Max Biaggi

[steveyb]

He has always been my hero....

http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/video/176995/1/max_biaggi_past_present_and_future.html

[roadracingoldfart]

He has always been my hero....

http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/video/176995/1/max_biaggi_past_present_and_future.html

Him and Chilli are my idols Steve.
I always said that Foggy's eyes were focused and set but they were never easy to read almost just fixated ,
Max has an eye set that just screams , "i am focused and racing my bike is why i am here"
Its just one of those things i notice about him.
Thats a great video too by the way , thanks for sharing it.

Paul.

[husaberg]

He has always been my hero....

http://www.crash.net/world+superbikes/video/176995/1/max_biaggi_past_present_and_future.html

Yeah great rider there is no denying that. but hero?


but I was with Benson and the team at Cowes one year having diner on the corner, where Max had a new "girlfriend" that night.The next night the same "person" was on his lap,as a man.
Tell his new wife that one, and see if the bulge in the back of his pants is stronger than the one in front.

Now that i have insulted your Hero.
What parts do you have available to suit my RS chassis that i am hacking up for a bucket.
i see a few bits on Ebay which i guess are yours?

Don't worry about the frame as it has already been thoroughly molested before i got it.:innocent:

PS Chili was a amazing rider. His performance on the Cagiva 500 after the bike officially retired. Not bad considering the bike hadn't be touched for a year and he hadn't raced a 500 for probably 6 years. , but qualifies on the front row 3rd but unfortunately runs out of track and finishes 6th.

[steveyb]

1st, 2nd Phillip Island 2012. That's what I'm talkin 'bout!!

Oh, and if insinuating that a person is gay is supposed to be an insult, I hope you have fun living in the 18th century :psst:

If 'wobbly' is the 'wobbly' I know, I would be careful with his stories, his memory is about as reliable as his 100m sprint time!! :apint:

I don't have any chassis stuff around I don't think. Maybe a seat unit I could part with, but there are plenty of other ones around the place that would be better on a bucket.

[husaberg]

1st, 2nd Phillip Island 2012. That's what I'm talkin 'bout!!

Oh, and if insinuating that a person is gay is supposed to be an insult, I hope you have fun living in the 18th century :psst:

If 'wobbly' is the 'wobbly' I know, I would be careful with his stories, his memory is about as reliable as his 100m sprint time!! :apint:

I don't have any chassis stuff around I don't think. Maybe a seat unit I could part with, but there are plenty of other ones around the place that would be better on a bucket.
No its not an issue to me if he is Gay Straight,bisexual, or even Beastisexual or all of the above but have you read any of the stuff he (Max) has wrote about himself (there is a lot). Its seems to be his favorite topic in fact, but he seems to leave a lot of stuff out that doesn't suit his own idea of his image. There is a word for that. if you reread the bit i quoted it might become apparent on the second reread.

Also talk to anyone who was with Aprilia arround that time and ask them to say some nice things about Max the person. Then wait for the silence......

On a more cheerful note, the test rider was Marcellino Lucchi. His day job was driving the garbage truck in his home village, but whenever Aprilia needed him he made sure he was available to ride Biaggi's works bike. When Biaggi went on to ride the works Honda NSR500, the Aprilia test team had a good day in Jerez each time Lucchi was faster on the 250 than Biaggi was on the 500 (Jerez is that kind of track, and Lucchi could beat anybody there blindfolded. And superstar Biaggi had always been less-than-popular with the Aprilia mechanics).
Once a year Lucchi got a wild card and was allowed to take part in a real Grand Prix, at his home track Mugello. He usually grabbed third place, always the oldest man on the rostrum (he was well in his fourties then). Great character!
And yes i reckon i could take Wob in a sprint too..

unrelated but have you ever found another Honda caliper that works on an RS rear maybe.. like a scooter front one?

[sil3nt]

When i first started watching bike racing i picked Biaggi as the guy to support. He never seemed to give up always fighting to the end. Then i realised what an arrogant asshole he really is.

Watching race 2 in the superbikes today showed why I used to love him.

[Marmoot]

He has always been my hero....

You should watch Faster on DVD.
That would get you started.

