tapu, Licences,wof and reg checked, then another 3 HP between there and the hilltop! Of course, one went to pull a U turn on a blind crest near the Hilltop {I kid you not!} Some filthy looks and pointed fingers-and he looked sheepish-he knew exactly what we were on about! On the way home one HP and a Mufti. Hmmmm Message sent! Bikers are a soft target for publicity seeking careerist shiny bum officers.

I asked the cop in Tai Tapu why he stopped me. (the laser was scattering all over the place, I saw it as I came in).
He said, 'just checking documentation'. Apparently Nick Smith is pissed that the bike licensing revenue has dropped with the increases, not improved.
he said 'expect to get stopped multiple times today'. I asked him where. They are trying to police us off the roads.

[Subike]

I asked the cop in Tai Tapu why he stopped me. (the laser was scattering all over the place, I saw it as I came in).
He said, 'just checking documentation'. Apparently Nick Smith is pissed that the bike licensing revenue has dropped with the increases, not improved.
he said 'expect to get stopped multiple times today'. I asked him where. They are trying to police us off the roads.


I was pulled today and asked for my licence,
""not a problem officer""
I carefully got off of my bike, ensuring that it did not fall over,
I removed my gloves, one at a time, slowly of course.
Removed my helmet, which I then had to put my gloves inside of,
Then hang my helmet over my back rest, efficiently covering my L plate he had not seen yet,
Then after removing my two jackets, to give access to my leather pants ,
Which I had to undo to get to the back pocket of my jeans,
I pulled out my wallet, and looked for my license,
""Damn thats right, sorry officer,
I put it in my jacket pocket in case I was stopped.""
I produced my License and handed it to him.
He noticed I was on a learners, as he went to the back of my bike to check for Vehicle licence and WOF
Which were clearly visible and up to date.
"mmmm" I see you are not displaying a learners label
And what is the CC rating of this bike?"
" Oh sorry officer, its a 250 as the license label reads"
I lifted my helmet off my back rest which very clearly displayed my learners label.
"And here is my label, as per requirements of my license"
In all it took probably 5 min to do this, and I could see that it was an annoyance,
But as I knew I was 100% legit, bike only 650kiliometers old,
What had I to fear?
What was the reason for being stopped?
Checking Licenses and WOF. nothing else.

While he was dealing with me another 5 bikes had ridden past,
maybe my slothisim helped another rider, and reminded the officer of how dumb this whole enforcement thing is.

I'm 54, I don't rush anything anymore.

[miSTa]

I know of ONE member on site here (there may be more) that is KNOWN to have done 1635 km's in the elapsed time of just under 14 hours. (same roads) So by comparison ... your time is a tad slower ...
Bugger, wish I had known it was a race!


It was an awesome days ride, the bugger was the stop in Franz for a feed that took ages to receive, valuable time lost, but nice in the tummy though.
Don't ya just hate waiting for an age to recieve?
You're map is wrong - we done the entire Buller Gorge and why is it bypassing Hoki?

[kiwi cowboy]

I think it may be the toilet stops that started this campaign in the first place.... Perhaps the venerable inspector has found herself caught short on occasion & is passing her guilt of "hurrying up" onto others. Maybe she can't hover?

Perhaps a shewizz sent unanamously then she wouldnt have to stop (wouldnt want to follow too close ether)

[gijoe1313]

This thread is full of win, carry on chaps, nothing to see here! :innocent: :msn-wink:

[_Shrek_]

This thread is full of win, carry on chaps, nothing to see here! :innocent: :msn-wink:

so why arn't you doing this ride, race thingy :blink:

P.T

[Subike]

so why arn't you doing this ride, race thingy :blink:

it would be too bloody easy for him Keith, he would be on the second round before most got half way

[_Shrek_]

" Oh sorry officer, its a 250 as the license label reads"
I lifted my helmet off my back rest which very clearly displayed my learners label.
"And here is my label, as per requirements of my license"
In all it took probably 5 min to do this, and I could see that it was an annoyance,
But as I knew I was 100% legit, bike only 650kiliometers old,
What had I to fear?
What was the reason for being stopped?
Checking Licenses and WOF. nothing else.

While he was dealing with me another 5 bikes had ridden past,
maybe my slothisim helped another rider, and reminded the officer of how dumb this whole enforcement thing is.

