Lawless and the Greenpeace protest

[scott411]

not to sure why the ship does not just start its way to the Artic, they will get cold and want to get off eventually,
either that or turn the hoses on them, might as well make it as uncomfortable as possible,

[nzspokes]

Ship isnt going anywhere, dock workers are on strike.:facepalm:

[Maha]

She needs oil just like eveyone else in the world does.
I suppose she uses it in her car?

[cs363]

Ship isnt going anywhere, dock workers are on strike.:facepalm:

Not in New Plymouth.... :facepalm:

[nzspokes]

Not in New Plymouth.... :facepalm:

Yet.:shit:

[cs363]

not to sure why the ship does not just start its way to the Artic, they will get cold and want to get off eventually,
either that or turn the hoses on them, might as well make it as uncomfortable as possible,

Hmmm...that thought had occurred to me too Scott :cool: (KB needs an evil genius smiley!)

[Scuba_Steve]

The ship just needs to make a stand...

http://4funz.com/Funny-Pictures/random/img-tits-or-get-the-fuck-out-86

[scott411]

Hmmm...that thought had occurred to me too Scott :cool: (KB needs an evil genius smiley!)

your close enough, get down there and sort it out, she would make not a bad entry in a wet t shirt contest

[scott411]

She needs oil just like eveyone else in the world does.
I suppose she uses it in her car?

bet they all drove down there in a car as well,

[cs363]

your close enough, get down there and sort it out, she would make not a bad entry in a wet t shirt contest

Fucking hard to get in the port, dunno how the hell they managed it. Anyway, the sun is out so I've got better things to do with my time - nearly all of them involve burning copious amounts of fossil fuel...


bet they all drove down there in a car as well,

And they hired a helicopter to film their pathetically small banners.... :facepalm:

Edit: Here's the link - note the tag 'vision supplied by Greenpeace' fucking hypocrites! http://www.stuff.co.nz/lightbox/sony-iptv/national/6475265/Lawless-boards-Shell-oil-drilling-ship?KeepThis=true

[BMWST?]

bet they all drove down there in a car as well,

my thoughts as well,hypocrites

[Woodman]

Good on her for protesting about something she feels passionate enough to protest about.

[Maha]

Good on her for protesting about something she feels passionate enough to protest about.

Just like the bikers did with the Bikeoi you mean?....:corn:
Probably end up with the same result...:facepalm:

[puddytat]

Good on Ya Greenpeace, atleast they have the strength of their convictions unlike a third of the population who just whinge.

[onearmedbandit]

Good on Ya Greenpeace, atleast they have the strength of their convictions unlike a third of the population who just whinge.

Do they realise just how much they too are consumers of our natural resources???

[Indiana_Jones]

No issue with anyone having a protest on something they feel strongly about.

But I can't help but laugh when you see the old Champagne socialists saying "Oh yes drillnig for oil is bad, we shouldn't allow it", finish off their latte with soy milk and get in their Range Rover.......:scooter:

-Indy

[onearmedbandit]

No issue with anyone having a protest on something they feel strongly about.

But I can't help but laugh when you see the old Champagne socialists saying "Oh yes drillnig for oil is bad, we shouldn't allow it", finish off their latte with soy milk and get in their Range Rover.......:scooter:

-Indy

Why highlight Range Rovers? Nearly every car uses plastic etc, these products are made from oil based products. In fact a lot of high end vehicles have more 'natural' products in them then cheaper vehicles with man made materials. We all use plastic every day, including the most staunchest 'greenie'. It's oh so easy to blame the guy in his BMW/Merc/Audi/RR but not so easy to accept that we all are abusers of natural resources. God the human race is a fucking joke.

[Indiana_Jones]

Why highlight Range Rovers? Nearly every car uses plastic etc, these products are made from oil based products. In fact a lot of high end vehicles have more 'natural' products in them then cheaper vehicles with man made materials. We all use plastic every day, including the most staunchest 'greenie'. It's oh so easy to blame the guy in his BMW/Merc/Audi/RR but not so easy to accept that we all are abusers of natural resources. God the human race is a fucking joke.

I wasn't using that make in the context. It's just a generic Yuppies car, feel free to insert Audi, Mercedes-Benz, Jaguar, Aston Martin in it's place.