[cs363]

What an arrogant asshole he really is.

x 2


Watching race 2 in the superbikes today showed why I used to love him.

Definitely talented though, and together with a very fast bike, almost unbeatable. Looks like Senor Checa has his work cut out.

[RobGassit]

Max is not arrogant or an arsehole. He is however, a multiple world champion.:motu:

[steveyb]

As far as I can recall the NSR and early CBR ones are the same, just slighly different mounts.

I get the arrogance thing re: Max, but I am also convinced that that perception is due to two things:
1) As he said himself, when he is at the track he becomes a different person. He is there to race and that is that. Sometimes I guess that will not come across well to some people, other times it will be taken as someone being 'focussed' and people will just get on with it.
2)Kiwi dislike of, or inability to deal with, arrogance. Kiwis very often say how they dislike the French because they are arrogant. I love the French and France and would live there again in a heartbeat if I could get the stars aligned that way. Different strokes for different folks I guess. If more Kiwis were a bit more arrogant then maybe they would get a bit further in life.

That coming together between Rossi and Biaggi was as much Rossis doing as anyones. Anyone duffing him up in the press as much as he did to others soon felt the heat of his chagrin, so he can't take it anymore than anyone else can. The do between Biaggi and Melandri was somewhat distasteful and not flash, but if we see two Rugby or League players doing the same thing we cheer them on and then say it is all just part of the game. What makes racing any different?

Anyway, not everyones cup of tea, but I would have pasta with him.

Vai Max, due tempi campione del mondo della Superbike, 2010, 2012!!

Choice!!!!

[husaberg]

As far as I can recall the NSR and early CBR ones are the same, just slighly different mounts.

I get the arrogance thing re: Max, but I am also convinced that that perception is due to two things:
1) As he said himself, when he is at the track he becomes a different person. He is there to race and that is that. Sometimes I guess that will not come across well to some people, other times it will be taken as someone being 'focussed' and people will just get on with it.
2)Kiwi dislike of, or inability to deal with, arrogance. Kiwis very often say how they dislike the French because they are arrogant. I love the French and France and would live there again in a heartbeat if I could get the stars aligned that way. Different strokes for different folks I guess. If more Kiwis were a bit more arrogant then maybe they would get a bit further in life.

That coming together between Rossi and Biaggi was as much Rossis doing as anyones. Anyone duffing him up in the press as much as he did to others soon felt the heat of his chagrin, so he can't take it anymore than anyone else can. The do between Biaggi and Melandri was somewhat distasteful and not flash, but if we see two Rugby or League players doing the same thing we cheer them on and then say it is all just part of the game. What makes racing any different?

Anyway, not everyones cup of tea, but I would have pasta with him.

Vai Max, due tempi campione del mondo della Superbike, 2010, 2012!!

Choice!!!!

The rear caliper i was meaning sorry i guess you mean the front?

I can respect his talent for sure but there is no way i could call him a hero.
You missed Max and Doohan as well.

They all have one person in common like a theme.

Same goes for league and any other sporting star.
Star yes Hero not necessarily. They have to earn that through there actions of the field.

Point about Rossi is interesting if i could find it i will post it is is an account by a bystander of what Max allegedly said to Rossi when he first arrived at GP Racing.

It went along the lines of Keep of my way their is only room for one Italian star in GP Racing and that's me and walked off.

[steveyb]

Yep, meant the rear one. I think you might find that they are the same ones, certainly the same as the NF4, but have different mounts.
The NX4 one is smaller but I am sure that they will have used it on roadbikes too.
The NX4 one is actually the same as the NF5 (1987-1992 RS250), NF5 part number.

If a hero needs to be perfect and have no flaws, or even just be everyones mate, then there are no heroes.
All of the stories in the press will be inflated, or indeed made up altogether. I have seen that for a fact, so I know it goes on.
Bet you that there are dozens of stories about set to's and character clashes between all sorts of other riders too.
I know Wayne Gardner used to rub people up the wrong way, and Aaron Slight sometimes, not to mention Fogarty.

For all those top riders to have run ins with Biaggi at least says that he was/is up at their level of racing skill and achievement.