I'm 54, I don't rush anything anymore.

sorry my arse mr :innocent: I can see your face even from here :laugh: so reading this I see you're all legal tegal do ya still have the XS?

aye & ya right about gijoe :laugh:

[Subike]

sorry my arse mr :innocent: I can see your face even from here :laugh: so reading this I see you're all legal tegal do ya still have the XS?


Yes I sure do, both parked up in the garage, tanks drained, cabs drained,
sitting on blocks so there is no weight on the tires.
and covered in nice warm blanket, where they can sleep for the next few months.
Time to be legal as
especially with all the heat we are getting from the popo

[_Shrek_]

Yes I sure do, both parked up in the garage, tanks drained, cabs drained,
sitting on blocks so there is no weight on the tires.
and covered in nice warm blanket, where they can sleep for the next few months.
Time to be legal as
especially with all the heat we are getting from the popo

so I take it you're not doing the TT!!! just out for a :ride: & being harassed while the others nek past :laugh: well done :clap:

[Berries]

Big concrete pour last night in Dunedin. One of the drivers told me they saw three bikes early in the morning with the riders all having mohawks stuck to their helmets. He was told that there was a bike gang in Gore that ran an annual 2000km race around the south island.

Bloody Gorons.

[Subike]

so I take it you're not doing the TT!!! just out for a :ride: & being harassed while the others nek past :laugh: well done :clap:

Passive resistance can be a whole heap of fun .
If more of us did it, well,
good people dont need to be harassed do they?
Just imagine a line of many bikes being deliberately slow , but compliant at a road check point
oh bugger, such time wasted for nothing
surely they would have to report back that out of the X amount of bikes checked, 0 was the ticket number issued.
wars do not have to be fought with guns and fists, or breaking of the rules

[Racing Dave]

I know of ONE member on site here (there may be more) that is KNOWN to have done 1635 km's in the elapsed time of just under 14 hours. (same roads) So by comparison ... your time is a tad slower ...

I hope you're not ashamed of me, Trevor - like most, I left at 6pm on Friday night, and finished today (Sunday) at 4pm, having covered just 2081km. Saw a total of 7 cops, none of whom pulled me up, but all of whom were obviously targeting bike speed, as in a long line of (spread out) traffic, I was the only one swept by radar. However, as you know, I'm a law abiding fellow...

Two good night's sleep, two and a half great days riding, mostly without seeing any other TT-ers. The exception was at Mt Cook this arvo, when there were 5 bikes in the warm sun. Cape Foulwind, yesterday, was very wet. All good fun, and only had to stop 3 times for petrol. 37 litres goes a long way at the speed limit...

Cheers,
Dave B

[_Shrek_]

I hope you're not ashamed of me, Trevor - like most, I left at 6pm on Friday night, and finished today (Sunday) at 4pm, having covered just 2081km. Saw a total of 7 cops, none of whom pulled me up, but all of whom were obviously targeting bike speed, as in a long line of (spread out) traffic, I was the only one swept by radar. However, as you know, I'm a law abiding fellow...

Two good night's sleep, two and a half great days riding, mostly without seeing any other TT-ers. The exception was at Mt Cook this arvo, when there were 5 bikes in the warm sun. Cape Foulwind, yesterday, was very wet. All good fun, and only had to stop 3 times for petrol. 37 litres goes a long way at the speed limit...

Cheers,
Dave B

cheers :apint: R.D

[FJRider]

I hope you're not ashamed of me, Trevor - like most, I left at 6pm on Friday night, and finished today (Sunday) at 4pm, having covered just 2081km. Saw a total of 7 cops, none of whom pulled me up, but all of whom were obviously targeting bike speed, as in a long line of (spread out) traffic, I was the only one swept by radar. However, as you know, I'm a law abiding fellow...

Two good night's sleep, two and a half great days riding, mostly without seeing any other TT-ers. The exception was at Mt Cook this arvo, when there were 5 bikes in the warm sun. Cape Foulwind, yesterday, was very wet. All good fun, and only had to stop 3 times for petrol. 37 litres goes a long way at the speed limit...

Cheers,
Dave B

Certainly not ... I am in admiration of your ability. Those that haven't any ... attract attention fast.