I don't blame the guy in whatever car, we all enjoy the benefits we get from the resources, but some people insist we feel bad about doing so.

-Indy

[onearmedbandit]

I wasn't using that make in the context. It's just a generic Yuppies car, feel free to insert Audi, Mercedes-Benz, Jaguar, Aston Martin in it's place.

I don't blame the guy in whatever car, we all enjoy the benefits we get from the resources, but some people insist we feel bad about doing so.

-Indy

I did. So why should the guy who worked hard and made it be pointed out still? Don't you get what I'm saying Indy? We're all as bad as each other. Sure he may drive a 'yuppie' car but at home he may have a fantastic recycling system, use only organic products and limit wastage. He may have also implemented the same at the company he owns. But nah fuck that, lets criticise him because of the car he drives. Yup, that's all we need to know. Even if he doesn't, do you live your life in a way that doesn't damage the eco-system?

[Indiana_Jones]

I did. So why should the guy who worked hard and made it be pointed out still? Don't you get what I'm saying Indy? We're all as bad as each other. Sure he may drive a 'yuppie' car but at home he may have a fantastic recycling system, use only organic products and limit wastage. He may have also implemented the same at the company he owns. But nah fuck that, lets criticise him because of the car he drives. Yup, that's all we need to know. Even if he doesn't, do you live your life in a way that doesn't damage the eco-system?

I never said they were any worse than you and I

I'm shitting on the planet just as much as anyone else, maybe worse than Mr. Range Rover as I have zero emission controls on my cage...

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly2gcl6xQC1qd3j3go1_500.png

Edit: Also I guess my use of yuppies was because you normally get celebrities promoting certain things, like solar panels on roofs and some other sort of eco thing that no doubt costs a packet of money, it's very well and easy for them to say that as they can afford it, but not everyone can and to make us feel guilty of that is BS. Please note I have nothing against people who have money, respect in most causes for people who have made it themselves. Not a huge fan of 'old money' though.

-Indy

[onearmedbandit]

I never said they were any worse than you and I



-Indy

So why do you laugh when you see what you described in your original post?

[puddytat]

Do they realise just how much they too are consumers of our natural resources???

I think that more than the average "Joe' they are well aware of their own dependency on oil & its by-products,and are simply trying to make us aware that we need to think ahead.I think the crux of the matter is the ease at which the oil industry will throw billions of dollars at exploration & the lobbyig of Govts to get the O.K to drill & explore within critical & pristine enviroments. Yet they play only lip service to the idea of alternatives & the enviroment or simply pay the fines .
Imagine....if the Seven Sisters spent their yearly exploration budgets on alternatives.We'd not only solve problems a lot quicker but they would paint themselves a rosier shade.
To Quote BPs' spin "Beyond Petroleum"....? What? Beyond profit?...Beyond precept? Beyond pollution? Beyond prevaricating? Beyond pretense? Beyond problem.

[onearmedbandit]

Don't hate the players, hate the game. And the game is greed, something most of us are well-versed in.

[Indiana_Jones]

So why do you laugh when you see what you described in your original post?

Because champagne socialists are knobs?

-Indy

[Scuba_Steve]

I think the crux of the matter is the ease at which the oil industry will throw billions of dollars at exploration & the lobbyig of Govts to get the O.K to drill & explore within critical & pristine enviroments. Yet they play only lip service to the idea of alternatives & the enviroment or simply pay the fines .

See I think Govts are the problem, we need oil like it or hate it for a while yet we're gonna be dependent on it. So the Govts need to grow some balls & stop taking backhanders and change the approval for exploration & drilling, it should come with a hefty agreement,
"should something go wrong the company has 1 week to sort it out/clear it up. If the company fails to do so the Govt steps in & throws everything at saving the environment with costs going to the oil company" None of this 'allowing them to try to save profits' like in the Gulf.
They fuck up they wear the costs & it will be sorted immediately, if that means they have to permanently seal off the oil so be it environment comes first, if the cost of the clean-up sends them bankrupt so be it the environment comes first.

Well thats my opinion anyways. Hassling the oil companies won't do anything, they should be hassling the Govt to put hefty conditions on the agreements

[Indiana_Jones]

Makes sense to me.