I admire him for his skill, his resiliance, his unwillingness to bend to others wills and his ability to remain true to himself. If that meant dealing with shit in his way, so be it. He is not there to make mates, but to win bike races. I think people also lose sight of that and think that everyone in the paddock should be all buddy buddy nicey nicey. I don't think that is the best way to approach racing at the top levels. A certain distance and aloofness can be helpful to maintaining an edge.

[Liebig]

More important though - where did Maxie enter the track again t'day after his 200 kph run-on at turn one?

Swedish commentators said he only lost 8 s in the incident. Couldn't flukkin believe how quickly he came back! Did he run on and come back at turn 3 rather than back at turn 1?

Boy, o'boy does that Aprilia fly down the straights. And flukkin perfectly set-up when looking at how it just hooked up without twitchin coming out of the last turn onto the big straight!

[husaberg]

If a hero needs to be perfect and have no flaws, or even just be everyones mate, then there are no heroes.
All of the stories in the press will be inflated, or indeed made up altogether. I have seen that for a fact, so I know it goes on.
Bet you that there are dozens of stories about set to's and character clashes between all sorts of other riders too.
I know Wayne Gardner used to rub people up the wrong way, and Aaron Slight sometimes, not to mention Fogarty.

For all those top riders to have run ins with Biaggi at least says that he was/is up at their level of racing skill and achievement.

I admire him for his skill, his resiliance, his unwillingness to bend to others wills and his ability to remain true to himself. If that meant dealing with shit in his way, so be it. He is not there to make mates, but to win bike races. I think people also lose sight of that and think that everyone in the paddock should be all buddy buddy nicey nicey. I don't think that is the best way to approach racing at the top levels. A certain distance and aloofness can be helpful to maintaining an edge.

Granted but why is is always used as an excuse there are plenty of top races world champions that don't have his reputation. Why was is always Max involved.
Yes stories are exaggerated but generally have a basis in truth. Look the Guy can certainly ride a bike, but i would like to think a hero is a role model with how they treat people and there behavior off the track. There is not a lot of stuff written about max that illustrates that. A few charity soccer matches aside.
I think though it is best to agree to disagree about Max. I doubt either of our opinions really matter anyway.. After he retires it will be interesting to see how he is judged though.

Ps Don't even get me started about Foggy.
PPS you forgot Kockinski as an example of interesting behavior.

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Yep, meant the rear one. I think you might find that they are the same ones, certainly the same as the NF4, but have different mounts.
The NX4 one is smaller but I am sure that they will have used it on roadbikes too.
The NX4 one is actually the same as the NF5 (1987-1992 RS250), NF5 part number.

Yeah i found a scooter that shared brake pads and pistons so i assume it shares the body and knowing Honda the caliper will be a production one.
Bloody honda don't list a part number for the caliper body though.
I just thought see as you played with them a lot, you might have a secret or two.

[Crasherfromwayback]

1st, 2nd Phillip Island 2012. That's what I'm talkin 'bout!!

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Starting from dead last after running off track and finishing 2nd is a great effort. Unfortunately though...it doesn't say much for the rest of the field. Bit like Haslam finishing 5th with a freshly broken leg.


Max is not arrogant or an arsehole. He is however, a multiple world champion.:motu:

Seems he's all of the above.

[Shaun]

Starting from dead last after running off track and finishing 2nd is a great effort. Unfortunately though...it doesn't say much for the rest of the field. Bit like Haslam finishing 5th with a freshly broken leg.




well said mr exsperienced one

[pritch]

Max is not arrogant or an arsehole. He is however, a multiple world champion.:motu:

Those things are not mutually exclusive, he could be all three.

He is a brilliant rider on his day, and yesterday was definitely his day.

[DidJit]

A bit off-topic, but regarding Mr Haslam and his freshly screwed break, one Alex Barros had this to say during Saturday's QP:

@alexbarrosrider (Alexandre Barros)

@realleonhaslam congratulations you have really big balls, continue with this spirit and determination, so the true champions are born

As mean a feat as Biaggi's last-to-2nd race was, I think Haslam showed a tremendous amount of guts just being out there. Laverty too. And, yes, Biaggi — what a fuggin' great ride in Race 2!

