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HenryDorsetCase
29th February 2012, 22:02
but can you ride as well as this?

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quite impressive.

baptist
29th February 2012, 22:16
but can you ride as well as this?

Trouble is, while I would love to be able to ride like that I don't want to practice on my bike:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Crasherfromwayback
29th February 2012, 22:31
See the size of the rear sprocket? Not saying it's easy. But certain things certainly help.

kiwifruit
29th February 2012, 23:20
Dude can ride alright

rossirep
1st March 2012, 07:14
See the size of the rear sprocket? Not saying it's easy. But certain things certainly help.

im just wondering, what does a big sprocket have to do with riding like that.??
i know they help with low speed wheelies, but i didnt know they help'd riding like this..

p.dath
1st March 2012, 07:21
That is very impressive riding!

Crasherfromwayback
1st March 2012, 07:22
im just wondering, what does a big sprocket have to do with riding like that.??
i know they help with low speed wheelies, but i didnt know they help'd riding like this..

Just in the fact that you won't have to be slipping the clutch as much (1 less thing to have to do) and the extra drive helps too.

Drew
1st March 2012, 07:24
im just wondering, what does a big sprocket have to do with riding like that.??
i know they help with low speed wheelies, but i didnt know they help'd riding like this..Instant throttle response in low gears. Helps at low speed to stand the bike up using the throttle without gaining too much speed. (Watch him throttle chop through the slalam section).

Learning to do that would be very cool, but the skills required would rarely benefit NZ road riding. The guy's rear brake control was fuckin phenomenal though, he's primed for real low speed stunting easy peasey.

Tigadee
1st March 2012, 08:53
Dude can ride alright

Even dudettes too...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVbm-cypIgg&feature=channel_video_title

javawocky
1st March 2012, 10:31
So THIS is the new restricted test coming out in October :clap:

BigAl
1st March 2012, 10:35
Note he had high bars as well, try it with your std clip ons.....

ducatilover
1st March 2012, 10:38
See the size of the rear sprocket? Not saying it's easy. But certain things certainly help.
The gearing was mega short and did you notice the bars? Certainly not standard CBR6 bars...
It's obviously set up well for him and he can ride the shit out of it.
Doing that with clip-ons and stock gearing would be bloody horrible :wacko:
Great vid!

george formby
1st March 2012, 10:42
but can you ride as well as this?




quite impressive.

Not yet..... practising though. I really need a wee bike with crash bars & stabilisers. Myself & my gf have been practising around cones for weeks now, thought I was getting quite sminky, full lock turns, 360's etc... These vids make me feel like a total noob. Practise grass hopper.

Crasherfromwayback
1st March 2012, 10:52
The gearing was mega short and did you notice the bars? Certainly not standard CBR6 bars...
It's obviously set up well for him and he can ride the shit out of it.
Doing that with clip-ons and stock gearing would be bloody horrible :wacko:
Great vid!

I agree. I'd end up on my arse under the bike if I tried that.

ducatilover
1st March 2012, 11:39
I agree. I'd end up on my arse under the bike if I tried that.
I'd fall over rather promptly...

willytheekid
1st March 2012, 11:50
but can you ride as well as this?
.

To be honest...probably!
Given enough practice and the right bike, I feel most riders could! (Public groups in japan do alot of these carpark cone gymkhana's cos its safe fun on a bike)
I think people are mistaking repetitive practice and very good basic handling & course memory for "amazing riding skills" (there good!...but NOT amazing)

My question is this...can these "amazing riders" do this!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wS43s3slbGY

These are the truely skilled, the REAL "amazing riders" in my books, a mistake in gymkhana will cost you time, points and some paint...these guys make a mistake....:sick:

Nothing against the skill and handling requirements of gymkhana...but honestly...given enough practice ANY rider can get that good....but Isle of man etc is where the true two wheeled "GODS" walk
....when even valentino rossi bows down to these riders, you KNOW you are watching the true gods of speed and motorcycle control :yes:

...now you tell me what vid made you get goose bumps!;)

Ohh and PS: Drew hit it on the head "Learning to do that would be very cool, but the skills required would rarely benefit NZ road riding"...take one of these guys out of the car park away from the cones and put them in a riding "shit fight" on a twisty road with drew, crasher or any other quick rider setting the pace...they would get school'd REAL fast! :yes:

Muppet
1st March 2012, 12:47
Even dudettes too...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVbm-cypIgg&feature=channel_video_title

Wow it's actually true, women really can do anything!

TrentNz
1st March 2012, 12:56
Thats piss easy.. :tugger:

willytheekid
1st March 2012, 12:57
Wow it's actually true, women really can do anything!....That a mans already done!

Fixed that for ya! ;)

Muppet
1st March 2012, 13:18
Fixed that for ya! ;)

Thanks for that, damn straight!:cool:

willytheekid
1st March 2012, 13:29
Thanks for that, damn straight!:cool:

No probl...wait! :blink:...do you here that?...OHHH SHIT!! :crazy:
http://www.gods-and-monsters.com/images/female-vampire-images-03.jpg
RUN!!

:killingme

awa355
1st March 2012, 14:40
Somebody should tell him, "Follow the bushes in the background. The gate out of the park is at the end".


Not bad riding tho',:drool: for someone who's lost.

Muppet
1st March 2012, 16:45
No probl...wait! :blink:...do you here that?...OHHH SHIT!! :crazy:
http://www.gods-and-monsters.com/images/female-vampire-images-03.jpg
RUN!!

:killingme

Alright buddy you're being a bit silly aren't you? How, may I ask did you get a photo of my wife???

rastuscat
1st March 2012, 16:54
Hey all.