I don't text and ride at the same time ... so I abide the law too ... :innocent: Getting caught is the crime ... Don't get caught ... didn't happen .... :cool:

Cape Foulwind wet ... never ... :killingme

Glad you had no problems ... and no need to be looking in the mirrors to see who's catching up on you .. :lol:

[6ft5]

Well done all involved, the passion to ride survives the idiocy of ignorant opinion :bleh:

[Shadowjack]

Just got back, unpacked, and am now enjoying a hot cuppaT and an Anzac biscuit.
Started 0510 yesterday on the southern loop, overnighting in Murchison.
Mt Cook was brilliant in the morning sun, got a bit wet up the Coast from Greymouth to Westport, the Buller was damp, but not wet.
Saw a HP attending to a Mistubishi Magna this morning just north of Murch, nothing else.
Takaka Hill was a treat; ran it in company of 4 other TT riders (that's riders, Shrek, not racers!!). Coming back through the Lewis is always fun.
Finished just after 1900 tonight: Great way to spend a weekend - thanks, Organisers and Crew, for another fantastic event, and well done to all the participants who rode the event, despite the tar'n'feathers that were sprayed around.

[nzspokes]

Did Gremlin get around ok?

[_Shrek_]

(that's riders, Shrek, not racers!!).

:thud: but, but, but that nice :Police: on TV3 said it was a race & they was going to stop it :nono: shame on :Police: for telling porkies

:clap: well done chaps, great to see you had a great :ride: D

:psst: I will be joining in next year

[STJim]

I am looking forward to the tour reports. I didn't take part this year.

[LBD]

Gremlin and Whatastoner had not finished when I left the finish at 8.30pm....hope they did, I saw them at Haast at my 1/2 way mark well before 1/2 time.

2 of us were Diamond again, at 8.30pm but i expect anothe couple before 10pm

3104km, 6 hours sleep, hot shower, dinner and a top son in law who was up at 4 am to cook me up a Bacon and Egg breakfast before I left.

And regarding the nay sayers....I completed diamond at the speed limit ish...all below 110, much below 104 and if if you want the evidence.....
There are 5 pages and Haast to Mossburn is missing..
http://share.findmespot.com/shared/faces/viewspots.jsp?glId=0LcKZuTJpKjf1l93y1B6AZBxUl7tKSh DQ

[Swoop]

Did Gremlin get around ok?
He's probably doing a victory lap since the distance would be a "bit short" for his weekend rides.:lol:

[shafty]

Well done Subbike! Love it.

Blardy ridiculous focussig on the TT while Boyracers are outta control.
Looks like a good score card so far though...... Bikers 1 - Revenue Gatherers 0 ?

Twould be nice to ask the Lady what the outcome of her campaign was. Were the Riders professional and licensed? Were they wearing the appropriate apparel? Were the bikes up to scratch? How many high speed tickets issued?

Looking forward to more tales from the Riders participating.....

Well done!

Shafty

[Jantar]

Gremlin and Whatastoner had not finished when I left the finish at 8.30pm...
Whatastoner came in just as I was leaving the finish around 9:15 pm. Still no sign of Gremlin at that point.

[Gixxer peter]

No tickets for the c50s either.
No trophpies either.
We only managed 1350km before the body gave out, the left footpeg fell off at around midnight on Friday in the danseys pass area, it was hard work to keep riding with only one peg.
We did manage to head through the Catlans to Slope point and also tried to get the c50s up Baldwin St in Dunners but no luck with that either.
We are already planning next year, we are sure we can do it.
As i am shifting to Perth next year planning will be harder but i will become the "other" international rider.
Thanks again Mike for a great (and safe) event
next year we will do it!!!!

[gijoe1313]

Thanks for the updates guys, I am always impressed by how riders just go for the sheer joy and spectacle of ... riding! :clap: I daresay that some well deserved rest and servicing on bodies and machinery is due!

Will be great reading stories as they eventually trickle in! :eek:

[scumdog]

I wonder when the Tasman district spokes'person' will be interviewed to see how many TT2000 participants were caught speeding, crashed. were killed or what have you?:rolleyes:

(Tuis moment here methinks)

[gijoe1313]

Well got in touch with TOTO and Gremlin, they got in at 9pm and 10pm respectively. Seems Gremlin had a lot of fun in his TT! :weird: They are relaxing in the charming hamlet of Hanmer and made the most of the day by riding! (which I approve of!)