[Mental Trousers]

Starting from dead last after running off track and finishing 2nd is a great effort. Unfortunately though...it doesn't say much for the rest of the field. Bit like Haslam finishing 5th with a freshly broken leg.

Right guy on the right bike. I couldn't believe how much drive that thing had. He smoked everything on the straights. The Suzuki, the Honda's and most impressive, the BMW's.

Interestingly, the other ART bike with Laverty (injured but so was Leon Haslam) wasn't able to keep up. So that tends to point to the rider and bike being very in tune.

No doubt he's a very, very talented rider. Shame he isn't as likeable as others.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Right guy on the right bike. I couldn't believe how much drive that thing had. He smoked everything on the straights. The Suzuki, the Honda's and most impressive, the BMW's.

Interestingly, the other ART bike with Laverty (injured but so was Leon Haslam) wasn't able to keep up. So that tends to point to the rider and bike being very in tune.

No doubt he's a very, very talented rider. Shame he isn't as likeable as others.

Think he may've knicked the engine out of the CRT Aprillia mate.

Talented for sure. But I stand by my two comments. The field in WSB looks to be sucking a bit. Haslam that badly smashed up can still get a 5th?

[Edbear]

well said mr exsperienced one

Gidday, mate! You back home yet? :Offtopic:

I always reckoned the only thing worse than someone who is arrogant is that they are actually very good at what they do as well. Makes it harder to criticise them. :Playnice:

[cc rider]

It was well worth walking... standing... sitting.. lying... melting at the track for.
Max & Carlos showed the rest of the young pups alright. It does make you wonder about the level of ability, talent that the Superbikes have this year if these two old Masters can steal the show.

I've met both Max & Carlos a couple times over the years & luckily any "personality' traits were left on the track. So yeah... I'm a fan. :bleh:

[Crasherfromwayback]

It was well worth walking... standing... sitting.. lying... melting at the track for.
Max & Carlos showed the rest of the young pups alright. It does make you wonder about the level of ability, talent that the Superbikes have this year if these two old Masters can steal the show.

I've met both Max & Carlos a couple times over the years & luckily any "personality' traits were left on the track. So yeah... I'm a fan. :bleh:

Yeah some people wank on about Superbikes vs Moto GP, but to me it's no different talent wise. A few fast guys up front followed by people in a diff league.

[Shaun]

Gidday, mate! You back home yet? :Offtopic:

I always reckoned the only thing worse than someone who is arrogant is that they are actually very good at what they do as well. Makes it harder to criticise them. :Playnice:




No Ed, but would be the minute I had a job there mate

[carbonhed]

Think he may've knicked the engine out of the CRT Aprillia mate.

Talented for sure. But I stand by my two comments. The field in WSB looks to be sucking a bit. Haslam that badly smashed up can still get a 5th?

Wasn't Phillip island supposed to be not an RSV4 friendly track last year? If that's the case I think we've just seen the championship winning machine... by a country fuckin mile. Ducati are already whining.

It'll be interesting to see if Laverty can keep the old geezer honest. He didn't do too badly last year with Melandri.

The Beemer still looks like it wants to tie itself into a knot at the slightest excuse. Melandri and Haslam are a strong team though.

Kwaka looked promising but Sykes isn't top drawer by any means.

Like Jonny Rae on the Honda. He'll win a few races but can't see the bike being capable of winning the championship. Aoyama with two top tens first time out didn't disgrace himself.

Hope Biaggi doesn't just romp away with it... easily bored... didn't like it with Checa last year.

[RobGassit]

Regardless of how old they may be, Carlos and Max are as fast now as they ever were. It's up to the SBK guy's to step up and try to be as fast as these two masters. I think it's great they are there as a bench mark. How fast are the Superbike guy's if they can't beat two old farts who have been considering retirement.
In regards to personality, I've met Max several times and found him to be humble and considered. He is as delightful to chat to as Carlos, who nobody evercomplains about.
As far as Max and Carlos leading a procession this year, both had near crippling incidents happen to them at the first round, and luckily they got away with it. Anything could happen this year, which is why sport is such a great drama.
If you want to talk about boring, Motogp CRT may have what your talking about.