One thing we could all learn from the chick flick on the Kwakka was to look where you want to go. Head up, the bike goes where your head points it.

It's coz your body follows your head, and your bike follows your body.

Just an observation.

Been off the donuts this week. Doing an Introduction to Prosecutions course. Interesting.

258895

Zedder
2nd March 2012, 10:53
Hey all.

One thing we could all learn from the chick flick on the Kwakka was to look where you want to go. Head up, the bike goes where your head points it.

It's coz your body follows your head, and your bike follows your body.

Just an observation.

Been off the donuts this week. Doing an Introduction to Prosecutions course. Interesting. 258895

RUN!! Very fast!!

george formby
2nd March 2012, 10:57
Hey all.

One thing we could all learn from the chick flick on the Kwakka was to look where you want to go. Head up, the bike goes where your head points it.

It's coz your body follows your head, and your bike follows your body.

Just an observation.

Been off the donuts this week. Doing an Introduction to Prosecutions course. Interesting.

258895

I forwarded the vids to my n00b girlfriend for that exact reason. Thing is, neither of us have necks that flexible.

Oh, as far as the TT riders are concerned I agree in principle, they are absolute, at the limit legends in my book, but, they are using exactly the same techniques as the cone dodgers. just really, really quickly.

Drew
2nd March 2012, 14:06
Oh, as far as the TT riders are concerned I agree in principle, they are absolute, at the limit legends in my book, but, they are using exactly the same techniques as the cone dodgers. just really, really quickly.

No, they're not. When a big block motor is spinning fast, and the bike is travelling at a decent rate, the bike must be manipulated differently to make it turn. Chopping the throttle from stop to stop, will not achieve a desirable result through a chicane at speed.

george formby
2nd March 2012, 14:12
No, they're not. When a big block motor is spinning fast, and the bike is travelling at a decent rate, the bike must be manipulated differently to make it turn. Chopping the throttle from stop to stop, will not achieve a desirable result through a chicane at speed.

Educate me, explain the difference. I'm genuinely interested, I cannot do either, TT or cone dodging.

Katman
2nd March 2012, 14:13
Nothing against the skill and handling requirements of gymkhana...but honestly...given enough practice ANY rider can get that good....



It's a lot harder to be that good than you seem to think.

Motorcycle gymkhana provides very real skills that help survival on the road - particularly in amongst traffic.

And sometimes the Isle of Mann is not necessarily won by skill but rather by being the craziest motherfucker out there. Anyone heard of Shaun Harris?

george formby
2nd March 2012, 14:18
It's a lot harder to be that good than you seem to think.

Motorcycle gymkhana provides very real skills that help survival on the road - particularly in amongst traffic.

And sometimes the Isle of Mann is not necessarily won by skill but rather by being the craziest motherfucker. Anyone heard of Shaun Harris?

The ability to be elsewhere almost instantly at 50 kmh should never be underestimated. +1

ellipsis
2nd March 2012, 14:19
...I'd have no problem with standing in the Globe of Death with those riders doing figure 8s round my head...

baptist
2nd March 2012, 14:19
Alright buddy you're being a bit silly aren't you? How, may I ask did you get a photo of my wife???

Your wife!!!!!! you mean she is mega scary and a bigamist?????;)

Drew
2nd March 2012, 14:40
Educate me, explain the difference. I'm genuinely interested, I cannot do either, TT or cone dodging.

I'm not the right guy to ask for explenations, but I'll try to be direct. (I have a tendancy to think faster than I type).

Traveling at speed, to turn you must load the front as much as you can and apply pressure to the inside bar at the same time as the outside peg. The reason for this is that the spinning bits on the bike going fast, (wheels and crank), are creating so much enertia that they really dont want to change direction.

At the low speed seen in the clip the enertia you want to fight is considerably lessened, shut the throttle as you move your weight, and the bike literally falls the way you wanna go, (there is a small counter steer to get the wheels to start moving out from under you), turn the bars that way aswell and presto, tight turning circle. Stop it from falling over with the throttle again and moderate it with the rear brake.

If you watch the guy doing the slalam, you can see him going from full to zero throttle, and stabbing the rear brake. It's the same as a race bike loading up the front tyre, just done very differently. Try and apply one technique to the other discapline, and be prepared to meet an inhospitable ground.

Drew
2nd March 2012, 14:41
Your wife!!!!!! you mean she is mega scary and a bigamist?????;)

Got a fuckin BANGIN rack though. A lot can be forgiven for that.

george formby
2nd March 2012, 14:49
I'm not the right guy to ask for explenations, but I'll try to be direct. (I have a tendancy to think faster than I type).

Traveling at speed, to turn you must load the front as much as you can and apply pressure to the inside bar at the same time as the outside peg. The reason for this is that the spinning bits on the bike going fast, (wheels and crank), are creating so much enertia that they really dont want to change direction.

At the low speed seen in the clip the enertia you want to fight is considerably lessened, shut the throttle as you move your weight, and the bike literally falls the way you wanna go, (there is a small counter steer to get the wheels to start moving out from under you), turn the bars that way aswell and presto, tight turning circle. Stop it from falling over with the throttle again and moderate it with the rear brake.

If you watch the guy doing the slalam, you can see him going from full to zero throttle, and stabbing the rear brake. It's the same as a race bike loading up the front tyre, just done very differently. Try and apply one technique to the other discapline, and be prepared to meet an inhospitable ground.

Thank you. That makes sense to me, the physics is more or less the same but different techniques for different speeds. I do know it's a lot easier to fall off a bike going slowly than it is to fall off a bike going fast. Disregarding scenery of course.