-Indy

[puddytat]

Makes sense to me too!! We need to hassle them, both the Govts & the Cartels though it can be hard to tell them apart.


Its hard to be labelled a champagne socialist just because your a conservationist. Im a Hippie & I cant afford any champagne. But Im handy at growing the ingredients.:yes:

[scissorhands]

Second car's could be electric 3 wheel 2 seater 250kg bubble commuter specials, cleaner air for kids going to school too

Town bikes could be 150Nm torque dragsters from hell with 100km distance, quicker accelerating automatic transmission and faster than most gas bikes. Or, 2kw commuter cubs with 1200mpg economy

And those who want to go to the track with benzine can if they want.

Thats what I would want. Charge 'em at home

[mashman]

Nah, it's all a guilt trip... these hypocritical fuckers have absolutely no idea of what oil is used for... best just shoot them and get on with the game.



Well thats my opinion anyways. Hassling the oil companies won't do anything, they should be hassling the Govt to put hefty conditions on the agreements


They've been doing that since before I was born. It isn't working, go figure! I shall say it again. Until you remove the profit motive you will achieve nothing. The focus is on making money at any cost to feed an ever growing market. They may well research new technologies and indeed some of the greener options will require the use of oil to build, but once built they will eventually pay for themselves. They may not be perfect, but if it alleviates our reliance on oil production then it's a win win. The reason these technologies aren't implemented is because of ROI. There isn't a short term gain to be made, so the projects are shelved and left as great ideas on a drawing board somewhere. If you start reducing your reliance on oil then your economy will start to suffer, that's the argument (along with industry unemployment)?, because growth relies on oil production. That focus needs to shift away from that archaic thinking and the only way you're going to do that is to remove money. You can bleat all you like about being sensible and thoughtful in terms of oil usage but it will not reduce the demand. Bin money and do things because we need to get them done or face the consequences of war etc... when it all goes tits.

I :rofl: when people harp on about protesters using the technology they're supposedly protesting against. It's how we're using it that's the problem, not the fact that we are using it :facepalm:. We can all see how useful technology is and it would be insane to just stop it. Get rid of the mechanism that's keeping useful tech on the drawing board!!!!!!!

[TrentNz]

second car's could be electric 3 wheel 2 seater 250kg bubble commuter specials, cleaner air for kids going to school too

town bikes could be 150nm torque dragsters from hell with 100km distance, quicker accelerating automatic transmission and faster than most gas bikes. Or, 2kw commuter cubs with 1200mpg economy

and those who want to go to the track with benzine can if they want.

Thats what i would want. Charge 'em at home

go to hell!!

Long live petrol motors!!! :love:

[FJRider]

Just like the bikers did with the Bikeoi you mean?....:corn:
Probably end up with the same result...:facepalm:

I hope they paid their ACC levies before they went up the tower. That looks dangerous ... someone might get hurt ... :eek5:

[scissorhands]

go to hell!!

Long live petrol motors!!! :love:

Why? yaks and horses have had their day, why not petroleum fuel??

Think of the glut of petroleum that would occur, massive price drop for petrol heads:yes:

[Zedder]

See I think Govts are the problem, we need oil like it or hate it for a while yet we're gonna be dependent on it. So the Govts need to grow some balls & stop taking backhanders and change the approval for exploration & drilling, it should come with a hefty agreement,
"should something go wrong the company has 1 week to sort it out/clear it up. If the company fails to do so the Govt steps in & throws everything at saving the environment with costs going to the oil company" None of this 'allowing them to try to save profits' like in the Gulf.
They fuck up they wear the costs & it will be sorted immediately, if that means they have to permanently seal off the oil so be it environment comes first, if the cost of the clean-up sends them bankrupt so be it the environment comes first.

Well thats my opinion anyways. Hassling the oil companies won't do anything, they should be hassling the Govt to put hefty conditions on the agreements

You're right SS, Governments are the problem but who do you think backs them financially to be Governments. There's big money involved in buying Governments.....

[Woodman]

Protesting to stop oil exploration will only delay the inevitable, and I think we all know it. Oil will become too expensive and whole industies will be directly and indirectly fucked and we will be forced to live in a different way, possibly something like Mashman bangs on about.