[Jdogg]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/6484708/Police-deny-taking-down-TT2000-motorcycle-rally-website

[Swoop]

I wonder when the Tasman district spokes'person' will be interviewed to see how many TT2000 participants were caught speeding, crashed. were killed or what have you?

I'm sure they will be forthcoming with a cost/benefit to the taxpayer from this operation.
Out of area reinforcements/accomodation/food, etc, etc.

[NiggleC]

It's important to Ms Richardson that a bunch of mainly, lets face it, middle aged men do not enjoy themselves (there were female riders too). I hardly saw a cop and I wouldn't have registered on their radar anyway. The 1 cop who I did see close up was completing a U turn just over the brow of a hill just north of Hanmer. If my arrival had been a few seconds earlier....... . The road was straight for at least 400 metres after the brow so why this bozo in the black commodore thought this spot was appropriate is beyond my comprehension . Anyway it was a great way to spend a weekend, got wet, got cold, got too hot, saw some great scenery, missed some scenery because it was dark, had a few laughs ( hung my camel back from a small hook on my empty pannier rack at Murchison and found it was still there when i arrived in Motueka), ate too many muesli bars, and discovered the public toilets in Tekapo are HEATED. Will be back next year for sure.

[puddytat]

. The 1 cop who I did see close up was completing a U turn just over the brow of a hill just north of Hanmer. If my arrival had been a few seconds earlier....... . The road was straight for at least 400 metres after the brow so why this bozo in the black commodore thought this spot was appropriate is beyond my comprehension . .

Aaaaaah, the famous Black Commodork......seen it myself doing the dodgeyist of U-Turns down the Buller...dunno why he bothered.:innocent:

[LBD]

Well that was fun...Well done Mike and much appreciated....now to look forward to next year and what ever changes you come up with...bring it on.

So who all went into the Patarau river....I did and I know of one other....

And....what are these adventures of Gremlins?

[Coldrider]

It's important to Ms Richardson that a bunch of mainly, lets face it, middle aged men do not enjoy themselves (there were female riders too). I hardly saw a cop and I wouldn't have registered on their radar anyway. The 1 cop who I did see close up was completing a U turn just over the brow of a hill just north of Hanmer. If my arrival had been a few seconds earlier....... . The road was straight for at least 400 metres after the brow so why this bozo in the black commodore thought this spot was appropriate is beyond my comprehension . Anyway it was a great way to spend a weekend, got wet, got cold, got too hot, saw some great scenery, missed some scenery because it was dark, had a few laughs ( hung my camel back from a small hook on my empty pannier rack at Murchison and found it was still there when i arrived in Motueka), ate too many muesli bars, and discovered the public toilets in Tekapo are HEATED. Will be back next year for sure.Did many of the participants actually meet up with Jenni's boys or was she just using the media as a megaphone (economical). Alot of riders know nothing about the TT2000 till her press releases so it could possibly be bigger than ever next year.

[kiwigjt]

WOW ! you are passionate ! :)

Enjoy the:yes: TV coverage

I fully agree, I can't beleive he ended with "I am a bit lost for words".

[Rodger96]

Big concrete pour last night in Dunedin. One of the drivers told me they saw three bikes early in the morning with the riders all having mohawks stuck to their helmets. He was told that there was a bike gang in Gore that ran an annual 2000km race around the south island.

Bloody Gorons.
Well who ever spread the rumor that there a motorcycle gang from gore has realy got there facts wrong,you will find there a bunch of middle aged men who have turned "GAY" for the TT2000 weekend wearing pink mohawk's round. There based in Invercargill and are not a motorcycle gang,Im not part of the Team gay group but have been talking to the team leader a day after the event and one of the Founding Memeber's Doe's have a sore arse Il let you be the judge of that!

