View Full Version : Horex V6 set for production
Usarka
25th February 2012, 08:25
Unfortunately it's lost the supercharger that was in the pre-prod model....
http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-new-bikes/horex-v6-set-for-production/20047.html
http://www.gizmag.com/horex-v6-set-for-production/21423/
http://images.gizmag.com/gallery_lrg/horex-v6-production-3.JPG
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Edit: Oops should have been in New Bike Model News forum.
jaffaonajappa
25th February 2012, 08:46
damnnn nice.
jasonu
25th February 2012, 13:31
Interesting motor, ugly bike.
ducatilover
25th February 2012, 13:58
Nice, bit of a take off on the VAG VR6 MOTOR?
dangerous
25th February 2012, 16:43
Ummm... aint no V6 by me, Id call it a square 6 with turbo, but it apires to have a single crank like the VAG6, which would mean it cant have a level head?
ducatilover
25th February 2012, 17:55
Ummm... aint no V6 by me, Id call it a square 6 with turbo, but it apires to have a single crank like the VAG6, which would mean it cant have a level head?
Looks like a single deck height, there's a pic of the pistons on one of those sites, I'm saying it's a level head :yes:
I was wrong once before though.
jasonu
26th February 2012, 05:30
Ummm... aint no V6 by me, Id call it a square 6 with turbo, but it apires to have a single crank like the VAG6, which would mean it cant have a level head?
Angled top pistons.
dangerous
26th February 2012, 06:36
Angled top pistons.you telling us or there ment to be a ? in there?
either way ya wrong, I found some info, a V6 at 15* single crank
258480
AllanB
26th February 2012, 08:33
It pisses me off how the supercharger is always dropped on production models. I'm pretty sure the B-King show model had one!
Without it the Horex is what - a over complicated inline 4, the small V may allow it to be a fraction narrower but to what aid. It will be expensive. I keep saving up for a naked MV!
cs363
26th February 2012, 08:42
Ummm... aint no V6 by me, Id call it a square 6 with turbo, but it apires to have a single crank like the VAG6, which would mean it cant have a level head?
I imagine that they've built it the same as the Volkswagen VR6 engine, which has offset bores and a single crank and a level head. See pic
http://www.spturbo.com/onlinestore/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/d/s/dscn8817_resize_1.jpg
Not really a V6 in the accepted sense, more like a double three engine? :confused: Bit like those W16 engines which aren't really a W shape.
Edit: Yes it is the same as the VW and does have a level head, here's a pic of the Horex block:
http://www.southbayriders.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=392646&d=1326476747 http://www.southbayriders.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=392647&d=1326476747
And a video:
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AllanB
26th February 2012, 08:46
Ducati keep saying they make L twins, not V twins!
pzkpfw
26th February 2012, 08:51
So it gets two valves per cylinder?
cs363
26th February 2012, 08:54
So it gets two valves per cylinder?
No, 3 look closely :) ..... More info on their website: http://www.horex.com/en.html
Subike
26th February 2012, 09:18
No, 3 look closely :) ..... More info on their website: http://www.horex.com/
I can count 12 cam lobes on the cams in that cut away of the engine.
By my calculations that is 6 inlet 6 exhaust
which is two per cylinder
now where are the other 6 valves?
cs363
26th February 2012, 09:25
I can count 12 cam lobes on the cams in that cut away of the engine.
By my calculations that is 6 inlet 6 exhaust
which is two per cylinder
now where are the other 6 valves?
Yeah, I don't think that 'artists impression' pic is too accurate at the cam end - if you look closely though, you can see the three valve seats in the head for each cylinder.
This is from the website:
Triple overhead cams
The VR concept enabled HOREX engineers to implement a variety of innovative solutions. The pistons for the HOREX engine are designed with slanted heads. Despite the V-formation of the cylinders, this makes it possible to arrange all six combustion chambers on a single plane. Two intake and one exhaust valve are positioned in a radial array around the central spark plug. This design provides an elliptical combustion chamber for maximum power output. The valves are operated by three parallel camshafts mounted in the head. Thus, the HOREX is the first motorcycle engine with a TOHC (Triple Overhead Camshaft) cylinder head.
jasonu
26th February 2012, 09:36
you telling us or there ment to be a ? in there?
either way ya wrong, I found some info, a V6 at 15*
Single crank but of set big ends. 258480
I was telling you (us? are you the thread spokesman?)
Pic from the OP's suppiled link.
Subike
26th February 2012, 09:42
Yeah, I don't think that 'artists impression' pic is too accurate at the cam end - if you look closely though, you can see the three valve seats in the head for each cylinder.
This is from the website:
Triple overhead cams
The VR concept enabled HOREX engineers to implement a variety of innovative solutions. The pistons for the HOREX engine are designed with slanted heads. Despite the V-formation of the cylinders, this makes it possible to arrange all six combustion chambers on a single plane. Two intake and one exhaust valve are positioned in a radial array around the central spark plug. This design provides an elliptical combustion chamber for maximum power output. The valves are operated by three parallel camshafts mounted in the head. Thus, the HOREX is the first motorcycle engine with a TOHC (Triple Overhead Camshaft) cylinder head.
triple cams does not mean 18 valves, outer cams have three lobes, inner (central cam) has six cam lobes that still equates to 12 cam lobes or 2 valves per cylinder
edit, upon reading the engine specs, I will stand corrected and agree, two inlet valves must be operated via the single cam lobe. interesting indeed
Hans
26th February 2012, 09:47
If you're going to do a V6 bike, might as well do it properly:
www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/01/fgr-midalu-2500-v6/
i.autoblog.com/2011/01/20/fgr-midalu-2500-v6-is-our-kind-of-naked-crazy/
avgas
26th February 2012, 09:53
It pisses me off how the supercharger is always dropped on production models. I'm pretty sure the B-King show model had one!
It did. Along with a heads up display.
I am curious if this will go into production this year as promised...........I am guessing no
http://www.diseno-art.com/images/suzuki_stratosphere_front.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_Stratosphere
AllanB
26th February 2012, 10:39
Regardless of how the bike goes, that video was very interesting!
Bevel top pistons - interesting, and I wonder how they react to heat dispersion.
quickbuck
26th February 2012, 10:55
Regardless of how the bike goes, that video was very interesting!
Agree.
Shame the bike hasn't appealed to me.... but ya never know, could be fun to ride....
dangerous
26th February 2012, 13:28
I was telling you (us? are you the thread spokesman?)
Pic from the OP's suppiled link.
What?... anyway, the pictures I posted show flat top pistons, I was asking if the Horex was the same and asuming (my bad) they were, obviously they are not.
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