We won't have a choice, get used to the idea and use up as much petrol riding your bike now cos the day it all ends ain't that far away.

[mashman]

Protesting to stop oil exploration will only delay the inevitable, and I think we all know it. Oil will become too expensive and whole industies will be directly and indirectly fucked and we will be forced to live in a different way, possibly something like Mashman bangs on about.

We won't have a choice, get used to the idea and use up as much petrol riding your bike now cos the day it all ends ain't that far away.

I'd rather we prepared for it is all, after all there are people to come after us... who knows what the'll achieve given a decent start. As you say the day will come and it'll be bloody or it'll be expected and "mitigated" for.

Yeah, nah, yeah, nah, yeah, nah :yawn:... there's nothing to say that we can't do both. Ideally battery powered vehicles or a decent transport system for commuting and as that'll take years to achieve and cost more money than NZ has made to date, there are very few options. It seems stupid to think that all of the resources are currently available, but the money isn't and neither is the political will or it would seem the personal will to give it a go. Rant rant yaddad yadda selfish ignorant bastards yadda yadda rant rant :yawn:

[puddytat]

:woohoo::bash:

[Swoop]

Lucy has the right to protest as much as she wants. Unfortunately led astray by the so-called leaders of her movement, simply because of "c grade-celebrity status" she is being used for promo work.

Message to the ship's captain: Cast off and head to sea as ordered. If "guests prefer to get off the ship at any stage, allow them to step off".
They might become thirsty, so hose down regularly.

[puddytat]

bet ya they're too busy lookin up Lucys' trouser leg than lookin below their feet.....:shifty:

[tigertim20]

not to sure why the ship does not just start its way to the Artic, they will get cold and want to get off eventually,
either that or turn the hoses on them, might as well make it as uncomfortable as possible,
heh, if it gets cold enough, we'll be able to see lucy's nipples. hoses could make for an impromptu wet t comp?

She needs oil just like eveyone else in the world does.
I suppose she uses it in her car?

Shes a woman, I bet shes never changed the fuckin oil in a car in her life.

[rustic101]

So her hard hat has no petroleum by-product in it?
Her head lamp has no petroleum by-product in it?
Safety harnesses, and other gear they are using has no petroleum by-product in it?
The signs made of plastic including the sign writing on her tee shirt has no by-product in it?
Lets not mention the amount of A1 jet fuel they used to film the clowns on the Derek,
or the fact that there are people and services pulled off real work to baby sit these fuckers when they should be better utilised in the community.

These people need to wake the fuck up and realise that they are a hypercritical minority; that not every body gives a fuck about tree hugging long haired hairy legged tie dye flip flop wearing hippy friends of Jesus . Just IMHO.

LAWLESS is a has-been minor actor, a real expert 'ex' as in has been, '(s)pert' as in one off!!!!

[jaffaonajappa]

Kinda feeling sorry for her. She was one seriously cool chick.
Wonder how she got suckered in to the greenpeace crap? Most arrogant bunch of righteous hypocrites anywhere.

[mashman]

:woohoo::bash:

and pic

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_EFip6BmW3v4/SNs46xBBblI/AAAAAAAAAVk/K_Rr8K7C4qg/s400/starvin.jpg

[mashman]

These people need to wake the fuck up and realise that they are a hypercritical minority; that not every body gives a fuck about tree hugging long haired hairy legged tie dye flip flop wearing hippy friends of Jesus . Just IMHO.


Kinda feeling sorry for her. She was one seriously cool chick.
Wonder how she got suckered in to the greenpeace crap? Most arrogant bunch of righteous hypocrites anywhere.

:rofl: :facepalm:

[Oblivion]

Yay for hypocrites. And even for me, who lives in New Plymouth, its a mystery how she got on board in the first place. Most likely took a boat to the pier, and walked from there.

Still can't see why they don't haul anchor and leave already :yawn:

[mashman]

Yay for hypocrites. And even for me, who lives in New Plymouth, its a mystery how she got on board in the first place. Most likely took a boat to the pier, and walked from there.

Still can't see why they don't haul anchor and leave already :yawn:

Coz she's Xena and will kill them.

[jaffaonajappa]

Coz she's Xena and will kill them.