[_Shrek_]

Im not part of the Team gay group but have been talking to the team leader a day after the event and one of the Founding Memeber's Doe's have a sore arse Il let you be the judge of that!

honda riders :facepalm:

[Racing Dave]

I wonder when the Tasman district spokes'person' will be interviewed to see how many TT2000 participants were caught speeding, crashed. were killed or what have you?:rolleyes:

(Tuis moment here methinks)

I spoke to Jenni at some length, yesterday, and despite my best arguments she believes that fatigue and speed are likely to complete the course in the time allowed. Of course, we know that's not true, but her belief is firm. I asked how many speeding tickets were issued to TT riders, and she said "very few" (anecdotally, it's about 3) in the 230,000 km that the riders covered. Three quarters of the riders covered just the minumum 2000 km without getting sufficient points for the various grades of awards. No crashes were reported to her. In other words, the results as far as attracting the law's attention goes are consistent with the past three events. She did bring up the matter of Nolan Going's fatal crash in 2010, but given that she hadn't (as of yesterday) read either the SCU or Coroner's reports, this is a red herring. The coroner concluded that the death was a tragic accident. Jenni did say, however, that the riders behaved and she was pleased with the outcome.

Cheers,
Dave B

[Muppet]

When is the TT2000 website going to be back up and running?

[scumdog]

I spoke to Jenni at some length, yesterday, and despite my best arguments she believes that fatigue and speed are likely to complete the course in the time allowed. Of course, we know that's not true, but her belief is firm. I asked how many speeding tickets were issued to TT riders, and she said "very few" (anecdotally, it's about 3) in the 230,000 km that the riders covered. Three quarters of the riders covered just the minumum 2000 km without getting sufficient points for the various grades of awards. No crashes were reported to her. In other words, the results as far as attracting the law's attention goes are consistent with the past three events. She did bring up the matter of Nolan Going's fatal crash in 2010, but given that she hadn't (as of yesterday) read either the SCU or Coroner's reports, this is a red herring. The coroner concluded that the death was a tragic accident. Jenni did say, however, that the riders behaved and she was pleased with the outcome.

Cheers,
Dave B

Good shit!

She'll know in her heart she over-reacted.

I wonder who the person was that was yanking her chain??

[Racing Dave]

Good shit!

She'll know in her heart she over-reacted.

I wonder who the person was that was yanking her chain??

I asked her why she made all the fuss just two days before the start, and she said that that was when she found out aboiut the rally, which was brought to her attention by one of her staff. I also pointed out that after the Coroner's report was released Mike had written to the Nelson police offering to cancel future TT2000s (the report came out two months before the 2011 rally) if there was any concern at all from the police that the event itself, or the running of it, in any way gave them doubts about trally. He had no reply to that offer.

Over-reaction? Wait till next year. Despite the TT's year by year success and very low numbers of tickets and even lower number of spills, she claims that a joint operation with Canterbury and Southland district cops will be undertaken. Sigh! We'll see.

Mike told me that he hasn't yet made a decision about a 2013 TT2000. That decision won't be influenced by Jenni's comments or actions.

[_Shrek_]

Mike told me that he hasn't yet made a decision about a 2013 TT2000. That decision won't be influenced by Jenni's comments or actions.

well thats good to hear :niceone: on the up side with Jenni's comments alot of people that didn't know about the TT do now :laugh: & will be attending next years TT (if it's on of course) along with the rest of us who never got their A's into G for this one :corn:

[Berries]

well thats good to hear :niceone: on the up side with Jenni's comments alot of people that didn't know about the TT do now :laugh: & will be attending next years TT (if it's on of course) along with the rest of us who never got their A's into G for this one :corn:
I tend to agree with that. All that 'bad' publicity will mean more people will want to take part next year which I am sure will change the tone of the whole event. Not sure whether the organisers will want that or not.

[FJRider]

I tend to agree with that. All that 'bad' publicity will mean more people will want to take part next year which I am sure will change the tone of the whole event. Not sure whether the organisers will want that or not.

Increased numbers participating ... means more likelyhood of an "off" on the weekend ... thus proving we are a danger to ourselves and need protecting. For our own good

[_Shrek_]

I tend to agree with that. All that 'bad' publicity will mean more people will want to take part next year which I am sure will change the tone of the whole event. Not sure whether the organisers will want that or not.

aye may be true on some points but on the hole, I think those that will do it, will be in it for the challenge

[scumdog]

Over-reaction? Wait till next year. Despite the TT's year by year success and very low numbers of tickets and even lower number of spills, she claims that a joint operation with Canterbury and Southland district cops will be undertaken. Sigh! We'll see.



That is sad.

On that basis alone I might be tempted to give it a whirl..

[Berries]

On that basis alone I might be tempted to give it a whirl..
On the basis that this week the wife came out directly and said I shouldn't have a motorbike I'm in as well.

[scumdog]

On the basis that this week the wife came out directly and said I shouldn't have a motorbike I'm in as well.

Woo-ferkin'-hoo!

TWO incompetents in the one event.

Choice!:clap:

[Muppet]

On the basis that this week the wife came out directly and said I shouldn't have a motorbike I'm in as well.

Jesus I laughed my ass off when I read that!:killingme My wife wouldn't let me sell my bike because, as she put it "you'll just whinge and moan that you don't have a bike and I can't take it!".

Why don't you tell her she shouldn't have any shoes, same difference.

[Jantar]

....Over-reaction? Wait till next year. Despite the TT's year by year success and very low numbers of tickets and even lower number of spills, she claims that a joint operation with Canterbury and Southland district cops will be undertaken. Sigh! We'll see.....


That is sad.

On that basis alone I might be tempted to give it a whirl..

So how about doing the ride in your official capacity? If you and Snake Eyes were to volunteer to assist Rastuscat to patrol the route on Police bikes, we could have an offical police presence ensuring the ride is safe. :devil2:

[scumdog]

So how about doing the ride in your official capacity? If you and Snake Eyes were to volunteer to assist Rastuscat to patrol the route on Police bikes, we could have an offical police presence ensuring the ride is safe. :devil2:

If I get POLICE stickers for me HD will that count???:lol:

[kiwi cowboy]

honda riders :facepalm:

Having just aquired one all i say is :buggerd: opps how did that get there i meant:motu:

[Berries]

Why don't you tell her she shouldn't have any shoes, same difference.
I thought they gave up all that clothing nonsense when they got married? Shoes?

FFS. I need a new front tyre.

[tigertim20]

I spoke to Jenni at some length, yesterday, and despite my best arguments she believes that fatigue and speed are likely to complete the course in the time allowed. Of course, we know that's not true, but her belief is firm. I asked how many speeding tickets were issued to TT riders, and she said "very few" (anecdotally, it's about 3) in the 230,000 km that the riders covered. Three quarters of the riders covered just the minumum 2000 km without getting sufficient points for the various grades of awards. No crashes were reported to her. In other words, the results as far as attracting the law's attention goes are consistent with the past three events. She did bring up the matter of Nolan Going's fatal crash in 2010, but given that she hadn't (as of yesterday) read either the SCU or Coroner's reports, this is a red herring. The coroner concluded that the death was a tragic accident. Jenni did say, however, that the riders behaved and she was pleased with the outcome.

Cheers,
Dave B

whats her postal address? I might send her a cloth to wipe all that cum off her face

[_Shrek_]

That is sad.

On that basis alone I might be tempted to give it a whirl..


On the basis that this week the wife came out directly and said I shouldn't have a motorbike I'm in as well.

well there goes the neighbour hood :weep:


I am sure will change the tone of the whole event. Not sure whether the organisers will want that or not.


Woo-ferkin'-hoo! TWO incompetents in the one event. Choice!:clap:

I guess you both answered that one :nya:


So how about doing the ride in your official capacity? If you and Snake Eyes were to volunteer to assist Rastuscat to patrol the route on Police bikes, we could have an offical police presence ensuring the ride is safe. :devil2:

:thud: what next having jenny join in :brick:


If I get POLICE stickers for me HD will that count???:lol:

:shifty: only if you let me fit the lights :wacko:

[Muppet]

I thought they gave up all that clothing nonsense when they got married? Shoes?

FFS. I need a new front tyre.

Sadly, no, it just gets worse.

[_Shrek_]

Sadly, no, it just gets worse.

not unless you get them a bike too :whistle:

[veldthui]

I did this ride for the first time. I saw 2 cops the whole time. One cruising past who made no attempt to stop me. The other on the way home when I was on the side of the road with a flatty and he just went straight past with no interest in helping even though it was the middle of nowhere. I did 2038kms in the 48hrs and had 8 hrs sleep each night. This was certainly not a race for me but was for the enjoyment of seeing the South Island and meeting others with the same idea and being able to travel in a group with them.
Personally I like long distance travel and 12 hours in the seat means nothing to me. I take the breaks I need and if I get tired I stop.