Actually...shes a bit of a pussy cat.
Her kiwi stunt double however....will totally mess you up :)

[mashman]

Actually...shes a bit of a pussy cat.
Her kiwi stunt double however....will totally mess you up :)

not listening la la la la Xena (LL) is the shit and can kill like Chick Norris la la la la

[Kickaha]

not to sure why the ship does not just start its way to the Artic, they will get cold and want to get off eventually,
either that or turn the hoses on them, might as well make it as uncomfortable as possible,
That was my first thought also but no one would have the balls to do that and I sure there's be some bullshit law you'd get charged under for endangering their lives or some shit like that


heh, if it gets cold enough, we'll be able to see lucy's nipples. If you watched the first season of Spartacus you would have seen her tits, that's the style they should remake Xena in so Gabby can get hers out to

[puddytat]

Sit back & enjoy the decline of your civilisation muthafuckers....."I told you so" day is not that far off.

[Scuba_Steve]

Sit back & enjoy the decline of your civilisation muthafuckers....."I told you so" day is not that far off.

21 Dec 2012 isn't it :shifty::lol:

[puddytat]

Nah, thats just a religious fantasy to keep people mislead...
On a planetary scale "Told you so day" equates to a period of 3 decades....30 years of watching it turn to shit will get pretty boring rather quickly & it wont be funny for anyone.

[scissorhands]

Rome and lead pipes is happening all over again. Did you see the recent doco about nz orca and toxic buildup putting them at critically endangered?

Modern urban human habits are awful for health, but I think all civilisations end up soft in the middle and corrupted and go under, their length of reign depending on the quality of governance and historical luck.

Unwell babies is not a good sign for the future of the west

[FJRider]

Modern urban human habits are awful for health, but I think all civilisations end up soft in the middle and corrupted and go under, their length of reign depending on the quality of governance and historical luck.

Unwell babies is not a good sign for the future of the west

It's ok ... we have John Key to look out for our interests ...

Beaten up babies isn't a good look either ...

[Oblivion]

It's ok ... we have John Key to look out for our interest...

Sounds much more like it.

Vote for me guys and gals, I'm an accountant. :banana:

[puddytat]

well they're still up there.....:bleh:

Good to see people standing up in public for what they believe in......instead of just whingeing.

[mashman]

Nah, thats just a religious fantasy to keep people mislead...

It gives some of us hope :shifty:

[puddytat]

It gives some of us hope :shifty:

Has someone knocked on your door today, or have you been doing the knocking?:msn-wink:

[mashman]

Has someone knocked on your door today, or have you been doing the knocking?:msn-wink:

:rofl: go in peace my son.

[Scuba_Steve]

well they're still up there.....:bleh:

Good to see people standing up in public for what they believe in......instead of just whingeing.

Yea apparently Shell's gone "Guantanamo" The protesters were being "bombarded" with the persistent booming sounds from loud speakers, including screams and feedback sounds, she said.
Seems they just don't like ship noises tho
sounds were not being made in response to the protesters, but were just standard procedure.
Normal operations involve work throughout the day and night, she said.
"As part of routine work standard procedure requires the crane's horn to be sounded when the crane moves over the vessel.

[JMemonic]

Unfortunately the ship cant sail, the systems would make them stowaways and it would not be allowed to leave port with known stowaways aboard.

By boarding the ship in any manner but legally makes their actions one step off piracy, and given it is stopping the ship from conducting its legal business I suspect that could be the laws applied.

[Scuba_Steve]

Unfortunately the ship cant sail, the systems would make them stowaways and it would not be allowed to leave port with known stowaways aboard.

By boarding the ship in any manner but legally makes their actions one step off piracy, and given it is stopping the ship from conducting its legal business I suspect that could be the laws applied.

well...
Actress Lucy Lawless and five other Greenpeace protesters have been arrested after spending four days on board the Noble Discoverer, which was due to travel to the Arctic in exploration of oil.

[JMemonic]

well...
Actress Lucy Lawless and five other Greenpeace protesters have been arrested after spending four days on board the Noble Discoverer, which was due to travel to the Arctic in exploration of oil.

I would say nice but some might get bent out of shape at that, would be interesting to see the charges but I am sure they will be minor.

NZ has love/hate affair with Greenpeace, ever since the Rainbow warrior, I must say back then I supported then being a naive youngster, now well they are nothing more than a corporation themselves, preying on young folks to do their dirty work, indoctrinating them with their holier than thou message, and sending them off into the world to convert everyone, just one step short of killing those who don't follow their beliefs.

[TrentNz]

Ahh fuck it, let em drill in the artic
we need out petroleum jelleh.

[Scuba_Steve]

I would say nice but some might get bent out of shape at that, would be interesting to see the charges but I am sure they will be minor.

NZ has love/hate affair with Greenpeace, ever since the Rainbow warrior, I must say back then I supported then being a naive youngster, now well they are nothing more than a corporation themselves, preying on young folks to do their dirty work, indoctrinating them with their holier than thou message, and sending them off into the world to convert everyone, just one step short of killing those who don't follow their beliefs.

Ah she's a "famous" person, she'll get name suppression & a slap on the hand, and your not wrong IMO Greenpeace has lost it's way.

[SPman]

Name suppresion?

I think not - that defeats the whole point of the exercise.

Mind you - seeing how everyone knows who she is, I wouldn't put it past the NZ judiciary.............


IMO Greenpeace has lost it's way.

How so? The point of this exercise IMO was to bring greater attention to the opposition of most environmental groups to drilling in extremely hostile, fragile environments, where there is a good chance of a total cock-up, with a mere slap on the wrist for the oil companies involved.

[Scuba_Steve]

Name suppresion?

I think not - that defeats the whole point of the exercise.

Mind you - seeing how everyone knows who she is, I wouldn't put it past the NZ judiciary.............

tongue in cheek, given the courts usual allowances for "famous" people. Not to be taken seriously



How so? The point of this exercise IMO was to bring greater attention to the opposition of most environmental groups to drilling in extremely hostile, fragile environments, where there is a good chance of a total cock-up, with a mere slap on the wrist for the oil companies involved.
Not meaning specifically this incident, but in general. 1 example being the years they spent protesting to get mercury out of computer screens etc (expected to last 10yrs give or take), only to now be protesting to have mercury installed in every light fitting in every building (expected life 1yr give or take).

[sil3nt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWoojruPpCE

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/10/22/129007182457308718.jpg

:whistle:

[JimO]

her carbon footprint would be massive, id still fuck her though

[oldrider]

Kinda feeling sorry for her. She was one seriously cool chick.
Wonder how she got suckered in to the greenpeace crap? Most arrogant bunch of righteous hypocrites anywhere.

True!

She has the right to protest just like the ship has the right to set sail, why don't they give her a chance to leave and just go!

Greenpeace are a bunch of frigging hypocrites just like that twit Al Gore! (don't hear much about him these days do you!)

[oldrider]

Not meaning specifically this incident, but in general. 1 example being the years they spent protesting to get mercury out of computer screens etc (expected to last 10yrs give or take), only to now be protesting to have mercury installed in every light fitting in every building (expected life 1yr give or take).

And filling people up with mercury through vaccinations .... I'm not against vaccination, just against the shit they put in it! :sick:

[mashman]

Greenpeace. Once a noble cause but because they achieved nothing, as every other protest does, so on that basis they become a laughing stock. For me that says more about people in general than it does about Greenpeace :tugger:

[SPman]

Greenpeace. Once a noble cause but because they achieved nothing, as every other protest does, so on that basis they become a laughing stock. For me that says more about people in general than it does about Greenpeace :tugger: which is why I quite like Sea Shepherd - they put their bodies where there mouths are.....

[Hitcher]

Good on Ya Greenpeace, at least they have the strength of their convictions unlike a third of the population who just whinge.

Greenpeace is a multinational organisation that relies on stunts like this to cadge "membership" funding off people. It is an organisation that cannot pass the "AGM test". The AGM test is an annual general meeting where a majority of members can roll the board of directors. "Members" have no say in the policies or direction of Greenpeace. They're cash cows.

Greenpeace's stunts are carefully chosen to be sensational. Don't expect the cause to stand close scrutiny. Their recent toilet paper "scandal" is testimony to that.

Ms Lawless is not putting herself at risk. At the very least she is having her ego pandered. At most Greenpeace is "sponsoring" her.

[mashman]

which is why I quite like Sea Shepherd - they put their bodies where there mouths are.....