[Gremlin]

Yep, I completed Diamond. Mike adding the extra 4 hours in meant I slacked off more, mucked around on the Saturday night instead of going to bed etc. Still catching up on blogs, but all the info will be in the KB blogs. I did about 3147km in 51.75 hours ish (didn't stop Friday night, stopped Saturday night).


it would be too bloody easy for him Keith, he would be on the second round before most got half way
I dunno, he ain't riding like he used to. I now have fun making him jealous :nya:

Saw very few cops during the weekend (none in Hakataramea Pass or Danseys Pass funnily enough), and the few I did see were out hunting, and none stopped me. Us BMW riders are quite responsible doncha know. ;)

However, I came across Harleys in the Upper Buller, and their lines were atrocious and going slowly. If this is the kind of standard she possibly rides at, then I can fully understand why she might be horrified. We however ride far better :lol: I'm quite happy to offer the pillion seat to a cute cop chicky for next years TT (assuming it goes ahead), basic route of 2000km, to prove how easily it can be done. However, I fear they might slow me down constantly wanting to stop...

I was stopping every 400-500km, sometimes less, to eat, drink (or drink while passing through town on a hydrabak) and a toilet stop... I've achieved Diamond this year, miiiiight look at Gold next year to complete a silver, gold, diamond collection, but will probably do basic so I can start enjoying all the good roads, taking long lunches etc

[Shadowjack]

However, I came across Harleys in the Upper Buller, and their lines were atrocious and going slowly. If this is the kind of standard she possibly rides at, then I can fully understand why she might be horrified. We however ride far better :lol:
Was that on Sunday?
I ask because a workmate had been in the Nelson area for the weekend, and explained to me that on Sunday they drove back to Chch. From just north of the Kawatiri Junction, they were forced to follow a group of HD's through to Murchison. The group had a support vehicle, and combined with spacing between the bikes which would not allow safe overtaking even though the bikes were travelling at 75-80 kmh, caused them quite the frustration :mad:.
I explained that, as you say, TT2000'rs would be riding far betterer.

[pritch]

Personally I like long distance travel and 12 hours in the seat means nothing to me. I take the breaks I need and if I get tired I stop.

When I read that I thought you must ride a BMW - until I checked... :innocent:

[Gremlin]

Was that on Sunday?
I ask because a workmate had been in the Nelson area for the weekend, and explained to me that on Sunday they drove back to Chch. From just north of the Kawatiri Junction, they were forced to follow a group of HD's through to Murchison. The group had a support vehicle, and combined with spacing between the bikes which would not allow safe overtaking even though the bikes were travelling at 75-80 kmh, caused them quite the frustration :mad:.
I explained that, as you say, TT2000'rs would be riding far betterer.
Yes, early Sunday, around 8-9am I think. I understand the HOG rally was on somewhere in the South Island, the group I had was 7 in front, then 8 behind, and don't recall a support vehicle, however, there were also other groups.

[NiggleC]

Has Mike sent out a results email yet? I cruised round for a Bronze - got 7300 points and then stopped taking photo's. Total distance 2140km's. Forgot the Burkes Pass sheet and took a photo of the cemetery, not the church which i believe was the correct spot so most likely now 7200 points.

[Rhubarb]

Has Mike sent out a results email yet?.

Yes - I received my results email late in the week.

(Sorry, it's on my work computer otherwise I'd offer to forward them to you today)

[NiggleC]

Yes - I received my results email late in the week.

(Sorry, it's on my work computer otherwise I'd offer to forward them to you today)


Thanks Rhubarb - if you get the opportunity that would be great. I don't have an email addy for Mike.

[Gremlin]

info (at) tt2000 (dot) org (so the evil spiders don't get it)

I think Mike sends out specific emails to sub groups, ie, 2000km riders don't get the flyer stuff etc, keeps results a bit more private.

[veldthui]

info (at) tt2000 (dot) org (so the evil spiders don't get it)

I think Mike sends out specific emails to sub groups, ie, 2000km riders don't get the flyer stuff etc, keeps results a bit more private.

I got an e-mail with all the scoring in it. One pdf file and one excel in case you wanted to experiment with the numbers.

[gijoe1313]

I dunno, he ain't riding like he used to. I now have fun making him jealous :nya:



Yes, keep thinking that ... :devil2: And yet, who seems to always find the time to help you re-assemble and place new lekky things into your crate o'trouble? :whistle:

Oh btw people, if you know of a suitable girl who can anchor gremlin down, his mother would be thankful! :whistle:

[_Shrek_]

Oh btw people, if you know of a suitable girl who can anchor gremlin down, his mother would be thankful! :whistle:

so you've found one then :innocent: pot calling the kettle black :whistle:

[Jantar]

Yes, keep thinking that ... :devil2: And yet, who seems to always find the time to help you re-assemble and place new lekky things into your crate o'trouble? :whistle:

Oh btw people, if you know of a suitable girl who can anchor gremlin down, his mother would be thankful! :whistle:

It just so happens that I do know a good looking 32 yr old female who is unattached. The only thing is she'd want to join in rather than anchor him down. :lol:

[Gremlin]

so you've found one then :innocent: pot calling the kettle black :whistle:
I know... I thought pigs might fly first, and his mama was beside herself with despair... but the pigs ain't flying and the deal will be sealed early next year. :eek5: His mama, well, she's happy :niceone:

Meanwhile, I'll just keep on riding :ride:

[_Shrek_]

I know... I thought pigs might fly first, and his mama was beside herself with despair... but the pigs ain't flying and the deal will be sealed early next year. :eek5: His mama, well, she's happy :niceone:

:thud: well I never :laugh:

:clap: sincere congats there to gijoe from the Shreks :first:


Meanwhile, I'll just keep on riding :ride:

make the most of it coz it wont be long before she reals you in :calm:

Ps :Oops: :Offtopic: sorry Mods

[gijoe1313]

Actually, with all this talk of long distance touring, my +1 is actually entertaining the idea of going on a "long" tour ride on the bike. To Wellywood ... ( this is but a short ride to me :sweatdrop ) trying to convince her that doing a TT is in line with keeping my riding skills up! :innocent:

[Pumpkin Pie]

I haven't done the Southern Cross or the TT, yet, but they are defintely on the to-do list. Time to to ditch the 2-stroke I think!

[banditrider]

Badge received :2thumbsup

[Shadowjack]

Fridge magnets! are in place:clap:

[LBD]

Badge recieved tropy ordered, luggage packed and ready to fly....12 months until the next TT....hoohum

Was funny to bump ino Gremlin at Knights point....that was exactly the 1/2 way mark for me and he was riding he opoaite direction.

So who went into the patarau river check point?

[Gremlin]

Was funny to bump ino Gremlin at Knights point....that was exactly the 1/2 way mark for me and he was riding he opoaite direction.

So who went into the patarau river check point?
Well, we were half way round eh? Definitely funny seeing you and saying "Fancy seeing you here!"

I believe DRL did Patarau... hindsight being perfect thinks there were the odd choices that were better :lol:

[LBD]

Well, we were half way round eh? Definitely funny seeing you and saying "Fancy seeing you here!"

I believe DRL did Patarau... hindsight being perfect thinks there were the odd choices that were better :lol:

I went in to Patarau and I heard of one other, maybe DRL. It was just starting to get light as I got back to Takaka.

What odd choices are you refering to?

[Gremlin]

What odd choices are you refering to?
He did a blog on it... but apparently he didn't enjoy the gravel of Patarau on his tourer... :lol:

[LBD]

"Tourer" in no way describes a bike I would take into Patarau River

[cooneyr]

Been reading this thread since its inception and my little rant about our friend in blue and cant help but think - damn I wish I still had my KTM 950 Adv in the shed. Plan for this year - aquire another adv tourer. A KTM EXC for 2000km of mainly road riding would not at all be plesant!

[LBD]

Been reading this thread since its inception and my little rant about our friend in blue and cant help but think - damn I wish I still had my KTM 950 Adv in the shed. Plan for this year - aquire another adv tourer. A KTM EXC for 2000km of mainly road riding would not at all be plesant!

I think a KTM950 Adv would be jst the ticket for the TT... see you next year.

DRL's Blog was pretty neat, but he did not go into the Patarau river.....

[banditrider]

Slideshow from organisers:

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[pete376403]

Is the blue T shirt to prove the validity of the photos? If so, the harley rider at 7:35 is cheating

[LBD]

Is the blue T shirt to prove the validity of the photos? If so, the harley rider at 7:35 is cheating

Same could be said of the chick at 5.49.... wonder what was going through her mind.

Regarding Patarau river, I see a ZX14 went in there...brave man that...