And some, mad bastards. Some day it'll be illegal unless you have a permit.

[scissorhands]

........they achieved nothing, as every other protest does......

I think you underestimate them. We got rid of Ed didnt we?

[BoristheBiter]

Greenpeace is a multinational organisation that relies on stunts like this to cadge "membership" funding off people. It is an organisation that cannot pass the "AGM test". The AGM test is an annual general meeting where a majority of members can roll the board of directors. "Members" have no say in the policies or direction of Greenpeace. They're cash cows.



I think that's why it is no longer classed as a charity.
No more tax right off.

[wharekura]

...(shell ad video)...
yep, typical socialist hypocrite "Actress and Greenpeace activist Lucy Lawless has shrugged off revelations she acted in a 1990s television commercial for Shell Oil, the company she protested against for the past four days at Port Taranaki."
Im only jealous as I dont have the time or $ to take time off my mortgage paying job to protest - plus I'm not hot looking like she is :weep:

Like Greece "please rich people give us more money so we can sit on our arse..." :violin:

[oneofsix]

yep, typical socialist hypocrite "Actress and Greenpeace activist Lucy Lawless has shrugged off revelations she acted in a 1990s television commercial for Shell Oil, the company she protested against for the past four days at Port Taranaki."
Im only jealous as I dont have the time or $ to take time off my mortgage paying job to protest - plus I'm not hot looking like she is :weep:

Like Greece "please rich people give us more money so we can sit on our arse..." :violin:

so she did an ad over 20 years ago :whocares:
Companies like to tell you they are all about change. Deep sea oil drilling wasn't available 20 years ago and Greenpeace hadn't worked out how to attack the petroleum industry and Al Gore wasn't a climate change billionaire. A lot has changed in 20 years especially Lucy ;)

[Zedder]

Yep, a lot has changed in 20 years. It actually looks like the Exxon Valdez oil spill issue from 1989 may have been finally sorted out.

Google world wide oil spills if you want to see what a problem they are.

[puddytat]

which is why I quite like Sea Shepherd - they put their bodies where there mouths are.....

Im with ya there.....conservation is something that really should have fuck all to do with a colour of a party flag....its more to do with individual choice.

[mashman]

I think you underestimate them. We got rid of Ed didnt we?

nope, despite all of the wailing and gnashing of teeth he stands strong and steadfast in his beliefs... as he should.

[mashman]

yep, typical socialist hypocrite "Actress and Greenpeace activist Lucy Lawless has shrugged off revelations she acted in a 1990s television commercial for Shell Oil, the company she protested against for the past four days at Port Taranaki."
Im only jealous as I dont have the time or $ to take time off my mortgage paying job to protest - plus I'm not hot looking like she is :weep:

Like Greece "please rich people give us more money so we can sit on our arse..." :violin:

:rofl: :facepalm:

[mashman]

"TORONTO, Apr 22, 2006 (Tierramérica) - Canada and Denmark launched a joint expedition in early April to map the floor of the Arctic Ocean and help the two countries prove their claims of sovereignty over areas potentially rich in petroleum and natural gas." ... "Under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, nations control the undersea resources, primarily fishing and seabed mining, for a distance of 200 nautical miles from their shores." (http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=32979) ...

2007 - Russia plants flag under N Pole (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6927395.stm) ...

"The dramatic move provoked an international outcry. The U.S. and Canada expressed shock and environment campaigners said it would be a disaster." ... "A UN convention says none can claim jurisdiction over the Arctic seabed because the geological structure does not match the surrounding continental shelves." (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-464921/Putins-Arctic-invasion-Russia-lays-claim-North-Pole--gas-oil-diamonds.html) ...

Denmark Claims The Arctic Seabed, Goes After North Pole (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/24/denmark-arctic-seabed-north-pole_n_934204.html) ...

... and yet Shell can take a boat up there and start drilling???? and Greenpeace are the Lawless ones (snigger)???? lies deception and a charge of burglary v's breaking the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea, priceless.

[mashman]

Heartland backlash over Crafar farm fallout (http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/6519680/Heartland-backlash-over-Crafer-farm-fallout) Harawira and Lawless :blip:

[Edbear]

I think you underestimate them. We got rid of Ed didnt we?

:lol: :killingme